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premiere on football with denis kazansky on sunday at the first big game big bookmaker general partner of the russian premier league this is an arbitrary podcast program. i am maxim trankov and my guest today is the beautiful elizaveta tuktamysheva liz, you are a little girl from glazov who came to st. petersburg to train. well, conquered the world , did you ever have a moment when you were not

called an empress, but felt like such a crown did you ever have? yes, i don't feel right now. i just don't have that moment, because i myself um don't like people who put on a crown, especially if they didn't achieve anything. that's why i had were before our eyes, as if such examples and i never wanted to. even just a little to stop like that, especially since i had a company nearby that would immediately give me a slap on the back of the head if something like that slipped somewhere, and i like it that i am like that. they kept well. well, this, in short, there was no moment, but in st. petersburg, on the streets, the boys will definitely find out, yes, they will, but that's why i only drive in my car and most often only to the skating rink and home, so as not to be hmm some

places . uh, crowded storks in moscow in moscow, too, will definitely know, but here they don’t have their own cars. that's why i'm only in a hotel or in a megasport somehow. yes, not me, no matter how well i take this calmly, but the only thing is if i do something, or i eat somewhere in a restaurant and mean some kind of active dialogue, but i don’t really like it. if they interrupt and persistently ask to be photographed, that is, for me this is a violation of personal space and i absolutely agree. this is what i don't like very much. and so, in principle, if it politely comes up when i'm not busy with anything, it's like would ever refuse. i don’t remember the fans with a photo or an autograph, but maybe i could have refused once, but i don’t remember this situation, but i won’t lie that it’s always right. uh, i

always give everyone autographs. well, yes. i, too , a person, there are different moments that you are tired or that you just arrived at 6:00 in the morning, uh, competitions at the airport at the airport, we will find out. i recently refused to remember, because i flew in just now i remembered in st. petersburg, without makeup, everything is as simple as stuffed animals and sleeping want. i'm so tired and lisa comes up to me and says. sorry i can't at all. now let's not be better, like an autograph , but not a photo. well, i think that it is important for a girl, because i take pictures with a crooked oblique. listen, well, i have not seen you, never you are in a bad condition. it's still plus or minus the same. i really like to remember the upbringing of just the province uh -huh that is, i am also not from moscow, not from st. petersburg, but from the city of perm and you are from

a city that did not influence you very far. this is what you have for the yards i shoot point blank. well, i think so, yes, still your roots. they always live in you. where did you grow up. in what society are there up to 10 years. at least you communicated what values? i think, just the same from what i grew up in glazov with me, but i hope it won't be like this. do you know the excitement from your person? uh, like, you'll always land yourself a little bit, because yes, you still don't forget. well, i don't know how to explain it without insulting myself at the same time, like, don't forget. where are you from, but at the same time time. eh, i like it, it's kind of. well , i don’t know modesty in some terms,

maybe, but this does not mean that i, in principle, am a modest person. i myself am like this, you and i can know there cha-cha-cha, but at the same time, even time, yes, but the boundaries should not be violated somehow, you know what i don’t know about. if anything, i'm the audience, then somewhere. thank you for your long skating career. i think you've seen everything. is there anything else you would like to try or repeat? we are talking about professional sports programs or whatever we're talking about. it's a free program podcast. i don’t know the keyword arbitrary, it seems to me that i really saw a lot of things and skated a lot of things and found it in competitions, but i always have a stupor every year. that is , i don’t have such a thing that i want to definitely

roll it up to this music. my dream has never been that there is no music at all. right now i can’t imagine in my head under which i would definitely like to skate and do a program, and it never happened that it was also the east, or oblivia , or loneliness, that’s all they offered me, and then i got this pancake, yes, it’s cool. i myself am a rap lesson as old as i will be. for example, i always dreamed of performing with tanya at the second concerts. and i was forever afraid that i would not pull out this power. but i realized myself in my students, because taras morozov skated with me. this is amazing music and really it. if you take it, then you need to take it to professionals who they will be able to roll it out, but i don’t know why you doubted yourself. it seems to me that you

would definitely have rolled it out amazingly, in general, when i asked you the question that you have been in figure skating for a very long time, so that you would like to try something new. i wanted to bring you to a conversation about one tournament in which you did not have a chance to speak, but just to do it more politely. you know i cut. i just don't think about it. that is , you think that just not to think about the olympic games. it's easier than in myself let's just say well look, you can always choose not to know your behavior your emotions. you always make a choice in favor of something in favor of the fact that you will feel bad about this choice. or you choose what will be more or less normal and even good for you. maybe, that is, but in terms of the olympics. or maybe

a third time. uh, when you missed there, i don’t know how to kill myself against the wall. i don't know what people do there when they lose something strong. uh, well, or you might think that. well , there's something you can do now. i don't regret anything what, because in my last olympic season i was in very good shape. how would i have done everything in my power, but the girls who went to the olympics were very much better, and there were no regrets at all. but in principle, if we are talking about the next olympics, then it is not clear what will happen there. naturally, i would like to ride somehow, if such an opportunity, well, i introduce myself, that is, there is no such thing as the olympics for me. this is basically some bullshit. and i decided that that's all i am there

i don’t think about it without the olympics, of course , it was very pleasant for me to speak there or just go there to see, but this atmosphere, but i ’ll live fine without it. i have good titles and i don't know i'm long. i don't know how long i ride it somehow. well, in short, you ride for a long time. and now you, by the way, are already mature and wise, and in the fourteenth year, when you did not participate in the olympics, which, in principle, you could win, because there was your rival at that time by age, who became an olympic champion, and puberty and in head, and doubts began when in the head doubts this is everything for me, this is everything. so, i got over these doubts on 14th . what doubts are you talking about, what do you mean self-doubt, that you don’t know you can’t,

that you are unworthy, that is, uh, i always have a clear understanding at the beginning of the season. where will i be in the season and it always works, or did i set myself up like that, that is, in xv i clearly understood that here i am. there is a chance here now, well, because i saw, and in the fourteenth i understood that there is yulia lipnitskaya what if sotnikova valley well, if that's what you think. but i could n’t instill this in myself, then no one could, because i was already in myself, i already put myself in third place, and there were two places. eventually. and when you are already losing to everyone in your thoughts, then you can’t collect it, and i struggled with it very much, i was fifteen, and then i fell into this hole again, and i had, uh, 2 years. so i struggled with this until i learned three today. i realized that

the old maximum already has a chance for something something to win that in 2015 liza won the world and european championships and the final. well, that is, in principle, since the golden season, or for that only mice, just came with me , the olympic post, like this time, you don’t see any pattern in this, that you always succeed in the next season after the olympics best? it always happens this way, but i don’t know why, but razin’s justice is finally and last season was good for me, in principle, if you don’t count one fall of the saxon or the only mistake in the season, but everything else was good. we continue. this is a free program podcast. i am maxim trankov and my guest today is the beautiful elizaveta tuktamysheva and when you perform in a show, that's what you are ready to give to the audience. you understand

that here people came bought a ticket. they are waiting for some kind of spectacle that you are willing to do to satisfy them. if i had the opportunity, i would generally select a program for cities, because we have a huge country and viewers, for example, from some small towns, the snow that i am now rolling is very touching. let's go to the cities then. we have moscow st. petersburg, kazan novosibirsk give each city some kind of program you came up with in moscow would you like something there in moscow let's ride, huh? soul skriptonit next in st. petersburg leningrad well cord naturally, it's obvious. in

kazan you can skate kazan in the free east i don't know and novosibirsk novosibirsk the snow is what i'm skiing right now at the beginning of our interview. you said that you would like develop further. so well, where would you like to develop. in which direction is the problem in this problem, you know, yes, there are some, maybe dream ideas. i don't know what you would like to be next. there are no such neurosurgeons . i am well aware of my ability to take. well, i can introduce something with you, for example, i see myself in this. i

like it. the only thing, again, you need to work on your voice. above speech. and by the way, this is not true. it's just, i understand what kind of school you went through to grow up in this. well , maybe it was easy for you, but in in principle, it's complicated, yes, and i'm provincial and sometimes ending with still incorrectly pronounced words. all this is there, so it's not as simple as it looks, uh, from the outside, maybe you study for someone and then you do your work and say something wrong. uh-huh. right there in your head, yo-mine. i said wrong, at least you already know. well, i think that i will always have time to be a coach. and while i have. uh, my freedom of youth

is creativity. i want to. it's more use. and the coach. i just understand that if you are a coach, then i can’t imagine how you combined all this. but if you are a coach, it seems to me that you, too, live by this and train your group day after day , trying to achieve some results, and there is no strength left for anything else, no time left. but this is how i see it, because i didn’t have a combination as such, because i know that a lot of hmm talk about it in my work, that i worked there poorly, because i did everything there, but in fact i only coached, that is, i only commented figure skating when i was competing on the same ones with mine. yeah, there are other species they don't have. i didn’t even comment, i tried not to take couples,

because i was biased, of course, with other couples and in fact, in principle, especially the last 2 years before the olympic games. i haven't missed a single workout with the guys. that is, i did not have such a thing that i directly combined it was replaced. i didn't skate in the show, so we didn't see me in the show for a very long time. well, in the show here, too, it turns out great. so while there is a possibility. i it seems to me that it’s better to use this time to the maximum, and show projects. i don’t know, there are some ideas in my head, but the coach is very difficult. it's right she will suck everything out of herself, therefore, i want for now, while there is an opportunity to save this energy. listen, here you are talking about some kind of media development, yes , your own, but we have it now. just one square meter skater leading. yes, this is also competition, of course, in your case

, competition with the same. and everywhere is the same, well, somehow you have to be, uh competitive, so that in this case it would be easier for me, because there was only lyosha igudin, and, in principle, i just took examples from him, just saw that well, how professional he is doing it there. i thought that maybe i can also do at least 10% of what he can do at the expense. there, maybe charisma or something else. well, you already have rivals. there are, but they are always there, but there is always eliza, only we are now you are not the same as in the fourteenth year. i have learned already. i have become more confident ourselves, so we'll see. if not, then i'll find something else, there are always ways out

, so it's important to always remember that you can always find some kind of way out. look , you said that you always have some kind of goal at the beginning of the season, where you roughly understand where you should be. in this case, where do you think you should be? i don't know, i run my own podcast. i'm doing my show there on some venues and doing some other shows on some venues. it's insanely complicated, but it's some kind of fun rhyme, but they're not exactly podcasts, but make an entertainment show of some sort. and it seems to me that i was able to entertain people. probably if i'm still here. i try to behave seriously, then in life i am completely different. well, you know , they confirm. well , it seems to me, in principle, that in figure skating it is possible now that we are developing very coolly, and we already

have both under the weak and all sorts of projects. and this is just figure skating at the top level, but you can still make it, and even more entertaining, so that people not only, but come to watch figure skating, because well, on tv, because they only do figure skating, they love him. and just you switch and now, uh , find another new audience, like basketball during breaks. they do great. cool exits. also there on the fill to do some kind of show. damn, i'll tell you all my ideas now, let's cut out these ideas, we have already tried them, even slightly implement them. i'm interviewing during the filling. no, this interview is not enough to do it right, you have to do it right. something cool season between performances. let's come let's run, please, with you. yeah, yeah, it's something like something like a draw, here's a tournament, you mean, i don't know, just more entertaining, because

we're serious. this is a serious sport. we are still conservative and we need to bring a little bit of brightness drive. well, what we can bring with you. well, it seems to me that it would be interesting for people too, because they are watching and everyone is like that. yes, it’s beautiful to ruffle them a little. well, i don't know, but i guess i just always wonder when there is some kind of joke, when it's fun, it always grabs attention. you somehow also rest on this. well, when it’s just there, or filling, or constantly these here. programs are monotonous or not monotonous, it can sometimes get tired of this you can in an ideal world. well, yes, because there are still athletes and coaches who are very difficult to agree on something, and even elizaveta tuktamysheva on the free

program podcast. we waited a couple of months. i don't know at all how it happened. what was not at all time. well, yes, this is in an ideal world, but i'm just telling you that it would be cool if we did something recreational entertainment directly related to figure skating next season in figure skating in other sports, how can i combine, how everyone knows who comments writes comments in social networks. we will combine we will combine, yes lisa thank you very much, we are waiting for surprises from you good luck to you in the new season. thank you for finally getting there. i think we had a really fun chat. thank you big one again. thank you, the conversation turned out, in general, as 1 minute flew by unnoticed, a lot of topics touched on some interesting ones. i'm in a stupor. you

introduced me, but in general yes, very cool, a good project. thank you. hello, my name is dmitry bagh and i invite you to a literary podcast. let them not speak. let them read. today we have an amazing program, because it is dedicated to space, we read in space. we are talking about this, what is space for modern civilization for modern culture. we understand, we always remember that is space for russia what is april 12 to our country, and i'm getting ready for this program. i even thought that our studio is similar to the iss, there are no windows in it. i learned before the program, that

the portholes are watching the earth about it. we 'll talk today. i even think that if we all concentrate, then weightlessness will come. well, at least from our conversations this flight should be accessible. especially with such wonderful guests who are with me today in the studio - this is oleg viktorovich novitsky, pilot of the cosmon of russia, deputy the commander of the cosmonaut detachment who has been in space three times, this is vyacheslav lvovich klimentov, the main guardian, deputy director of the museum of cosmonautics, and this is vasily andreevich vladimirsky book reviewer, connoisseur of accurate fiction, co-founder of the award for the best science fiction work, the award is called new horizons. hello, the most important thing. it seems to me that e cosmos is there is something decorated with a root, because we forget it is the same as that of cosmetics. but it is

so, despite this. uh, superficial like the meaning of the word cosmetics. this is a means of decoration among the greeks. chaos was undecorated space, not orderly, dark and incomprehensible, and the cosmos was that which was decorated, ordered, divided into rubrics, and divided into stars into comets into rays, probably, there was some great meaning in this and let's start a conversation, of course. from the cosmonaut, of course, from the legendary oleg navitsky, how did it happen that you became an astronaut and did literature play any role here, maybe science fiction, maybe ivan efremov, maybe something else and indeed. since childhood, i have always been attracted to some open spaces, because somewhere up to the eighth grade of high school. for some reason, while living in belarus, i always dreamed of being a seafarer. i read

them, in my opinion, to write a powerful two-volume makarevich, like a guy came to the merchant fleet, but nevertheless he reached the captain of a sea voyage. i lived with this thought for quite a long time and only, probably, after the eighth grade, when my cousin entered the borisoglerod school, the famous school. yes i said about life foreign exchange cadets. here in all these kind of childhood dreams. for some reason, i drastically changed my mind about my future profession and decided to become a military pilot and began to prepare intensively. i was a little short of height and stretched out on the horizontal bar. i ran a lot, but there are somehow some restrictions on growth. you need to be tall, there must be some kind of middle gender, i don’t remember the standards of the military registration and enlistment office, but i can’t help but reach the lower stick, so literally in a season over the summer and stretched out very well borisoglerodnoe school. unfortunately, then through the reduction in the nineties.

i changed three schools, continued my studies, who through speeches finished zakachenskoe and then served first in krasnodar, then borisoglebsk and budyonnovsk for a very long time, that he was looking for a regiment from a position as a commander , i left for the gagarin academy, he is here in the moscow region and calmly studied promoted its military professional level of the air force academy, the famous beautiful and before the release of scales to us representatives of the cosmonaut training center arrived, gathered the entire flight crew and said that this year a cosmonaut detachment was being recruited. and you were already in some kind of military rank. don't be too late. well, as gymnastics was enough, maybe it's too early to blame. yes, i was, in my opinion, 32-33 years old. it was a good age to continue a military military career. so when they suggested that those who wished to go through, hang up this cosmonauts, i naturally agreed to write a report on the passage for some reason. i thought that, naturally, i could put you next to such great people. how do we like gagarin leonov in titov volynov? what year was this? it was 2006. well, to be honest,

i should have gone to clear my history, that i made an attempt. i could not put myself on the same level with such people. and just in a month. i passed the selection, and i was recognized as fit. here is the selection of this cosmonauts. nevertheless, they said, thank you beneficial. i say what to do next? can go to my unit to serve further i'm on i went back to budyonnovsk for half a year, and from there , by order of the minister of defense , star city was transferred, document went on, and then you already got to star city. yes, this is a legendary place. well, after all, did you read something about space at that time or, uh, it was somewhere off to the side. you were a pilot, yes, literature about military aviation and read a lot of adventure literature. well, tell me, but besides e knowledge of technology, in addition to the physical data of health, but here's some other worldview. i mean, not ideology there, but, well, something needed, what do you think? then? well, some idea of ​​the distant. eh,

space. you wanted to be a seafarer . well, is it still you, or is it just the technique and but no, i think it’s still at the end. yes, also take into account, because how much a person is motivated. that's it for his profession. this is correct. yes, it's not easy to become a famous astronaut, to be on faith in newspaper strips. yes, somewhere the last column is in the front page on channel one and it turned out to be new. i'm not into this i never tried to get it a little, but still. i understand that we need to do the same in order to tell our students there to schoolchildren, just people, what we do , because now a little bit of information has been curtailed. guys space - is it romance or work? everything still somehow works. it's a romantic romantic job, well fine, that is, your dreams come true as a matter of fact. well, essentially. yes. the only thing, perhaps, is still in the number of flights

and how much time is allotted for this. well, three flights. this is not enough. this is not enough. yes, but with us in total you spent in space, well, almost a year a year in space. that's all yes, i feel right next to you, as well as our other guests. thank you very much. well , now my question is to vyacheslav klimenkov vyacheslav lvovich please tell me, is there probably some kind of dynamics? yes, that's what 's been happening lately. e with those who comes to the museum, what do they want to see space takes after all, well, a few other places. oleg and i were just talking about this. well, not that every release of the program starts with shots, salute, 6, how was it? that's what people want, what are they interested in when they ask me? well, here we are, uh, touched the descent vehicle. and you made a remark to us. so what happened? i say nothing and even if i touched 100 more people, nothing will happen. and even thousands

of nothing. but there is something like yesterday we took our museum 2.800 people, and on saturday we had one ticket each, and on saturday we had. 3,200 people in the museum, just imagine 3,200 touch, and you need to save. yes, not for a year, not for two for a decade of the century, these are muscovites. these are children, these are adults. these are the guests of the capital, they are foreigners, but now it is difficult. but in general, who is this right at the root, look? uh-huh interest, huge even not only space, i would say astronautics, yes, that is, to people who make devices for people who actually pilot the devices experiments. in space. very interesting. uh, different family people, a lot of family people. yes, there are a lot of schoolchildren, a lot of those who came. just come here to relax very small foreigners. and i 'll tell you more, while here are some interesting numbers. we are already accepting 10% more than before the pandemic

. that is, you have already come out perfectly without foreigners. but still, what is the museum's setting for some kind of interactive? ecogenic opportunities to join or display relics. i prefer some of these, but not in advance i will say. what do you know, well, i guess roughly what you prefer, because you are a museum man and a museum of a literary museum and an interactive literary museum, of course, so far from speech and relief, which, in general, it is impossible to see anywhere else, we descent the apparatus. we have five of their descent vehicles, we have the legendary belka and strelka, which proved the legendary dog, who then lived 10 years of life, had puppies there, and so on, that life in space is possible in space, we have a spacesuit. yuryevich gagarin, we have a spacesuit in which, uh, a psychological duplicate in which alexei arkhipov still went into outer space alexei leonov from the city of kemerovo where he spent seven years

of his life, as it all sounds to us alexei arkhipovich, he always liked to tell the same story that uh, when i am 14 there was a choice of who to become. and i painted very well, painted pictures, all to be an artist, but also dreamed of being a military pilot, and we met in the family and it turned out. so, i have a lot. in a military school , four meals a day, a military school was given a uniform, you were a school. discipline and i decided all the same we decided i became a military pilot, a great artist, and we have a very large collection, more old work, always a picture or a superman is beautiful in our museum. we have already moved on to art , and for good reason, of course, leonov is a wonderful artist, and with his paintings, he works on the polarization of space no less than with the legendary stories about pavel

belyaev's first spacewalk. as we remember, again , this is pavlovich belyaev elixir leonov, these are all the names that my generation knew by the names, patronymics of these people. oh even at night wake up, we would e pronounce it. well, i turn my question. e to vasily vladimirsky and hmm let's talk about art. or rather, literature. still, the cosmos is what is around us or what is in the art? or what's inside of us, and if here's briefly still somewhere the point where it starts, uh, hmm modern silesfiction. of course, one can say that plato had fantasy in atlantis and in perea and kratl and lucian and samosata and daniel defoe and where in russian literature prince odoevsky udostoevsky, yes , a funny person is with her, but still here is the twentieth century, how much it depends on the science fiction of the 20th century

depended on real discoveries, because in parallel there were frosts balche tsiolkovsky those who have already directly said that, gentlemen? it is possible, as it all began with literature. well, you know, here's what you started with the classics practically in the sense of the word in which they are generally used by the classical classics, uh, and uh, the authors of the new time. the authors of the 19th century, they generally asked. it seems to me a certain vector and space for writers of that period that era of those eras - this is something, more something better than the earth, that is, this is some kind of ideal. yes, some, i would say even a place where they revolve and grow, uh, all sorts of different utopias, the world mind of the world. yes uh. well, starting with the fact that

this one here, the period of rotation of the moon is 12 times longer than with the aversion of the earth, and therefore on the moon since ancient times it was believed that everything is 12 times better, 12 times more, 12 times perfect. and it seems to me that this is largely preserved in the science fiction of the 20th century. she is very diverse. means, extraordinary. that is, uh, someone used cosmic expanses like these entourage for adventurous adventures of literature for someone for dystopias for dyscopia in order to show how where humanity can go to some where you don’t have to go, yes these most despotic dystopian worlds were also transferred to other dystopian planets. these are our internal terms. but uh. well, actually dystopia dystopia is practically the same thing, but we will say dystopia for a good better understanding. here, uh, and. eh, still very e people, e in the 20th century. at least. well

, probably until the fifty-seventh year, until the moment when the actual cosmos humanity finally broke through, really broke through. in the same year, as we remember, antonovich efremov's novel fog from andromeda came out in the fifty-seventh year. he came out in the technique of youth, then a separate novel, as a separate book, was repeatedly retaken by the most popular magazine of youth technique technique, again my million circulation millions of copies and strove into space, like uh to something better bigger so uh to something perfect. yes, but when it started, that maybe there was even some kind of looking back at literature. i mean, we already know a little about it. yes, perhaps, perhaps, they looked and somehow evaluated the work of the same ancient authors. the same ones are still up to the berjarak. uh, edgar poe jules defoe is right. well, right? it's already here. as a matter of fact, it’s probably true with jules, it’s possible almost ours. yes, you can keep

a record of science fiction as we know it perfectly. as you remember, we lived faithfully, landing on the moon never happened, that is , it happened, but already in the second volume and the second book of his a about the shelf a and e, the main goal is the main task. uh, heroes from pushkin moon. yes, yes, yes, it's just uh, well, make some travel proof. yes pick up speed to show how it happens to prove that it is possible, that is, first of all. uh, it's still at the center of technology. yes, this is where human science begins. then you know, i wrote my thesis. uh, i rarely think about it, but you know about it, because we, too, in a sense we belong to the same workshop with vasily. i wrote my thesis the rest of the weaknesses. and i corresponded with him. this is absolutely great eh, a man in his later years. he was very against technogenic evolution, not

controlled by such an american, and that 's solaris 361 is correct. most probably, the famous roman of the sixty-first year thanks to tarkovsky. although they had their own contradictions, lem e, denied what the film denied, but the film and the book say differently in the film he had a fight, as always, yes there was a conflict. well, anyway, in this example it is very evident that when this flight cosmos, so much desired by mankind for millennia, took place i was born in the sixty-first year, therefore, i feel like the same age as the space age. eh, then after all, there was some kind of looking back at literature . and this confirms our thesis that the cosmos is not only stars, but the cosmos is both what is in us and what is in art and now we will have a traditional middle. e our under