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it seems to have flown away, everything seems to be fine and there is such a rumble in the hall, what happened? that suddenly means, from behind the scenes. some man comes out, approached koptev. he said something to him, flakes, he burst, he said, well, now i can congratulate, that means, uh, module. uh, the whole system is alive, it's open, it's manageable. he is the same, then it turned out that after the first orbit they could not lay the control program for the next one to increase the orbit. eh, and only after two turns they invested in him for it and he immediately began she was reported to him about this, and now the copte said that everything was fine. it also filled up, because the rapture was such a hall, which is simple, because everyone already thought they were scratching their heads. i think everything was lost, they filled up the first module of the iss. and, by the way, this year and 25 years it was the very first module
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of the international space world that was still flying. yes, literally. in a year. yes, it was flooded. yes, that's what you think. uh, should have kept flying the world or really. i believe that this decision was the only correct one. the fact is that 15 years the world flew off, having exceeded the calculated resources by 2 1/2 e times by five. and there they really started with the irreversible processes that they encountered, well, the first cool ones are, uh, the 23rd expedition of qibli put together, where they have there. almost the entire expedition was from them regular situations, and then all this went on and leaks and, uh, short circuits and so on, that is, every year the cost of maintaining this complex in orbit in a state began to increase; this reduced the scientific productivity of the cosmonauts. this is the first option second option. that we, in principle
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, had a project of our mira 2 station, but at the then state of the country's economy, we would not have pulled it alone, that is, this is the same second station, right? well, it’s not exactly the same , of course, it’s changed and that’s it, but according to the principle of the module, it’s the same cost for the same modules, that is, it’s hmm economically. we wouldn't pull it up. this is the second argument, and the third argument is that we are on the world er very well. uh, they implemented space e-commercial activities, that is, tourists began to fly there, they began to fly americans who began to pay money and so on. and the americans at the same time were developing their own station, which for 10 years in cooperation from all over europe with japan, uh , invested a lot of money in it, but they did not start this business in any way. but in the
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end they would have started and then practically half the world. most of half the world. i would go there, and even if we could build something of our own, we would not be able to earn any money on it, and so on. that is, we would not be able to, uh, conduct international cooperation, so yuri nikolayevich koptev and uh, yuri pavlovich semyonov went to the states and suggested that the americans use the backup of our base unit as an e-fgb. uh and around him just when they offered, uh, his possibilities and so on. uh, the station started, after all, our modules in gb and zarya they are still the largest at the station. americans in gb - this is a functional cargo block that is charging our main service module. yes, these are two large modules, which, in principle, could become the second station in the world, 2. but as i understand it, for money, well, if there was an economic
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support of the state, which was not, as it were, considered to be part of the russian segment of the russian, but it is american registered for the americans. well, well, i would note that until now the iss is huge now, but our modules are the largest in 22 tons, not a single american european module of such a mass has science flew recently. this is the last module of our our experience. well, yes, now until the twenty-eighth. yes, they have already signed, well, now it’s up to 28. although i think it’s up to the thirtieth, because, again, the americans. uh, they have already signed contracts for the supply of their own. cosmonauts until the thirtieth year and on ships and cargo and manned and the japanese, that is, everyone is already planning until the thirtieth. i think that ours will also agree to the thirtieth, but in this case it is also beneficial for us, because now we are developing a project. this is
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the end of the preliminary design. e new station that will fly over the poles. and over the entire territory of our country. this is also the first time. yes, that's to design. uh, before the first launch just it will be, uh, the same 5 years, so that we don’t have a break in manned flights , so that there is no disruption in the production of spacecraft, so that there is no disruption in the training of astronauts so as not to destroy this is what we are now working and working very good. and we continue our conversation with igor marin, an expert in the space industry. but the americans have already circled the state of the moon of mars. well i mean unmanned moon. come on, it's the americans that's on the artemis one program which we don't participate in. yes, we do not participate.
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well, here, uh, such a slightly political question, because it's one thing when we participate in parity, and another thing when we uh, we were offered to be contractors for the manufacture of one part for the american artemis program, that is, not on equal terms . uh, not at all on an equal footing, namely to be contractors. for god's sake let them order us, we will make them, but we are not participants in this program. we are contractors, we have done something or we will do something, here is another option. uh, we now have uh with the chinese hmm signed road map. on the exploration of the moon in this map. as far as i know , our unmanned variants of automatic stations are combined with their unmanned variants and they, uh, just last week. e, for the first time
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at one of the exhibitions inside their china , they showed outlines of their prototype of an expedition to the moon, and e, as part of this project. we should start cooperating with them. here but why are we flying to the moon, the question is, if earlier it was a purely political decision , the americans wanted to show that after losing with the first satellite with the first astronaut with the first woman with the first group flight. they wanted to show that they could do something; in 1962 they set themselves the task of landing on the moon. they did it, but they canceled three trips to the moon, they did six, and they canceled three because there was nothing to do. yes, it's expensive. how many 300 kg the stones brought , they brought nothing special from them, but at the end of the 20th century they found signs of a large amount of this moon
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, despite the fact that there is no atmosphere and so on. and that means that there is no need to carry water there. this means that its electrolysis decomposes water into oxygen and hydrogen oxygen for breathing hydrogen for engines for energy. that is, it greatly reduces the cost of work on the surface of the moon further, since there is a lot of water there, it means that it can already be done there by 90%. so, because now it remains only to scoop up this very soil and explore it. and this is exactly what our automatic station luna 25 will do, which will land for the first time in the region of the south pole, take soil from here and see if there is water and so on, but it's not about the water. just, uh, water and water. well , you can get it there, but in fact, what we have is a big problem, it turns out
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on earth with various materials, in particular rare earth metals and metals. platinum class they are in the next 30-40-50 years on earth, their resources will almost run out, and on the moon they appear to have hit the moon with the help of meteorites. moreover, the meteorites crashed, and the surface and this is not necessary to dig, mines. it doesn't have to make a big career. you just need to collect it from the surface and choose what we need here these rare earth metals and the platinum group. there are quite a few of them, and secondly, the resources of the moon are replenished, because meteorites are still falling on it. in our country, they burn up in the atmosphere and nothing remains on the earth, but they fall on the moon and in this way these resources are replenished, so the point is, in 30-40-50 years, to bring from the moon
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these materials that are not enough on earth, which will end. on earth, it makes sense, so everyone seemed to pay attention to the moon now, after a very long break in the americans, there was such an idea that after they finish the iss program , transfer some private hands to someone and sell it, who will monitor it, and thereby develop it. ah, space tourism. how do you look at it? e. well, i see this as a positive question. only here there are a lot of difficulties that are very difficult to overcome . the fact is that, well, the station can be shot down by those modules that are outdated and can be built up with modules. which the americans will already commercially make structures to maintain it. but who will manage them, that
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the ground structures of nasov will manage commercial station. if they pay to work, it's like how much will it cost? i don't know, that's all, and the resource of all these stations and so on. that is, it's not just generally cheap, how much does a ticket cost? well, i don’t know already there, 50 million. it’s already exceeded a long time ago. well, yes, by 80 i already washed it. yes, and even musk does not reduce the price, as far as i know the popularity. yeah, at the same time, it's uh. hmm popular, but not commercially viable. that is, it pays off a little, but it does not pay off. uh, all the costs, and the state, of course, is more profitable to give. it's in private hands and let them do what they want, and to invest money themselves, that's in the same artemis. well, in general, with this one from artemis, they are also not doing well. they still have not approved, for example, the project of the
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lander, and before uh, their announced landing is 3 years away. that is, they have all this with spacesuits, which on the surface, by the way, are also one thing to go out in a spacesuit and take a walk on the surface. there are even several hours or days, but it’s another thing to work constantly, because the features of e lunar dust. it's like rubbing on sandpaper , for example, that is, it penetrates everywhere, and it has sharp edges, and therefore practically everything, and they don't know how to overcome it. it's only the moon. and mars i'm not talking anymore. although we can say, here, too, about mars, look, you flew. yes, each cosmonaut consumes about 3 liters of water per day at the station. yes, we can for three people 9 liters of water per day per month for 7 months there, 7 months
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back and for six months. at least there, well, regeneration should be with a return. well 50% you are unlikely to generate more, because it is water that will go to get oxygen. yes, that's right, well, at best, 50 is according to my estimates, it turns out somewhere tons, only three of one water is needed for this flight for three people. and plus food, and plus consumables, and plus clothes for a year and a half there for almost two, and so on and so forth. i mean, it's an incredible thing. and besides, after all, it's impossible to replenish. if now something happened in orbit, some kind of malfunction, something is not missing sent by cargo ship and so on. and you can't send anything there. so all all stocks need to be carried with you not for sure.
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i think the defense in which you took part, by the way, is interesting about this experiment on the material that you are developing, which was tested according to the tradition of a special protective composite . i took the first readings no longer showed that really. he works. it is possible that there will be a different type. that is, it will even be possible to have a type of fabric, that is, to make clothes for astronauts will be the second stage. well, we hope that it will be put on display. eh, into outer space and we will look. uh, how does this material behave in an open braid. well, when exposed to a temperature difference, radiation is everything else. well, until now, the problem with radiation protection has not been solved, not solved. that's why you need to fly quickly in order to pick up less well, but for this you need engines of a newer generation, well, either protect yourself with modern engines to fly longer. that's what you think, that's, uh,
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everyone's talking now, of course. allah yes, this is not only, let's say, american, it is already some kind of world leader who invests money, and everything works out for him. fucking build his new ships. now, if someone in russia we can have such a person who i don’t know, a businessman, a good engineer korolev was fortunately with mashka. probably world happiness, here he has developed the directions that you spoke, then he is a businessman. that is, he is very great own resource. after all, he has now once again become the richest man on the planet. it doesn't mean he has, uh, a room full of money. this invested everything works, and everything still gives profit, and he can take it and invest it in what he wants, the second is with him. uh, since childhood, a passion for space, you know? that is, it is fanaticism to do something in this direction. well,
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the third expensive. a hobby is an opportunity. e possibilities. so i figured, though, i thought back in november that in the united states, if you remove the mask, then according to gost programs , state-owned missiles were launched. there were eight launches in total, eight in a year with us. superfluous, and they have eight, if you remove the mask at all, that is, he practically took eight-tenths of the launch on himself, took it on himself. we don't have that yet. now there is. uh, there is a company that makes satellites, for example, and this year there will be a launch, there are the next nine satellites, for example, here, that is, uh, there is a private business, but it is not at the wrong level. uh, is that how you think we'll fantasize? how do you see a man in space in 50
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years? uh, i'm afraid to be an optimist, because korolev was an optimist and thought during his lifetime that cosmonauts would fly to both the moon and mars. as a result , more than half a century has passed. after he was gone, we did not fly to the moon or mars. the americans have not flown anywhere for 50 years either. so there are somehow optimistic dreams, uh, forecasts and uh, real-life achievements. they somehow don't fit together, so i think i 'll be more pessimistic about it. a probably on the moon there will always be international bases that will be explored. e and experiment. you're mining and delivering to land. here are these rare earth metals, whose resources on earth will end. and
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it will be in 30 years, in 20 or in 50, it's hard to say, but this way is mm. well, we just don't have any other way, besides, i really hope that, uh, when the flight to the moon for 50 years. it will definitely become more or less regular. on the far side of the moon, they will build it. uh, the telescopes that a radio telescope that can scan space, uh, and be isolated from the interference, uh, emitted by terrestrial civilization and so . it will be another breakthrough. here's how hubble made the breakthrough. yes, so we, we, or some earthlings, uh, can make, uh, in radio astronomy, here is the same breakthrough by eliminating these interferences, which now make it very difficult to single out. uh, external signals to filter out this
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noise that creates the earth. so without this, there is also nowhere to go, but, of course , environmental problems must be solved on earth, otherwise none of this will simply happen. because i don't know how much. uh, temperature rises critically. uh, the average temperature of the earth's surface, how critically it will affect the climate, respectively, the production of earthly life on the earth can be, uh, now the temperature will go up sharply, there will be a flood , an earthquake, and that's it. and here it is not up to space, in general it will be difficult to say, but here is the way to space. he, of course, for the resources of the moon, the former of all, not mars mars i think the next 50 years undercooked. well, what are we learned this point of view on our future. uh, we had a very interesting conversation with a real specialist in the space industry
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, igor marinin, this is a hint of space stories and i am anton schicklerov. the creative industry podcast on channel one is still hosted by elena hyper clip maker and producer and roman pockets, media manager and general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives, and our guest is a magnificent couple acting family egor beroev and ksenia alferova hello. hello, yes air a 15 minute discussion about titles. she, by the way, also terribly captures me, because, uh, in general, the definition of the creative industry has arisen. oh , three or four years ago. then
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no one knew anything about him at all, and to be honest, because. i said lena, i'm a media manager. i generally worked in the media, which has always considered itself a separate industry, generally speaking , just like in the general film industry and industry. in general, any other, and then in the end everything, in general, is not so. here, i 'm listening to you all of a sudden, why do i have everything words of your name? you just need to explain to the viewer why there was a discussion, the discussion began with the fact that i said that i did not understand, not a single uh, well, like a word from the name, what it means, that it does not evoke an associative series in me. for example, i just understand that now, uh, this trend is not only our country of the whole world, but everything has turned into an industry, turned into an insta. to the industry. the word creativity is withdrawn from this process with terrible force even at the school level. i don't know about the kindergarten. maybe she stayed me just yesterday talked with teachers in geek. for example , if we are talking about the film industry, and these are
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nightmares, horror. it's real horror nightmares soaking up the actors, like uh. well, i mean, now it's come down to the industry, to the money , to the ratings. that is, there is absolutely stamping, that is, there is no soul in it. and this is so contrary to the general spirit of our country and the spirit of what we did. because creativity implies, in a good sense, chaos, such a kind of creative disorder, when it is not there, when everything is berucrotic, and now everything everything is extremely bureaucratized, then creativity disappears , then for the sake of what all this was created in general, there remains a bare industry that no one needs and the audience does not need it, and i know this for sure, because i have been there for 7 years, as we found out already. lately, i just can't count. and i'm not in this sense of non -industrial creative people do not want to count, so they refuse to be in the industry. allah as far as people i am 7 years old. i have an author's project there, which did not start for the industry, not for money, but for the sake of ideas and needs of my personal
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human, yes, in a conversation in a dialogue in order to read, i don’t know to talk about what people are interested in, called literary gatherings. all. here, i just know, that's what people tell me and how much they miss the non-industry from creativity. well, as if alive, my burning eyes of texts, and whose writers and poets show creative talented people who are not in the industry, you understand, which i will tell , then, due to the fact that creative industries have appeared. ah, i've come to understand that, generally speaking, it must be supported somehow with money, because, in general, there is no creative industry, music. uh, it certainly cannot develop without conditions, you need to invest money in it. give people tools and equipment. this means that the conditions in the regions are the same. now many schools of the creative industry have appeared in many schools , which, in general, in our opinion, can you imagine such good houses
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for children's creativity, in which there are good tools, good ones. they exist too even in a parallel reality. they will already be creative people, because these are professional institutions in which people are given the opportunity to learn at a very good level in order to realize themselves later in these same industries. well, in general, something good too. curtains or how creative sounds great too. yes? i started my project without any conditions. that's from the word completely and without money. i just needed it very much, i was burning inside. and this is a necessary element of creativity. if i was entered somewhere or given the opportunity. i'm not sure that even this would turn out the way it did, that is, there would be no soul in it. well, let's say, 25 years ago in the city of vladivostok on the guitar, for example, and there was a huge number of groups. yeah, from which excellent musicians of the creative industry could grow now, then there was no one invested in any instruments. no one gave
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amateur performances to musicians of these conditions. nobody invested in revolutionary bases, means festivals and so on. what happened in the end? in the end, they all intertwined and died. now, if there were a creative industry then, that conditions didn’t exist. in which i tell 7 years about poets writers to all of us. and those who have never created any conditions, but they definitely have a yellow lantern , definitely a talent supported by their parents there by someone else, you need to support it at some point, but embedding it into the system means killing the talent. this is how you say more than that, in the beginning there was a word in the beginning there was the word is very important, how and what you call it cannot be a creative industry, it seems that the industry, that is, a person who enters the creative industry. uh, how to say it, so as not to disrupt our dialogue with new concepts , yes, but in the creative field he must understand that he will have an implementation and not just a point yes, some kind of separate implementation, but
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that there is an industry that accommodates much there are more creative people than some kind of exclusivity, when it has its own creative, so you say, yes, tsvetaeva akhmatova, do you have a performance now? yes, but they are one second and that's it. listen to what far to go. i mean in this. a certain bohemianity cannot be, they cannot be certainly called turkish blue , we can also list directors in our dotted actors. uh, there aren't any theatrical movies, maybe. they cannot robotize develop. this is impossible. let's take an example of the work of the creative industry with the film turkish gambit, which was the result of a work of fiction, first. second, uh spectacular spectacular cinema, then inside the music that has become popular, which means that there are a lot of these terms, which are all parts.
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these are the most creative industries, without which this film and the magnificent actor arose. so just because yes there was a point magnificent actor, a point remarkable director point, and wonderful composers, not 35 such identical things do not happen. this is then digitalization and ro. bototechnics, that is, just insert the program. e in robots, and they will now already try to do it. we are interested he says it is a very dangerous trend, what you are talking about is not good now, that is , i am telling you, but let's prosper, let's say, yes, what about the premiere. here on march 17 i had the premiere of the play, which was born from my literary gatherings, i took the liberty of it. uh. rather, it happened. i did not take myself so bold as to be in one person, that is, the author of the actress and director. so it turned out that i had to and it turned out very well in the end. and here egor was e says that from
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the audience no, it's just that you don't live. this is the one i'm burning for, that's why people's eyes light up and my main task was to sit there, when now it's a performance, just a performance - this is a form more. well, as if bright, when you can tell some things to influence even brighter. yes, it means light and something else, uh, not the industry, due to dima, who is a very good color artist and studied pointwise and pointwise with such an individuality, may not agree. it's all about people. first of all, you can individually set a bunch of instruments, and no one will play them, egor chem you are you doing? today filming tv series film what what what is happening now, where in what part of the industry? now now, in fact, they incarnate themselves in many ways and there are also about the fund. i would also like to talk, yes, that and so on, uh from a professional point of view. here's what's being prepared. i am still an actor. uh, i work in
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the cinema sometimes in the theater, but rarely. but i 'm going to make a movie, which means a new anesthetic. that is, e is a new director. that is, this is some kind of already passed experience, a director's experience. no such no such say it is the need of the soul. yes, if everything works out, when we see go, well, it's hard to say the shooting. i think you need to start filming at the end of 2020 or early 2020, which is, yes, probably, yes, that is, this is the beginning from the beginning of work to the final product. i think that for two years you are based on some material, this is a book that captured. no, this is original. the story is based on in general really real events. eh, life, i saw that yegor
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supports the gatherings very literary and even participate. yes, that is, these are poetic contexts and form. and yes, here, that is, you have a lot of family supports. yes? no, gatherings now people will understand that this is poetic? i just wanted people to not understand. what is gathering it's not not, well, not it's a poetic touch. this is such a monologue, actually about a living person, after which people come out and rush to the bookcase and open it. uh, hmm the books of this or that poet writer that we are telling. this is my task, and it is performed by yegor in this case, as an actor participates in this or as a sub-producer once he was as a playwright. it can be said, it looks different, who the nurse he painted the backdrop is very cool. this is because he draws very well. uh, if i do an online broadcast, then he carefully monitors what people ask to be
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online behind the scenes. all of you and egor read it was the very beginning, yes, before i became it, that is, the beginning was not without er-frames and mountains. these are the first two two. gatherings were moms, then yegor was yes, well, how to take into account the authors, in fact, they were these, uh, evenings, two films we released this year, where we play husband and wife. well, how do you think about it, and on the site, nevertheless. there are a lot of fruits, but people do not need them. and the fund. do you have how is how? well, not people live together and do one thing together in different ways in different ways. basically, i am his r. if we are talking about the background, then he is a creative
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money generator. i mean, not my money, but the most. well, that is, all ideas they are well that is, there are a lot of ideas and go, how to implement these ideas, but if there are no funds , i’m talking about the fund back now, and it was created. as i understand it, in order to finance specifically, yes, that is, to attract resources. or something. or there was some kind of philosophy at the core, of course, philosophy. this fund, says parafinancing. better. yes, the fund deals with people with mental disabilities downs syndrome accidents yes, i am called uh. our main, probably, motto is we learn to live together, we succeed. we want these people lived with us in society. we believe that they have the full right
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to benefit our society. it’s just that in soviet times they were locked up in a boarding school and were not given the opportunity to be with us in cafes in theaters there to play on stage, and not just in separate such societies, but namely , to be integrated into our society, as it is in other countries, they need in a certain way, that is, to help with specialists there . yes, the foundation informs the society about such people and takes care of such people. here, uh, here from childhood and further already to adults up to you mean, if it is not curative, we do not treat children, because us children do not need treatment. they that is, they need rehabilitation in some kind of socialization. and in principle, that is, when we summed up the results, we realized that and it was. one of our first such tasks. one of the main informing is what yegor said, that right now this is it. at what level is informing? how about it, how do they talk about it? how many people talk about this, where
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they talk about this merit of our foundation. that is this is when we came then 10 years ago eleven already and other sites. we lean no informing - that's me. can i do it before. well, now i can tell for sure. this is me, that is, plus organizations that, well, even before, long before their emergence. eat like ants. here is an employee in moscow and 17 in rostov-on-don, i am directly the director of this fund. we are not the faces of the foundation, and, as it were, its creators are the creators of the grappers, the creators, but rehabilitation through creativity. e, including different how does e work, the mechanism of direction huge amount. do you realize that there are a lot of things to do there? i mean, how does creativity work during rehabilitation. how effective it is, very very we have a lot of workshops. e, including, there is a recording studio and music workshops and
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art and tailoring workshops, where such guys have the opportunity to learn how to write songs, learn how to play musical instruments, the art of sculpting wonderful things from clay. and this is a great opportunity for their implementation. and how would they find these talents in themselves and they through this syndromes given by the concepts of people, in principle, and children with autism autism right here, uh, thanks to this, they are pulled out so much by their pedagogy. well, how would it be out of them that we , uh, pedagogy periodically send us reports on how, how it is, as on the example of a particular child? how it happens here is such an amazing change there are a few girls with autism there and just very straight up huge huge breakthrough breakthroughs of staying in moscow
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we have this kind of, uh, centers in rostov in rostov we have uh hmm here are 17 teachers. and these, in my opinion, are two big offices there, as far as information is concerned. excuse me, i just hosted for a very long, very long time, a volunteer program on the radio over a radio station, which is just, uh, that is, our guests are the foundations of the organization no. these are the founders. yes, yes, it’s strange that we didn’t meet there at the wrong time, but this is not about that, but about the fact that, well, you can endlessly inform and try to personally drag. and you can shoot, for example, a kind of movie. as in general, there anton is nearby conditionally. yes, at some point, yes, yes, that's absolutely, so the topic went, yes. yes, they released it. still, it went still, it struck. some kind of gap, still there in the minds of people and so on. well, uh, you somehow use it all now or something like this for 11 years, but from
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the point of view of the industry, i already don’t know the hero from a person there is, uh, not a single documentary film, and they also won at international and at our festivals a very good film. i dream of making friends, a wonderful film, i really need money to to make a sequel to this movie that we have. it's a story about guys making cartoons in film college. children with autism. yes, but it's amazing and we have directors yuliya sapogo, who is very immersed in this topic, and she just eats it and she has a great team. so far, i don't think they've found it yet. yes, given that i have already come up with the series there as much as possible and the programs have been made for five million. yes, think it should become popular. yes, of course, it does become one way or another, that is we are not the author. i mean, and here is anton , there is a wonderful movie nearby, which we
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once used in all possible ways, that is, we took them out to the regions. that is, we showed agreed agreed in cinemas. there vanakh region. not only did they gather a hall in the cinemas of vladimirskaya, they discussed students were invited there, but, for example, just why, including us, about our guys, yes, directly, whom we know and raised one of them there, we can say we are filming, because everything is still there. well, kinda autistic the spectrum is very large, that is, it depends on the specific different, like any person they are different. we continue the creative industry podcast on channel one today with you elena kiper and roman pockets and wonderful actors. actor's family. egor beroev in general this is about the heroes in our society, which are among completely different people. eh, i think it's very poor so far. in general, i present. by the way, the film, which is associated with
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the landing of the legendary georgia, is just one of the examples when they noticed a feat and, uh, his popularization, in general, is slowly growing, yes, there was a wave quietly, then now it is turning into a hero's stomatism. we also talked in person. and so on, but for some reason, for some reason, for some reason, it's all like this with us. in general, quite pointwise there is no gender filled with books about heroes. there, conditionally , we are at that point when we are supposed to approach this, just. we realize. how should it be next. we simply could not understand who the hero of our time was, before we had changes in society, political political and public civilians, we could not understand who the hero of the real heroes was, because there was confusion in the head and, uh, the society was very ready for compromises. now we have understood that there can be no compromises, that
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we must be determined, either we are at the same time or we are for something else and these heroes began to emerge. we must be beginning to understand who the real hero of our time is. uh, that the heroes of time are not there. hmm, not a director who is trying to bring dirt, vulgarity and humiliation onto the stage. and he does not become a hero, but a person becomes a hero who saved lives there before, we assumed this, but we could not decide for sure, because there were a lot of people, including actors and singers known there, who gave birth that there is a past. here is the depravity of this one like this, and often i had to abandon the trolls. uh, of course, in the script, of course, of course, and even now i still say five times more. can't afford it because he

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