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handsome ah, well, first of all, he, first of all, he's just a completely different story. just a completely different story, great respect, love and respect, as actors, he loves actors. he allows there a lot in every corner of the rehearsal, please, you want to do it. just extraordinary happiness, because those who, uh, have long been sitting with her covered, have begun to work, do you understand? and we want to talk so much, and, of course, in the format of one program, which is dedicated to tatiana pelter. this is impossible. need more often meet. yes, yes, and tatyana ivanovna is just me saying, this is my idol. this is if i am i in old age, as it was on the court, when you opportunities are fine it listen to this is a professional this is a professional. excuse this knowledge of the text. it's about 10 takes, because we filmed it. excuse me in soviet times, when the film had to be developed nobody is sitting. under the camera
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, don’t tell you with a piece of paper how today no one wants to learn the text, young people say that there are all the assistants for this. yes, that is just no no no this knowledge of the text is the desire to do this and that and that's all, and to run. and if there are 10 doubles, i will run 10 doubles. eh, well, that's incredible. thank you, my friends, i remind you, it was a podcast of letters, historians were my guests, but stanislavsky and actress elena valyushkina. hello this is a paws podcast and a first-person podcast today our guest is a person who is certainly the first person of the culture of our country, minister of culture of the russian federation olga borisovna lyubimova and i am a journalist
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natalya voloseva. hello olga hello, natalia, you became the minister of culture in such difficult times. in general, under-entertainment is not up to art. now, when you remember the very first month that you remember, what sensations do you know i was amazingly supported by one uh my colleague, and when he came up in the first days after the appointment, and he came up to me and said the first six months, you will be yourself feel like you've been scalded with boiling water. and that's okay. we all go through this so much and this is the comparison. in general, i returned to this head several times, because it's kind of fantasizing that you've been appointed, and you're going there in the back seat of cars and like that, i can say, i didn't have this feeling in any of the chairs. not in the back seat of a car, not entering the uh administration of the kremlin or uh when we come to
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the government for a meeting i didn’t have it like that, because it’s an incredible sense of responsibility that your nervous system has to handle, which should get used to carrying it, uh, and respond promptly to both joyful and bad news of both tragic and unexpected turns of events, therefore, of course. the fact that ahead of us all was waiting for the coronavirus for 2 years and then a special operation, and then it could not even come to mind. yes, well, definitely roasted, i would even say, such a good word. i don't remember any recent appointment that was accompanied. that's such a hype in social networks, and well, let 's just say bullying, yes, pulling out some youthful teenage posts there , some teenage photos. what is it what kind of reaction was this? it's hard for me to say. you know, i just
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remembered the moment. remember the movie. stuffed amazing rolan antonovich bykovoj amazing team and cameraman mukasia and fantastic roles and remember lenochka there without salting. here with uh. i was burning at the stake, but i was screaming, here, i remember very well, here is the state. this is, of course, very unexpected. at the same time, i can’t say that i’m glad that i went through it, but it made me lumpy in and what did you do as you went through these days completely introverted, not allowing in general, in principle, to read to myself nothing after the first reaction, stopping any, as it were, i then returned to maintaining social networks, which i always try to do myself and now too. i returned a month later, i think 3-4. just by simply turning it all off and more, regardless of the personal, not what was written in the comments, because it would destabilize me very much. i was very worried,
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including for my family and children. it was most important to me that no one offended my children at school. but it was the most teenage age. as i understand it, yes, they are somehow obtained by the eldest son. he was in uh, perhaps a tenth grade accident. so she is 3 years younger. well, in general, it was all the same, on the contrary, they were all very supported, and this was very important, and at first they too and too. understand here , they also did not have social networks from the very beginning, even before all these social networks. hey, here's the first post. they same learned increasingly on tv gave. well, of course, well, of course, both the father and the children are so, well, no matter how we dad knows the law, but this is wrong until they appoint, no matter how it would be incorrect, and they found out on tv. and somehow, on the one hand, this alarmed me, and on the other hand, it made me very happy, because they were not happy. and that they did not write sms were not afraid for
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me. they were all waiting for me at home, and they are very much especially the son. and the son. why son why nikitalas? nikita was absolutely right intuitively afraid that this would entail very serious changes in my life. how will you be, and what will you have even more work? no. it was very important humanly that at that moment they did not fantasized. and can i now have a new phone model there again. you are now ministers there, and now how can i go and where can i go there? i don’t know, to relax with friends, that is, at that moment they were not thinking about the hypothetical benefits that might entail. there's some kind of career growth of your parents. they thought more about what would happen to us. and you will have guests. is it possible? and we will, we will stay at home. we won’t have to move to another apartment, that is, it kind of calmed me down a lot. to be honest, like a dad. at that moment, he became your subordinate in this format, but we spoke separately, even bureaucratic, you decide that, of course, you are responsible for your father and
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sign all this. yes, of course, go to bed. yes , but it's a simple legal impossibility. let's remember who your dad is. uh, well dad all my life. uh, taught at gitis. now he is the rector of the shchepkinsky school for many, many years , serving the small theater. therefore , i am very happy for him when a man of 76 years old has three or four works at once, this is really like that. solution i think favorite work and favorite business, yes, and he lives by this, therefore such a hereditary workaholic. well, let's talk about it, then, in general, about your lectures about the circle to which you grew up on nikulin's mountain. uh-huh, where the traditional, as we know, great people of bohemian art live, and as far as i know, from early childhood you were under such patronage, for example, nikita sergeevich mikhalkov nikolina gora, indeed, a village of workers in science
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and art, therefore, really this environment where we all grew up, i can't to say that it was some kind of major environment, as it was customary then to say , because, on the contrary, we grew up in the nineties, our great grandparents at that moment and our parents received meager salaries of their own. uh, institutes, like my father was, who dragged my mother there, my grandmother, me and our housekeeper, who generation lived in our family and from time to time her parents borrowed money from her, because it was very hard to live, so yes, it really is in front of our eyes everything grew, some wealthy people appeared. people grew up, footage of fences around. well, in general, rather lived in the houses of their great-grandfathers. and in general, we continue to live. just trying to restore them to repair. uh, touch up roofs and so on. it's a very, really important component, as far as work is concerned, as they say in the industry, really. since childhood, i know and
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understand well, well, a number of areas in culture. and everything that concerns the fact that you mentioned nikita sergeevich well, firstly, a certain sergeevich in general, rather about those whom i love, i will kill him. uh, very strict the people we treat well when we were children no hearts. he shot his outstanding films, if we were allowed to be present during the filming of burnt suns for their breath. one, for example, so that most of the scenes take place on nikolina's mountain. well, of course, we held our breath, afraid to move, watched how he worked together, uh, with most of the nikolagorsk children who played there as pioneers in extras and so on, and then it really happened that it happened to me. it's very expensive that nikita sergeevich entrusted me with writing a number of scripts for his non-fiction films. i was asked once, are you the screenwriter mikhalkov and i directly grabbed my heart and say, are you the screenwriter
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mikhalkov ibragimbekov, queen mikhalkova was a hem, if about relatives mikhalkov's feature is, of course, some sergeyevich mikhalkov here, and our whole team, which i collected in order to do uh, this or that project. and of course, i just reverently watched how the master works and just got high, because working with him, really very very cool. and now this is such a very close star comrade, to whom, of course, we can consult to argue and share gossip , of course, too, but one of the beliefs is that he is your godfather . it's true, and my godfather is such a wonderful now living vlad zamansky amazingly absolutely fantastic actor he now practically lives in murom for many years and prays for me. i am in this sense, a very happy goddaughter
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my godmother is no more. this is, in fact, pilyav's aunt menshikova from the pokrovsky gates, aunt kostya, she is wonderfully three. yes, since childhood, you were born and grew up and matured in this creative acting environment in general. here you become a minister over them. is it time on your feet or vice versa? this is some hint for you, of course, this is a hint. just why be cunning if we say that it is better for a person to hit. uh, just from one industry to another , you can then look from above. it can be objective that you can look at the situation. from above, when you don’t know everything and the background, yes, everything related to something , such as personnel policy, for example, when they leave or leave us, uh, theater directors or leaders, because you need to understand very well with a corpse you need to understand very well
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who when you appoint, you need to understand the mood very well, you need to know the position of the old people well. it's difficult when you have 200 federal cultural institutions and you really don't really know how the volkov theater differs from the novosibirsk theatre. uh , who probably went out as a girl and for example, you need to know what the word navat is. if you live in novosibirsk, maybe you don't need something disgusting. here, here you see, here you see , you immediately wound up. it’s better that together cultures know this in advance , we’ll tell you on a business trip in novosibirsk that this abbreviation is to blame. e, novosibirsk academic theater and ballets. my name is natalya loseva i am a journalist, and my guest is olga lyubimova, the minister of culture of the russian federation so you remembered our life on nikolina's mountain. my parents have been laughing at themselves for a long time, what i have when my family is very secular, i have always been there a crowd of friends and all my life. i remember how my mother and father dressed beautifully there and left for the premieres
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and returned late. and i, on the contrary, am an introvert and i have been a terrible pathologically clamped child since childhood. they just painfully didn’t let go, go dig, please, it’s all some kind of night seating by the fire , and at some point dad told me very funny that i was sitting, darkly so you are lacing. remember, it was fashionable to wear these boots, so jeans and lace up, which means daddy says shoes, why are you so gloomy? well, i went to hang out with such doom, so years at 14:15. dad says don't you want to hang out? i say i don't want to hang out. for some reason you are going, then i would be doomed with such a one, because my uncle said. some guy's friend needs to hang out, you know, he said no, well, you need to hang out. so you can’t sit stereotypes, directly about people, cultures are all different, i didn’t intend to go into culture. i am pleased. above all the same
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, my rebellion was a rebel, of course, i remember , and i, by the way, after the gymnasium. i have already studied the english is more wonderfully wonderful and i was received there very much by you. yes, me, when we were church, girls, yes. well, yes. well, as it were, this is one of the other, well, we are a church girl with disgusting behavior from nikolin's mountains. well, you know what i am. here. i'm in the service. everything was running fine. well lesson. here is the hour of the liturgy, i had enough patience. and i didn’t have enough patience for an hour of algebra , but then i say that i studied at a school where they loved me and accepted me like that and , on the contrary, began to support my some dignity is not very appealing sincere. laughing about my shortcomings and some teenage language without bones. here, the only thing i always something witty blather. and, of course, my algebra teacher at the orthodox gymnasium brought it up. he said very sadly to my mother, it seems that i don’t know, unfortunately, i’m afraid that your daughter in
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life can only become a toastmaster, and dad. in general, with this, my mother lived somehow, i must give them their due, they were very sorry for me. here, uh, but on the other side. dad finished school for a worker youth and illuminator contemporaries began to work, therefore, uh, my children, too, to be honest, are famous in general, rather, for their human qualities. wait, and your older child is the son of nikita, he should already be at the university. yes, he is studying at the producer's wrangells. well, for now, uh, i also think a little that higher education is a ski track. well, that is, varya just said that he was coming, to be a teacher there. hmm, it’s interesting, but unexpected, what to teach. now he thinks maybe russian literature, there and so on. this is completely unexpected for me, but, of course, at the same time, apart from everything else, i am now very glad that my children do not study in creative universities,
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because otherwise they would still study at institutes. it would also be a conflict of interest on this side. by the way, i would be a mother, who, as it were, on the one hand, they also hide. that is, nikita has friends. eh, here are his classmates now. eh, well, now, maybe someone already guesses. and so, well, this is an additional responsibility. i love him very much i understand well. my grandfather translated almost all foreign literature , grandfather, who is lyubimov's favorite translator, yes, and cervantes and simply and rable, and please, you, uh, there are a lot, in short, the floor. exactly from the second year of study abroad there at the moscow state university zhorka, and now it all begins. and thank god we had 200 people, and no one ever asked me if your grandfather was or not, and i never told anyone, because, well, it’s considered that and says, well, here's the granddaughter, please, nothing knows. well, what is it, and you, as it were , are few in your favorite or beloved, i said it all, they tell me from the tanks. i say, it seems
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no, it seems, no, not sure, but loved ones, maybe alexander was more important at the gerfak then. i say exactly. no. precisely i would like to, but no, as it were, and so on the sidelines. well, let's still, so as not to have a difficult impression on the audience. i'll tell you what i knew from your dad's interview, that when you were a girl, he read aloud to you all of dostoevsky and so on, yes, so the question a little. dad read me all russian and all foreign literature, not only dostoevsky , just one book. uh, russian literature one book, foreign literature, and i did the same. you read the same. and this is the basis of any relationship. i believe that in this moment of education. you may study poorly. if well, of course, when your family gives you such knowledge, no, but then, of course, we all sat. uh, booty on the floor in the hermitage and looked at the ceiling at the judging glances of those passing by. so people we are together tried to guess the flemings. name of the canvas. standing, away. it was important for me
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to tell them. it was important for me to show them the prodigal son. it would be important for me to go together, of course, and then it was important to me when mikhail borisovich petrovsky showed it to me. and it seemed to me that it was important to him that i knew very well where hanging, you understand. you were also very pleased with him, but then again, who studied for what, as it were, i believe that what i could and knew to tell them as i know or, for example, uh, in israel to tell that i know oh ah gospel events and show that it is the most together to go through the belarusian, there and during our trips, because i could give and knew. and uh, we could discuss it together, we had time to do it, and it seems to me that this part of our family tradition is still such. well, i don’t know if you dreamed or thought that you would become a minister no, but i think that even if you thought about it, you definitely could not even imagine that you would have to be the minister of culture at a time
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when culture russian is cancelled. uh huh what your predictions? how do you feel? this time, indeed, probably the most difficult months for all, the first months of a special military operation, which were associated with high-profile interviews of people who had recently been long-term. the budgets of the recipients, let's say, are so endless , here it is, loud for many hours, who quote terribly indeed those who remain , insult those people who continue to appear on the stage, there goes such a thing. bowling real school yes when people are really confused and understand me easier because my task. and save and save everyone who is nearby. that is, i do not have time for my own reflection. probably if i sat on the patriarch's ponds at 12 noon and had breakfast with a girlfriend,
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probably by 2:00 in the afternoon breakfast would have ended with a panic attack. well, in this, since i have to work hard from 8:00 in the morning and understand how completely we are changing the repertoire, we are suspending all contracts , we are returning collections that were in other countries. uh, let's recall our federal and non-federal ones. it's that for a moment his abroad was. how many paintings are outstanding there are no paintings, there were a lot of paintings , we had a sufficient number of expositions there, which took place in a special operation of yours, in order to return them together for correction. my collegiums, our ministry of transport , helped us a lot. it can be no workshop culture on its own and of course the ministry of foreign affairs, but the threat that these works will not be returned. they will never return to russia was completely non-figurative. she know it was important to us. here even with such loud, as if words, as a threat, not to cheat each other, but
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it was important to understand exactly that every masterpiece that is in a friendly or not friendly country for the duration of the special operation will return back and remain in the museum fund of the russian federation, everything was returned. yes, it's completely back. this is a very big job, and from south korea to , say, western europe, we have a huge connection and these connections have always been. therefore, if we are talking about forecasts, and we are well aware that the inter-museum dialogue will, of course, be revived, because at the moment largest collections in the world. not working with the russian federation is robbing themselves , you know, i will give you an example, we had a very beautiful exhibition of elena yuryevna gagarina and a long inter-museum on a huge international project, which was called a duel. it seems that on march 8 , the prada museum of spain was supposed to open in the moscow kremlin. france and england gathered here in 5
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days. and all our expositions were destroyed there, respectively, a few days before the opening, and suddenly the entire union of museums, which before that was always inside us. so we are all complicated there one and the other shared the other. no. this is how he straightens his shoulders and says, we are in the state historical museum. we have rapirani. in general, we have decided the ring. i'm so a second in the museum potassium 5 million. the only state historical museum and storage facilities. and everyone starts just in the moscow kremlin of course, this exhibition took place. this is the reaction of a healthy person to the abolition of russian culture. as far as how we should respond. i'm convinced ask me what to keep learning great french literature great english literature, we will not call by other names or invent a nationality. uh, the same rembrandt velazquez, which are kept by the ukrainian artist ivazovsky, they will not be ukrainian
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belarusian at all. they will not be artists, except for those very flemings or there spaniards or italians or frenchmen who they were. and there is one more very important point. do you understand? we have all the time in some kind of juggling, inclined to somehow endlessly blame. and here i wonder who was the art critic who wrote that aivazovsky was not even an armenian. well, you just understand ukraine. he knows it 's not, that he's vanessa of course, and the fact that it's a lie and that you're lying, as an art critic. you go towards the political situation and step on your own profession, i can’t help but ask about high-profile appointments , high-profile non-renewals of contracts, and so on. that's when you prepare such a decision. do you understand what the resonance will be? yes. that's how you discuss it, how to teach it at all? yes? you understand this, he will call, who will tell you beloved? what are you doing? firstly.
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uh, what you mention happens extremely rarely, yes, and the system, ideally, of how a person’s contract ends, and it is often extended and extended, just a claim, mainly and most often to the ministry of culture, that you keep extending? why don't you have staff turnover? you see one side. see, and there is another side that says why the same faces in culture for 20 years. make way for others young, that is. and so on, they are resonant, and then we take this into account, there are specifics. why is this being done, no uh, sporadic random decisions? it’s just, uh, unfortunately, chess players have such a concept of zugzwang, yes, when you make , uh, of two difficult decisions, which would be safer anyway, there were situations when they still let you bring up those personnel decisions that you considered necessary , if
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it didn’t occur to me in the first 30 seconds and nothing stung me with a knitting needle. uh, no, no, anyway it was compromises that we discussed and decided and came to a common decision, as if yes, a compromise is sometimes a decision that leaves everyone dissatisfied, but nonetheless. at this stage it should be so, then you know. for example, i think, especially if we are talking about civil servants. if this is the wrong decision, then we will understand this, in a year and make another decision. all are you ready to fly into space
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first persons, my name is natalya loseva, i'm visiting journalists. i have the minister of culture of the russian federation olga lyubimova, we all know. what a huge number of creative people fled from kazakhstan upper lars before later, someone from your close circle left , of course not, what, of course, friends and me , got again and went to the family, what did you pin, what did you write? as a decent person, i am obliged to lay down my post, of course, it is impossible to bet. there, i don’t know what to sit down and leave through upper lars, i don’t know, it has already become a household word. uh, well, sort of, i've been hearing this again since i was appointed. that i owe something immediately
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, in general, i owe something immediately, and yes, and so we talked with you about this, if you like, such a story arc for me. for me , at that moment, i was already by february of last year. my nervous system was ready for me to just not even that i was hiding there. we all left because of the social networks that were popular at that time and moved to other social networks. simply, at least, because they did not call for killing our compatriots with you. and uh. i said goodbye to this life. i can’t say that i reflect strongly, so about it means, uh, if this is such a relationship, if it really is so it happened, so it was, well, somehow superfluous, and god is their judge, really. well, i got the impression that you are personally interested in the fact that the artists went to the donbass, so that lugansk donetsk
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artists toured and went to some exhibitions. look, when again the first thing that we could do happened and it immediately began in march, we took our people from there. eh, colleagues, now our compatriots. and what, it means you took away , completed large tours, because these are people who came to us and many of the women at this moment of the special operation had their husbands play theater employees. we are on vacation on tour, and then they went further to defend their homeland. and this is absolutely fantastic, and they are through belgorod through everything, in my opinion, 54 regions. they passed, and it was important for us to warm them up; it was important that there were full houses ; it's very, very, very amazing in and of itself.
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biography people. uh, with uh incredible fate and dedication. and therefore, of course, i really want to help them, and then, when i became, perhaps we began to bring there our first museum projects began to bring our first tours there. that's when people go on tour, they are more or less safe places, or it's pretty close to the front line coming up, well, first of all, on the front line. everyone interferes. hmm, the military will never allow this, because, of course, the most courageous individual meetings come and uh, young guys, there are performers. well, again . it's a question of do no harm. well, well, this is how you imagine what kind of system. it should be for the symphony orchestra to bring uh to the front line. well, of course, no , of course, it's a matter of what it's more work. where they let us in, we have established work with the ministry of defense. after all, this is
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work even where the guys perform, our teams perform. eh, and that's a lot. where already rehabilitated not tsinichenko. it turns out that there are guys without legs without hands, and in front of them are healthy. i perceive even in the first place, this tradition my grandmother danced on trucks and with a corpse, of course, everything related to rehabilitation. you know , there is an absolutely amazing performance in the exemplary theater. absolutely marvelous. here there were examples last year. and there , just everything is built in the memoirs of sergei exemplary, including this was very much in tune with the times. just a tear-jerking memory of him performing in front of the uh, the wounded and being torn apart? just, well he is a bibobo, well, where are the people who have seen death, terrible heavy operations. uh, exhausted tired doctors, and he comes, uh, to the head physician and says. well, do i have the right, he
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says, let's go to the intensive care unit, this is very necessary. there are just tears. it’s impossible to completely fragment and nothing in this sense changes, neither in people, nor in the history of our country, and the same dedication of everyone. we also need to slow down, because i want older performers, when you think about how else, the main thing is to ensure safety and the health of those who travel, but so that they don’t have to go to the hospital and help, er, those who come, but in fact this is such a part of the work. i very often cite this as an example, but, nevertheless, the russian state government, the circus of the handle, the circus of the rosgorka, he himself is from the donbass, his family is from there. it's just him personally and why did the doctor slow him down, we'll go to lugansk i say, well, let's just be careful there without afi. in order not to provoke god there. there's nothing there so that people don't. yes, yes, i say, let's, somehow, here. neatly, well, there is some kind of small program. no, what are you? well, of course, come on, i say, but whom to call? well cat there i say cats. i
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imagined it like a doll, i think. well, these are 11 lions 11 lions well, they are yes and the children, of course, have never been to the circus and of course, this is happiness. and, of course, now is not the time to take romeo and juliet and hamlets there, of course , they ask for comedies, they ask for fun concerts , they ask for just such a very peaceful joy about love , and the happiness of the circus for children to take lev lugansky by the hand 11 pieces. yes, and some kind of huge show there is tons of water, which means that this face painting is all balls of inflatable life, like talking as a child. when are you going to make a movie about it? these are amazing. i want to say that i generally have, of course, i have a dock in me now. leaf it just tears me apart, because i would have to quit everything altogether. i would shoot and shoot now, but of course, they shoot and shoot natasha and shoot and shoot, of course, honor and praise to our
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military commissars. i sort of grew my encores. they were on television always and always . you know that it was such a caste of absolutely amazing men, amazing, absolutely, causing incredible respect and past there all honor and praise to them and their families. they make a huge number of documentaries . we create opportunity. on the one hand, we are creating the opportunity to finance such paintings; these competitions are held simply by the ministry of culture. and through the cinema fund, we provide an opportunity. within the framework of the national cultural project, we have more than a thousand cinema halls across the country, and we just don’t want to say this content all over russia. content is not a feature film. your feelings can be described, but scripts have been written for a long time. i'll say movies. three four. i know for sure they are already filming with him and they think that they will soon finish already there , there everyone is in a hurry, while holding
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their breath. we are looking forward to how good it will be. how professional will it be? talented. yes, right? it's still like that. mm, as the daneliki said. well, art is synthetic. here. it also consists of how many components and here is the script before post-production. it's a long way for this painting. we are very much in favor of these projects are cheering. now this year there will be competitions again, let's see what else they bring and how the texts will change. you understand that the people who write. they reflect the same way. they are exactly the same first reflection, you need time and distance and an understanding of what is happening, yes, that is, a correct display. no, what is happening, because it is despite the fact that it is a work of art. we understand that now no one will understand what will be produced. if it's going to be somehow uh, incorrect. if there is any invention even if there is some fiction, imagine the real participants in the events. yes,
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at this time, of course, does not happen. it seems to me that you know such people kissing and giving you nothing helps this time to live in your church life. well, childhood, well, of course, well, i don’t know, in principle, life outside the church is simple, because i was baptized at 3 months. this is such a part of my life, believing parents were believers. yes, our connection with the church did not stop in the soviet years, as if grandfather was very general, well, mom's family, they just had a believer, and my father there have always been all very church-going and very well versed in uh, theologically very uh, deeply savvy and a educated people. and, of course, i don't know how i am without e church. that's my nervous system to cope. i think that it would be much more difficult that you, well, do not interfere and rather lack in order to be absolutely happy here and now. well, i can say that i am
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a happy person and indeed, thank god for everything. here, it's just a sin to complain to me. and if you could beg for something else. probably a little more time that i can manage, myself a little more time to be close a little more time to be a family. a little more time to take a walk in the fresh air. i really miss the sky above my head. we all the time sit under the roof and it is very difficult, because before the civil service. well , the life of a screenwriter and producer. for example, i used to walk a lot. that is, for example, i got up in the morning and wrote a lot, and then i went for a walk for 2 hours, there along the river, independence from the weather. it was just such an argument. yes, then there were no these scandinavian sticks, but in general, such an almost run. yes, there in general such activity is so very necessary.
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