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we wait there for mine and the clock is zero zero. look here. here, ah, that mikhail zakharovich, that you guys, uh, well, you can say you didn’t betray yourself, you didn’t betray your style. yes, they did not attach the music that you wanted to make and how you said that you were unformatted. guys , you can say that you are also kind of informal, because you kind of find here, we are all a little bit informal and some artists. they go out, they try, how to reshape themselves , to make external ones somehow, so that they look different writer, yes, music that just listen, yes, which is in the format, but uh, how better. still, choose popularity and make a format story, or still from the heart and your glory or your recognition, but you still get it sometime. well, in principle, for me it is better to be yourself. it seems to me that this is the most difficult thing, it will just be with you to find yourself and the brighter you will express yourself, the more
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popular you will be. it's your unique, it's not like everyone else. now it's so popular. oh sorry, popularity is a thing too. may be famous yes popular, maybe loved. it's very two. as they say in odessa , there are two big differences between loved ones, probably to be more important, because if people love you, they will never forget you, and popularity , it goes away, is worship of the wrong crowd, this is such a thing. you know she it's easy to lose a lot said wrong word, and you're already bad. but beloved ones, if you are beloved, if they want and wait for you, and they catch your every word. and then they will believe, even if something is wrong, they said, they did it wrong, because, well, everyone makes mistakes. well , a lot of artists. eh, they are looking for the secrets of this love of the people and i think you guys have a secret. here in your lyrics in melodies. everything is very accessible. everything is very close.
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i really want to add everything. here it is, please this topic, what is more important is to be happy, because you can have the love of the viewer. you can be popular. glory and they feel happy satisfaction does not feel and does not feel, well, here you are in your place. what is the secret of good, well, we just never adjust , we don’t set ourselves the task of pleasing someone , we just do it the way we want. as we like to implement in the form as we see it , you said what you have very closely. this is the origin of you, as musicians , was associated with music channels, that you, like , watched a lot, that you constantly have some kind of association song, yes, connected, as i understand it, with the beginning of your work. so tell me, what's the song? why not exactly? well yes, you are close uh, short uh, i remember when u we got a music channel at home, we had a tape recorder. uh, already hooked up to the tv. and as soon as there is some interesting song, we set to record this song our parents. e at one time played in restaurants
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and often followed the news. and this is the habit of writing down what you like there and generally follow. i think we have here from our parents. if you are what i remember, for one moment it was an online concert, right on the air, the rapper seryoga e, first appeared on tv and sang black boomer. i i remember my feeling. he seems to be reading treno. yes, he looks like a benchmark, but we hear boyan, we hear some kind of strings there, similar to a balalaika. and it was a wow effect that was not associated before. with something cool. yes, the accordion is some kind of folk, yes, and then let's, i'll help. i grew up as a non-working robber, a toothy kid, all simple and he is not handsome. yes, i drive the motor is not
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an obstacle. black boomer black boomer to signal lights black boomer black boomer if you can catch up, black boomer black boomer, waiting for the black dead, black boomer. well, this is actually such a revolutionary song it was 100%, of course, even i remember it very well, so i remembered, i called it e on the sports ditties channel. they sleep all over and for the pigs, then below us below. you
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forgive me, and then he says about love, yes , morning, this is my youth. this is my youth sound let's put it on the whole and the neighbors do not sleep below us below. forgive them, but my friend and aura says this is my youth. this is my youth, famously zakharovich. they would like you to do a cover, she's a guys song and do it in your style in chanson style. here, agree. agree. why numbers? i’ll just crush you now for this song i scored 200-34 million views, how much does it turn out in dc, if 10,000 each? a little less in dollars. four
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times the sound, let's put it all on and the neighbors do not sleep, who below us below you ask me, and then speaks of love, until the morning this is my youth. this is my youth sound let's put it on the whole and the neighbors do not sleep below us below. you forgive me, and then pray for love says, i stand until the morning, nastya is my youth. almost chanson michael zaharovich. i realized that you are generally okay with memes. you are in full trend so to speak. i now suggest that you create another trend for one of your very, very, very popular songs, since i am a leftist from rostov-on-don. this is my city, in general i have so many friends there and i go there so
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often. well, yes, either coast. don usually we trend with arms and don't need to dance. so i 'll sit right here. i will now explain the movement to you like this, and karina will take off from us and the internet will explode with a new trend. so we start left left. left coast. dona seagulls seagulls stretches. at zaton depict drove the left bank, i adore the seagull beach near the zaton and next to the whirlpools. they are unable to reach.
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likes guaranteed usually at this point in our program we e create something new, but since your songs are so soulful that they go from heart to heart, we decided to experiment with musical directions. first composition. michala, zakharovich - this is, uh, my favorite night guest, but we made it in the hip-hapa format. it must be read. how to repnut, yes, so it must be such that you are a guest of my neighbor
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daughter sleeps on sherry goritsy in a glass of cognac pour. and the dates continue with the new software of the court, but the neighbor is more expensive for these guests. i forgot the words you like. and this is yours at 00 hours. no, no, now at 00 hours i am older than nudity , my day has come. so, it would be necessary to gather my friends today
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; i'm kolyan, you neighbors do not sleep house. you forgive me, and then about love. this is my youth, this is in
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your style let's put it on the whole and the neighbors do not sleep. both of us are downstairs. you forgive me and then love says, until the morning this is my june youth. i turned the calendar over and again looked at your third you and again three of you, but why, but why did it come to us to part, after all, it was still september for us in earnest.
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and only the ringing of guitars carries away through the yards, but i'm all alone through the empty streets and in search of love, i don't know if the whole area will hear that i will fall in love with you and only carry guitars with god in the yards, but i'm with all this along the streets empty and in search of love, where i don't know. cindy i'm so quiet, but here it turns out music of course, everything is revealed, but in music it is much bolder. or you still perform yourself, play yourself, go, we play with a band.
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sometimes we have a chip when ivan sits down at the drum. it is extremely rare when they ask for a soul. uh, ivan takes the guitar. sometimes, too, very rarely i take it, but when we had a band for the first time , uh, we arrived in moscow . it was 2014. we are in moscow for the first time and we are going to the subway, a hidden number calls me. i am lifting they say there. hello. i say hello. he says, this is vasya, what kind of vasya he says, i'm basta's brother, the doctor called. and at that time we were making programs on youtube at that time. ivan showed, yes, just about himself, and i sent him a whole pack of bits to the post office. he just texted me. well, i wrote something and that's it, and then somehow we and somehow then the connection disappeared. well, of course we had a number on mine or there. and so he called back and invited me to the studio, and on the same day we immediately went to
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the station, moved to the opposite side and let's go and go to him there in the studio. it was in 2014, when no one knew us yet as musicians. what was this simple conversation about? he was just writing an album. i 've been watching how he does it. he asked some questions. it works fantastic when you want to know how to do something else. and this is how we met. uh , they asked each other some questions and without any purpose without some kind of commercial there to shoot a video there, i don’t know whether to sign a contract or get something. and here i am, even nowhere didn't tell me because uh, there still can't even seem like this story, as if hmm earning points for myself. here i will tell you how bast called me. uh, everyone wants to, like, get to know each other, make friends, right? and i have it myself but i did not want to use it, well, tell, because people, well, they may not take it the way it is. and now when we're already in the public eye, and it's hmm well it looks. otherwise, we want to invite you
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to our concert, in general we want everyone. yes november 6th. we would be very happy to see you true, i used to have the eighteenth of april. we would come. yes, i list you. my friends , you know what i wanted. here i am listening to you. i listen to stories. these are the stories of real men. this is the story of people who do not change themselves this story of people who lived their lives no matter who how old? yes, in life she is not in years, she is in decisions, and i still see such a moment that, firstly , it is spring in the yard, and we have these two beautiful ladies and i would like us to finally, how to say at the end of our program presented from all of us from the male team to our beautiful ladies a song by mikhail zakharovich. chorus of the song by mikhail zakharovich, for lovely ladies, of course. you hear, in general, not a single one, only a drum. i like all
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the women in the world blonde, brunette, i still confess, without throwing words to the wind, what i decided for myself. i have long been for lovely ladies for lovely ladies, my first fat. here and there without lovely ladies, without lovely, ladies, how to live a day for lovely ladies for lovely years, if you need heights, and today there were informal programs in the program wonderful artists, honored artist of the russian federation mikhail shufutinsky future honored people's artists of the russian federation group dobro my beautiful hosts karina formidable carnival group of amazing fate jeep yourself ben anton lavrentiev you are a podcast of information.
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watch good music in the informal format. bye bye. m sometimes it seems to you that everything is not going according to plan, but then you realize, and so even more interesting, since your school years you thought that love, but now everything is pouring out pain to me. you only need one thing, and if anyone left, it means it's not yours, and here we will grow up experience behind our backs. only those with whom i will fuck. here is the wind, in spite of an even step we keep. i behave with you, as yesterday we yelled songs, so we broke our voices and did not make plans in advance.
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again, behind the back of a backpack for buses , we didn’t know then what awaited us. how to ban me, then it was difficult for you, bottomless eyes , not to fall in love with unfamiliar places at night, long places, this again we must repeat. we need to repeat.
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with you, the podcast is a must-read. i am batnikov's main director and writer. today we are discussing the diary of maria bashkirtseva with my wonderful guests olga breininger - writer, literary tropologist, translator and vladislav gorodetsky writer, architect, diary of maria bashkirtseva. this is a well-known work. uh, a girl from 12 to 24 kept a diary, so to speak, from adolescence to death. and this is the end of the 19th century. uh , europe is an aristocratic russian daughter of a wealthy landowner who, uh, studies and spends time in europe, lives a stormy and secular life. uh, however, what is interesting to us, and in this diary and in this document why he enters
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the corpus of women's autofictional prose let's call it that in fact, whether he enters or not. that's a big question, because uh , after all, in the form of, uh, it's a diary entry. uh, how it differs from all previous diaries in that it was originally written for an outside observer for the reader. that is, he is not written for himself, but for others and the bashkirs - this is repeatedly emphasized. and what are the elements of e autofix e? because the bashkirs consider themselves a heroine. she straight she talks about this and describes herself, as if from the outside, she introduces herself into this text, like a heroine, like characters, and often abstracts into e, emphasizing that the author of these lines, of course, understands everything. but the heroine, there was a silly thing like that, that is, the element of the game she
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actually has from the very beginning. well , not that games, but some kind of appeal to the public appeal to the public. yes, he says that i intend to, but to take a photograph of my life, and he sets himself the task of being as honest frank. that is, this is a self-portrait. uh, and the authenticity of this self-portrait is hmm. maybe even some kind of ugliness. this is the condition of the game that the bashkirs set for themselves, we can say so. we can say so, but if we take into account a stands for the author himself, then we need to admit that this is not an autofish, but an autobiography, because autofiction is always a deliberate mixture of truth and fiction, and since bashkirsky declare that it will show herself the way she is, uh, ugly ugly in any situation, without trying to embellish yourself, then in
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general, if you follow one of the main definitions of autofix. uh, those should not be referenting, it turns out that the bashkirtsev does not non-autofiction does not agree. this can be perceived as her declaration of absolute truth and to the last word, as also an element of the auto-fictional narrative. she can be, uh, also part of uh, and the plot is part of the story. yes, i'm telling the honest truth, but in fact, you never know, she says we have no way to check. yes we have biography is such a frame. yes, in which we operate. eh, and even this text. uh, we're from the start. we can doubt its absolutely documentary. at least, because we, uh, don't get the exact dates of the heroine's birth. eh yes, the date of birth indicated in the first publications, the sixties, the year was
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not exactly the date. e bashkirs was born in the fifty-eighth year, because, and the mother after the death of her daughter. here the mother was engaged in the publication of the diary to edit, yes, and edited. and yes, she cut it. e life for a few years, so that fate seemed even more tragic for 2 years. yes, she hits the club 27 hits in 20 seconds, 27 - this is who jacket-wearing kurt cobain then pak shakur and ah and maria bashkirsky on animals. well, in general, she gets into great company to put it mildly, but here's what confuses me. and when she starts a diary, she is 11 or 12 years old, she is still quite transparent, and then at the age of 15-16. she comes back herself makes some edits and uh, then the idea comes to her that uh diary - this is her opportunity, and to show one woman's life. and this is her opportunity to
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become famous. that is, if you look at her trajectory there, the hero arc, then she has changed quite a lot. here is from 15 to twenty-five, and in the beginning she was driven by desire. what are you going to write about? does she write multiple times all the time? i want fame, i dream of being famous. this, by the way, makes her related to kurt cobein. it is said that he also signed that he wanted to be famous since his teenage years, and she tries all kinds of art. that is, she draws and sings. e, writes and it seems to me that at the initial stage, she is not just looking for herself. she is still looking for that path to glory yes, she remains an artist, but still it seems to me that we know her first of all, it is from her diary. well, probably about the artistic value of her paintings. i have to ask you, i want to talk about something about whether you, i think the best autofigure specialist in russia there is. today. you have lectures about maria
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of the bashkirs. tell us how you imagine her literary work, in some general context of this auto-actional prose. well i need to make a little clarification here, right? maria bashkirtseva is not included in the autofiction course, and i have a course on 19th century literature, the purpose of which was. well, to shake the canons a little bit to show that we have not only pushkin lermontov tolstoy dostoevsky, but also other women authors, yes, women and e lectures in all the main male writers were accompanied, but by short lectures by women. that is, i said, look, we have conditionally ah. turgenev chernyshevsky we also have bashkirtseva and liza dyakonova but this is a little different time periods. but since we have a structure after the bashkir one, it is even mentioned in your opinion and fixed.
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by the way, i am on the side of lisa the deacon and you in many ways. well, maria of the bashkirs was the first of this, but at the expense of the artistic work of the bashkirs and architects. you studied? e tell me how you rate. this is the breakthrough of the bashkirs to glory through painting, because their last years are the last 6 years. she quits social life, she stops hanging out, and uh, starts working hard from morning to night , literally, counting the hours she has. on the way to the studio. they move closer to the studio, so as not to spend 2 hours a day, because it's 48 days a year and it means that she is rapidly mastering the path from a student to a leader. e picturesque salons on a par with the pool or the page and other artists, it must be said that i am not an art critic. but if you trust the art they know, they report that
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it is impossible to talk about the real artistic heritage of the bashkirs hmm, because she left too early or life was the first too early, as noted by honorary scholars. uh, a real breakthrough departure from academism. she had in the last 2 years. eh, and that is, she went to the peaks on the ascending line and it is not known how high this line would go, but she left. just starting to open up. here in their latest work. and here olya, uh, mentioned this and i would like to develop the idea. uh, it seems to me that uh and the diary, uh, the bashkirs and her painting. yes, they initially proceeded from the intention to become famous. yes, become, uh, popular famous. she even writes at the age of 15 to such an often loved and conceited person as i you need to get attached to painting, because it is a very, uh, lively, inexhaustible activity. i will therefore neither be a philosopher nor a chemist. i can only be a singer and an artist. that's a lot. and then i want to be popular. this is the main thing, in general,
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a pragmatic choice. but, uh, choosing the path of painting of the bashkirs, they think that this is just the path to glory, but this choice completely transforms it, as can be seen from the diaries. i agree that the personality changes. she goes from m-m immature infantile whimsical. e ladies into a real sacrificial man who really ready for art. uh , give up everything that was dear to him before. and that is. eh, no matter how the antennae, uh, the bashkirtseva truly embarks on the path of the artist, eh, but eh. well, you can, as a learned person. uh, art, yes fine uh, appreciate her dash. you understand that this is unrealistic. at this level of painting, her painting hangs in the russian museum , her paintings hang in the musée d'orce in paris.
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went through it very quickly. do you understand this? you understand that some work is behind these. we wrote, of course, i understand. but as it seems to me, this is a debatable issue, but i'll express my own. it is fair to call an artist important or accomplished if he set some direction and had some influence on the presenters. uh, well, not necessarily innovators in general, uh, an artist is considered important if he has changed the cultural landscape, if uh, his ideas have sprouted into the future, so uh, well, it is important to note that her ideas of bashkirism, uh, some finds in painting. yes, they did not find a proposal, there are no people who would confirm the influence, uh , on their art, unlike literature. well, in the diary, her influence is obvious, and many authors of the silver age were carried away.
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you can even say, to some extent , tsvetaeva is in love with all this. bryusov khlebnikov it would seem that they have completely different aesthetics, but nevertheless white a and i agree with vlad that this book begins as a diary of a young girl seeking popularity, through a appearance is not, through art, uh, a little more difficult, but when she stops at painting, and when she becomes real, and uncompromising and cruel to herself in and it seems to me that the artist begins when he is ready to be cruel to yourself. that's when this story, which is personally interesting to me and enchants me, and i become in love with it. and it seems to me that, uh, when an artist devotes himself to everything, that is, puts himself on the altar of his work, then this cannot
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but cause. here is some profound change. a whether it is art, literature visual do not know that she did not choose, but the fact itself, and here is such a work ah-ah, he should be happy. in any case, yes, and he commands respect, but i can say that really one of the features of this diary is that it begins quite predictably for an aristocratic environment, yes , for a girl who is very rich, very beautiful and, let's say, artistically, yes, and we expect, of course, uh, after describing all the fans scores and the like outfits. of course, we are waiting for what it looks like now marry some nephew of an italian cardinal, yes or hmm that she will spin some kind of i don’t know, crazy romance or well, in general, she will do something, maybe
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through appearance yes, connected with her beauty and ability to dress very sad, that we expect it, but our stereotype is absolutely at some point. eh, the template breaks and we understand that this is a serious person. before us is a serious man. she chooses a not to marry. you can say to abandon the female path completely and works like a beast in order to be perceived as a person, that is, she writes in this that if my painting gets into the salon, i will be perceived as a person for her. it is very important that she evokes with her work. yes, not by her appearance e, not by her parents' money, but by her work and the fact that she chooses this path , of course, suddenly turns out to be unexpected , just like her tragic death earlier, her demands on herself grow, because at some point, when her painting ends up in the salon. she says, or rather, writes about the fact that uh hmm in the salon uh, exposes this daub. and
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if this daub is real art, then this is not the biggest compliment for me, that is, the level of self-criticism of reflection, compared with the girl we are on the first pages, is completely different. and it seems to me that this is self-criticism, it has roots in its narcissistic character. she is by nature a narcissistic person by nature , and this can even be seen in the way she relates e to her own appearance. here, as she is thrown from side to side, eh, she delights in herself and says how wonderful she is and that everyone should bow down. uh, right there, uh, on the next page, she can say that there is nothing special about me and there by the standards of soviet women. i have no interest in these people. i’m not dissembling anything, and i remember such a moment, and she describes how she came to russia because she lives on
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her father’s money in paris in rome in nice well, sometimes she travels in russia, here is a village near poltava and at some point she comes, of course. ugh. in this chat, they make some kind of visits, and she herself mentions that someone says that they saw the daughter of the bashkirs, a wonderful beauty, and she summarizes. these people haven’t seen anything in their lives, or here she writes at the age of 16, if i’m as good with myself as i say, from what they don’t like me, they look at me, they fall in love, but they don’t love me, who needs me so much in love. well, that is, uh, and her assessments of her own literary works. she also, uh, often criticizes herself. e, they say that the description of some primitive e everyday things. i used such pompous high-pitched words. they are proportionate. yes
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that she has such an uneven attitude towards herself, then criticism is love about how she is. my own thought, or there it revels in some of its beauties. and sometimes she says, oh, i can't describe it. it’s better for you to go to zola or there to balzac for such details, yes, go, uh, or there, uh, it ’s impossible to describe, in order to feel it you need to be me, that is, she signs her failure. like a writer too we on the other hand have a wonderful moment. e in the final, which i really like, and she reads the essay in thick. uh, rabbi dimont, and uh, says that her soul rejoices and at the same time, she scolds herself for being a foreigner, she lives in france and , uh, does not leave for russia but why?

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