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and he tells her, my sweet girl has no grandchildren, yet larochka yes oh, my god, as drawn. oh, it hurts the holiday, until it appeared. zhuzha is a holiday of fun, right? friends of vladimir romanovich legoids for some time now are members of the fan club beyond their desire, alabai, atos alabai - this is generally a special breed, because we had the first dog alabai. it is absolutely huge with its thoughts and it is very seriously sensible, just like a german shepherd. she runs to carry out the command, so i need it later as the owner of the eldest daughter in the family. not at all not not there is the owner, but there is the head of the project. what is the head of the pride in terms of work the eldest daughter. liza is the host, head
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of government. and i'm afraid. do you know why april 1st? here is this tradition of playing pranks and jolly? yes all peace april fool's day. and then this holiday was transformed in general, and this has slavic roots. very seriously. this is a holiday. yes, pagans the point is that he told well, briefly, ah, it was believed that this week earlier, the new year was celebrated. that is, this one here saw off the year it's like it was spring, that is, they walked for a whole week and all these ended, and veseluks on april 1, when uh, spring had already fully come into its own , and uh, among the slavs. that is, the pagans had, that is, there was a belief that until this date the brownie was sleeping. that is, since in every house in e, he was coaxed. yes, different milk there, that is, he, so as not to be angry that they woke him up, that is , all this should have been fun. and uh, these are the jokes
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there on each other there are some kind of jokes. that is, he must have been a brownie not to understand that in in general, what is he, he has already woken up, so that he immediately plunges into the atmosphere. that's the way i understand it, also sweetened. yes, we want to make channel one's smoke, yes , channel one's birthday party, and we've been coaxed here, by the way, that's all, but it wasn't. well, denis pies, we have a toast, denis toasts, yes, but in fact , it’s really a great joy that on the first channel recently, they began to talk about sports, and he, well, really fills our life with completely different emotions, both need to say, yes, and to inform hockey is something that we have always been proud of and will be proud of, and now this is such a peculiar situation for the development of the game, and we are talking about this at night with respected people.
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it was great to come to us and larionov said, we reasoned about it, that now, if he got to our table, it would be very difficult for him to eat something, in fact, larionov’s signal, uh. yes, you know, yes, and he put it into practice in his hockey team, which from nizhny novgorod went very high this season, because proper nutrition. this pledge is really very good productive. well, i didn’t mean that , i wanted to say that it’s very important for all of us. it seems to me to save my nerves and would like a drink. you know how an athlete always says to be without injuries. here, so that we do not have psychological mental and all sorts of steel on april 1, so that if we were played we would accept it with dignity. and if we acted out so that they would not be offended by talking about the first channel, i think it is important that the first channel never ceases to amaze. and, and let's say those people, well, not everyone is watching. now even the first channel, yes, and when people say, well, let's praise our podcasts , what, but we began to watch? first channel. yes? it's great. yes, why are so many
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surprised, as it is now customary to say in the good sense of the word? it's great. it's great, because as you already channel aged. yes, probably not so easy to surprise there, it is. i do not just keep the brand. you know, as they say about the players, the team won in the class. yes. it means everything. the team is all right, but when it knows how to surprise, this is a sign of youth, you understand, because to call, for example, vladimir ivanovich alexei aglaev on television, knowing that the audience wants entertainment and spectacles and call you with your smart topics. you know, experiment. this, of course, is insolence and manipulated. yes, i am afraid of this word in the best sense of this value. in general, let's drink to those who do not sleep at night, and sleep on my table with benefit, he watches podcasts and he can't tear himself away from screen, because he understands that this
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is real life. let's drink. thank you. thank you. how lucky you are. so happy near the tv, she looks under the household boiler. here she looks. here she is well. that's the way it is. it's a magical voice, please sit down. thank you hello, thank you very much. and what’s immediately so good about us, by the way, is the birthday of the first channel. we've gathered here , uh, and we're finally seeing firsthand those who have been doing podcasts here, here, on the podcast for 3 months, by the way, yes, that's why this small anniversary humor. yes and the money of humor and laughter. well, where have you been for so long? hmm i tidied up to you through all truths and lies, the truth won. i'm here and let's have a good toast, yes, let's be for the truth, really , yes, the first channel, which is still the first
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, is still relevant thanks to our permanent, leader, has worked in the media all his life. i know that over the past 20 years , it has become harder and harder for the media to find an audience already on the go under the honey. here are bloggers on the go tearing soles of people who can just show in public and evoke emotions in them. and, of course, one must now have great courage and great determination in order to do something new in such a department as television. i want to drink to the leadership of channel one, which allowed such a format as podcasts to appear and give us all the opportunity to be here on this stage to come to people who never dreamed of being here. so give us the opportunity, among other things , to talk somehow, and now we see that you are these sincere conversations. they generate the most interest. that's why for those who accepted. this decision, in general, television is
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such a big hoax. when i got on the russian roulette program, we came from the kvn team, that is. well, bsu to act in his program means, well, on tv it's all sound. there is filled with all these brilliant seems to be metal aggregates. i think, lord, what is there, judging now. i'm freaking out. well, and, in short, we are instructed to come. when you fall, please crouch so that your head is not visible. and there, it turns out it’s just that it’s all very low such scaffolding and you fall down below. usually these mats are school and gym mats. there are such and you fail and really. if you don’t sit down, then you’ll hang around like this, and in this here is magical power. this is television, like in our science fiction, too, there i, konstantin lvovich , came up with the idea that i should fall off platforms and fly to nowhere. and there i always fell somewhere, that is, well, accordingly, it all needs to be filmed, as if well, as if i thought that i would fall, as if, and he says, no, it will it is seen. here in this
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time it is necessary not to lie, it seems, how to really fall. i'm a whole shift in different costumes. i just fell from a great height. i'm afraid of heights it's up there, well a lot of places are very high up. sasha did not get everything, that is, yes, and moreover, long ahead. i fall like this. i really just really fall and, uh, they invited a large team, the best stunt guys there were even from belarus, that's the first idea. i just had a bunch of dust in there and i think that's just the first one. and i have a shift ahead of me. it's 10 o'clock here and not in vadik, how are you? i speak, something is a bit quiet for me, but it feels like my organs have come off, switched places, and they say, they say, maybe you 'll just fall on the box, like stuntmen. i say, but where did i fall? he says that you should be softer, the mat was released. i mean, i fell. well, well, such a thing. yes, i also remember channel one. i ran the program. good morning. we had a 3 hour program and the first part was six to seven. he
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was the most killed. and that's where all the boring guests dumped and sit with some. no, just no. no, we did all sorts of foolish things there. i learned to breathe there. uh, what a swimming champion they put a basin on the floor with. i dipped my face into it. and i would breathe it out there, and and my co-host would ask the champion if he was doing it right. well, i’ll still work more experts harder, exhale and the first channel we add all this stupidity and foolishness while everyone is sleeping, including the conservative lion cub, well , who sometimes still drove somewhere by car early in the morning to the airport caught this first hour . and then konstantin stuck a little bit in us the layer of history was about practical jokes, but did anyone ever make you, well, seriously believe in some kind of nonsense, specifically with regards to, there is a short background on april 1 this man, who was the first to play pranks on people on the air of the first in this
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country left on the radio in the morning. yes, they are calling. this is another maxim zhavoronka. i remember, i was your fan. another class of all time. thanks a lot. we even had a cassette released by zhavoronki best about these draws, and it’s an amazing thing on gorbushka, according to the sales results for the year, it won all the music, that is, we are chic chic this is about 90, the fifth , sixth year, but then i was the person who played pranks on the phone. i myself am very easily led to everything, otherwise you will not be able to play others. this is how it works. quite, perhaps, i'm serious about something now konstantin thinks that the program is being filmed. and left is sitting at the moment, when my friend and i were in egypt, we tried to surf there at the school, which were led by italian girls, very
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beautiful. well, how to do it? i, i got up and take pictures like that, take pictures of me, take pictures and all. these italian girls were not very beautiful, but i stopped wanting to disgrace myself. and i finished my studies completely on this, but a friend calls me and says, listen, you remember these italians. they arrived in moscow, they need to be arranged somewhere. i do not know how i am now organizing the hotel for them in the evening. they want to see us, and i began to think about how to attach them somewhere. and what a lie, where i will spend tonight. here are these very good feelings of two, and he says, and i played you, ah, laughter, here. e, me it seems that men, well, some villains influenced and somehow they were inspired that women should tell jokes. it seems to me that it should be terrible, by the way, told, but
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there is such a genre, when well , a woman amuses, just a certain set of these memorized anecdotes. it's just awful and it seems to me that we need to somehow, well, just fight. there are jokes. would you like to tell two friends meet? long time no see. he says well one looks good and the other one. well, this is so incomprehensible. he says. and you what do you do? he says, and i - says - money. he says, yes, some serious one did not think. you somehow didn’t give in to such special hopes there. and how well, what is your business. he says i sell money. i'm here, well, the ruble i sell for 70 kopecks. says what are you, profit? he says i profit until i read it, contrary and furious. but orthodox humor is a creature, of course , a favorite anecdote, which, as one of my friends said, changed my life, well, as they used to say, a new russian dies, and he naturally approaches, uh, to the apostle to the gates.
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paradise, he says, you do not have in the list how not. well, take a better look. yes no. he says come on. i restored such a temple , i restored such a temple, well, i’m young to restore it. yes, i spent so much money on the church. she says the money is a little back. it is here, i heard you remembered a joke , there is a queue in paradise for ambrosia. well, such souls in white chitons, everyone is talking slowly, but in the sense of life, but in the essence of being, and suddenly such a soul appears and says, let me. just let me go faster faster please. let the trucks go. all the same , pushing through, drinking a glass and the line disappears, the whole line is restored again, slowly talking with a paradise of brosia, again sharply let it go, please, let it go, let it go behind one soul. where are you hurrying each ahead of eternity. this is your eternity. and i’m in intensive care. yes, it’s good, two monks come to the river, a woman stands, one monk takes the woman in her arms, carries her, because she cannot cross, and therefore puts them and they go on and the second monk begins to resent. and here's how you could. here you touched with women. we gave this
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ta-ta-ta. here they listen to him. listen, listen, i moved the set and forgot from it, you still carry it. yes, this is great, well , someone will say that this is a joke. this is the reason is filled with deep meaning is, yes or there uh, the notorious english humor, yes how to get it? such a lawn elementary sir , bushes grow in you, you cut them to do. this is every day in 300 years you will have the same approximately there, not a lawn or this something bushes, this is not a lawn. well, in general, i forgot , yes, yes, this is also some kind of meaningful history is not easy. ha ha ha, yes, how funny the jokes are. it seems to me that they even form behavioral patterns, that is, they form what they form. i think it still reflects existing at the very end of the e podcast. we came up with such a thing called we cook a hit, we all together, especially since here lena who made so many beautiful texts, and we come up with. well, if not a song,
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then at least a chorus, which can later become a hit, therefore. now, right in real time, i propose to write a text. chorus the first line, no head nodding to your enemies, drinking heads to your enemies the strength is kept for friends. only protest, if you want, i'll give my heart well together, we'll pass faster here is such a saying, if you need to explain. the power was kept for friends. if you want, i will give my heart together. we will pass the way faster , let's not forget that the first channel has a birthday. let's wish something to the first channel i want to wish, of course, konstantin lvovich to continue to surf in the first channel - this is
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the universe is not ready to blow up the brain of the viewer, which i am sure will catch up with all the new technologies that are now really being tested before our eyes. and you know for sure that a lot of what was right on your knees was not, how it all developed in this show the first season. we were witnesses, for which i am simply insanely grateful, too, that i witnessed all this and the participants. that's it, of course. i want to admit only forward and with a challenge and in general, one fantasy, in general, all this is fantasy. when i finished the festival, i defended my dissertation and left. this were 90 left to work. there, first in a trading house, then in a bank, my mother did not talk to me for a year. she says you traded an elite education for a dissertation for some hucksters. well, all relationships. so she says, i don’t understand what you do with some money stock exchange and markets and so on. and that's 2 weeks ago. she watched the podcast. it was half past midnight. she called me and said, misha, i'm proud of you, and i
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just cried, really, mom, thank you very much for these words. i am very grateful to channel one i don’t know reconciliation, that my mother finally understood what i was doing and that’s it. this is thanks to these people who come to visit and the channels that organize all this for the first channel. i am 30 years old. i do the devil, what dad condemns. he says, son, you 're doing shit on the radio, and well, mom, sometimes they listened, which is always an unpleasant surprise for me, because you can't joke hard, right? yes, but now both mom and dad are amazing, watching a podcast, paws on channel one and moreover, uh, all in one voice, that some countries also say i want to wish good things correctly to all of us , you know, i want understanding, not everything can be understood, not everyone. i want to wish us acceptance. let's love each other and accept each other as we are, because each of you is such a treasure, and i 'm very happy that today we showed up so much time with you, it's such
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a pleasure and to persuade each other's eyes straight, removing everything that it annoys us, doesn’t like it, leaves here a jewel that each of us has , this is the same thank you all, therefore huge. thank you all involved. many thanks to channel one. most. main. thanks to the audience of channel one for being so zealous with such pleasure you perceive everything new that channel one brings into our lives. i would also like to add that thank you very much. i not only don’t know about channel one for what it does, it seems to me that it’s just the fate of people passing by and well, from that side and from that side, both viewers and people who work on channel one, and it seems to me that this is such a close relationship that it's just, well, the strongest is at the first channel. thank you very much happy birthday. i have a feeling that i am in some kind of 7d universe where every a of you. well
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, it responds to me very strongly and i feel it. i am very grateful to the first channel for the fact that i got to know you better today. oh, you are wonderful. thank you very much for the attention podcasts yes, yes, please, yes immediately sounded in the evening. yes, you can upload very well? well channel one happy birthday kids and everyone on the first of april you lose a good mood. let everything be good for everyone and , uh, bright and cake. everyone thought that in the end nikolay ciscarids would jump out here, the station, vietnam come on, let's see, this is not the end of the driver together. happy birthday to you. happy birthday to you happy birthday. first channel happy birthday to you.
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this is for kostrigera and with you again today we are sergei on ourselves and tatyana krasnovskaya, psychology and psychotherapists. hello and today in our studio marina tell us what you came to us with, i got this request literally recently, i realized that i am not aware of my femininity. what is it about? well, about the fact that i am a manager and i have such a more masculine temperament and, as it were, my position, as it were, obliges me to keep myself, so lately i have been trying to consider a woman in myself, yes, only a woman who i will like how i should be there. and that's what literally recently, i hmm realized that i'm chasing, for
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some kind of some kind of pattern of this femininity, a generally accepted pattern. it must be some vanilla femininity there, yes, there is a vanilla woman, there mimimi there, i don’t know, i hate it. i realized that this is not about me, but i'm chasing this, but it's not about me at all, and well, it's just one little man literally there a few days ago , a girl told me, she says, i like your femininity so much. she is special for you, she is different for you, and i realized that i mean her, i don’t see her. well, that is, i don’t understand what kind of mine it is and i’m chasing some kind of template. that's for just such that i want to consider it. and apparently i do not accept it, as far as i again, i realized to myself, if for some reason i drive others for this vanilla according to your control, as a result of the fact that your masculine character warehouse or still you have a masculine character warehouse, because you are management. good question. i think one
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follows from the other. i have been on my own since childhood. since childhood, i have not been involved, almost my parents. that is, i have always been left to my own devices, even somewhere right from childhood, they delegate some duties to me that, in principle, do not suit a child. well, yes, well, that is on that moment is uh, so i think it's probably the one i've always been responsible for. i had to be responsible. i have always been the eldest, as it were, well, accordingly, in the course of i manage. then, as it were, the logic builds up a little differently, because you started with the fact that i am a manager, and therefore i have a masculine character. now it's turning around a bit. and as a result , it is being revised, because, well, we need, of course, to detect some determinism, uh, elements of the psyche. a these are the ministerial events of your past. yes , so that we can put it this way, where did it all begin to communicate, and you have younger brothers, sisters, younger brother,
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8 years younger. yes, for eight years i am now 42. 8 years old, in fact, i grew up alone with my parents. yes, that’s how this gap is, what do you remember about it now i vaguely remember, i practically don’t remember, and this period there are some such small outbreaks there is some kind of new year there, i don’t know, some went to visit. well, here's something like that, i just remember what i remember how again, when i started to remember better, when my brother appeared. i abruptly became an older older adult. that's it, i've been here for 8 years. i was already an adult. yes, i don't remember. no, not like that, come on, here we are going to visit. i'm mom dad. yes, how old are you at this moment, whom did you go to visit, what is happening right in the present tense. write friends of my parents, very good friends. there was
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a certain company there, there were just three or four families, i don’t remember exactly, and we constantly, if we gathered. for some holidays, events, especially the new year. for some reason, i remember exactly the new year, then it was just me, but these families. we were children, i was, well, a girl and another boy, who is older than me, everything that i remember myself is sitting at the table at the table. they somehow communicate on their own topics there, who are in the same room, who are in the kitchen, then they smoke something else there. i feel somehow in my own kind of merka why? well, i want to say some kind of my own mirok. that is, i do not belong to them. i myself play relaxed. but in principle, somehow here, but how would they described. here is marina with us, she is what an independent. this is the marina you will always take there. yes hmm well i mean, marina isn't going anywhere, you bet nothing happened to her. it looked like some
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form of indifference towards you. yes, i still have a feeling, that is, that, well, as if unloved, probably, yes, they didn’t give a scam to this. or somehow i don’t know, like a girl. yes, i always have the feeling that i was. and even as a child i always played with toys, but i don’t know there, an automatic pistol, the ball was something like that, that is. well, here's the boy. it seems to me that it was your choice , or is it the way you were brought up. this is most likely not my choice. it seems to me and what do you think, why would you choose to be a boy is the first phrase that comes to mind? did the pope want a boy? did the father want a son? yes, well, somehow here in some conversations. i heard it so not that directly he told me that, well, no, i first wanted a boy, i don’t remember this. yes, but in some e, what dad really wanted boy. if i now ask you to imagine such a picture, imagine
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a separate department. a woman in labor is lying, this is your mother, and now she is giving birth and you are born. here you see a little girl. what feelings do these events evoke in you? this picture is a picture, but i see, mom, here is a picture, as if here i am in my mother's arms looking at her and what do you feel? so you were born with a girl in your arms? perhaps they did not know who would be born then they still could not put about before the birth. this is a surprise for them. i'm glad. a dad dad is not around. well, when he sees you, what are the feelings of his fantasies, you are also glad to him, well, as if smiling, i would be a daughter, in principle, everything, yes, well, that's what
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i see when dad came, when dad is around. dad is also happy, well, just at some point, for some reason, you decided marina that you need to be a boy, that in order for dad to be around you need to be a boy, the child is generally, in principle, oh, he’s sexy, he’s not aware of his for a very long time he does not understand the sex. what is the difference between boys and girls, that is, it's only adults towards him. yes, there girls are dressed in pink, boys are dressed in blue, but the child does not have a sexual gender. in fact, when you asked me about who, there, who decided to become a t-shirt, that is, is it yours or is it not yours? yes, here i am back, as it were, yes, and there is no such thing. well, who is a boy or a girl? just like i want to say that i'm a favorite child. well, in the sense, yes, the child came out. so far , without complete in this sense, there i am, yes i am of my
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decision. no, i don't see it there. i have, well then marina grows, and at some point marina still, as it were, is confronted with the information that she is marina marina is not misha and marina needs to choose somehow . at this moment, marina chooses toys for boys. i will assume that at this moment your own rejection of the fact that you are a woman a girl at that time occurred, if so, what could cause this rejection of the female essence. so interesting, now such a picture appeared in my head and such a phrase yes, dad wanted a boy. mom wants to say that mom cold, that is. well, the relationship with your mother is cool, but you feel more like dad. i want dad to feel good, probably accepts
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more. that's probably, yes, well, because in this way he will understand more, as if more understandable, as it were. well, yes, and that's why it's vanilla , it's not clear to dad how to deal with it, as if there was this feeling at all, how dad loved mom. dad was soft. dad was kind, dad was attentive, dad did things that i still remember there, but such moments and m-m. which? well, let's say there any holiday. well, what a holiday. we still have time, he woke up very early and ran for flowers. and well, roughly speaking, we woke up with flowers. here it is around the face. well, that is here. well, i don't know, for me it's a bright holiday on march 8th. it wasn't just him on march 8th. these are birthdays. it's some kind of holidays there mmm. well, he often tried hard. well, just like that,
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as if i do not remember, but on holidays. yes, he always did this to both my mother and me. yes , he does it to my mother too. still , he showed in every possible way that you are girls, but in an adult field already period. when yes, that is, not quite a child. no, i don’t remember, let’s say that the first rejection of your femininity happened then in childhood, he was completely unconscious, but he led you to, let’s say, meet with dad, so that there is more mutual understanding, so that dad feels good. as he expressed, and then you grow up and, accordingly , at the age of 8, a boy is born, your brother, your reaction. how did you generally associate yourself with these events, somehow cope with the fact that a new person appeared in the world. i'm on my own hung. based on your own position. i hung on myself. hmm such a responsibility for him senior. well, it was said to me, and there you are older, you have become older.
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now it all happened to me in general, when he appeared very strongly to him my brother she was a direct infection experience, kissed him there, yes, and that’s right all the time it’s in my opinion, again, how is dad with him? well, the youngest son there i am older, but he is a man. some other person, different upbringing. did not have. this is his mother right here he is right under his mother's skirt, straight, it looks like it, the films are there, yes, but, as it were, dad, but to him, well, as a boy , i don’t know how to write it like i didn’t mess around, didn’t lisp, somehow not there no well, i don’t i know how to get a word. he and dad had some activities that you and dad didn’t
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have. i do not know there to go fishing to hunt in the garage. no, i'll explain now, bro, i don't remember just at what age? but he went to the kindergarten, he was taken to the kindergarten to his grandmother, and i don’t remember. for what reason i had a little one there, yes, and that somehow then it didn’t go on i asked, like, as for the state of health, the climate is different there and my brother was sent to my grandmother. that is, i grew up with my parents all the time and preferably, but he was taken there later, and my parents went there to tambov, now i’ll tell you when he was 12 or 13 years old, about the same as 14 years old you no longer lived. yes, i was 21 years old. i'm 20 yes 20-21 almost uh-huh. so i've already begun to live separately , yeah. here, but as if my father did not have this time. here, well, with uh, they grew further. so you become a girl and you are fourteen there. well, how, how do you behave
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realized? how did you feel in this world score? ah here is, i have perception was always only behavior such. here is our codec - something like that. i don't know where it is. well, the behavior is more boyish. well, they don't. well , why do you think? i don't know how correct this is? well, dad perceived me like that, but dad accepted me like that, well, accordingly, probably, other men or other people there, probably, they should have perceived it, looked at other girls who behaved differently, you treated them. here they are, i don’t know, they were painted as if, but there were such as noble girls. uh, this is a very interesting point, because i've always looked after myself. even though i felt. that is, i have such a perception that communication has always been there, right? but if i took care of myself, i put on make-up. hmm there, i don't know, there, well, hair styling, everything there. that is, i always looked after myself, i always had it, but on vanilla
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girls like that. they become somehow for you, uh, images dangerous or unacceptable, well, they were other girls who are different, why are you afraid of them, some here, if it's vanilla right there, they have stupid stupid fools. yes? uh-huh yes, yes, and, accordingly, it is very important not to become dumb. maybe, uh-huh, maybe yes, well , i didn't like it. naturally, no matter how i look at her i'm not like that, i won't be like that, and in any case, at some point, uh, physiological processes began. when you realize that you have become a girl, this is the moment when you first had, and these days are so-called, how did you take it and who was next to you, did you know what was happening or did you lay down to die from blood loss. it was a little different. we lived in a small village, we
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went for a walk, and friends came to visit us there. and how, well, my mother's friend is her daughter. so the four of us went for a walk in the center, let's call it the village in the center. here, and hmm, and when was it some kind of warm summer day, or what? well, in general, it's warm, sunshine, in my opinion, this is we are returning. i don't remember much about this moment at home. i told my mother that something is not right, well, somehow, here we are going home, and this the plane did not talk about such topics. that is, i somehow formed myself in these plans for the soul. he never had any conversations with his mother. hmm, so i came home. i have one. well, it's kind of a shock, yes. mom is shown such that you, well, that is, here, well, as usual, well, what are you going through? what is there? well, now that's all. here, too, go yourself understand yes, it makes sense, how would
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you get some kind of individuation, but the fact that you become a girl, mom did not commit. although it is she who does this hmm yes, i remember this transition just like this, well, that is, how would you figure it out yourself, with a high probability, you can assume that your mother didn’t really know, like a woman, most likely. uh-huh, i just know my grandmother is very callous, that is, too. in general, very callous, this is the controller of it, but at one time she worked for the fsb mmm. she sat on read, letters checked. well, in the sense of somehow listed. in general, all this is necessary on the noses of everyone there. such are the cases, and, as it were, a grandmother is very tough, very callous. eh, how very i really loved to control everything and everyone uh-huh well, in general, my mother grew up in such circumstances, it turns out that this initiation did not happen and mother did not immerse you in this process , but
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then all sorts of gambling, marriage of a sexual nature, and so on, yes, that is, you understand that here, too , accordingly, you kind of have to make some kind of decision. you were scared. did you know where life is taking you or in general, i remember my first experience, and it was as if, well, everything, smoothly flowing all of our consciously. yes it was. it wasn't a relationship. it was at that moment that the relationship began, then quite such long-term ones began. yes, for this. it happened, you know, when everything is already around. uh-huh, i don't have one yet. well, okay, somehow even somewhere ashamed, probably. well, this belatedness was also associated, as if with some kind of no, even underdeveloped femininity, that is, immaturity, yes, that's how you perceived it. it is difficult to complex that i shared this event with my dad. yes
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reacted calmly, but he only said. well, this one sighed a little, but with such an understanding like this. he says, well, it was your choice there, yes, as it were, well, i would like, as he had such a phrase, but i would like to see it back and forth in marriage. in general, as it is supposed to be there, yes to my mother i was afraid to say this, dad said about it, mom's reaction was everything, as usual. and how? well, in general, everything on this has become some kind of your sacred secret, that now you are a woman with you. are you like all of you now? well probably in part. yes, i can assume that you have changed, and not to say that i was directly pleased with all this, that it was something like that, right? well, probably somehow it will still be better not
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what everyone describes. everything is far away, not the same picture. uh-huh, i think that somehow it has changed. so how did your relationship develop? and i just got in a relationship. after that somewhere i don't remember after a while. well, somewhere in six months, probably, well, i'll start. yes, there the feeling became more somehow there, and, accordingly, i then had, uh relationship in which we were relationship we lived together then ah 5 years. well, in these respects, you played some kind of women's game , or after all, you immediately started playing men's there, it wouldn't have worked out very well, probably, it was still some kind of your own women's game. uh, because man. probably, i can say, stronger, probably, or i was dependent on him there. yes, it's boring. i fell in love there, but i felt at that moment you will feel. i'm into him, he's into me, as it were, but at first everything is so beautiful there
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well, then somehow something more complicated went on, that's all. it felt like a hostage of some kind. well, in general, yes, it depends, well, this is an addiction, that is, i was still some kind of another collision with the fact that if you are a woman, then you are accordingly in danger, because if you play this female party, that is, you become a hostage of a man, from which you depend. hmm devaluation devaluation of you yes as a person, but as a person? like women yeah, there, well, the man walked for a while, he was straight, well, and it was not a cover, but practically. well then there knew everything knew, many. well, you continued to stay in that relationship. here i am talking about this, that it was addicted, most likely, as if laid down, as if when you changed your behavior model from this little tomboy. yes, you changed it to
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a softer, or something, female position here lay in wait for failure. yes, there was suppression here. that's how a person would like to crush me under him, so that i do. that's right, exactly everything that he wants, and he will do what he wants. well, what does he want like this here, essentially. we just discovered several stages, at each of which you were faced with being a woman . it is tailor-made for men according to their request, and being a woman often means simply serving the interests of a man. yes, i generally disagree with this. somehow i disagree with this. it's just culturally the way it looks now. i'm not saying that this is correct, but often women seem to find themselves in positions in which they you have to serve the interests of a man
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a man mines something many people there do not mine anything. they just lie on the couch, but they still continue to wash themselves, er, the lord of the world as prey there. yes, and a woman, accordingly, she somehow owes something all the time in this sense, a man also has a lot of debts and his own cockroaches there, too, but judging by the way you tell you several times, and at the moment you initiate the transition , just the same, in this female state, girls, girls, women, yes, every time you are faced with the fact that this is not very nice position. yes, she seems to be returning a little. and there is such a hypothesis. say yes, if it seems true that at the moment when your brother left, and he was sent to grandma, and you stayed with dad, dad, who was expecting a son, and he had a lot of expectations about it. yes.
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and as if there was no lot left, even then, in order to please dad, in order to be next to him , it is necessary, as if to replace not only himself in the role of a non-vanilla girl, but also to replace his brother, very similar to this. well then there is that position, it is more convenient , it is more familiar and there is a result from it, and we are psychologists sergey on ourselves at tatyana krasnovskaya, and marina is our guest with whom we are discussing the nature of femininity today. what is the key fear to put with this woman now, because i said that i hate vanilla women, and support you, but at the same time, it was a kind of trick on my part, which consists in the fact that those images that you reject in many ways they carry a danger to you, which means marina has become a vanilla woman? so let's imagine once marina is a vanilla
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woman and what will happen in this world? thank you, leave with what i'm leaving. here, with understanding , with the understanding that i, first of all, we found these moments. honestly, i didn’t even realize somehow, i didn’t understand that it’s very valuable for me that we call these moments of my initiation. so i also saw them, that they were very important on well, as on my formation, as a woman it’s cool. and, accordingly, that i do not owe anything to anyone in fact. and just this moment, when hmm well, i'm what i'm not yet where it is necessary i understood it. i came here with this, but now there is still a moment that m-m. just accept, just enjoy, just be. well, just yes, just be there, femininity is revealed. you don't have to do anything yourself. this is not a forced procedure. yes found that you just have
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to be it seems. yes, it just sounds like a word there. yes, it's not always clear how to do it. that is, how does it actually manifest itself, huh? i have a understanding of how to do it there, yes it is i can just write it a state, as i understand it, as i feel it, as just to be, when you are in the moment, and you have no extraneous thoughts in your head. you're not in the future thinking about what i need to do. you are not in the past digesting some situation there. my aunt lyusya stepped on my foot 2 hours ago, how painful it was, what kind of bastard is she? excuse me. yes, but you are here. you see some manifestations of a person. and, you know, a state of some kind of silence, i don’t know, inner silence, and you are in observation. you spoke very beautifully about the future, about the past, about the future. this is when the surrounding men show attention to you.
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but you don’t make plans on how the past was to get your grandchildren, respectively, you don’t return to the future , it’s to remove this position, i have to do it there, and i’ve already built everything there, yes, and the past is not to drag this baggage from past that's last year's relationship. yes, yes, just eat, just eat a person, as it were, and let him be. that's how to remove this importance. here is the importance of attention approaching you because you, unlike that baby from that girl who had this initiation. you are an adult woman who is actually able to withstand this , this, this border and let you in and approach you as much as you feel comfortable. you control the distance the game is such a nice even good game. and just like that, there is, yes, femininity, yes, the class is super. great! deep conversation, in general. thank you very much. thank you, why
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