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choose from four nuggets or two strips for only 39 rubles. only in the application it’s delicious and that’s the point, we continue the podcast of the creative industry on channel one today with you elena kiper and wonderful actors. actor's family. egor beroev in general this is about the heroes in our society, which are among completely different people. uh. it seems to me very poor so far. in general, i present. by the way, this is a film that is associated with the planting of the legendary corn. this is just one of the examples when a feat was noticed and popularized. in general, little by little is growing, yes, slowly there was a wave, then now it is turning into a living hero. we also talked in person. and so on, but for some reason , for some reason, it’s all like this with us, in general, there is quite a pointy floor filled with books about heroes. i think that we
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are now at that point where we are, in theory, just realizing this. how should it be next. we simply could not understand who the hero of our time was, before we had changes in society, political , political and public, uh, civil we could not understand who the hero of the real heroes was, because there was confusion in the head and, uh, the society was very ready for compromises. now we have understood that there can be no compromises, that we must be determined, either we are at the same time or we are for something else and these heroes began to emerge. we must have begun to understand who the real heroes of our time are. e that the heroes of the time are not there not a director who is trying to pull dirt, vulgarity and humiliation onto the stage, and he does not
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become a hero, but the person who saved lives there before us becomes a hero assumed this, but we could not decide for sure, because there were a lot of people, including actors and singers known there, who gave birth just because heroes are what vulgarity is. here is depravity. this one. yes, a often had to give up trolls. uh, of course, in the script, of course, of course, and even now . i count five times more and say. he cannot afford it, because he earns and gives a family. and i have the opportunity. uh, here, but i must say that i am very pleased that now we have become leaders film distribution with this film about peace and uh, this topic is interesting this topic is interesting, sincerely interesting to people. they want to watch. they want to be happy for this hero. they want to experience. they want to cry. it's just about a person about a living person.
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moreover, about a person about his choice, about the fact that this person who lives with god and it is obvious to him that he is not a hero at all, and moreover, god was not obvious when i talked with damir, when i was still watching a documentary film, that god chose him for this role simply because he is a true believer, he is, as it were, a believer, he prays, and in every flight he is a muslim, and he says, this is not me at all. this is god, this is obvious, but not everyone would hear this, remove the landing gear. he heard a man of no faith. it is quite possible that he did not hear that he lives very modestly with him, an amazing wife, and it seems to me that people, that is, in soviet times, they filmed about such people about ordinary people. and just so bored. uh, i'm sure. well, i say. 25 times more, so i think it suits him more when you are filming somewhere, well, in the entrance or something else, when people usually well, why and what kind of film is there a detective or some kind? well , why don't you shoot there about here? well, i’m talking about something about that, well, we’re not
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filming it. we would love to film if you go to this, not to shoot the city of love. ah, the need to feel. eh, heart. here, well, with something that is in the chest with a heart, there is a soul to empathize with, and people are tired, uh, laugh after a swear word, because here, well, as if there are these humorous programs, where just here swear words are called and the hall is roaring and you feel strange. i'm not here, i 'm present now, here we were with damir, just on such a program, and this is very strange. i don’t understand what is happening for me and the people have already begun to understand this project of a gathering, and he also started as a project. uh contrary. i really like the phrase of the fazilian kander, who says, you know, uh, what do you need to eat, swim against the current, and he said wonderful what do you need to stand
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against the current? here is this position. here, as it were, which well, by the gathering it began contrary, because this, well, who needs ksenia, pulled out authors who are unpopular platonov there andreev postovsky, that is, well, how would you understand platonov who will come to platonov now platonov is still there read here, people came received great fun and really they were interested, they listened and it's not only. this is not reading. this is a story about the author about your life about a person about his love about his shock in life about his changes, just percentage things, that is, right to place accents or ksenia turns out to be such radzinsky, but only about not not about history. i call yes edwardian, but they flew by about writers. yes, i'm talking about suggesting i'm talking about the family. i'm suggesting anyway. she will take on, ksenia
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will take on the artists too. so she wants to take on artists, there she also talks about the history of a person, and she tells it as if she personally knew him, that here she is talking about gumilyov. so it seems to me, as if someone really personally knew the man very well. i just want to be loved back. that is , when people listen, they suddenly remember, they blow off the dust from these, and so they turn from the phone, and books well, books and classics. this is our most this is what we are made of - this is our cells. that is, if we remove them, then we will really be devastated, then we will and then we will not understand. why do we laugh. for some reason it's not funny. this is some kind of laughter sin, as the holy one said, and we began to fill up, because this is our dna, our poets are ours writers are our artists. we are an amazing country , great people, ordinary people lived among us , they want to tell you, they surrounded him. this is
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what an ordinary person, in fact, but there he has a gift in this, he was surrounded, that is, in the context of the country's history. and do you understand how it all works? well, how would it, how did it move, where did it go? and how urgently it needs to be returned. well, it’s as if it’s easy to return at least one’s attitude to this to school everywhere to return love for these these names, so that we fill it, so that we understand what we are, so that we are not, like empty air balloons, where the blow will fly there, but you know what an interesting feeling arises. here, hmm, one story in 2007, in my opinion, a very large one goes, in which i then worked, decided to release book collections, as collections were done abroad and, uh, the question was what would be the first collection, in general, what hmm and editor-in-chief ceo he it will be uh , a collection of classics all these classics, so everyone's shelves are full. look at the trash cans, they take out entire
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collections, in general, young people come out of these cabinets. no one will produce a collection of nature, it will be released in millions of copies. as a result, it is understood by millions. so, about the feeling that there is an e world. here is this uh, glossy conditionally, yes, which, and there is some of our people with this world time code, damn it. here we recently watched, they sent us all the video series, where the uh transmission of the field of miracles. our outstanding actors of those nineties are participating, which means nikulin herbert it blew, and there, well, the very best there in general yuri nikulin i don’t speak, and they are spinning this drum. and then we somehow perceived everything before our eyes, now you look, lord, why they taught us what
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they laid in us when alexander abdulov alexander gavrilovich and the lucky winner of the field of miracles rejoices all over the country that he won a vacuum cleaner, but he was a gambler so he happily won. and this is the kind of materialism that was instilled in us back then, that is, these are other values. here is the soviet man, there will never be rejoice at the vacuum cleaner, but here it is, here it is, here i am, these nineties, when it became, for some reason, it suddenly became popular and valuable that the vacuum cleaner used to be somehow. well , well, well, anyway. well, it's kind of gradual. that's how it is somehow here in us it's all this here fit. and, of course , naturally, when we would come now , values change, naturally change when we began to understand that there are returning. yes, there are more important things, and
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moreover, those things that are even in the same hollywood films, but have always been this and mutual assistance of the victim. love for us and honesty and truth, it was all the same. it was invested, as if in what has always been in us and at the same time. naturally. the main thing is that what we stand for is a classic, our classic is what this tuning fork gives us, because after all, there is only one truth in the world. we continue our creative industry podcast at the roman karmanov studio with a wonderful acting family, egor beroev and ksenia alferova, and here we are, returning to the beginning about the heroes of our time. here too suddenly, for some reason, and the people began to confuse the people , it seemed to some, some parts of hmm are very insignificant, that they pull out
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the intimate details of life, but the big outstanding composers of bards. it's okay. that is, here is a person who takes on this, he, as it were, is a talented person. this is, as it were, this is a progressive, this is a creative creative person. well, in a bad sense of the word, because creative is still in my opinion. this creation does not arise for me. about this word. but thank god here for example, a director made a film about a famous composer, well, a recent story is a fairly recent story, but it’s disgusting and i even talked in one place there with my friends, and they tried to convince me that they want to know when they listen to the music of this great composer. they want to know who he slept with
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so guys. well, what, and what about the guys? no for 60, for example, guys, are you already born? no? turn around in the soviet union we are me i am with you, as if the same, in principle, brought up, but no matter how, how it is not ours stories, we can't think about it, we can't watch. here is what was in all these magazines and newspapers. it's terrible when we saw there, uh, amazing actress. well, mordyuko is there under a dropper, when they climbed in , they took pictures on the cover. this is impossible. this is not ours. we cannot do this. soviet people should not do this russians, yes, russian russians russians are a zone of shame. well, as if intimacy privacy. it is very important. and by the way, if i just read a lot, you know, in the last 7 years, because the gathering principle i take reading everything that is about this or that writer's poet, then i tell what i consider it important
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to tell and from everyone. from pushkin this is my first very uh, all this is the word. i suddenly began to meet the word liberal exclusively in a negative context of the eighteenth nineteenth at the beginning of the 20th century, and that's all our white migration is the so-called, well, the outstanding part, belarus is negative. yes, i mean, they all talk about why the west is so alien to them, that's exactly how they are. unfortunately, they said that very much commercialized that in other words it was said. and that this is not at all ours, that no one reads poetry there, no one needs it. uh, no one needs a poet, writers. no one needs to proclaim what we want to see in the new time from creative results from creative results. uh, big personalities, which is how to preserve our uh, the true values and traditions of our country, so that we do not fall apart, so that our originality does not disappear, of course, this is
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education. that is, we have an amazing country of 190 nationalities, we multi-religious powers. and we have a lot of our primordial values and traditions. why do we take strangers, and moreover, we have wonderful people there, and even a large, large part, and muslims, too, why, for example , muslims do not allow themselves to use swear words there in their speech. why do we use it? well, it's like a separate issue. so much as we see education. this is very important. this is also a separate issue, but to people. uh, that is, people with insufficient education. that is, i would not allow exactly did not give, neither grants, nor money, and would not allow filming to understand some outstanding people, including, or if you do not like, this poet exists. well books too, when there are biographies written by those who don't like it. this is impossible to read. you don’t really understand why you took it on at all
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, it’s really important and the knee moment is also important here, because we are just 40 plus we have a very good base. then she began to destroy, they began to destroy her, but as you know, times do not choose. yes, but nevertheless the final good. need to do final question final question to the final final. eh, after all, times do not choose. we live in a time in which we came across and many have a discussion. in general, it goes both externally and internally, people sort it out with themselves, is it a good or bad time. here is the current one according to your assessment. you and i, at a good moment in history, got perfectly or into a bad beautiful very good very interesting bright. yes, when something really depends on each person. it always depends, but now you're really just changing something very important things inside. after all,
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it starts with you. well, that is, what are you, e aggression and getting angry at someone and hating, this is one story. yes, if we all fill up like this, but this leads to the destruction of the country, or we create something inside ourselves in the family a little further a little further at our small workplace . everyone can do a lot for the country, you know, this is an amazing feeling when you understand that here and now everything depends on you personally. that's all from how you raise a child, what you give him you invest or you don't invest, that's how to say the responsibility of taking yourself off no one will succeed every chance? we have such a chance, yes, it's true , we have a chance, - said yegor the hero put a bullet, finally, on our air, ksenia alferova, the ambassador of russian culture, you can say so, yes, elena and the actors are envoys, yes, fortunately that
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we are here with you, friends , let's finish the creative industry podcast today. elena kippernov was with you on channel one, dear friends. all issues creative industry podcast. you can always look at the site of the first channel one tv point ru hello you are a must- read podcast. i am batnikova's main director and writer. today we are discussing the diary of maria bashkirtseva with my wonderful guests, olga breininger, writer, literary anthropologist, translator and vladislav gorodets writer, architect, diary of maria bashkirtseva. this is a well-known work. uh, a girl from 12 to 24 kept
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a diary, so to speak, from adolescence age before death. and this is the end of the 19th century. uh, europe uh, an aristocratic russian daughter of a wealthy landowner, who, uh, studies and spends time in europe, lives a stormy and social life. but what is interesting to us in this diary and in this document, why is he included in the corpus of women's autofectional prose, let's call it that , in fact, whether he is included or not. it's still a big question, because uh, after all, in form. uh, this is a diary entry diary. uh, how does it differ from all previous diaries in that it e was originally written for an outside observer for the reader. that is, he is not written for himself, but for others and the bashkirs - this is
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repeatedly emphasized. and what are the elements of e autofix e? because the bashkirtseva considers herself a heroine. she speaks directly about this and describing herself, as if from the outside, she introduces herself into this text, as a heroine, as a character, and often abstracts into e, emphasizing that the author of these lines, of course, understands everything. but the heroine, there was a silly thing like that, that is, she has an element of the game is actually present from the beginning. well , not that games, but some kind of appeal to the public appeal to the public. yes she says that i intend to take a photograph of my life, and set myself the task of being as honest and frank as possible. that is, it is a self-portrait. eh, and the authenticity of this self-portrait is, perhaps, even some kind of ugliness. this
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is the condition of the game that the bashkirs set for themselves, but we can say so, we can say so, but if we take into account this is above the author himself, then we need to admit that this not an autofish, but an autobiography, because autofiction is always a deliberate mixture of truth and fiction, and since bashkirsky declares that she will show herself as she is, uh, in an unsightly ugly in any situation, without trying to embellish herself, then in in general, if you follow one of the main definitions, autofiction text should not be referential, then it turns out that the bashkirts is not m-m not autofiction. disagree. it can be perceived as this declaration of absolute truth, yes to the last word, as also an element autofictional narrative. she could be. e, also part of e, and the plot is part of telling. yes, i'm telling the truth, but
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in fact, you never know, he says, we have no way to check. yes we have. biography is such a frame, yes, in which we operate. uh, and even this text. uh, we're from the start. we can doubt its absolutely documentary. at least, because we, uh, do not get the exact dates of the birth of the heroine, uh, the date of birth of the sixties indicated in the first publications. uh sixtieth the year was not exactly the date. e bashkirs was born in the fifty-eighth year, because, and the mother after the death of her daughter. here mother was engaged in the publication of a diary. she wanted, yes, and she's reduced. uh, life for a few years, so that fate would be even more tragic in two years hits at seven hits at 27 - this is who kurt cobain's jacket is pasha kura and the sketch, well, in general, she ends up in
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excellent company. speaking, but here's what confuses me. uh, when she starts her diary, she's 11 or 12, she's still pretty transparent and then at the age of 15-16. she comes back and makes some edits herself and uh, then the idea comes to her that u diary - this is her opportunity, and to show the life of one woman. and this is her opportunity to become famous, that is. eh, if you look at her trio of the hero arc, then she has changed quite a lot. that's from 15 to twenty-five, and in the beginning she was driven by the desire for fame. what will you write about, and she writes many times all the time. i want fame, i dream of being famous. this, by the way, is related to a piece of the cabin. it is said that he also wrote that he wanted to be famous since she was a teenager, and she tries all kinds of
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art. that is, she draws and sings. e, writes and it seems to me that at the initial stage she does not drag herself, she is still looking for that path, a short path to glory yes, she remains an artist, but still it seems to me that we know her first of all, it is from her diary. well, probably about the artistic value of her paintings. i have to ask you, i want to talk about something. olya, i think you are the best autofiction specialist in russia today. you have a lecture about mary of the bashkirs. tell us how you imagine her literary work, in some general context of this auto-actional prose. well, here you need to make a small clarification that the lecture about maria bashkirtseva is not included in the auto-phishing course. and i have a course on the literature of the xix century, the purpose of which was. well, to shake the canons a little to show that we have conditionally, not only pushkin lermontov tolstoy dostoevsky
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, but also other women authors, yes, women and lectures. all major male writers were accompanied by short lectures by women. that is, i spoke. look, we have conditionally a-a. turgenev chernyshevsky we also have bashkirts eliza dyakonova but these are slightly different time periods, but such was after bashkir and she is even mentioned in her diary. yes, by the way, i am on the side of liza deacon in many ways. well, maria of the bashkirs was the first. she doesn’t, of course, yes. what about the artistic work of the bashkir vlad and the architect did you study? e tell me how you evaluate this jerk. e bashkirtsev to glory through painting, because their last years last 6 years. she throws herself into social life. she stops hanging out and, uh, starts working hard from morning to night
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, literally counting the hours she has on her way to the studio. they move closer to the studio, so as not to spend 2 hours a day, because it's 48 days a year and it means that she is rapidly mastering the path from a student to a leader. e picturesque salons on a par with the pool or the page and other artists , it must be said that i am not an art critic. but if you trust the art they know they report that it is impossible to talk about the real artistic heritage of the bashkirs. hmm, because she left too early. her life was first. she's too early, as critics say. uh, a real breakthrough departure from academism. she had in the last 2 years. eh, and, that is, she went to the peaks on the ascending line and it is not known how high this line would go, but she left. just starting to open up. here in their latest work. and here olya, uh, mentioned this and i would like
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to develop the idea. eh, it seems to me that a and a diary. uh, bashkirskaya and her painting. yes, they initially proceeded from the intention to become famous. yes, become , uh, popular famous. she even writes at the age of 15 to such an often beloved and vain person as i need to become attached to a living one with me, because this is a very, uh, lively inexhaustible activity. i will therefore neither be a philosopher nor a chemist. i can only be a singer and an artist. this is already a lot. and then i want to be popular. this is the main, generally pragmatic choice, but uh, choosing the path of painting the bashkirs think it is. the path to glory, uh, but this choice completely transforms her, and this can be seen from the diaries, because how much the personality changes. she goes from m-m immature infantile whimsical. e ladies into a real sacrificial person who is really ready for the sake of art. uh, give up everything that
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was dear to him before. and that is. eh, no matter how the antennae, but the bashkirs really embark on the path of the artist, eh, but eh. well, you can as a person who has learned. eh, art, yes fine, but appreciate its breakthrough. you understand that this is unrealistic. on this level of painting her paintings hang in the russian museum her paintings hang in the musee dorce in paris that is, it is really a high level, the highest of some kind, maybe, and she passed it very quickly. you understand it. you understand? this is some kind of work behind this, of course, i understand. but uh , it seems to me that this is a debatable question, but i'll express my opinion that it is fair to call an artist important or accomplished. if he set some direction, he had some influence on the leaders. uh, well not necessarily the innovators in general, uh, an artist is considered important if he has changed the cultural landscape, if uh
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, some of his ideas have sprouted into the future, so uh, well, it is important to note that the ideas of bashkirism are uh, some finds in painting. yes, they did not find a proposal, there are no people who would confirm her influence on their art , unlike literature alone, well, in the diary , her influence is obvious, and many authors of the silver age were passionate. you can even say, to some extent , tsvetaeva is in love with all this. bryusov khlebnikov it would seem that completely different aesthetics, but nevertheless white, and i agree with vlad that this book begins as a diary of a young girl seeking popularity, through appearance, no, through art. eh, a little more difficult, but when
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she stops at painting, and when she becomes real, and uncompromisingly and cruelly to herself in and it seems to me that the artist begins when he is ready to be cruel to himself. that's when this story, which i am personally interested in and change enchants the natural line with her in love. and it seems to me that, uh, when an artist devotes himself to everything, that is puts himself on the altar of his work, it cannot but cause. here is some profound change. and be it art literature. visual i don’t know what she didn’t choose, but the fact itself, but such work, ah, he produces and in any case, yes, and he commands respect, but i can say that really one of the features of this diary is that it begins quite predictably for an aristocratic milieu, yes
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for a girl who is very rich, very beautiful and, shall we say, artistically, yes, and we expect, of course, uh, after describing all fans of bols and similar outfits. of course, we are waiting for her to marry some nephew of an italian cardinal, yes, or hmm that she will spin some kind of there, i don’t know, crazy romance or well, in general, she will do something, maybe through appearance yes, related to her beauty and ability to dress. in fact, it is very sad that we expect this, but our stereotypes are absolutely torn at some point and we understand that this is a serious person. before us is a serious man. she chooses a not to marry. one can say to refuse the female path completely and works like a beast in order to be perceived as a person, that is
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, she writes in this that if my picture gets into the salon, i will be perceived as a person for her. it is very important that she evokes with her work. yes, not by her appearance e, not by her parents' money, but by her work and the fact that she chooses this path, of course , suddenly turns out to be unexpected, just like her tragic death earlier, her demands on herself grow, because at some point, when her painting ends up in the salon. she says, or rather, writes about the fact that uh hmm in the salon uh, exposes this daub. and if this fuss is real art, then this is not the biggest compliment for me. now with the level of self-criticism of reflection, compared with the girl we saw on the first pages. eh, completely different. and it seems to me that this is self-criticism, it has roots in its narcissistic character. she is by nature a narcissistic person by nature , and this can even be seen in the way she
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relates e to her own appearance. here's how she is thrown from side to side, uh, then she delights in herself and says how wonderful she is and that everyone should bow. uh, right there, and on the next page she can say that there is nothing special about me and there by the standards of soviet women, and i am of no interest to these people. i'm not dissembling anything, and i remember such a moment, and she describes how she came to russia because she lives on her father's money in paris in rome in nice. well, sometimes they go to russia in the village. poltava and she some moment comes, of course, a sensation in this chatter. so they make some kind of visits, and she herself mentions that someone tells her that they saw the daughter of the bashkirs, a wonderful beauty, and she summarizes. these people haven’t seen anything in their lives, or here she writes at the age of 16, if
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i’m as good with myself as i say, from what they don’t like me, they look at me , they fall in love, but they don’t love me, who needs me so much in love. well, that is, uh, and her assessment, but her own literary works. she too, uh, often criticizes himself. e, they say that the description of some primitive e everyday things. i spent such pompous high words, they are proportionate. why does she have such an uneven attitude towards herself, then criticism, then love about that. on uh yes , emotional swings, because uh sometimes she says yes. do you think that i, uh, spied on someone? no, this is my own thought. or there, she revels in some of her beautiful ones. and sometimes she says, oh, i can't describe it. it's better for you for such details to zulya or there to the balzac, yes go, uh, or there, uh, it is
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impossible to describe, in order to feel it you need to be me, that is, she signs for her failure. as a writer , too, but on the other hand there is a wonderful moment. e in the finale, which i really like, and she reads an essay to tolstoy and in dimont and says that i rejoice in her soul and at the same time, she scolds herself for being a foreigner, she lives in france and does not leave for russia but why doesn't she do it? yes , why, because it can only learn in paris keeps her alive and she writes. i also work for the glory of my motherland, if i eventually develop such a talent of some kind of tolstoy. this is quite high. evaluation of myself, i understand, yes, everything, of course, these narcissistic swings from the other side. she writes, i'm not brilliant but i want them to consider me as such. now this is pure autofic. puppy,
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