such is the picture here, but the most important thing at the end of yes, sergei ivanovich, this poem is absolutely amazing and not always e reader fascinated by this beautiful complexity a and beautiful obscurity boris pasternak gets to the end, an instant thunderstorm for a century. and then summer said goodbye to the half-tank, who took off his hat, took 100 blinding photographs at night as a keepsake of thunder, a brush of lilacs froze at that time , having picked up a bunch of lightning from the field, they trafiled to illuminate the management’s house and when the cover of the forest of the building spread a wave of evil kinship. and how coal according to the drawing a downpour struck, all the fence began to blink, a collapse of consciousness. it seemed, but

the charger. even those corners of the mind, where it is now as bright as day, what happens at the end, and in another place boris pasternak says that a work of art. whatever they are , they always talk about the moment of their birth. this is a very subtle remark it has right. the attitude to what pasternak gives us in poetry, because this poem is not about how lightnings grab familiar pictures from the night, but about how one is born, this is the most a poem before our eyes, and at the end we see an amazing insight when a wave of gloating overflowed the roof of the building. and as charcoal in the drawing means, charcoal pencil, of course. e, the downpour struck everyone. why do we weave? because the jets are parallel, as if branches intertwined in a wattle fence, and the collapse of consciousness began to brighten. and it seemed to light up.

even those corners of reason. where now it is as bright as day, not a thing to illuminate those parts of consciousness where it is dark, this is not the most, the main thing is not the most. the main thing is to take pictures out of the darkness. most the main thing is to understand that even what seems to you light, clear, transparent, but familiar. even this is incomprehensible to you until you bring yourself into this poetic state. the main thing is not to snatch the light out of the darkness, and the main thing is to see a different quality of light even those corners of the mind, where it is now light as in the daytime , are lit up with a new color. i understand. this is precisely at the moment when the thunder and lightning of the photographer’s complex, deliberately complicated appearance light these candles and, uh, strive to get into the prague house and give us the picture that we familiar by day and not visible at night boris

pasternak thunderstorm. instant for a century. well, now we will return to the conversation by sergei ivanovich ah, after this beautiful poem, which i love very much, in which even the pledge of the words is rearranged, yes. an instant thunderstorm for a century is an inversion, this is not a very natural order, as if in the russian language, let's return to our conversation and talk about your editorial work. firstly, it is very important to me how literary magazines live now. how znamya magazine lives what has changed and i really wanted to to talk about your projects. here from this series, and here we see one volume from e two-volume, e, created by sergei ivanovich chuprinin new russia world of literature. let's start with him and start this amazing project. there are famous words, a russian

writer, where articles are written about all the writers who had at least one book of the 19th century. a huge team of 19th-century authors is working on this seven-volume edition. they write and continue to write the last volume has not yet come out. and here he took one more. a wrote, and these two volumes, this is wonderful work. i think that even after 200 years, but in these twenty or thirty. eh, years will be judged by m-m in this book. here there is, for example, derbenyovna petrovich well , everything is clear here. this is a poet, a songwriter. here there are also such namely as villages-aa derkach db no one knows, but they have books, what can you say about this work of yours. it's not a criticism at all. i usually say that my basic profession is a critic, and for the last 30 years i have been doing editorial work, as an editor, and editorial activity in

to a certain extent interferes with buckwheat classes. you lose freedom, maneuvers. well, yes, you seem to squeeze in some kind of squeeze yourself behind you, after all, a magazine and some too bold statement of yours critical can be used professionally incorrectly by some enthusiastic same. yes, yes, yes, you keep yourself in control, but according to your soul, according to your spiritual inclinations, the latter. well, 30 years, probably no less. i'm sorry, i'm highly fire word educator. it's not high at all, it's not so important to win in a dispute, at least not silence in a variety of literary disputes in his lifetime. all the same , glory to god prints already now i'll tell you, and you're fifty-seven years old opa here seriously data

and some debatable articles and all that. it is more interesting for me to share my experience and add to my experience, but some new additional knowledge. why did the idea of ​​a dictionary come about, it was such a time, in general, when i started doing all this, she stopped writing something that was not very clear about literature, what happened in life is incomprehensible literary centrism. it seems to be over, what happens to the writers who live outside the russian federation, no one knows anything about the writers of the authoritative brand-bearers, as i call them? uh, everything seems to be known here. well, yes, if all the more modest names, but it’s also worth remembering gogol, yes, tell the sovereign, emperors, that

pyotr ivanovich bobchevsky lives like that. yes , of course, this, of course, every person who takes up a pen has come and fixed it. but it's so at least somehow otherwise nobody yes, yes, then another idea arose, so that maybe these on their own, but again, forgive the highly encyclopedic studies and, indeed, my most favorite book came out. life according to the concepts is beautiful, this is an attempt. to write a theoretical outline, literature, based on the current flowing literary facts, table or put under the knife, uh, well, you don't talk about it later. well, but nevertheless, and here are the current students. i'm not sure that they understand what it means and somehow

transformed in the last decades of the twentieth century and in the first of the current plot. and what happens to roman well and so on? this is the author's, of course, a reference book again. er, because that's my point of view. well , this might be interesting. yes, and now i'm reading a course at the literary institute, which is called literary space. not quite science, of course, but probably your studios about the thaw let's round everything off with them. after all, this is also not science, and the same thing with the thaw. the first time i did

this was at the end of the eighties, the time was such in the yard, here it is, again, pre-thaw, which then poured out perestroika. that's what yes about the image of our very culture. uh-huh i released you atrich, who in some of the talongia there is a selected work that sounded the most , which passed the most, then they stayed 30 years have passed life radically, maybe got pregnant, and it occurred to me to return to this again, that is, and uh, in of the present , the image of the past is changing, of course, yes, definitely, definitely. i decided to return to this again, it is pointless to release an ontology, because all these texts are now live, yes. yes and so on, but even here the ontology was accompanied by a chronicle of the most important events. she usually starts. for me, on march 5, the fifty-third day from the date of stalin's death did not

end in the sixty-eighth year, when the warsaw pact troops entered prague. here's another story that ended for another 15 years. as a matter of fact, 15 years, yes it is curious. by the way, this is the time, these are the times of such a sharp renewal of abrupt changes everywhere. that's what they call movement. they repeated 20 century, and in russia three times. yes, yes, and every time for 15 years the silver age is moving, the thaw is moving. and this is what we call class restructuring. and during this time just appeared in print, a huge fantastic number of documents. and archival documents and memoirs and vaults of correspondence, and what is there, only no one's words are huge, very important. for example, i couldn't just fit in. it's a huge house. yes, tom sergey ivanovich, he is so huge in format

, yes, really, yes, so i began to line up. this is the simplest one. it would seem primitive, of course, such a number happened, such and such, such and such happened, such and such is printed. ah, and it happens there, well , the most unexpected, for example, rapprochement. well, let's say november 1962. one day in the new world number eleven at the same time in the pioneer magazine bonfire brodsky the first publication to fight, yes, two nobel laureates within one month a huge, stunning event with the release of one day and water, an inconspicuous and inconspicuous publication of a nursery rhyme it will be long in sudebrodsky, as it were, he says there is a fire, yes, yes, yes, yes , great, how does it all bring together? as everything

changes, i will say that the book is glory, the second one came out to god. it has already, in fact, been handed over to the office, we are polishing it by the president. i really want to spend a little longer, so that there is less inaccuracy and more corrections. i posted on social media. yes yes yes. listen to the fact that someone collected a miscalculation will clarify and say no, it was not at all like that. i am very grateful to all my under this social media readers and in a short preface to this volume, it will also be large, too , somewhere under a thousand pages , i’ll just say thanks. what it is. this is already a biographical dictionary. there, let's say, i have, of course, on the essay, bratsk where i am, but i'm trying to give a slightly different than usual

view of this historical figure and there is. eh, essay. oh, anchor who wrote literary works yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes and thus, as it were, planted borodsky. uh-huh and , of course , i am writing about such exact figures as tvardovsky's pizhoy man, they are worthy people and dementiev and noodles vinogradov and and so i keep myself. it is already owed to very, very many writers, of course, that time is in a wide range. he began to marry us before the war. well, here we are, at the end of our conversation, plunged into the era, and the domination of the literature of centrism, the literature of centrism, when every letter. the opinion of every literary gesture resonates sometimes delight yes

sometimes unfortunately repression and an act of no freedom. and uh. i think that hmm this paphos is a very good conclusion to today's conversation, because life goes on wives continues to go out. you keep working. we are waiting for new books and i am happy to thank you for today's conversation. best wishes. we'll see you again. goodbye sergey ivanovich thank you. you watched the next issue of the literary podcast, which is called let them not talk, let them read, and i dmitry bak tell you, as always, read with spafos and energy with pleasure.

the unemployment rate in russia remains at a record low, but in some regions it is much higher than the national average vladimir putin at meetings with members of the government stressed that not all problems in the labor market have been resolved; there are questions about the quality of jobs at enterprises where output has declined . and it's bad for their salaries. the president drew attention to the fact that it is the income index of russians that is a key indicator of economic development and the quality of economic policy in general. our goal is to make people have occasions to note that wages and disposable. e, real disposable income of the population as a whole by country began to grow again in real terms. yes, these are still very modest numbers. if they are not reproduced, but uh

, well, after all, well, after all, they are already there by the end of march, inflation will drop below 4% according to some estimates. it will continue to slow down, which means that real incomes should accelerate. yes, citizens expect that their contribution will be made by additional increases in the minimum wage at the beginning of next year by 18.5% according to the head of state, the russian economy is showing positive dynamics, including due to the development of nis, which released with the departure of western companies vladimir putin stressed the growth is noted, including due to the development of communications with the countries of the east and south, as well as the restructuring of logistics, as the president noted , the problem of marketability and far eastern ports has been resolved. they function as planned , however, work continues, for example, this year it is planned to complete the deepening of the caspian canal, increase the possibility of the eastern railway range

to increase the capacity of the azov and black sea ports and modernize passes at the border. omsk region will be headed by vitaly khatsenko. vladimir putin announced via videoconference that he had signed a decree appointing him temporarily as acting governor of the region, if he had been chairman of the government of the donetsk people's republic for 22 years. before that, he worked in various positions of responsibility in the yamalo-nenets autonomous okrug. we worked in the north for almost five years and let's get in touch with the problems of siberia for you. understandable not indifferent. as if the proposal that i made to you will lay out all my efforts to ensure that people's lives are better and your trust is a lot of work, but we are not afraid of it. earlier, since 2018, the post of head of the omsk region was held by alexander burkov, the president accepted his resignation.

a large communication center and four command posts of ukrainian nationalists were destroyed in a day by the russian military during a special operation, as reported by the ministry of defense of aviation artillery, and missile forces spawned enemy positions in almost 120 districts, more than five thousand ukrainian militants liquidated from their bmw armored cars pickup trucks, anti-tank guns, howitzers and artillery systems. including american-made nationalists are losing ammunition equipment in different directions. they told the department about new examples of the brave actions of the participants in the special operation, the squad leader, sergeant dmitry yurasov, discovered a group of militants who were preparing an ambush on the outskirts of the settlement, despite the numerical superiority of the enemy, he decided to attack in the course. boy. his squads destroyed up to 15 nationalists and three tanks, the settlement was taken under the control of junior sergeant. nikita bykov, as part of the calculation of the hurricane system, skillfully supported the offensive of the russian troops with fire, maneuvering under mortar fire from the enemy, bykov and his friend destroyed three pieces of equipment and about 15 militants. this

made it possible to advance into the depths of the nationalists. a new concept for the protection of the zaporozhye npp is being developed by the international atomic energy agency. it provides for a narrowing of the security zone around the station, said iaea director general rafael grossiy, visited the facility watched the damage from ukrainian shelling, including the place where one of the missiles exploded, which fell between the coolant tanks at the fourth power unit, commenting on kiev's statement about the possibility of a forceful solution to the gross issue. he made it clear that this is unacceptable, all these statements confirm one thing. we must agree on one important thing - the nuclear power plant should not be attacked and used for attacks in the other direction. this underlies the concept that i was talking about, which should be agreed upon by all parties, the station should not be a target and the nuclear power plant should not have heavy weapons , ukraine has not abandoned aggressive methods of force, so, with regard to the zaporizhzhya

nuclear power plant, what are the numerous statements talking about? and their public faces are not just disturbing. it is quite dangerous for us to manage during these seven months to eliminate the consequences of this colossal damage that ukraine inflicted on its own, according to them, the station a fire in the sverdlovsk region in the urban district exploded with a saw huge flames began to rise into the sky the remaining gases in the pipe burned out the area of ​​emergency was cordoned off it is reported that the cause of the explosion was the depressurization of people at the time of the incident next to the pipe there was no voice supply to the residents the area where this accident occurred fortunately was under repair and was disabled. see

you hello friends, this is a podcast life of wonderful people and i'm with you alexei varlamov writer and rector of the literary institute my today's guest is a wonderful prose writer writer, playwright, publisher yevgeny anatolyevich popov is a legendary person and speaks. today we will be about vasily pavlovich aksyonov and his novel. crimea island greetings so evgeniy anatolyevich how are you? i understand that indeed vasily pavlovich was very friendly with the author of the book about him, which you wrote in partnership with alexander kabakov and e. tell me , please, why axions yes, who was so famous for his wonderful, well, such touching, unusual, very tender works of the sixties. uh, star tickets for a container container,

why in the seventies after all? it seems to me that his style is changing, he is turning to the genre of the novel. and writes. well, such things are more political more social, what happens to him. you watched my acquaintance with him and a very close friendship with him begins in the seventy-eighth year. before that, i was an admirer and spectator, so i will tell you. it means that by the time i met him, i had a question. and where did the writer aksyonov, the author of bachkhatara, for example, so, because i am no longer satisfied the search for the genre. there us not not some seemed a little bit so toothless a little bit. and so, when i start to get acquainted with him, he imbued me with confidence. he gave me the novel to read the burn. he didn’t even just go on the lists, but he hid him and which served as a result of one

of the reasons that he was deprived of citizenship. so, then i realized where aksyonov is a huge novel, a completely new one, he developed. he just developed. and why did the island appear, crimea in general, what was it, then crimea is for you crimea is a favorite place was the moscow epithelial bohemia. yes, and not only bohemia, there the underground went there, and the place was prayed for, because there is voloshin's house and that's it. this is something else aksyonov adored this place and obviously it occurred to him to do it there. here is this trick with the sharp crimea but look at this novel. and as far as i understand, it was first published in america after his emigration , correctly. and you read it before he went to put on the fact that i was present almost at his birth. well tell me this is very interesting in 79. this means that the winter has passed very hard for us, because

the thug with lemons, the metropol with sledgehammers is also a separate issue. this is a separate design issue. yes well nothing on the organizer it's practically there. well, that is, like an ideological organization. so, it means that the necropolis of all wings was smashed, there is pornography of the spirit and everything else that can only catch one's breath so that spring comes aksyonov tells me and quickly efiya, he says, let's go to the crimea, the guys went by car perfectly. we arrived in the crimea and drove by car, such was the green car. the volga means that we drove from evpatoria and reached syria, and we were amazed by the fact that we were in the most reserved places. for some reason, he drives a seraphim, he was driving, then only we realized that he was collecting material. i already looked at the details of crimean life, and everything

is there in the novel. and not to mention the fact that, of course, maybe even the idea once came to his mind, you won’t ask him anymore, but maybe this is connected with the salmonakh, metropol, because he is there in the novel island of crimea, there are some references to this, for example i even wrote out one thing that they were going to do vernissage was not touched, which for some reason aroused extreme anger among the functionaries. although now there are dozens of these verniss, and there it means that the main character of the island of crimea was satisfied with the losnikov. vernissage in moscow of his magazine courier. and there, it means that what we wanted to do is written in axon. everything will be very easy to beat and caviar. to do this, we threw money on the paths of the participants, and as invited actors, artists and models will write to you. will walk among the intellectual, like flowers, then this

everything is in the novel. that is, this is your unfulfilled plan. it won't work, chiffon. we decided not to do an opening day, because we were told, and if we arrange an opening day, that they will expel all the already participating writers from the writers. so he never talked about what he writes. that is, he was such a secretive person in this sense, right? either he was superstitious or something, that is, i already found out that there is a novel. crimean island when he gave it to me to read, and there i came across a wonderful greeting from him in the novel, because when yalta enters the soviet destroyer and there, then, all of a sudden, such a radio port says such a phrase. popova erofeev's detachment will line up on the third deck to meet with representatives of the local population. attention, the ship's commander congratulates the young sailors on the start of their service, because, then, we were just kicked out of the

writers' union at that time. this, probably, was the irony regarding the beginning of the service, the service. but tell me, please, how did the justification come from him, e, this thought, e to do here such an alternate history. yes , come up with such a move that, firstly, well , geographically, crimea is really an island, yes, that is, it does not connect at all to any isthmuses with the mainland. and further. as far as i understand, these are the events, and the winters of 1920. yes, when the reds crossed the ice. uh, sevash was captured, and crimea but how did he come up with? yes, this is the move that this did not happen and crimea had an alternative white one. its history already. you ask about it, but it certainly goes, an amazing phantosmagarial fantasy, because that see all his texts. what he just does not come up with. and here, after all, he hated what he called animal seriousness, because how crimea means why he

was not captured by the red, because some english officer was hungover, which means he saw that some people were walking on the ice and began to shoot from guns and ice, cracked and everything when it occurred to him, but i say that he was a writer of hiv writers. that's the thing. well , look, after all, of course, the association with the island wing. well, such a geopolitical this is probably hong kong this is probably taiwan this is western. berlin well, that is, these are the islands of some other world that are connected with the metropolis. we never talked about this topic with them, but this is undoubtedly just taiwan, most likely, so what else is interesting, after all. what happens in the novel? what does crimea have ? depicted. e in the star ticket, but let the baltic states be there, but still it is part of the soviet

union at that time, and so because of the commodity bachkatare and still amazing tenderness for the soviet country. and yes, this is a great book. simply amazing in its tenderness , the book, but here it seems to me, after all , there is more some kind of anger, more poison, uh, more some kind of rejection, more some kind of irritability. so i remember alexander abramovich kabakov just in your book says that this book is about fragility democracy and the efforts of totalitarianism. and why why does he do this, because aksenov really did not like the left-wing intelligentsia, or you want to say that luchnikov is rather a negative character from this point of view. because he becomes politicians instead of journalists, or something, and the idea of ​​a society of common destiny, because it was a crazy idea that there is, if you join a civilized one. the island of crimea to such a monster as the soviet

union, then this tree will sprout and the soviet union will become the island of crimea but in reality evgeny anatolyevich in a sense, so it happened, after all, if we take , relatively speaking, the history of russia after the ninety-first year, then, and russia really became the island of crimea let there be ugly all these features of the nineties with all the distortions. but, in principle, this is what was the grain on the island, crimea, like this new bourgeois order. in the end, it really sprouted in russia, what he was afraid of and what he did not want became a fact. no you say what i wanted to say so about the fact that russia really became sharp crimea, i know, when i was convinced of this at the age of eighty, when aksyonov was celebrated like that in kazan, there was a huge one in the air dedicated to this forever, so , in my opinion, 3,000 people, or something, it was hot , as on the island, crimea, there were no drunks to

my amazement. you understand how jazz was played on the island of crimea, as on the island of crimea, and it was so pleasant to the heart and the youth of the youth was chock-full, he became a national hero. you are tatarstan and this is for even then i thought, well, just the island of crimea , here, yes, he somehow treated this. that's when it turns out that he invented an alternative history. turned into another alternate history. everything happened, exactly what was the matter, which means that he managed to see it all the same, let's stop for a second. vasily pavlovich in the eightieth year. uh, leaves the soviet union but is actually given from here. come on, do not survive, he is deprived of citizenship. yes, and he was allowed to read for 10 years, he lives in america, yes. returns here. yes, he lives in america, and this, a writer who is also amazing for a writer, usually

experiences success once in his life, but he survived. i think four times the first success of a colleague from the star ticket, the second, it means that he had success with the almanac metropol, the third success he had when he was thrown into america so that's it. well, he lectured there and became a famous american professor, he was adored by students and the fourth success. when he returned to his homeland. at first, after all, his first year was not very good, and now, this is although aksyonov. all. a after the film passed, the moscow saga, here he again became a national hero four times. that is, he is such a lucky man, he is a happy fate, yes. and now he has one of his best collections, for which there was not a single review. this means that the stories of the negative of the positive hero were so terribly interested in him, as the former author of youth

komsomol and there the story about the komsomol members who manage to sell to the west is prohibited. it was titanium but they sell it in the form of titanium spades, you know, good afternoon, madam. alberg, first floor to the left. well came to talk about the album. no, put it in the back seat. she's already fired three drivers. please help me to change. don't explain what we did there. i do have a daughter and to get joint custody. i need to work. all spirits, because i created them.

this is a podcast life of wonderful writer and rector of the literary institute alexei varlamov with you and we continue our conversation with evgeny popov about the novel by vasily aksyonov island of crimea, you know what? here i was catching. i. naturally, i read this novel for the first time, when it was published, and in the ninetieth, in my opinion, in the magazine youth, that is, in the very pass his opinion, i got caught in my youth , and, of course, it was absolutely cool. it was one of such literary events of that time. now i have read it.

and so i began to pray. yes, i began to catch myself thinking. what a feeling began, that is, then, of course, i was struck by the beauty of the bourgeois crimea, because we had not yet seen all this. yes, i had never been abroad before. for me. it was just like this a journey to see all these skyscrapers all these haunting places. this is the western atmosphere, as if in such an externally attractive now. in general, well, that's it, excuse me alexey yes. here is from the novel island of crimea what is not in the ussr what is not there in the ussr did not buy double bleached blades of colored film for mini-photo cubes with flashes of jazz plates of shaving foam for long socks and this goes very well. i remember this place . this is the archers when he came to the police . i am i remember very well, none of this we had none of this. and of course, then here is razin's front. i read all about it and thought, right

there, and people live. now i caught myself feeling that i was reading a roman pamphlet. yeah, and i had some kind of strange association. here is such a novel of an absolutely opposite, but an axion writer. what do you want a village that all the time thundered like such a stalinist absolutely communist romance and there is such a very ironic image of various such pseudo-political ones. forces in the soviet union the sixties there he ridicules the westerners here he ridicules the slavophiles the russian party some other party here aksyonov in my opinion. in a way , it does the same. here he writes, uh, pamphlet pamphlet. well, the pon flat genre, it's always so a little limited, and it affects the fact that the figures are not very voluminous. they are so a little flat, a little stilted in their own way, maybe curious. yes, there is such a member of the central committee, who feels sorry for this

crimea, because he understands that if crimea joins the soviet yes, wonderful person there, yes. yes he thinks yes marlene who is the cousins ​​who dies at the end of the taoists. there, of course, there are very interesting female images of tatiana lunina. yes, this is luchnikova's beloved here. i remembered the eagle from 84 there, this is the idea that, as it were , the most true one about against totalitarianism is a protest of sexual emancipation. yes, that's what a woman can answer. maybe especially to answer, but with such complete freedom. uh, that's all, of course, uh, terribly interesting, but some things. here they seem naive unfulfilled, and yet, indeed, this is the idea itself. yes , here is the island of crimea, detachment, joining plus the surname aksyonov yes, which so strangely rhymed russian history responded to give

from another one from here. vasily pavlovich lived up to that time, i don’t remember, in my opinion, no, he died earlier. yes, that is, before and how did he generally feel about the fact that in the nineties in the zero , here crimea was part of ukraine and he somehow said something on this topic, somehow this topic was of little interest to me, because what then crimea was part of ukraine how, by the way, did it have any effect on this? already go there, right? so i described to you that we went to the crimea so we arrived in moscow, we were already kicked out further to write down how we arrived in moscow and he rented an apartment in koktebel for the summer. so, next to the house of creativity, and there he wrote. moreover, i rented the island of crimea from some person who worked in the house of creativity. he had an apartment and this man told me for

many years that the kgb came to him from and said, get out of the apartment. means so aksyonov would live here and the whole apartment was eavesdropped. and what was there, in fact, about it? who knows? and he thought that they would not be surprised with eavesdropping everywhere, you know. well, at least what is there to eavesdrop? it is interesting that he sits creaking with a pen, or what? so or guilt? he no longer drank at that time , so he was with his wife maya and with his daughter alena at that time and lived all summer and wrote this novel there, then went to moscow in the fall. dressed him then gave us to read. and you read in your hand now yes, but then what was an impression then a feeling. very cheerful, a stunning cheerful feeling, that is, the leader writes, you understand wonderfully funny.

it means that he understands everything and there is no such special mythology, because after all, he has the island of crimea , which is opposed to the soviet union, it is not so good, it’s not so good, if you look closely from our experience from the present time, there corruption exists there, which is just not there, there and nationalism exists. there are hundreds of them there now, and there are a lot of fights between communists and consistent people about this. once said, because that's all, then later democracy and the left idea, after all. he traveled a lot during this time. he imposed himself on these left ingredients. he told me that he had performed somewhere in germany and told me so. what does it mean that some person, who was sitting there, jumped up and said, “you are lying all the time, it’s all wrong.” so, it's all there , people live happily building a communism and anger

left this meeting. so he slammed the door, and that's it. he says i saw through the window that he gets on the road in an expensive car, some insanely expensive one, you know, and he saw it all, and he saw what the french slavs told me, he told me to renet the herak, until they obeyed moscow, in principle, verbose, because in order to make a career you need to was to write about mayakovsky and at best, and kirsanov, well, you don’t like it, stalin write the code, you understand, all this, and when the energy of a young age began to get along with emigrants, they told him young man, you are crazy, you have not made any career like that what it's balance it's literature. this is the balance of the emigrant. you understand here. and here's what you need to do. and now everything has changed.

he told me a wonderful story that, for example, they began to translate, for example, some people only when they were published in moscow, when you already understand in modern times, and these white guards, who aksyonov had russian patriots then in revokuants, these luchnikov’s father, that is, all this is a simulation of the situation of world evil and good. i would say so, but he is with one of the representatives of this the first wave of russian emigration communicated in the west some kind of their reaction. i was with him in 2006. he was friends there with some count by the name of a simple, very fat one, and together we celebrated the new year, count tolstoy and his wife are an absolutely simple-looking person, but it’s clear that it’s there under this simplicity. that's a lot you know. he knew, then it means he wrote a lot.

he was friends with american immigrants, many of them have their own slang. so, for example, where the ladies call each other, darling there or something else, and where the words are already confused, it means this is the most english and russian words. thor is also so that it is very interested. well , the second one, of course. uh, like danger. yes, here is one left, relatively speaking, the line of his novel against this childhood illness or spring, so to speak, in the european consciousness, the second, of course, stalinism in the soviet union , that is, he saw very well that nationalism is the same island of crimea where, it means there are such extremists, it means there are hundreds now. and, of course, it's all shown. uh, these scenes in the bathhouse, where they are beer, are already rotten, so this is a young energy archers although he is leftist. he, for example, in two counts, so this is the very car. savitz moves away from surveillance, and everything

disappears. consent disappears, but nevertheless, when you read this novel. i thought that if i read it in the seventy-ninth year, i would least of all believe that 10 years would pass and nothing would remain of this country, not of the sharp crimea, of the soviet union and nothing would remain of the soviet system and everything would be different . that is, there is absolutely no incomprehensible. where can i get anything talk about yourself. i perceived it as a dream and a fantasy, because it was clear that there were no reasons for this one from the list of goods to appear in moscow , there were no reasons, but nevertheless everything appeared. what's the matter? it’s a pity that they don’t write about it, but they write about all the momentary nonsense, you know, because there are also questions of good and evil. such as it is possible to make good out of evil and other questions are even closer. what is convergence. was there a chance, for example, to

correct soviet power, you know, a before that, after all, aksyonov, for example, it was not by chance that in the last novels of komsomoltsev he was friends. this karpinsky was such a secretary of the komsomol passing on the personality, which means that he was later expelled from the party and, naturally, appointed. well, he told me axo that flax, whom he adored and respected. vasya, now we will have some kind of congress. sorry, i'll scold your star ticket. who is speaking? yes, let's understand all this, that is, was it possible in a peaceful way? without any, that is, well, in short, a revolution or revolution, that is, was it possible to follow the chinese path, relatively speaking, the chinese path is the preservation of the political system while developing economic relations. well, this

thought is connected with the acute climate, you know, because russia has experienced so much. we already had everything, the tsar was lenin, there was trotsky . stalin was khrushchev, and so on perestroika was after perestroika was what else the possibilities are running out of everything. you know what's the matter. and now it seems to me that, well, the best time to realize yourself and what writes and has already become so. with a sharp wing , but without consequences, but without these negative traits, and it seems to me that now the time has come for this, because such were the antagonists, and this is reflected in the island with wings. i don't know, the russian cosmopolitan party. everything, right now. it seems to me that it’s enough already to collide, with each other’s foreheads and people, these parts of them have already died, and then, when you start to carefully examine

the texts, you will find who. all of a sudden, everything between astafin and aksen is not such an abyss or the shukshins who bugged you? i already don’t even say poshukshina, because they are two vasily in no way. well, i thought that the three great vasily of russian prose of the end of the second half of the twentieth and beginning of the xxi century, this is vasily aksyonov fazili a scander, which vasily was also baptized and vasily shukshin understand, they themselves are not very shukshin and aksyonov almost did not come into contact with iskander; he, as it were, has his own ideas, but it is clear that what unites them. before. you know aksyonov is a dude on micropolis, so shukshin is a man drunk drove, when he studied he drove, so, er, it means that iskander came down from the mountains, and

therefore, it is not clear. why does he write in russian wonderfully like this. i think that they were united by one thing, that for them russia is not my country. in general, what's the matter? and this is how it should be now. it seems to me that we should be guided by this, and because evolution is better than any revolution, but by the way, i think that the island of crimea gives such hope, because the ending of this novel. he is so very kind, but tragic. terrible, yes, there is a son, yes, anton luchnikov, that is, uh son. anton is just his name, son anton, grandson arseny, that is, there is also a name, it’s like this, andrey, father, sow, arseny anton, and it’s not by chance that the person, of course, loved, adored those things. they all leave, crimea and soviet soldiers must destroy them, but do not destroy. it's very beautiful these helicopters fly. aksyonovsky language, they are almost obscene. they say. what does she say, the most. eh,

here's how the cross says the guy lies and thinks about everything, and there is another child one says. yes, i will not throw a bomb, too, he says. well and how is it possible to throw a live bomb at all, they shoot past and the person who controls. so, they say in a boring voice, so, you know, they say, the task is completed, this is repeating the task, they completed these, and there is some great hope in this. e, what is really reconciliation, perhaps a dialogue is possible, therefore , i still have this from this novel. here. eh, good feeling, after the good is the light is good. this is one of the secrets of literature, because sometimes a person writes some terrible absolutely. things without any light, and then read and what color feeling?

well, if he had killed them, it would have been very bad, after all, thanks to him for sparing it , if he had not described how gromit everything in yalta, these who joined here would also be poorly understood, but in in the process of feeling the light, you know, i am now from a completely different area. i will give an example and even a different age and that's it. now i got to read a book published in minusinsk of the novel. senchina with a bad house name. horror absolutely chernukha goes on, and you read the story with bright sensations. this is a literary mystery, and therefore i have it all in the mystery, you understand, and god gave him to write this. this is roman as the island of crimea, and it is no coincidence that it has become so that now, uh, you don’t even have to repeat it anymore. nobody has forgotten who crimea is. the island of crimea. you understand, yes? here, of course, this crimean note is still important, yes, after all, this novel takes its place in the work of aksyonov and it

takes its place. here in this here is a wonderful literature dedicated to the crimea starting. well, at least. from pushkin there the bakhchisaray fountain of pushkin's lyricists then into sevastopol stories then chekhov kuatushin voloshin of limbs. paustovsky alexander green greenland is the same crimean country. but i wonder for vasily palych it mattered. this is his belonging , the feeling that he belongs to this crimean text. you know, i think he never thought about it and never declared it, but he felt it. and who he had at all, these are his favorite writers. e from such an older generation of classics, some idols are literary people. know me it’s hard to remember now, so i think that, of course, he loved the western hemingways there, most likely, this is understandable. it's all like that. well, i'm one of ours. so, babel is mined by platonov. but by the way, i'm talking about green. this is a very interesting thing, because green also, in fact, made his island

in the crimea, greenland, and indeed , geographically, in general, it is located in the crimea. although in his green novels. she is scattered all over the world, but all these cities, and there zurbagan, yes, and there is also a lilis, right? here, this is all in general, crimean cities, because he lived in the crimea, and for quite a few years he wrote the last years of his life, and he also recreated, this crimean text, the crimean territory is also such a miracle, because outwardly his texts, than someone could come up with some scarlet sails there, everything is easier. but no. that's the most important thing, as a person writes, you still understand, not even what he thinks the house, while thinking like that, you can do whatever you want. and that's why? well, you know all this, no worse than me, especially since you understand the personality here, because you can invent everything, anything and tell that i will write everything

that you try, write it and here the higher power is already included, of course. well, yes, and vasilyevich, uh, certainly had it, and then look. eh, he also has such a very tragic biography. yes, my father sat, sat , sat more than my mother, moreover, when they were imprisoned. first they imprisoned, uh, mother, then father, which means they think that they will never see, because you think, well, everything is over, and therefore the father already had another family, then everything, although he loved macho. the famous book steep route here i am now i found aksyonovsky's father, which means, it's interesting, just at the same time, when before leaving he wrote that's it. here he came to say goodbye to him. so, as before leaving for america, aksyonov had a conversation with him there, then he leaves. well, i can’t talk to pasha. and this,

by the way, these relationships exist in kryny island, too, between father and son. yes, but they are very gentle there, how is the grandfather loves his grandson, how the grandson loves his grandfather, these are the lines, they really hold. this novel. they turn it from political to so familial family, in fact, family osago which could be even further true. and i would also say that this is a love story. you see, it's very interesting right now. there it begins that they appear in the house of the archers in two american professional furnets , and which, well, such women, as we now say, have reduced social responsibility, and suddenly at the end of the romanovs it turns out that they grow up and they become such a completely serious subject love. and this human growth, which is there, is also very important, and kaev loved him, although he was loved and protected and covered, he protected and covered, how interesting and how it means why he was taken to the magazine

youth you know not. so, youth was the most popular magazine at that time, if the new world had a circulation, for example, 50-100.000 , kotaev’s youth’s refill was under a million , you understand, but this is because such figures were lowered from above, if yes, if they were released and a new the world would be more like it was impossible to subscribe to them then played this subscription, in my opinion, it’s just that they didn’t go down, because the youth read him i remember youth will be printed in youth. yes, so, that means in literature. me and students. now i explain what it means to be stupider . which one to take in an envelope, put it to send in the ranks, look for a person who will give it to someone, then pomerantsev was such a person. see here. evgenia semyonovna gezur asked him to show kataev

two stories by aksyonovsky. this means that he read the kataevskys and he was delighted with the phrase that the surface of the canal in st. petersburg resembled an unwiped, piano cover so cool, and he read this phrase said print it immediately. and this was the first publication of aksyonov, which he was extremely dissatisfied with, because it was two komsomol stories. and then it’s wonderful when he already has a higher colleague. this is already aksyonok to read it. she describes in memorial books how he was called to the youth magazine where the great people kataev sat ironing everything and suddenly we roll, which means you say that but there is immediately a wonderful new writer vasily aksyonov and some people contributed dozens of numbers, colleagues, you understand , so he already received such glory at least there yes, of course,

he was an amazing person with an enviable. uh, fate with its incredible literary victories, who lived such a very beautiful life. here, so let's say to him, thank you for what he was said to say. that's what the stars are about. and there are idols, you know, a star is a star, everything can be popular there, then the idol will go out forever. here is the idol aksyonov dude iskander of wonderful philosophers. and shukshin and thanks to all of them, because they are absolutely different and absolutely supporting life in ours with you country. thanks to you and evgeny anatolyevich remembering vasily pavlovich, read, friends, re-read aksyonov and you will get great pleasure. this is a podcast. a wonderful life, and alexei varlamov

, a writer and rector of a literary institute, was with you. and my guest was a wonderful prose writer and suddenly vasily pavlovich evgeny anatolyevich popov this is a hockey football podcast. my name is denis kazansky hello today our guest is alexei morozov president of the kontinental hockey league alekseevich good afternoon, alexei, you also know such a thing , it turns out that the feeling of your public speaking, as soon as you entered the position of president, but it was not immediately given to you. it's not like the captain giving some big speech to his crew. this is not one. and also. if you take it as a captain, i did not immediately become. yes, i played with different captains. yes, and in america, i scored how the adults perform in front of the team , set up the team, say something when

they wear their thoughts. perhaps this is also my experience. here i saw visited locker room, then became the captain and already knew when to say something, felt some guys knew who he played with, who you can shout at, who you can say, who better not to touch, but when public speaking in the role of president already, of course. at first, it was hard to get lost somewhere, because i didn’t know everything, you know, here you have to answer because of marketing and legal questions, financial answers, and sports questions. what is going on in the league about every club to know to follow this, so there were some questions when they were, of course it's hard for me well, now, thank god, more than a year has passed, and yet it has become easier for me in this regard, and such a team needs a coach, because we hear, or that before the third period with the canadians, a and bykov and zakharkin. they just left the locker room. and there were conversations, fedorova and veteranov well, of course, they heard ours, you know, there is already the third period. ah, character play. yes, everyone already knew

what to do and we need to compare the score, we need to go forward, and they simply heard what was said in the locker room so that we would say that everyone who wanted to speak. yes, get a partner some additional emotion to accept each other. they heard it. why , perhaps, something to say was additional. we've all gone already. that this is our last 20 minutes, i thought about it before. well, somehow you know, when we were planning a house there with our wife. i still have such a place for my office that i will sit at the table to solve some questions. maybe it will be a business? what's the plan? why , here i will have my notebooks there, some notes something computer on the computer will have to watch. that is, i took such a corner to myself in the house. here. well, it came in handy at the moment, but anyway, how did it turn out you are the president of the league but for us , it’s really in the trying kazan trio and a luxurious game like, well, in

a functional team and such a very fast jump in the official, how did this happen? well, i actually got an offer. yes , as i ended my career, i did nothing for a year, the coach did not consider it, and dmitry nikolaevich chernyshenko received an offer, a call. so-so alex would like to meet and talk with you. discuss let's meet. well, i came to the meeting, then georgy viktorovich kobylyansky was also meeting with the vice-presidential khl for hockey operations, and we talked and he says such a proposal, now we are in charge of the khl in our youth hockey league. so you would like to involve you and offer to help us engage in youth hockey, but i was interested in it, because i still wanted to stay in sports, i wanted to stay in hockey. in what capacity is there not a coach. yes, maybe a manager club thought, once dreamed there, but if you lead the clubs to help, in which club? well , i'm interested in this, because, well,

interesting hockey, work how to develop uh, share your experience. well, that's why i agreed after working in the mhl and got a chance to lead the khl and when they came home, after they heard that you were from the nhl well , they offered to move to a higher job, yes , the president of the continental, to put it mildly, your feeling is higher. talking to my wife, well my wife always wanted me to have some career growth further, yes, and the mhl is still from the khl maybe he didn’t consider the president there, but the vice president in the khl is more responsible for something. here, well, you always want career growth, but here, when such a moment has come. i told her that this is how it is being considered. my candidacy for president of the board of directors. and we are developing the women's hockey league, yes, and this is globally everything, and marketing and finance and legal, let's talk about the salary cap. can you tell what the length is? well that's for as long as the league has existed

the salary cap has become the most such highlight the most important moment. this is probably one of the big and global such changes that we were going to what we want every match to be intriguing every match played from until the last minute. nobody could predict. who will be the winner e more? half of the teams to qualify for the cup, uh, this increases the intrigue, so here's what we wanted and what, uh, contributes to this. i remember very well, the moment when you became president, just this situation was very topical with the salary cap and there was a very serious skepticism that you would still be able to approve this case, because they said. well, he is a young president morozov, most likely, he will have a very strong influence on him. and this innovation will not be, how difficult it was really then to finish it all. hmm. well, you know , it all started not with me. e, nikolayevich

was still starting and it was being developed for a long time. and it's all the same. and when i arrived, it was already it was legally agreed that everything would be exactly the ceiling in 2 years. and now i remember that there were different options proposed to the board of directors. there, the ceiling of 600 million was one of the ideas and two stars. yes, and brought to the ceiling and there is a lot of talk. and what are the criteria for this star, who is considered a star, how much has he played? how many scored or what kind of popularity is there, so on the site of directors simply the majority of clubs and members of the board of directors voted just 900 let's leave it. well, because it's here in the previous heads. yes, they calculated looked at er, to all budgets of all clubs. yes, who can hold out, who can not. uh, what a difference and therefore 600 was proposed. yes two stars and everyone thought that, well, guys who will be

returning from north america they will be considered only stars. well, the rest of the clubs, too, can withdraw someone. well , a decision was made 900 and we have been living with this for 3 years now and look at these 3 years. we do not raise this ceiling for any inflation . we started curious, because kazan is not a stranger to you, when you see what takeoffs there comes and you somehow. everything that's in your head. and how they fit in there, well , we see all the budgets fit in and the guys get, well, good money. yes, we also have bonuses for winning, unlimited bonuses if the team wins the cup. uh, can get any award? yes, it is not limited, so the guys are going, you know, these are good team conditions. yes, the ambition of the team is that it always fights for the championship and the guys who come also want to win. many people play hockey, but you know, in your fifteen-year career, won nothing, everyone wants

to win something. and this is slava, and this is still recognition of him, as athletes of 600 hockey players, but you understand very little, after all , and we have a hockey country, it is in the top five, you can say, yes, countries for the development of hockey and everyone is used to everything to a good high level. if we lower it completely to the level of 600, then, well, probably those of our top players who deserve to receive good salaries show the result cannot be sought. uh, some income. uh, on the side go to other leagues break through. try to make money there. an athlete's career is not so long, so 900 is the best thing for me to tighten my belts at the moment. well, we already have now, uh, we also have a strategy to move away from state funding, so that the club itself develops

its commercial structure and earns money. we open some additional sponsorship opportunities for clubs. well, uh, a year ago, the category of bookmakers was opened, and that’s why we are slowly moving towards gradually moving away from state funding, of course, this is hard to do here and podnemii political situation. that is, well, we are working in this direction and in the new strategy. we will still continue to go in this direction to help the blood to recover privately. yes, of course, we always help them. we even approved directors, what are we uh? obliged all clubs to develop their commercial development strategy for 3 years. that is , they must understand where they will go next. and how it will increase, we are monitoring this, how they are performing, how they are moving towards these indicators. and here we help, you know, we are in in football we often talk about it less often in hockey,

but still, beer in football stadiums is a whole story, because there is still no way. and to do this, although the clubs themselves say that this is a huge article for them to make money in the khl we see that different clubs make their own decisions in minsk it is possible in kazan it is possible there conditionally yaroslavl no why is there no unified system at the moment we have a law that you can not advertise and distribute this alcoholic product on sports weapons, so we are obedient people and adhere to our laws, which we currently have a lot of talk about this about the state duma and sent our vision proposals to the ministry of sports of the russian federation, this process is underway, being worked out. well, here's how the official decision will be made, then we can already allow everyone to be able to distribute and attract as

sponsors. this is also extra money and alcohol. well, so to speak, that is, it turns out that those clubs that are now they are doing. well, no one works with us, there is no advertising of an alcoholic product in any palace, it is sold. well , he does not see this, yes, from alcohol. well , maybe wow. and you yourself. how do you know it's for selling it on well, i 'll tell you. yes, because it seems to me that this is a component of the game and this is for the club. that is, if everything is in good order, why is there no income for clubs ? benefit for the fans, probably, yes, who wants to come after a hard day's work drink uh, some beer have a bite to watch hockey with the family, yes, enjoy the child having fun on hockey. we now have window clubs, with fans for children for families and there are different playrooms

for children's rooms. and in general they try to do their own shows, so why not, if it's all within, uh, normal behavior, yes, in the stands, which we hold, and in our league, it has always been rigged. let's be so frank under the national team, that is. we knew that gagarin's cuba was ending 3-4 days of pause and better go to the world championship won in the nhl where this, in principle, was impossible and the world championship is a completely different story, and it gets there. those who do not fall into the swim you as you see the situation. right now, because we have been suspended, it is not clear when we will return, what should the khl do to extend the season to start later , not like now. how is the league developing in the current environment? well, first of all, we have legal contracts until april 30th. it is necessary to rewrite the entire contracts. here are the second, we have foreigners who play foreign clubs that participate in the world cup. if, according to the rules of hf, we will not release a player a week before the start

of the world cup if he is called up by the national team and this will be a big precedent and conflict. still, we are cooperating with the heers fhr is a member of the international federation. yes, we must adhere to these rules, so we do not touch this may. yes, the russian team is not participating, but this year. we just met today. uh, we discussed this issue with the ice hockey federation of russia. e this may and next season. and they're going on tour with the first to the seventeenth of may, but the national team will travel around the cities to play and there in belarus but they will probably tell this. that is, we also get in there when the uh team plays foreigners. you need to let go, you know, uh, having considered this, but uh, we will reschedule and we will take the fifteenth. you can say may, yes, well, our team can get into the playoffs, where there are three foreign players. this can be said to be the first link or five legionnaires, but they were called up to

the national team and in the final a team without the first five will play, which went all season and lose in the final. but it will be a shame and for sports unfair, a very controversial topic of recent times. this is the limit introduction of the limit. these are the religionists. now on the team. ah. the hockey society was divided. i'm in the skeptical part because i think that keeping a limit will help our young players develop, because if he is young, he hits anyway, if he has talent, the legionnaire will not take his place. uh, why did he show up? what was the need for a limit? well, in fact, the position of the league we expressed us five people the limit was fine, and we looked at the moment. we have only four clubs there with five foreign players. the remaining four, three , almost completely abandoned foreign players altogether, yes, and they use kazan as an example. yes, they shifted all this money that the legionnaire relied on russian players gathered a russian team

and play. here, but someone went the other way, so five after all. we think we have good legionnaires coming. look here at the moment to take. uh, better scorers. we have three legionnaires out of five. the best defenders are scorers, and with five non-kish one first yes and four foreigners are legionnaires. and those legionnaires. they are good players. they are crafty. they are, on the contrary, our young guys. to the same, uh, siberia will take backing murphy yes, and their legionnaires are top. uh, sharov, how they help, he grows after them. he watches them grow. and we need us, well, we do not want to abandon the legionnaires now close. we are all russian, because soon , uh, this path to the international arena will open but we must be able to. uh, you know , to oppose yourself to where the international arena and these legionnaires will be now. they

help us. they come here to show their skills, our young ones are drawn to them , even our guys, the collections that, well, played at the first channel cup. yes, they constantly compete with them, they don’t just compete with the young, playing and scoring their goals, showing beautiful hockey, well, they don’t develop further, they don’t go. uh, you know, in terms of sports development, everything is up, but still from five up to three. we reduce the number of such a decision was made to three. e. you know, we have expressed our position not everything we can change, therefore, well, next year we will live with three legions. let's see. well , i'm sure that the clubs are still these three legionnaires. they will be top. yes, but that is, well, you personally, sorry about what has already been said, our position was to save five.

let's talk about the kunlun of a friend who is not very interested in hockey more than football, they constantly ask about this team somehow and the first question. if there are chinese, i say that you are. yes, it's all right. everything is fine, but the second question. and where are the games taking place, because somewhere once they heard that there were matches in beijing, shanghai, but for the last couple of years they have been playing in mytischische, which of course, well, it just introduces incredible embarrassment, because the horse, and mytishchi is generally unclear, firstly, why do we need a chinese team. secondly, why is she not playing at home? well, first of all, the pandemic intervened. yes, they couldn't play. hey team. i want to steal in general, the chinese market is also interesting to us. and you know, uh, to watch before the olympics, in fact, what they did not say began to create. the team

is preparing for the olympic games at home everyone follow hockey after the olympics watched this level of hockey and wow everyone liked it. here, let's, uh, have something like this in our homeland. and here is the team. she, in principle , is waiting for when she will be able to go, and we also want the chinese to still play, play at home, we understand that in mytishchi they will assemble a palace and their own audience of fans and sell paraphernalia. well, there are very few people who will come to every match to cheer for them . it was hard to collect. well, in china, they not only started to understand, it was 3 years before the olympics, not only did they begin to show up. we remember how we opened this palace for the last moment, they made ice there , you remember the video, when the team’s mascot came out he couldn’t skate on ice. i remember the puck ran away. yes

, it was passed because, well, it's a new product for them. and now, after the olympics, they learned and saw world-class products and want to have them there and it is also attractive for us, so that the chinese go there. well, as soon as things get better. and they can go. we will only support their decisions, but now they are forced in order not to dissolve the team, then not to re -create it is always easy to break. yes , it is difficult to create, while there is an inner history, because a new palace appears. we just opened in novokuznetsk, you know, when we lost many international partners last year. uh, then, well looked to our large giants, who can cooperate with us and there is an interest to cooperate, who will help us to promote this brand and now this year the series of cars is already limited. yeah, under the khl will be released. yes, let's see, we're on it

now. we are collecting a complete package of documents that should be submitted to the board of directors, where they will make a decision, but at the moment there, uh, anyway, we communicate, we talk, we don’t provide enough funding for the club, the one that we consider necessary in order to exist, we see, it’s all other clubs. who has what budget not just salaries. yes, we have a floor ceiling, and our floor in general, uh, in 2 years it will grow and reach 50% of the floor, this is 450 million. that is, it must be mortgaged, and we ask for a guarantee for 3 years in advance so that it is not a one-time promotion. yes it was not possible to try for one season. uh, then back to the vhl another topic. she is literally there yesterday this is the history of novosibirsk siberia i think you know very well for those who are not very aware of what is happening during the performance of the national anthem in line. hail country. we are proud of you all the spectators of the palace are packed. i myself heard it

was shouting at the match. glory to siberia and a letter appears that the khl recommends. but then there is a rather strange wording in which many see, you know, the prohibition for fans to sing this. you can tell us what we are forbidden to eat laws to eat. uh, a conversation began on such nuances for the behavior of the fans. the club is in charge. yes, we can ask, we sent out, not only siberia, we sent out to everyone, you know, we just got conversations, what is there now the anthem is paraphrased somewhere in general, as they are turned off in st. petersburg. let's go akpl everyone sing the anthem and we just pointed to the existing law, which everyone must adhere to, sent to all clubs in order to just know, a reminder that there is such a law, so here every club perceives my letters were not sent to siberia that we

forbid or say something, we point the flowerbed at the law to which everyone must adhere. this applies to every club and every such letter turned out if they want yes, well, how we, if you constituted bodies react and consider that this is still a distortion? yes, the anthem. well, of course, we then need to hear the arguments and we need to understand that in siberia about the land of siberia and russia, of course, so i, frankly, understand nothing of the attacks, but again, the league is nothing. this is just a letter of recommendation that follows this is important to emphasize, because again. well, here society can somehow be a fan of several thousand at once with a blow. who is throwing in what kind of ban is put? who is this newsletter okay, not about all clubs. which khl is your dream. so what do you imagine? i understand that now there are a huge number of restrictions. uh problems. well,

the ideal league, here is alexei morozova well , i think that intrigue in every match is interesting hockey, but there are more goals. eh, we are also working on this and thinking about the rules. which can be changed as well, so that no one could predict the outcome. uh, i went to hockey to cheer for my team, just to support it so that it won, because i don’t know, we beat or you come. oh, we play today with such a team. we will definitely lose. we'll go and see if there's anything. something will happen, and here every team has a chance, so we are trying to equalize. uh, no one has lineups before the season so they don't know who will win. here comes the playoffs so that the eighth team can win the cup. yes, you came from the eighth position. well, you have such a team a chance. how will you show yourself? this is how difficult it will be. here it will be interesting. this is

what i stream, and i think it will attract fans and follow the hockey and the same youth. this year we launched khl hockey lessons there to attract young schools to watch in schools, each of the clubs held each club and we held each club with talismans so that for children, uh, to attract them with their parents, they wanted to come to hockey, and there, really intrigue in the match colorful show entertainment for children. have a bite to drink even beer, as we said before, yes, dad is there to spend a family evening to go home with good emotions. again two points system. how do you think it contributes? well, about the development of hockey or not, because lately there has been a lot of talk about the fact that such matches have become passable, to put it mildly, passable

. overtime or by shootout, but this is not a passing match to give up there to decide one there, we looked at the statistics are not the same for the last 5 years there. eh, not that big of a difference. how many goals were scored in the last 7 minutes in the third period? we watched, yes, that is, if the match was, for example, uh, 7 minutes before the end, the score was 2:20, so, yes, continued that or a three-pointer, which is almost the same with a two-point system, of course, there are pluses in a three-pointer system. you know, it doesn't depreciate, it's still a victory. uh, in regular time, she gets three. and now we have the main time due to overtime. you still earn two points. yeah, that is, here there are some nuances, but we held a meeting with the head of the clubs. we made this proposal consider change. well, most of the clubs,

only four clubs, have supported, which are also considered to be three-point systems. she is more fair. and and while that we remain, well, the opinion of the clubs. we are still listening to these and while we continue to look. right now, just the ending of the championship after the championship. we will discuss more, uh, and see how these urine passes. great what are you flexible? what can you, well, really listen to those who are around, and leonid slutsky was here on the air not so long ago, we have a podcast of paws and talked about that hockey is such a local sport, because, well, some folks won't recognize. well, well, frankly, yes, and they go out, again they won in the nhl , people without helmets come out there to warm up before the game to show their hairstyles once again to pose a little differently with us, our warm-up is a warm-up. it's definitely there two one three two. here's what you need to try to do right. here, how would you look at it at his words that this is a local sport. well, it is true

that hockey players. well, even a visa is conditional it's a job everywhere you recognize he has a helmet on the back of his head. he rode without a tooth, smiling. and that's it, and then, and then failure. well, there is, of course, a little bit of such a nuance that in the helmet. yes, there are players on the roll-out, but we, you know, need more, probably, pay attention to the fact that we ourselves should be more media, promote their players, invite them to various programs , show them, uh, tell about them, u participate, so that they in different uh, shows, yes, uh, for people to see and it was written on this player then it and will be then in the face know. well, we have such a struggle going on here. uh, with the coaching staff. yes, we have a coaching staff are you used to that guys? what it is, even some coaches have introduced a telegram channel, then all this distracts me, the result does not bring the team, so i close it correctly, but read it. i know the information, what's going on? yes

, in the country i myself did not read, was not honestly signed to him, but then when all this was told in the news and in my dagest it came to the table in the morning. so i read all this and am aware, so the coach forbids the players. there's somewhere involved in some events, they say, do not distract. we have a very tight schedule. and he needs to rest and prepare for the game. we have the result above all, so when we put it on, we have this balance so that the players also participate in the medina and promote themselves, and we will promote them to these clubs. it helped, then there will be popularity among both the players and the clubs and the income of the clubs, probably the players themselves. here, right there, the family attracts e people. attention, hockey yes, you look at him and want to see, damn it, what kind of players are there, what kind of people are these come on let's go and look at this radulov, how does he portray there? something in the match with the green

derby, yes, no one understood everything, you probably remember when he broke. well, i don’t know, panin, i won’t say who he is, well, it’s also cool and interesting, and it attracted. it made all the news. uh, a lot of people have been talking about it. that's why, uh, in the nhl. yes, it's decided to go out there without a helmet to go out for a roll-out. just stretching is considered there. it's just such a warm-up to feel the puck to try the skates. are they sharpened correctly to show, as we said, yes, in front of you there was a legal loan in the nhl, this was not the case. what a fresh history we have and conditionally examples of a comb of newcomers shows that it's great and the guys are developing. you have watched football. and how did it appear? not well football, she definitely didn't watch. there is this history of practice, i remember it was worked out for a long time, because there were a lot of nuances. eh, we have been consulting with the clubs for more than one

year and have even actually proposed directors. i remember one structure, after all , we were told to finalize it. we went on to improve. uh, bring it all. eh, how it was born what we have agreed upon. let's not rent. we had hidden ones. yes guys, this is wrong. wrong so let's do it legally. come on , they just worked out a lot of nuances for a long time, and yet it worked, look. yes, there are examples that young guys got chances and are now playing at the level of the surname, they really do dazzle. and there everyone was watching matvey, and yes, yes, there, for development , to play with the peasants, well, he doesn’t live up to this one. moment to ska level yeah why sochi gives him playing time, therefore , we still have respect between the leagues. i mean nhl khl in terms of contracts. yes, we have a memorandum in force, we extended it this

year on august 1 respecting the contracts of the two parties. and over this year, there has not been a single precedent that a player with an nhl contract came to us or a player with a khl contract left for the nhl , so we continue to have the same interactions , how important it will be to compete between khl clubs nhl i understand that this is again the situation such that now it's impossible to imagine, but we had precedents when phoenix came here . and as far as i remember, the crown also came. yes, it was. well, this is incredible. weather ago , we talked with the nhl, so we met about it. e, here we talked, well, now the negotiations have stopped on this topic. no one is talking, so, well, now it's useless talking, of course, we are in order for the fans to be interested in watching the wow confrontation. we are for this and

our clubs, we communicated and many are even ready take a short break. if you need it in september, and we are ready to make concessions to make the calendar so that some clubs can play. i know i'm vanguard and most importantly krylov, he communicated with the nhl clubs directly and through us in order to hold such matches. well, for now, what our podcast poked around is called hockey not football and there is a lot of overlap between these games. at the same time, which, of course, is not football, and we will ask why, but for now let's remember your career, when you were in kazan at that time , rubin beat barcelona and this, of course, it was unbelievable when he became a champion and when he became a champion of russia and ak bar. and the champion of russia in football, kazan then there was a struggle for spectators, you remember those times, but there was a struggle, you know, kazan generally developed, there was unix basketball and volleyball. uh, and everyone almost became

a champion there. here, uh, and the sport is so developed what? of course, we must fight for the disease. yes, we then had a new palace, we never complained, it seemed that people walked at us, but we always kind of walked. yes, well, in the playoffs, but the regular season was not always a cue ball also here, but we always fought for the fact that we were on these kings of the city, that hockey rules everything here. here in tatarstan, the first sport is football hockey. but everyone loves hockey, hockey brings everything and victories, of course, i wanted to win, you know. against this background, there are a lot of e in one city. there are many professional teams that competed, but a little bit, i really wanted to see what kind of football. are we with this in us for football in the championship or not? why did the guys and i communicate, we were friends, you know there not so many restaurants in kazan. yes? and, in

principle, there after the games we met in restaurants. we were friends there, and they invited us, we invited them there with bukhara, well , we still communicate with someone, so we don’t, and we rooted for them and went to the match. and here they are , our teammate is still listed in barca. we hope to play in the playoffs, but he plays. but sergei zinoviev is another partner. we don’t hear anything about him at all, where is he, he would somehow communicate, well, we periodically he moved to sochi to live. i know we've met matches, when the match of the stars was held in kazan and we arranged a veteran match there. he participated with us, in novokuznetsk i also met him at the match, since it was he who called me, and there he was interested. his children go in for hockey, it turns out, but he thought, and if you move to moscow but live permanently. what is the hockey lodge school for kids or is there

an age? so we maintain relations there are no such frequent seasons, for example, as with danis, right? eh, and there are even some joint discussions. here, well, we maintain a good relationship. if we are always happy to talk and learn other news when you come to kazan to play hockey or watch ak bars on tv you see number 21 from ninety- five. what but so is well no. well, why are all these numbers from well, they are not immortalized, that they cannot be taken? well, yes, you know, we have the same structure now. the vhl team and the khl team allocate numbers, which then did not intersect. well took the ninety-fifth i like it, in general now on these. i probably, then, uh, when i left for the nhl and chose the ninety-fifth one was in the nhl under the ninety- fifth number, everything is there for me, probably, on my choice. well, at first i had twenty-second

, twenty-fourth and third. uh, there's option ninety-five. well, if you get it, well , just like the first two were taken. i got 95. well, i already put it on. in general, it was not enough to see now, and in my opinion, even morozov is the ninety-fifth in sakhalin sharks. uh-huh yes , in our yes there is 909, so it has already become somewhere popular. it was a podcast, hockey is not football. my name is denis kazansky at a party. we had alexei morozov president of the kontinental hockey league thank you for your time. yes hello friends. i am vadim galygin, this is a podcast of jokes today, given the theme of our program, and jokes from musicians and about

musicians are musical jokes. i want to introduce my guest right away. this is a music producer. uh, the author of many uh songs for himself for other artists singer composer brandon hello well, we are like this tête-à-tête today we want to turn the conversation about the specifics of jokes, because there are a lot of jokes on some narrow topics and this concerns the professional activities of various people, but people. there are anecdotes about doctors, a huge number of them, i don’t know about policemen, there and so on and so on about builders. well, such a large plast , this humor lies in the musical plane, because musicians are well, people are kind of creative yes, uh , not everyone understands how they do it in general, musicians pull the strings, press the key

music sounds, therefore, their humor is peculiar. agree here, please tell me there is. do you think they are very different, and people related to music, but from normal people from ordinary people. it probably depends on the degree of musicianship. so, what can i say? that's the more you're a musician. the more you are a genius in music. uh-huh exactly, then, probably, your pain is more somehow specific taste of the perception of anecdotes. you do not always perceive jokes about musicians, because it is normal how other people perceive this. for example, because