well, well, i see this is a positive question. only here there are a lot of difficulties that are very difficult to overcome. the fact is that, well , the station can be shot off those modules that are outdated, build it up with modules that american commercial structures will already make to support it. well, who will manage them, that the ground-based structures of nasov will manage the commercial station. if they pay for work, that's it and how much will it cost? i don't know, that's all, and the resource of all these stations and so on. that there is not just all cheap how much the ticket costs. well, i don't know, 50 million. it's been over for a long time. well, yes, by 80 already, in my opinion. why, and even even musk does not reduce the price, as far as i know, well, popularity. oh, at the same time, it's popular, but not practically profitable,

that is, it pays off a little, but it doesn't pay off. uh, all the costs, and the state, of course, is more profitable to give. this is in private hands and let them do what they want, and invest the money themselves. here in the same artemis, well , in general, with this assortment below, too, not everything fine. they still have not approved, for example, the project of the lander, and before uh, their announced landing is 3 years away. that is, they have all this the same thing with spacesuits, which, by the way, are also one thing to go out in a spacesuit and walk on the surface. there are even several hours or even days, and another thing is to constantly work, because the features of e moon dust. it's like rubbing against sandpaper, for example, that is, it penetrates everywhere and it has sharp edges and is therefore convincing. almost everything a

they don't know how to overcome it. it's only the moon, and i'm not talking about mars. although you can say, that's also about mars look , you flew. yes, each cosmonaut consumes about 3 liters of water at the station per day. we can for three people 9 liters of water per day per month for 7 months there, 7 months back and for six months. at least there regeneration should be a return. well, you are unlikely to generate more than 50%, because it is water that will go to get oxygen. yes, that's right, well, at best, 50 is according to my estimates, it turns out somewhere tons, only three of one water is needed for this flight for three people. and plus food, and plus consumables, and plus clothes for a year and a half there for almost two, and so on and so forth. i mean

, it's an incredible thing. and besides, after all, it's impossible to replenish. if something happened in orbit now, some kind of malfunction, something is missing, they sent it on a cargo ship, and so on. and you can't send anything there. so all stocks are idealized. you need to bring with you for sure. i think the defense in which you took part, by the way, is interesting about this experiment on the material that you are developing, which was tested in the tradition of a special protective composite. i was a trained supervisor. with me, it began to be exhibited at the station . a few months later there. i took the first readings no longer showed that really. he works. it is possible that there will be a different type. that is, it will even be possible to have a type of fabric, that is, to make clothes for astronauts will be the second stage. well we are we look forward to what will be put on display. eh, into outer space and we will

look. uh, how does this material behave in an open braid. well, when exposed to a temperature difference, radiation is everything else. well, until now , the problem with radiation protection has not been solved, not solved. that's why you need to fly quickly in order to pick up less well, but for this you need a newer generation engine, well, or protect yourself with modern engines to fly longer. here's what you think. uh, hmm, now everyone says, of course, yes. it's not just let's just say american is already some kind of world leader who invests money, and he succeeds in everything, his new ships fly. now, if someone in russia we can have such a person who i don’t know, a businessman, a good engineer korolev was fortunately with mashka. probably world happiness, here he has developed the directions that you spoke, then he is a businessman. that is, he has a very large own resource. after all, he

has now once again become the richest man on the planet. it doesn't mean he has, uh, a room full of money. this invested everything works, and everything still gives profit, profit, and he can take it and invest it in what he wants, the second is with him. uh, since childhood, a passion for space, you know? that is, it is fanaticism to do something in this direction. well, the third expensive. a hobby is an opportunity. e possibilities. so i figured, though, i thought back in november that in the united states, if you remove the mask, then according to gost programs, state missiles were launched. in total, there were eight launches, eight in a year with us. superfluous, and they have eight now, if you remove the mask altogether, that is, he practically took eight-tenths of the launch on himself, took it on himself. we don't have that yet.

now there is. uh, there are companies that make satellites, for example, and this year there will be a launch, there are the next nine satellites, for example, here, that is, uh, there is a private business, but it is not at the wrong level. uh, so what do you think, let's fantasize, how do you see a man in space in 50 years? uh, i'm afraid to be an optimist, because korolev was an optimist and thought during his lifetime that uh astronauts will fly to the moon and mars as a result more than half a century has passed. after he was gone, we did not fly to the moon or mars. the americans have not flown anywhere for 50 years either. so there are somehow optimistic dreams, uh, forecasts and uh, real-life achievements. they somehow don't fit together, so i think i

'll be more pessimistic about it. and probably on the moon there will be permanent bases of international people who will explore. e and make experiments on mining and e delivery to the ground. here are these rare earth metals, whose resources on earth will end. and it will be in 30 years, in 20 or in 50, it's hard to say, but this way is mm. well, we just don't have any other way, besides, i really hope that, uh, when the flight to the moon for 50 years. it will definitely become more or less regular. on the far side of the moon, they will build it. uh, telescopes, which are radio telescopes that can scan space, uh, and be isolated from interference, uh, from terrestrial civilization and so

. it will be another breakthrough. here's how hubble has made a breakthrough. let's see yes, we, we, or some earthlings, uh, can make, uh, in radio astronomy, here is the same breakthrough by eliminating these interferences, which now make it very difficult to single out. uh, external signals to filter out this noise that creates the earth. so, without this, there is also nowhere to go, but, of course , environmental problems must be solved on earth, otherwise none of this will simply happen. because i do not know how critically the temperature will rise. uh, the average surface temperature of the earth, as far as it will have a critical impact on climates, respectively, on the production of earthly life on the earth maybe, uh, now the temperature will go up sharply, there will be a flood, an earthquake, and that's it. and there is no time

for space, in general there will be a stone age, it ’s hard to say here, but here is the way to space. he, of course, for the resources of the moon, the former just not mars mars i think that the next 50 years will not be achieved. now we have learned this point of view on our future. uh, we had a very interesting conversation with a real specialist in the space industry, igor marinin. this podcast space stories and i anton today we gathered our thoughts on the topic of the post. hello dear friends natalia gennadievnaseva. let's start with tolstoy leo nikolayevich tolstoy writes in his diary. i'm not

verbatim, i'm quoting. yes , experts will forgive me, well, we need to figure it out, in general, with fasting with orthodoxy govel. nothing burned out. honest did not feel anything, everything is nonsense. where is the mistake? or maybe not a bug. but, of course, i cannot answer the great classic. what is he burnt in? how did he talk? well, probably there were some, don't remember this moment will either fall out, or i’ll have a diary somewhere, and i ’ve left such a school one, where i don’t remember. well, it doesn't matter, you understand, it's just that you can also conduct in different ways, what purpose of believing can be simply observed because i was told that it can be correctly observed, because this is my sacrifice to god, a certain part, relatively speaking, great 4, tenth tenth of my life. she is specifically dedicated to god. and you can just carry out consciously meaningfully. uh, understanding how it works in

depending on what modality of the post we will be in general, you can simply observe, you can just wear it, right? if you want to talk about it, we will definitely come to this. you know, i have my own version, of course, and lev nikolaevich set up a scientific experiment. if a then b a i always , when i read it for the first time, i mentally entered into a dialogue with the great. i say count and why did you decide that you had to feel something certain what do you think, well, he's generally a maximalist. listen , well, the person who learned there, uh, a bunch languages ​​and began to learn japanese in the ninth decade of life. yes. this is the same person who set himself. uh, obviously unattainable goals and was disappointed. yes, and broke off so do not match. well, i don't know, i know a huge number of, uh, and uh people and stories, when such a zealous neophyte. at the beginning of the post

, it led to rather severe disappointment and many years of resentment at himself and , of course, lev nikolayevich tolstoy , it seems to me, would also, of course, not want to present it to a psychoanalyst. i have long been a classic, but it seems to me that it was resentment against himself, of course, it was an insult to some unfulfilled expectations. god and it even seems to me to myself, well, which person e obviously, it seems to me, was waiting for some e, there e illumination of some kind of transfiguration , some kind of metamorphosis. yes, that's all, now the holiday has come, i open the door of the gift. no, how? yes, for some reason i was reminded of one story, one of my friends told me that his friend decided. so the church for the first time in

its life immediately fasted everything, as it should be according to the church charter. prepare for the first life of confession for a lifetime everything is grown-up everything is truly great e. thursday, he went to confession, took communion for the first time in his life , came home, opened the freezer. he took out a frozen steak, ate it and said more. i will never do that. in the sense of eating a steak, do not fast at all, or go to the temple , nothing. it seems to me that there is very little. he's not raw. i hope you don't listen. well, it's just a classic. listen like this right now. it seems to me, cynically, uh, walked through the thousands of people who have the first the experience of fasting or strict fasting, of course, was exactly like this, when i’ll go through about completely unbearable physical emotional limitation that is disproportionate to your readiness. and so,

when you just fly into the tartars, sometimes in the literal sense. yes, when they faint in the temple like this, thousands of thousands of people, you immediately understand, here, standing there, lies a pale student, who, you know, like, there is even a real case when one of our parishioners 15 years ago, a very, very responsible excellent student came with a printed out table. from there list with 200 sins and marked with small checkmarks, then there are none of their own. these are all her sins, but with ticks. she noted. how much she was there for a week between confessions, so to speak, she sinned. yes, there, here , i was angry here. she was annoyed here and there , she didn’t think something there. this is a very common path of neophyteism, and this, of course, is actually a big problem, because uh, especially you know, uh, such an intellectual elite of the church that you

both relate to the lord. yes, here is a mirror, look. here you know such snobbery, so i can say that it’s a sign that it’s better there, so don’t eat people. you are the area. since there is another host here , you have your own podcast. yes, i soldered these , you said, um, right there, but it’s right to eat, yes, to fast. and what does it mean to be correct in a correct position means to find the correct internal tension corresponding specifically to you, which will be working, which will be productive, that is, we are removing all this superfluous. in what we usually creep a little. and further conditionally on a certain look at the indicator. here is the voltage arrow on in which zone is the green yellow or red that i already have everything shaking. and this will be expressed in the fact that we finally find the time , the spiritual strength and the ability to do what we did not have before. this was not enough.

and what, we do, first of all, forget about love for god, love for your neighbor, but here i’ll interrupt you for a second, here’s what natasha began to say, there are already such two extreme approaches, yes two extremes, one main idea , do not eat. this snobbery is pseudo-intellectual. why, spreading butter on the sausage, the intellectual will deliver the first week. the main thing people, they are and immediately bit off is the opposite point of view on the charter first money. there , dry food is everything, then it ends in a hungry way at best, or, as yes, with gastritis. uh, or as my friend said. here berries fasted so fasted did not eat anything. he condemned everyone. well, that is such a verdict. yes, but how do you respond to what the father said, here's how to collect it somehow myself. it seems to me that the experience of going through this is very much. i really like it when you write about worship. uh, lenten is not what you know, i'm jealous. this is not such a feeling, but i am glad that people

experience it, that a person experiences it and can say about it. for me. it's very difficult. both the first and the second. i have had different paths, but i have been in the church for many years now. eh , it's over 20 years old, and it's nothing special, because it's these upswings downswings downswings, but uh, you're talking about something after all. i found harmony in v. eh, probably, you are aesthetics in beauty, but you understand it not in external beauty, that is, not something not byzantine, yes, but the beauty of this depth. now you mean worship, you mean worship. i mean internal state. i'm really looking forward to great always. and although for me as a person, uh, gourmet or what i'm afraid it's always, of course, to cook. yes? yes, for me, the restriction , of course, uh, the restriction in food i am, well, i still try, thank god. i can still keep the fast. well, yes, it’s not strictly enough

monastic charter, but nevertheless , for me, fasting is this inner focus. this is the internal collection. this is such a mobilization. when you know, you're just here in the ocean in the sense that you , uh, finally you have a reason which is often not enough in the bustle to discard a lot of things and concentrate. and in this sense, of course, the parish does not help, because the whole parish tradition is there for additional readings. here we are now reading not the first post. we read the old testament. and it's always some kind of you know this. well, or there in the angel in some we read, you know , this is an additional one, and the skeleton is a crystalline lattice that collects you in vanities, and leaves and you are finally tin. it’s only great lent you have such feelings, yes, there are other multi -day fasts, there are less strict, but the construction site is too short , yes, yes, in order to, by the way, yes, by

the way, it’s physically harder for me to endure the assumption fast than a two-week fast huge five-day. but it's amazing that i'm sorry, please stop at 10 for a minute. here in general, it was never difficult for me to graze physically, i speak with caution, because , as it were, as soon as you say something affirmative, it immediately begins. yes, but here it is to collect yourself what you said, but at the same time, very people who will look at us. yes, they are still waiting for answers to some very specific questions. yes, and these treatments. well, it doesn't matter how important it is, how unimportant it is, it's important, the food component you can get, of course, it's important. and at the same time, we know, that's even said in the monastery charter, but there is no other. yes there is a monastic charter, that is, there is a charter for the bridge, which everyone publishes. uh, already different and church secular different media, uh, no one will go. they are they before i say, a priest is needed.

normal yes, normal displacement, you understand, about which these words are important such a marker of the priest's normality. yes, the fact that the priest sees before him a living person with a universal, and not just a function. those who come to the temple puts a candle, says the right things at confession, then takes communion and disappears, and he knows nothing about her. here are the topics don't walk away like a man to fast to fast wisely is the highest virtue of prudence. yes, the ability to distinguish the real from the apparent. here, uh, according to the plans, the result of the post is known, if a person finds himself in such a story as we have just told, it means that he was radically chosen incorrectly. uh, well, the fashion from this post is fine when there is tension, but it doesn’t seem to destroy a person. i had a completely funny

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today we gathered our thoughts on the topic of great lent and what it is eaten with natalia loseva archpriest pavel giants. i am vladimir of the left. yes, let's continue our conversation. i think that the post should not be absolutely light, of course, there should be efforts, efforts, and you know, i have one friend who is a friend, he is an orthodox church man, a big businessman and he conducts experiments, uh, outstanding for any vegetable protein, and he makes such cutlets from vegetable protein. there's all sorts of big american meat. yes, they are delicious, but no, well, they just don’t turn. it's just impossible to post, it's not easy. i think that you think the post should be uncomfortable. yes, it should be simple in what, in order to have a little bit of god allow to be here to free up a little space so that there is where to come. yes

, it makes sense to put something if we are talking about tithing something. abolish, stretch and it turns out that there is a god bu- allowed, please, yes, stop flying. stop fussing, stop twitching to deal with your worldly issues and these places will be god. look. after all, if we look at some of the technical components of fasting, we will see that they are in a completely amazing way combined with secular tendencies, which i am talking about, because now it is very uh, very uh, fashionable to introduce various kinds of austerities, for example, conscious consumption of proper nutrition. emotional intellect. a healthy lifestyle, including, so to speak, is emotionally moral and moral , and it turns out that we tell a person that

look, you can do everything that is now trendy and fashionable. what do they teach you on different coaches. forgive me lord session god, so starve. quite right. only well, only not christ yes, then, there is all the same huge raspulyation of my majesty ego you understand, but it may be interesting for a person through this practice later, but through practice , here are the limits of awareness of the emotional intelligence of mercy humanism about helping the weak come to christ, let's now take a step back one minute. here's what he said. i think there are a lot of twists and turns here. i would like to start these as i would like to start, indeed, on the one hand, life includes such, as it were, ascetic or ascetic exercises, yes, quite skeptically, but on the other hand, there is an idea that, well, maybe a little earlier, it was more vivid that christianity is constantly wearing socks, that is, constantly humility of the flesh. there you don’t eat up

, you don’t get enough sleep, and so on. but after all, what is important about what i would like to say very much christianity , against the background, at least of those religions that existed when it arose, did not differ at all in an extreme sketch of the hexagonal nature of christians in general. it came into the world with the statement that you need to turn on your head and avoid extremes. and this is the first part, more precisely, the second, but the first. and here is what we are now approaching, that all this is done for the sake of christ is a famous, christian author, let's say, but here, yes, and he chrysostom says that if you do not marry because of contempt for marriage, and not love for christ, then this is worse than debauchery, of course. what does it mean? that's for christ, uh, it means what is it like to understand? yes, you understand. and what does it mean for the sake of christ? this means that it allows us to tune in to a certain tone, so to speak, a certain resonance with how

christ lived and taught. why is the main problem of ourselves in relation to god is we they are not the people around them. this is that we have a powerful magnet on which it constantly sticks. what is passion passion is it? healthy striving of the strength of the soul, which is stuck on the person himself. and the primary thing here becomes just the same, this is the decoy - this is the lure of pleasure. and fasting in this sense helps a person to feel that he can tear himself away from this magnet. and now, when he tears it off, it appears, well , relatively speaking, a certain excess of energy, an excess of force, which either he directs at himself within the framework of some coaching technologies, the coach practitioner and there, thereby he will increase his own importance , his controllability and everything else, or he will turn it to god in order to have a high-speed channel of communication with god and

interaction with god so that he starts recognize. what is the will of god and this will of god, when a person begins to see it in no way some kind of antagonist in relation to the person himself, but what reveals you inside, when you begin to feel that god actually brings the world less just like that. he wants something from me that he wants from me since he always brought me he knows much better what i can do. but this is the very depth, but look one more step back. now to the question that natasha asked now, as i understand it, yes, and if not, then for the sake of christ, everything else is. yes, uh, and even there some kind of help is somewhat weaker. this is love for them and love. yes? so i think it’s still better than if it didn’t exist, in general, here a person lives , came home from work, took a small bottle. pifa, pivasika, turned on some kind of tv series or a movie. and now he thinks, he feels quite well himself, everything can

intersect. interesting about what? well, i want to ask you how lobachevsky's eucalyte can cross uh, a person who fasts in the church by christ and the second straight line when a person does all the same. the same asceticism , the same love, too, mercy, without christ , they can intersect. i think they can, of course even. but this means that there is also nothing just a person. maybe this is not realize. well look good. and why at all is this all the pumping of certain qualities? he already has some kind of goal-setting for the sake of which it is better to sign the best version of you for yourself, that each next best version of you does not lead to the fact that the need for god, it decreases, on the contrary, increases. you understand that, relatively speaking, you create

a beautiful frame around yourself about the content, it remains the same, as it was disagree, wait, disagree gave, with whom with engels or scouts with wallpaper. i don't agree. it cannot cross. you know, as it seems to me, why. because there is a principle, a fundamental difference in these two situations in situations where a person does not think about god and then he says everything beautiful white fluffy at the heart of everything, i can do any training. i can. yes you are. you deserve it. you must love yourself. you must then i can and you then god begins with words. i can't and how is it, can it be, can it fit? father said i'm only on one occasion if he thinks he can, yes it is talks, but does some right

things. and god eventually shows him that in general, it's not you, he must understand at some point that it's not him. it happened to you or something else that if you try without christ to achieve a better version of yourself and some ideal version of yourself, then you eventually begin to realize yourself as the best version in the world. that is, by god, and further, so pride, the fall of everything that we know, further ourselves , because this is my own constructed by my ego, the universe, which is not that, that is not that, that there will be no place for god. he's excluded. by definition, he excluded, yes, and here we settle down. well, you don’t want to be saved, you don’t want to do it, the church says, so in this obedience, like cutting off your will, and we give to the one we trust, whom we love in this sense, you are both a victim and at the same time time is a powerful pumping tool. here is space for another. here is my world. he is still there. you have

your own world. you have your own business, it exists, and here's the next question. as far as we we allow something or someone else to enter it, but how to find it? here is one of the questions, so to speak, one of the methods was voiced, but to find a priest there who will help you. well, look, it turns out here that we accept the thesis of father paul that fasting is a kind of state of discomfort, while we remember how father paul began that with this state of discomfort, if it is not moderate, you can imagine bring to the point that you either faint there, or start eating frozen steaks and talk. i never mean it again, it's a matter of measure. and how is it? that's how people look, i listen to you. i listen to all the fools, yes, how to define it? maybe a priest can help? ah, if there is no glow, or he. hmm, too, can be mistaken, how i must feel. here is the serial. that's what i like about the series. uh, i decide by post, i will not watch the series, therefore, well, the first week

i will not be accurate, then monday evening, more precisely in the morning. well, i didn’t watch yesterday today, because this discomfort is not gives the result of that discomfort. well, as discomfort, in order for a pause to appear in life, a pause must appear, life must appear, some metaphors, some islands of emptiness. understand here at the person suddenly. well, it’s easier, easier, uh, a person , instead of spending an hour on cooking , spent, considering lean food, considering the simplification of a significant simplification, in general, of the entire relationship to the nutrition process. he spent half an hour, he got half an hour free, damn, what is the whole? for half an hour you can go out into the street and just about nothing don't think or do anything. this is a great opportunity to just turn to god and just be alone with yourself to look inside everything. this already means your post works.

if because you are fasting your cooking time increases one and a half times hmm if your budget increases three times because of shrimp, because after that yes and so on, then you are wrong in that you , it can be very bad due to the fact that you have not been kissing all for three whole weeks go your favorite meat, something else. today we gathered our thoughts on the topic of great lent and what natalya loseva , archpriest, and pavel giants eat it with. i am vladimir of the left. yes, let's continue our conversation. well, you already said. and this, i think, will be the most interesting part of our conversation. why you can not lose weight on lean food. in theory, let’s say very much, we just remove animal squirrels, that is, it’s even impossible, how to compensate with permitted reptiles. ah, so our food becomes carbohydrate and hello, yes, that is, we just break the whole

balance, so the only opportunity will not be distributed in breadth. this is what not to wrap fried potatoes, uh, with mushrooms and onions, and a plate of pasta with other things, that is, those very excesses. that is, you have to limit you, uh, to the table, not only, uh, in food in terms of its diversity. well, its calories and quantity. if you don't want to, then three sizes more to fit into an easter dress. here, what's to buy a new, what's a new red dress, yes big so this is such a typical misconception. and so he speaks, and he is there how can he fast. so he recovered, well, according to the rules, because really such a yes, another thing is that now, uh, all uh studies show that periods of abstinence from animal protein are very, very useful in terms of rejuvenating the body. so, after all, there is a benefit, physical, well, this is 100%, and i think that it’s not so simple that the tradition

of fasting was formed by modern interacting nutritionists who say, well, lord, you should eat meat uh, so to speak, no more, uh, the third e days a year, and then we take calculator, we count wednesdays, fridays, posts , we understand that yes. this is ours, less orthodox. than the third. even less than more than 200. if you observe friday on wednesday, then there were 200 fasting days in the year, in my opinion, yes it turns out. well, that is, it turns out that, well, yes , it turns out that 2 types of the year are not no meat and that's fine is another matter. what do you understand? here we are a long-suffering experience. yes, with broken knees in the trash, directly in the sense it shows that for a more or less productive passage of the post, er. still just fine you pass, you are never satisfied at the end , you still always have a feeling, at the end of the post. yes, those days have flown by. you

haven't achieved anything. you're just here, yes. just uh, start on the cons on the third floor. it seems to you, here, but nevertheless. i realized for myself that e fasting is possible only if the right and left sides work in the sense that you are limited in the idea and you , in the spiritual e plan, are reconstructed in this sense, the church tradition. the same of the same grand canon a and quite physically tiresome days of the first week of great lent, anti is very cool to mobilize. and this helps both the restriction in food and the spiritual , this is the physical mobilization, including with bows to the earth. yes, when you even have a trained person so everything reads to ache. and this helps a lot and under the criteria of how to balance everything one of my friends on a sermon brought a brilliant phrase says, well, grandmothers come to me,

then they barely drag many people say dragging, and how chewing gum is for us without oil. here we have to barely this use. and i tell you what the two wings of fasting are: fasting and prayer. now, if you go to the lavra every day for services both in the morning and in the evening, then you cannot eat with butter. and if you do not have such an opportunity to walk, because excuse me, you already have to eat with butter, and this has some kind of wisdom of its own, but it is intricately real all the same. it seems to me that there is a lack of some kind of popularization or enlightenment of norm a and the measures of fasting, because here i believe that here is what we have only monastic charter, to which one way or otherwise, everyone is oriented and there are no any. that is what is missing. well, at least an explanation or some well-trained listener , a normal live one, a priest comes to everyone. he knows this nerves to whom. in time, resolve the first thursday there.