what is the absolute truth and to the last word, as also an element of the auto-fictional narrative. she can be, uh, also part of uh, and the plot is part of uh, the story. yes, i'm telling the truth, but in fact, you never know, she says we have no way to check. yes, we have this is such a frame. yes, in which we operate. uh, and even this text. uh, we're from the start. we can doubt its absolutely documentary. at least, because we, uh, do not get the exact dates of birth of the heroine, uh, the date of birth indicated in the first publications sixties. uh, the sixties year was not exactly a date. e was born in the fifty- eighth year, because, and the mother after the death of her daughter. here is the mother to engage in the publication of the diary to edit. and yes, she cut it. uh, life for a few years to fate. it seemed even more tragic

for two years. yes, after all, she gets into the club, 27 - this is who kurt cobain kurt cobain is pak shakur and uh, and maria and maria bashkirsky well, in general, she gets into excellent company to put it mildly, but this is what confuses me. a when she starts to go into them, she is 11 or 12 years old, she is still quite transparent, and then already at 15-16 years old. she comes back and makes some edits herself and uh, then the idea comes to her that u diary - this is her opportunity, and to show the life of one woman. and this is her opportunity to become famous. that is, if you look at her trilogy and there is the hero's arc, then she has changed quite a lot, from 15 to 25, and at the beginning she was driven by the desire for glory . what she writes about, and she repeatedly all the time. i want to write glory, i dream of being famous. this,

by the way, she is related to kurt kobey. he is also said to have signed that he wanted to be famous since he was a teenager. and she tries all kinds of arts. that is, she draws and sings. e, writes and it seems to me that at the initial stage she is not just looking for herself. she is still looking for that very short path to glory yes, she remains an artist, but still it seems to me that we know her first of all, it is from her diary, but, probably, about the artistic value of her paintings. i gotta ask you, uh, i want to talk about something about whether you i think the best autofiction specialist in russia today. you have a lecture about mary of the bashkirs. tell us how you imagine her literary work, in some general context of this autofectional prose. well, here you need to make a small clarification that the lecture about maria bashkirtsev is not included in auto-phishing courses, but

i have a course on literature of the 19th century, the purpose of which was, well, to shake the canons a little, to show what we have conditionally, not only pushkin lermontov tolstoy dostoevsky , but also other authors of women, yes, women and and lectures on all the major male writers, followed by short lectures on women. that is, i spoke. look, we have conditionally a-a. turgenev chernyshevsky we also have a bashkirtsev or a zodiacian. well, these are slightly different time periods. but so we have a structure after the bashkir one, it is even mentioned in its opinion, and reflects. by the way, i am on the side of lisa the deacon and you in many ways. well, maria of the bashkirs was the first , of course, yes. what about the artistic work of the bashkir vlad and the architect did you study? e tell me how you rate this breakthrough. e

bashkirtseva to glory through painting, because his last years are the last 6 years. she quits social life, she stops hanging out and, uh, starts working hard from morning to night, literally counting the hours that she has on the way to the studio. they move closer to the studio, so as not to spend 2 hours a day, because it's 48 days a year and it means that she is rapidly mastering the path from a student to a leader. e picturesque salons on a par with the pool or the page and other artists, it must be said that i am not blind art critic. but if you trust the art of the vedas, they report that it is impossible to talk about the real artistic heritage of the bashkirs. hmm, because she left too early. her life was the first, she is too early, as art critics say. uh, she had a real break away from academicism in the last two years. er, and that is, she went to the peaks on the ascending line and it is not known how

high this line would go, but she left. just starting to open up. here in their latest work. and here olya, uh, mentioned this and i would like to develop the idea. eh, it seems to me what a diary. eh, the bashkirs and her painting. yes, they initially proceeded from the intention to become famous. yes, become, uh, popular famous. she even writes at the age of 15 to such an often beloved and vain person as i need to become attached to painting, because this is a very lively inexhaustible activity. i will therefore neither be a philosopher nor a chemist. i can only be a singer and an artist. this is already a lot. and then i want to be popular. this is the main thing, in general, pragmatic choices, but uh, choosing the path of painting bashkirsky thinks that this is the path to glory uh, but this choice completely transforms her, and this can be seen from the diaries, because how much the personality changes. she goes from m-m immature infantile whimsical. e ladies into

a real sacrificial person who is really ready for the sake of art. uh , give up everything that was dear to him before. and that is. eh, no matter how the antennae, uh, the bashkirtseva truly embarks on the path of the artist, eh, but eh. well, you can as a person who has learned. eh, art, yes fine, but appreciate its breakthrough. you understand that this is unrealistic. at this level to paint pictures her pictures hang in the russian museum her picture hangs in the musée dorce in paris that is, it really is a high level , the highest of some kind, maybe, and she passed it very quickly. you understand it. you understand? this is some kind of work behind this, of course, i understand. but uh , it seems to me that this is a debatable question, but i 'll express my opinion that it is fair to call an artist important or accomplished.

if he set some direction, he had some influence on the hosts, uh, well, not necessarily new. in general, uh, artist it is considered important if he changed the cultural landscape, if some of his ideas sprouted into the future, so uh, well, it is important to note that the ideas of the bashkir her uh, some finds in painting. yes, they did not find a proposal, there are no people who would confirm the influence, uh , on their art, unlike literature, well , some of its influence is obvious. and many authors of the silver age were carried away. you can even say, to some extent , tsvetaeva is in love with all this. bryusov khlebnikov completely different aesthetics will work out, but nevertheless white, and i agree with vlad that this book begins as a diary of a young

girl seeking popularity, through appearance, no, through art. eh, a little more difficult, but when she stops at painting, and when she becomes real, and uncompromisingly and cruelly to herself in and it seems to me that the artist begins when he is ready to be cruel to himself. that's when this story, which i am personally interested in and change enchants the natural line with her in love. and it seems to me that, uh, when an artist devotes himself to everything, that is puts himself on the altar of his work, it cannot but cause. here is some profound change. and be it art literature. visual do not know that she did not choose, but the fact itself. eh, here's a job. ah, he produces.

in any case, yes, and he commands respect, but i can say that really one of the features of this diary is that it begins quite predictably for an aristocratic environment, yes , for a girl who is very rich, very beautiful and, let's say, artistically, yes, and we expect, of course, uh, after describing all fans of bols and similar outfits. of course, we expect that now it will hurt to marry some italian cardinal's nephew, yes, and or hmm that she will spin some kind of there, i don’t know, crazy romance or well, in general, she will do something, maybe through appearance yes, connected with her beauty and ability to dress. in fact, it is very sad that we expect this, but our stereotypes are absolutely torn at some point and we understand that this is a serious person. before us is a serious man. she chooses not

get married. you can say to abandon the female path completely and works like a beast in order to be perceived as a person, that is, she writes in this that if my painting gets into the salon, i will be perceived as a person for her. it is very important that she evokes with her work. yes, not by appearance e, not by the money of her parents, but by her work and the fact that she chooses this path, of course, suddenly, turns out to be unexpected in the same way as her tragic death earlier, her demands on herself are growing, because in at some point when her painting enters the salon. she says, or rather, writes about the fact that uh hmm in the salon uh, exposes this daub. and if this daub is real art, then this is not the biggest compliment for me. together with the level of self-criticism of reflection , compared with the girl we saw on the first pages. eh, completely different. and it seems to me that this is self-criticism

, it has roots in its narcissistic character. she is by nature a narcissistic person by nature, and this is even evident from how she feels about her own appearance. here, as she is thrown from side to side, eh, she delights in herself and says how wonderful she is and that everyone should bow down. uh, right there, and on the next page she can say that there is nothing special about me and there by the standards of soviet women, and i am of no interest to these people. i don't do anything. and i remember this moment, and she describes how she came to russia because she lives on her father's money in paris in rome. well, sometimes she goes to russian village. poltava and she arrives at some point, of course, creates a sensation in this chatter. so they make some kind of visits, and she herself mentions that someone

tells her that they saw the daughter of the bashkirs, a wonderful beauty, and she summarizes. these people haven’t seen anything in their lives, or here she writes at the age of 16, if i’m as good with myself as i say, from what they don’t like me, they look at me, they fall in love, but they don’t love me, who needs me so much in love. well, that is, uh, and her grades, uh own own literary works. she also, uh, often criticizes herself. e, they say that the description of some primitive e everyday things. i used such pompous high-pitched words. they are proportionate. why does she have such an uneven attitude towards herself, then criticism, then love about that on ah, yes, emotional swings, because sometimes she says yes. do you think that i, uh, spied on someone? no, this is my own thought. or there, she revels

in some of her prettiness there. and sometimes she says, oh, i can't describe it. it’s better for you to go to zulya or there to balzac for such details, yes, go, uh, or there, uh, it ’s impossible to describe, in order to feel it you need to be me, that is, she signs her failure. as a writer , too, but on the other hand there is a wonderful moment. e in the final, which i really like, and she reads an essay to tolstoy and in dimont and says that her soul rejoices and at the same time, she scolds herself for being a foreigner, she lives in france and does not leave to russia but why doesn't she do it? yes , why, because he can study only in paris keeps her alive and she writes. i also work for the glory of my motherland, if i eventually develop such a talent of some kind of tolstoy. this is quite high. evaluation of myself, i

understand, yes, everything, of course, these narcissistic swings from the other side. she writes, i'm not brilliant but i want them to consider me as such. but this is already clean, of course, in fact, we can open each page and find two polar quotes, and they will all be right. i think what else are you doing, is this a comedy tragedy title with a big nose?

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my lord and architect. i believe that in every person there are certain products of contradiction, and the fact that we note this in the diary of the bashkirs suggests that she is really honest, but treated her own work and this task. olya you studied at marina abramovic uh, you are a digital artist. if possible, say so. yes, if i may say so. uh. please tell me if there are any signs of a conceptual project in the diary of the bashkirs, when a person treats his life as material and makes himself the object of his art, if such signs. ke have this old diary, i think yes, and i think that from the moment when she returned to her diary at the age of 15 hmm wrote a preface, writing in the preface that she does not like write the foreword and, uh, started editing

it. i think she did. this is to intentionally create a certain image of yourself. and this is the first second. still. she was quite versatile in her interests, er, and in her creative endeavors. and i think she still has it. uh , of course, this is not marina abramovich. well, she did not have the opportunity to rise to such power and comprehend her own work, but women could not get an education at the end of the 19th century. that is, we see a thirst for knowledge. she reads a lot of books and knows languages. some classical texts are melting in the original, but nevertheless we understand that it is deprived of systemic education and this is felt. and despite the fact that she reads a lot. eh, well, its possibilities and tools of reflection are quite limited, because after all, this is what education gives us, and it goes in a naive way, but in an intuitive

intuitive way, but nonetheless. it seems to me that some kind of vague idea of ​​what the main object of art is. it's not even her diary. these are not her paintings, but herself. it is traced, and she gradually goes to this another thing, which is the saddest thing after all, we can never understand the story until we read it to the end, in general, peter brooks has a famous book people photoplant, and he says that we read , and the narrative is out of order, we honor it. beginning to end and in the case of bashkir e yes from end to beginning. yes, i, in the case of the bashkirs, we lose that very point of reference, where we can truly appreciate history. you do not understand that the beginning is not exactly the end. we understand that this story cut off and all that she could have become

she probably could have become many could have grown significantly in artistic power and depth, but this did not happen. i think this could happen too. maybe here is a cut short life. uh, formerly a tragic death, maybe that 's part of the image and part of her charm. is not it, there is romanticism in it. but uh, it seems to me that the years of such work, which are described in the last part of the diary, they would give them much more than a romantic aura an early death, and how do you guys generally feel about such a turn of events that she abandoned love and relationships. i want to quote on this. one moment i really liked. i below this topic falls. yes, this is it, she just entered, uh, to study,

yes, to the zhulian art school. ah. separately, this studio is julian - it was the only place where women could study women a serious place where women could study, and therefore she does not leave paris although she does not like paris well, in some of the days. eh, they got it. eh, ugly nature. they solved it. uh this moment. i thought that how you feel is very beautiful. he was still paid some pennies anyway. so he doesn't care. and so they went to the monastery. we enter. the monastery and we bring with us so much playfulness and fun that solemn peace is revealed. we go to the reception room, er, boarders, and i make sister teresa dance. she wants to recruit me and praises the monastery for me. and i also want to recruit her and i praise the world, and she tells them about how it's great to live in monasteries, and maria

is talking about the fact that the world is beautiful, but the recruitment took place only not along the line of religion, but along the line of renunciation of the world. and a bashkir naturally turns into a nun when she, uh, takes the path of art. she naturally refuses uh, love from uh, the joy of life from the brilliance from theaters from what she loves and what has surrounded her all her life. she even eventually stops dressing writes. i don't care how i look anymore. yes, she becomes. here's to this path of service. this is pure monasticism and she dies virgin. therefore, ideological recruitment, when a person is offered an idea through which it seems to him, he will be able, well, either to get closer to some desired state or to open up in this case, yes, it ’s very good, and as if they successfully offer this

idea, which becomes a vector of teleology her further movement. i do not agree with the fact that this nun recruited, of course, well done, and it seemed to me that it was his voluntary saying that the rhymes happened she was a punk of her time. i think she refuses this path precisely because it is too predictable and obvious too simply, that is, it is a choice towards something complex, that it comes from expectations. no, she goes her own way, do not look back at any expectations. well, that is, not trying to break them, not trying to fix them, she just has a different one. way i have the third version. although she lists quite a lot of loves. and all the time i had the feeling that this was falling in love, you know, like medieval kurtaz poetry, when there is a beautiful lady, when you need to love her and

to write, but at the same time a knight who writes poetry, he doesn’t even know and has never seen this beautiful lady, that is, the bottom line is this, and the bottom line is just to love, but to be in this state and renew emotionally. yes, and it seems to me that for a long time for the bashkirts, and love was not seriously interesting, it was important for her to feed, and feed to catch inspiration, but it seems to me that hmm, if she thought about the family seriously, it prevented her from working prevented her . uh, devote yourself to painting, and therefore everyone they are platonic in love, because it is very convenient for the artist, but on the other hand. and this is hmm the last months of her life. she is here, it seems to me, i believe her, she

was a little sorry that it happened that it was very stupid of me not to do the only thing worth it, the only things that give happiness, make you forget your sorrows love. yes , by love, two loving beings appear to each other as absolutely perfect physical and moral relations. especially in the moral. well, it is immediately clear that a person practices. no, it's true, but, in my opinion, it's wonderful and it's very expensive in fact, but she actually had a real love story that ended badly and having already passed it, she went into denial. let's just say because she collided. uh , subway tunnel, yes, this is the cardinal's nephew , a young man who courted for a very long time confessed his love, but uh, in order to call her to marry it is a kiss with him. she was sorry, but the kiss was with him, the kiss was a violation, let's say, of the secular rules of the aristocratic,

that is, the bashkirs self-rated it as this kiss taught her a terrible moral fall, that she allowed a man to kiss her, but because it broke her reputation, as it seemed to her, because the wedding never happened, but it didn’t happen , because the cardinal was against this marriage, and e , a young man, depended on his parents. he said, i can’t go there , i can’t do it, i can’t do it, because my parents didn’t tell me and it turned out that he was such a dependent person. and, of course, the bashkirs were disappointed with all this and the fact that he eventually refused from this. the dog she really refused too, in the sense that she did not want to accept catholicism. she wanted to remain orthodox. but, at least, i assessed the situation in this way, if she had accepted catholicism, probably this marriage would have been more real, but she was disappointed in this man, that's why there is such an emphasis on

morality in this quote. she initially understood the essence of what was happening. namely, that he simply expects guarantees from her. he tries in every possible way to get from her what she says, yes, to do. e, dare to a feat, for me. everything will be open from my side. and she does not give this guarantee, because she knows that she will be constrained by her, that if something happens later, they will remember all this and blame him for everything well. and we can talk about the bashkirs, how to describe or and how are the pioneers of a woman who declared some kind? eh, well, let's just say the prosaic beginning is already feminine in literature. or we uh can't uh call her a serious writer. i think we can call her a pioneer pioneer. that's already enough. but on this. probably we will modestly put an end to it, because if you go into details, er, and you analyze

this text from a literary point of view. well , we may not have anything left, in fact, but to give it its due as literature. you mean, well, lysia and gitsburg have it, only the term is intermediate literature, and it is very successful, because it is without a valuable member. but this is all that is not the main one. actually, there are artistic works and diaries. memoirs, they are just the same, uh, refer to this intermediate literature. i i think that the bashkirts. well, i started my diary. eh, well, how such a peculiar project and she herself says about it, that if i die without becoming famous as an artist. er, at least you'll be interested in this, er, literary document. yes, uh, initially. she has a very clear premise. ah, understandable intention. she wants to step over. e death.

she wants to last into the future even after her death. yes, he chooses art as the path exactly, to become permanent, to be afraid of oblivion, because it hmm turns out in vain was afraid. we have been something like 150 years, yes, and also because she was afraid that she didn’t believe, and she has something in the immortality of the soul, and despite that she believed in god very much, despite e. her constant appeal. here, he serves god for her like a magic wand, or just such a saying, but deep religiosity , there, of course not, at the same time, one can say that she is mystically gifted, because she anticipates her death. and uh, somehow describes her original path, how short she writes from the very beginning. i will die, early and so on. maybe so yes, maybe be, uh that everyone at this age, uh, feels uh, all teenagers. maybe they'll die soon?

yes, but often the history of average life expectancy at that time was much lower than now, so it's too early to die. well, perhaps, for that time, 25 was actually not even early. it seems to me that if she was a true religious, then, and she would not have such an obsession with glory because vanity, and from religiosity, humility is not very compatible. that's the way generally said that uh serving the arts and serving god, this may not be the same thing, of course, i, by the way, too. do you think it's the same thing i think it is? well, the forms, uh, that can even be in childhood yes, the forms, and we can say that the bashkirs - this is the emancipation of their female feminism, olga will say something about this. do you understand this? oh, she tried to write a little about feminism, she

was ridiculed for it again, here. that part of the life that she spent, let's say. e in the conventions of a patriarchal society, probably not, but when it radically breaks with it completely, what is with the scenario secular beauty? yes, that's the perfect wording. here we can already talk about something serious. yes, she paved the way for women who followed in her footsteps, well , on the one hand, for example, and liza dyakonova who probably really was one of the first real feminists in russia and to the bashkirs hmm, she had a low opinion about the competitor. they are too far apart in time to be competitors. lisa was no longer the first. yes, there is also elena uh, these are

the thirties a years, well, the peak of her literary career, she died in 1842. and here she is, by the way, uh, despite the fact that she was, mm, a completely inconspicuous figure, but at the same time she was quite popular with his reader, and was published in the library for reading essenkovsky. she spoke. uh, some hmm questions that can be called low. why don't women get access to education? why are we hmm so limited compared to a man in what we can do, that is, in the case of elena gan, it was some kind of conscious, uh, statement, probably her own example. yes by example showed that such a path is possible and it is worthy of respect, and it is possible, really cool. but in general, so, if you want to convince people of something they need or about it. you know to convince or show, so you

prove with your life with your work, at least she denotes the problem in fact in her painting. she has, uh, female figures that are either turned with their backs there, uh, in the picture there is a meeting there, uh, the boys gather in the foreground, but they talk, and in the distance the silhouette of a woman is turned away in the distance, not a woman, little girl who turned away. and this is, of course, uh, a saying about a place about a woman's place, they're a woman's fair place in uh, in current events. yes. e, however. i think the bashkirs managed to immortalize their name in one way or another. yes, we know her, we are talking about her, and she even inspires people, how the first one goes and it’s great that if she didn’t introduce the life of a russian aristocrat in europe, she actually lived in russia, then perhaps we could feminism somehow more confidently,

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