well, i can say that i am a happy person and indeed, thank god for everything. it's just a sin to complain to me. and if i could beg for something else, probably a little more time that i can manage, myself a little more time to be close , a little more time to be with my family. a little more time to take a walk in the fresh air. i really miss the sky above my head. we sit under the roof all the time and it's very hard, because before the civil service, well, in life, screenwriters and producers. i, for example, walked a lot. that is, for example, i got up in the morning and wrote a lot, and then i went for a walk for 2 hours, along the independence river from the weather. it was just such a dispute, yes, then there were no these scandinavian sticks, but in general, this was almost a run. yes, there in general such activity is so very necessary for me. and here it is. uh, especially the opportunity

to go somewhere in nature bleeds. and here are these grass, uh, forest, uh flowers , or some blue-white snow that peels, or here is the spring weather that is outside the window and you really want to all these smells, and then once your day off falls there on a shower with a soft one, as luck would have it. or golden autumn all sweeps before this, perhaps, is not enough. yes, i miss it. here is such a first person of culture of the russian federation, minister of culture of the russian federation olga borisovna lyubimova there is such a wonderful joke. recommend some guide. take dante

hello we gathered our thoughts today to solve an unsolvable problem. dante in 35 minutes. these three brave varlamov writer philosopher, rector of the literary institute and archimandrite simeon tomachinsky dentist or or still or still dentist yes, i'm vladimir legu yes, and we, as i said, will try to solve, well, a really unsolvable problem. but you know, dear friends. here's what i want to say right now. i would like to talk about dante, more precisely, about the divine comedy, as a book of direct action , that is, this book is for every day, if we read it today only as we look at it, as we write dissertations about the influence on the concept of purgatory as a story about the middle ages. and so on. it's all wonderful. interesting and right. this book is part of, uh, our cultural code and so on and so forth, but it was written for what dante himself

remembers. and he said in one of the letters, and he says to take a person out of the state of unhappiness in which he is now and bring him to a state of happiness. yes, the hell of purgatory. paradise is a state of happiness, the father of names, what do you think about this e you question is actually quite correct and i absolutely agree here that the divine comedy is more about such self-knowledge. yes, because that dante is, in general, a symbol of a person, that is, each of us, and even his path of ascent. yes, this very difficult path through hell through heaven in an hour , in fact, for the sake of what, as it was called anciently, to become a kapokey, yes , capable of god, yes, that is, he had to. eh, really somehow transform something to do with your soul, in order to be able to generally look at paradise and its inhabitants and about it. beatrice speaks in one

place. dante's trouble was so deep. e that it was only possible to give him salvation the spectacle of the dead forever. that is, he had to pass. here, through all this horror, e, where he fainted there a couple of times, and so on. uh , that's it, the time of such fears of trembling, in order to really cleanse itself, uh from the inside, by the way , it's better to get up and start as a real person. this is possible for a modern person, but to perceive this text has been written for a long time. yes, many centuries ago, as a text. uh, for every day, i don't think about every day. so i don’t really imagine a person, but if you don’t read their hard-nosed philologists who will every day, uh, read one chapter of the date, after all, in my understanding. this is some kind of book that burns every day , i don’t really want to, i don’t really want to.

but in general it is curious that there is a very different perception of live. dante is very different. see, for example, mandelstam in his famous conversation essay. dante wrote that reading dante is such a difficult ascent, you need to stock up on swiss shoes with nails in order to go borghis , a famous argentine writer says that reading dante is a pleasure, that he generally reads books more just for the sake of pleasure. and here is dante - it's just that this is super. such beautiful poetry. in nietzsche, one can come across the idea that dante is singing, hygiene among the graves, well, he liked some paradoxical ones less, yes, therefore, perception. here , one of the french romantics in the 19th century wrote that reading is hell. this is because reading a florentine newspaper. yes, that is, this is actually the binding of this great immortal creation, who is the reality that was created. it also has a place to be, so it's a lot of planned stuff.

difficult very difficult and therefore every day i read something very different. i read pushkin every day. well, you can add pushkin to this collection . nikolaevich your still moving, he said that you read there to swim in the sea. i know why about every day, but there is such an approach, perhaps reading the date, that there are, uh, three levels, yes, and each subsequent one is deeper than the previous first level. it's when we realize the greatness of this book, yes. something like that, probably, could be, that is, not literary greatness, but there are people, who are convinced that the divine comedy is the result of some kind of spiritual journey of dante's revelation, and so on. something like that could be. it's first class first. i mean , not on the plane. a first class in understanding yes, the initial level is the second level when we talk, but such things can happen to me and the third level is the deepest. yes , the most serious and closest to what

dante wanted is when we say, listen , this happens every day. yes, i tell my students and i don’t think that dante would offended by such a comparison. i tell them, you know, you wake up on saturday morning and you have to go to the first couple and it's hell. then you get up because you need to drink coffee, there a little bit and already somehow life is getting better already, if it’s already purgatory and if everything is fine in the evening, then here it is paradise, but in a sense, of course, not in such a primitive everyday life, but this path that we go through all the time. isn't it, you understand? i say, everyone has their own ladies, yes, yes, so i remember my dante, i read it on the first course of the philological faculty, because it was necessary to read, and the beginning was a thick book that could not be borrowed from the library, because it was all sold out only in the reading room. yes, it was the first book in my life, which was to be read in such a way that i read three lines, i got a note to see what

the next three lines mean, again a note. and, i mean, i felt myself. this is the first philologist. what about reading like i used to read books before? i'm wondering, while yes, i 'm reading there, the eye flies, looks at the lines, a now the chips are not available. look, it doesn't matter. this paradise is part of the style. yes, it’s hell or in a different order, yes, but in any case it’s difficult reading in this sense , mandelstam’s position is closer to me that there is vector in this book, which, in fact , he himself explained. why comedy starts badly and ends well. was it so in the life of the date itself? that's what starts badly, i understand, but the fact that everything ended well. uh, in dent's own life - it's a rather debatable father. ivan what is your dante i agree with aleksey nikolaevich that it is really difficult to read dante, but mandelstam still wrote an opera reading. yes, these indestructible swiss boots with nails. this is the first hard

bite. that's when it's necessary all the time, i just watched it all the time. e in a note. this is for the first for the second government, when you already know each other well 25 times. yes, then it is, of course, completely different already. this is really a kind of interlocutor, in which you open at any point and somehow it touches you. uh, no matter, uh, actually. which part did you get into, because . well, if water, then, of course, it's not just terrifying. and somehow it cuts you off. eh, there these same terrible, so to speak, images of all sorts of snakes somehow connect with a person. yes, and they turn into one of those terrible such scriptures the other day i re-read. here. uh, well , purgatory is really our uh, ascension to god is for me it's like a metaphor for earthly life. yes, that is, precisely the efforts that are associated with an inner feeling. yes, and when he says i'm going up

to gain vision. and where are we sight of the british, and paradise is the contemplation of both divine objects and communion with saints, therefore , either his communion with adam is wonderful . yes, this episode from the divine comedy strikes me as the first person. that is, here are some, uh, pieces become familiar to you. and they are you or keep your mind vlade without despair, yes, uh, or be inspired. here is the ascent to god in this sense. i think that having overcome this first resistance of the material, then you go to some other, e.g. comprehension closer to you, i know what i wanted to ask the literary children. maybe i’m wrong, but dostoevsky’s cervantes in the 20th century had as much as he wanted before the japanese, but theatrical and non-mantographic staging doesn’t work

. no reason, because you understand this scale as the scale of scales, but here i am here i began to re-read, again the divine comedy, and caught myself thinking. well, and some books around even in america and caught myself thinking. in general, dante was not a very kind person. well, at least in this book. here, look what's there what happens is he travels through these three realms and is actually doing interviews. yes, he asks. it's you asking, it's asking you, it's amazing from an artistic point of view, it 's convincing. it is possible to say so, there are absolutely such people there. well, this is one of the most classic examples of the second round, the hell of a meeting with a ball with paola and the french floor and francesco yes, this is a famous medieval story, not even a legendary actual one happened before our eyes, but a blow, here are these two people, and who fell in love with a friend friend, but it is lawless love. yes, therefore

, they are in this second circle. in general, dante well, or a lyrical hero. i do not know how to put it correctly, he sympathizes with them at the same time. and here they are in this position. they have absolutely no remorse for what they have done, but from a point of view. dante, they are just there, because well, they have sinned, so they have sinned, although the person who killed them both. he is in a heavier circle of hell, in general, dante is very fair, so he is very fair, but we are not accidental we say that in our tradition mercy is higher than justice. here is dante's mercy in my opinion. there is nothing more than an impeccable artist, and when it means paola and francesco meet him and see that he is imbued with them. sympathy, but justice, the stronger. than sympathy, however. they say, they tell him that if we could we prayed for your soul before god they can't they are in hell. yes, but in them this human is so strong that they would pray and

the lyrical hero does not even have a movement of the soul. maybe somehow change and want to, maybe somehow forgive them. they really do not repent. this cleaning says, because if they repented, they would betray their love, there is such a complex moral and ethical complex, that is , dante certainly shows all this complexity, all this depth of human relations, but he passes by, he passes by them all. and this is his such passage through the parting grounds. eh, and rai is in this. oh, i may be wrong, i don’t know, which one i don’t want to take. what is the we each have our own ladies. yes, the first word that dante utters in the first chapter is a miserable pity, that is, it turns out. if you agree with your vision, yes, to a person who has no mercy, but he himself begins with this , the text begins with this. this is his first word no, mercy, of course, do not agree, then

you know more interesting. you agree it's not worth it ends badly. there is such a story that here, like everyone else, where is justice, where is justice? why are you still lawless around? well, as justice in hell, ah-ah on heaven is mercy, and on earth, how will it turn out, so to say, e, in this respect , indeed dant, he still studied law in a balloon for him, this idea was very important and not accidental. there is a katon, he put the guard of parts and so on, and she, of course, is present, but dante is compassionate and he is not accidental to them. i fell like a guy. yes? it's all to him, on the contrary, wilgel, he says, listen dear. if you now start to squander your emotion here, you simply won’t get there. where to where we must go you must step back and accept divine justice as it is. these people have chosen their own path. you are correct in saying that they do not want to repent. and

by the way, that's cleaning with wonderful too, the phrase amazes me. that only a few lines are dedicated to each character of dante, but this is eternal life, this is eternal life, you understand , that is, they are frozen in this state terribly, because the frozen state is only in hell. eh, everything else is dynamic everywhere. in number. they understand these wind chasing until and chasing francesco they are both interesting not fire. here is such a one, the first household association, yes or school, i don’t know, whatever. and ice. yes, ice is the ninth circle and there is also an amazing thing, when it goes i don’t remember who it says, well, like , give me an interview, tell me why you don’t want to talk about it even then, yes it says so well, i'll write about you. yes, that’s what i get from this, when i’m among the icy swamps , and you believe so much that it really happened , that is, when they were talking about dante . yes, that’s it, it was printed during his lifetime. okay, yes, what, here he was in hell, when you read this, you really have the feeling that somewhere he saw something. well, in general

, i'm here, to be honest, i think that i don't know, there the lyrical hero is not lyrical, but it seems to me that this is the result of some kind of spiritual experience. this. well, otherwise such books are not created, or such a book could not have been written in another way. and you know, that's what's interesting, what am i talking about? what turn i wanted to offer you now, i start, maybe from the fact that you said that, uh, he is fair, but he is not sympathetic there, yes, but in him this sense of justice is stronger. than sympathy. that is, he believes, it is clear. so it should be a pity for them, of course. well, they deserve it. let them look here. forgive yes, yes, yes, even this manfred , uh, sicilian, yes, which in general , excuse the church excommunicated, and the pope excommunicated the church, and he died on the pretext of repenting and he is not in hell. not in any style, right? well, he had other qualities. it was wonderful, it was sweet, dad, yes, who understood that he could not deal with these difficult deeds, papal and wanted to leave, or rather go to

the past. praying to god to consecrate him was not allowed to do this, in general, they imprisoned him and his church, by the way, the roman church canonized where dante places him in limp in the middle. worthless. yes, because from dante's point of view, he is so active and active. you must behave like this. and if you don’t lead, then there is a place for a concert , so you understand, he really is, after all . sometimes it seems to me that his position is more difficult. he can fall like a dead man falls but at the same time, internally, this lawyer, this lawyer, does not die in him, and he believes that everyone here is justly given, but according to their deeds for me. uh, incompassion and compassion is impossible love. yes, but a let's remember the end of the divine comedy that almost everyone knows, at least the last line, which is actually the beginning and not the end. here i could not eat, but high spirits took off, but passion and will. i already strove as if dunn's wheel is a smooth ride of love that moves

the sun. and love shone for dante - it's not metaphor. this is what i think is sometimes confused from beautifully finished for beautifully finished. it's not a metaphor. it is literally the sun and shone and in general everything in general, the main feeling, love is love, yes, only dante says that there are two problems. where is the sin. or an object. wrong, selected love, or not, measures of love. and here, by the way, what does christian christian asceticism and sympathetic say about this? heritage to what extent is this view? it is close to us very interesting, of course, the topic and it would be worth studying it in more depth, but i met something similar, naturally, not in terms of love. and now the confessor is in maxim's cellar. yes, that is, that is our full strength. yes, they are initially, as it were, kind, yes, they can be directed to yes in the right direction, and then they transform a person, they really lead to god, and they can

go completely in the direction yes, and and this is not some kind of evil, nature. yes, naturally christianity understands that man is created good. yes, but here's how he will use what is given to him in the topic by uh talents. well, yes, well, this is a common christian idea. yes, in general, god does not create evil, therefore there is a person, and all and all his feelings of desire, his desire, even with us, by the way, an italian dentist wrote a book to an embryo, uh, which was translated into russian, apparently embarrassed, but original dante who saw god, in the original book is called dante the poet desire, because dan is some kind of without desire , nothing can be neuro- psychophysiologists. they would say needs. yes, but it's true, but only this desire of dante is associated with love. and the problem arises when you either lost your way, or you don’t love it. yes, this, by the way, is quite in line with sin in the orthodox tradition. this is a miss. yes, the word sin can be translated from greek into russian as a miss. dante

says this is wrong, the target is chosen. it means you don't love it. what are you worth loving? this is the feeling of love that god gave you which no one else has. bukashka does not have. here and you have it and you let it in, and the second is a sense of proportion yes, how are you? well, i would like to specify this, because danko has the object of this love is understandable, it is biotracked. yes, it's like this is his personal story and his love for this girl who appeared in his life when he was nine years old, who was never his lover, never was his wife, because he married another she married another. then she died. and so, as far as i understand, uh, the essence of such an undercurrent of the divine comedy is that at some point dante's life went in the direction of sin, life. yes, i went by and then, as it were, architecture divine comedy. today i will correct me if i'm wrong, because when she saw this, the mother of god yes turned to them. speeches and now

, moved by love, beatrice shows dante, hell. where at all? he had to get there, because he lost his way and the only way he can, as it were, take the true path, that is , love really lies. eh, dante's love for beatrice beatrice's love dante here it lies love, that the sun is moving , the step is shining, it's not in the sense. such a strong feeling, it literally says the world is driven by love, but i don't accidentally. uh, vladimir romanovich i'm writing more biographies. i am always interested in the biography of a person, how it turns out, after all, that dante had his own wife, had his own family, had his own children. there, his personal drama of the political answer was the expulsion yes from uh, florence well, that is, you understand the divine comedy? what, maybe you want to tear it away a little from considering it as an eternal work. i want to bring it closer. here we are now for the land. no, maybe the brains arranged?

i want to understand, here, yes, how is it? in those specific conditions, how it was created and how some kind of strange life is obtained in a person. here you have a wife. here you have children. here you have a family with whom you were separated. and you love some, and love you, please. do you know why? because when dante says love, he doesn't mean to leave your wife, stop loving your wife. and now let's destroy the family there. no. he says, to love means to do everything to make someone you love feel good. and this does not mean that he can love one person at all. love moves, the sun, the luminaries, make no mistake, make no mistake, merey now if you left your wife and tried to marry biotrechen. well, then dan would say you don't love her. he himself said. you don't love her because you want you for yourself. yes, you are love for yourself. no, it seems to me that biatria is, in general , some kind of fantastic story, because he managed to turn it. uh, some, well, a little-known girl, yes

, whom he really saw a couple of times there. e. into a media personality of a huge scale not that word into a universal symbol, yes, that is, she actually performs. like, uh, the personification of faith yes, and there they are in heaven. uh, with the mother of god with all the other saints. yes, and it's so organic. that is, on the one hand. indeed, it seems to be such a platonic earthly beloved, which he aspires to, and it is clear that this is so, but on the other hand. he is starting to see. eh, the heavenly world is already in paradise being. yes, he looked into the eyes of beatrice, looked into the eyes of his beloved so much through her, but this is not don quixote indul, blue. you see, it's completely different. uh, youth status, said demolition of the head is a completely different thing there. and this does not mean that he does not love his wife. no, well, he certainly loves, by the way, no one argues, but in general, of course, the situation is unique, especially since it's not just a beautiful lady

, it's also such a symbol that troubadours. by the way, it is while reading the troubadours in the divine comedy that paola and francesco begin to test each other in treatment. when all their troubles begin, that is, dante makes another attack against this french cultural literature, but again speeches still act as a judge. yes she is her love her love sufferer suffers. there, her love is demanding. there, this, this, this, this, this, this, this , this, this, this logical, this pastoral. i would even be present, but look here again about, but this closeness or grounding, just, it seems to me, that we, probably, are only about one thing anyway. here he is vergil there. why is it spinning? why in allergies, and i met again , i’ll make a reservation, and not my thought, not my discovery , not because the great ones there, too , went down there, went down a lot where i went, but, because that dante is a poet, so whom to send, therefore, in whom he saw a kindred spirit would be a philosopher.

well, i’ll boldly assume that socrates would have come well, at worst, then for aristotle it seems to me that this is also such a very non-random moment sergei with that very poet poet no, well, then he still wrote the famous fourth to loga, where he predicted, uh, the birth of a baby then a wonderful deed, therefore, in this sense, he is for a poet who is read by christian culture, as something that predicted, and of course, yes. it was inscribed like a prophet. e, the pagan fore-prophet of the houses to say before christ yes, and plus what is there, you have already said, it is very important that his own heroes force him, n- is launched into the underworld. and he actually sees it. e. in the same place, this is all the origin, even partially of the same. there is an idea that here they should buy their anger with flour and then enter elise yes, who will be cleansed, yes, yes, therefore, in this sense, they are allergic and for him, of course. a model as a poet and a leader, uh, and a sage, uh, and

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into space today we gathered our thoughts on the topic why dante archimandrite semion tomachinsky aleksey nikolaevich varlamov and vladimir ligoida, three brave men who are trying to answer this difficult but important question in 35 minutes. but look again, uh, an interesting point , again, it has been noticed many times, there mudants not only in dante but dante are definitely very important the first last word, and the last word every part and hell was cleaned yesterday. these are star stems. yes, stellar is what lazinsky translates as luminary, yes, and

then we went out to see the stars. the end of hell, yes, the clean one is worthy to visit the luminary, a purgatory and love that moves the sun shone. after all, in my opinion, alexander sedokov has an idea there that this is a constant reminder of how important it is to look at the sky and in a metaphorical symbolic sense. and what do you think, i generally admire his cosmology, despite the fact that this cosmology is such a ptolemaic system , geocentric in the center of the earth, the planets revolve around and the sun is also one of the planets between these planets, and it rotates and you on the one hand understand what it is? well, scary, probably not scientifically modern point of view. although, that but i read the thought of kutuzov's leg, as clay writes. in kutuzov of the soviet mathematician p. a of the florensky council, yes, which is such an absolutely wonderful quote , where it’s just the father, and pavel argues

that dante has such a non-iquildian geometry, it turns out that there, on the contrary, seemed to look far forward and saw what, for example, copernicus galileo and jordan bruno saw there, but could not, but about mathematics. i certainly can’t say anything, but in any case, that’s what he has amazing beauty of god’s world, that he has amazing landscapes, be it earth. do not be creepy here are these hellish landscapes. yes, be, then be purgatory, then be the sea, odysseus there, who are still swimming. this is connected with the activities of people, and these here are the heavenly spheres of this music of the spheres, which then will be chronically described by the venetchko, erofeevna, of course, dante's er yes, this is the world. it really is the world. this is the universe that he created. it is, of course, mesmerizing. it is absolutely. uh, blows the roof off. these are the ones i forgot about the beochek. it was a cool idea. e. o borchis, where borchis is paradoxically again to him manner, in my opinion, he writes that sometimes one gets the impression that, in fact

, for the sake of meeting with the biotrack, everything was written, that he yearned so much for this dead wound of his beloved, that for her sake he wrote everything and, as it were, the central event in the divine comedy. really is e meeting. yes, uh ibi a3 well, it seems to me as a special case of a more general one. because look, we are talking about the divine comedy ending. with a phrase there, he feels for himself the love that moves the sun shone, but in in a sense, it begins if we assume that dante had some kind of experience. he let's be careful. so. it’s delicate that he experienced something, then he went through it, and then he wrote, that is, dante , who writes earthly life, having reached half , begins, the first chapter i found myself in a gloomy forest, this is dante, who already felt love for himself. what he moves with his luminary is love, and only what he saw in paradise allowed him to describe everything else later. he

something made this journey from start to finish end, and then sat down to write it down like this. yes. i think, holding back, my father said to himself, but about the stars. i would also like to add two words that they really are of great importance, not only as, so to speak, final words, but in every canticle a. they also have a very great symbolic meaning, because, let's say in hell, there are no luminaries and light at all, yes, this is a completely dark experience, that's why they went out to see the luminary again, yes, the stars appear at the beginning of four stars, which are four antique virtues wisdom courage moderation, and that beloved by alexei nikolaevich, justice here are four ancient ones, and then three more already appear when climbing a mountain, and when already in an earthly paradise, yes, when moving

to paradise, three more stars already appear theological virtues. faith hope love yes, that is, uh, what other luminaries? what is it about? yes, that is, a person must acquire these virtues in order to go into the woe unconditionally. so its here. you know, i want to make a sharp u-turn and have time to talk. about sad, probably topic topic of translation we understand that between the reader and the author in the case of a translation there is always a translator. well, what can you do, but we understand that, uh , such a translation of lazinsky, which is considered canonical, is a feat in every sense, or there are human because. he wrote in besieged leningrad , yes, then in the evacuation he should finish in the forty- second year. if i am not mistaken, i have finished translating and this is a poetic feat. yes, this is a philological linguistic feat. but at the same time, paying tribute to the experts they speak, of course, the sublime language

that lazinsky offers us. this is not a language. dante, he is without such sublimely dark diseased things. it's just true, yes, that is, everything is tough there, and in general, this is the language. it was after all. eh, actually. it is understandable, he creates the italian language in fact for these works, but this is the language that people spoke. we don’t speak lozinsky and didn’t speak in the days of latin. and in general, they never spoke like that almost. well, in truth, modern italian is already strong different, if robert accusations are wonderful actors, yes, dante was rediscovered for the whole of italy after which they now read the laughing shelves, uh, then it will remain so for them, like some kind of word about the regiment. what do you think about the translation of lazin to read? well, to be honest, i have nothing to compare. i still need an expert here. i can only say

that i have the same mandelstam, and he learned a special italian language in order to read dent in the early thirties. and by the way, it is curious that the translation of lozinsky in the forty-sixth year received the stalin prize. yes , and even according to the rules personally. yes, they corrected the situation personally, stalin according to the rules, what did he ask? what is tikhonov's? main event he was told the translation of the infant. let 's give an award. we do not have such a situation, let's change the situation and give time, but here's what i seem to intuitively do. right now, getting ready for our today's conversation. these are mine in quotation marks attack. why was he like that, that's angry, strict, severe to himself and others uncle. does this really suggest that the sharp one could speak? he's out there fighting one of these sinners, seriously. in the ninth circle there, one of them doesn't want to answer him something. yes, he just starts to fight with him. so you understand that a person who behaves this way is most likely expressed in a different language. what is it, perhaps,

described in a baby, by the way, you said that mandelstam learned it on purpose. i remembered that i had also read that in the lazinsky family there was such a rule that he wanted to read a book. well, how to learn a foreign author language, and therefore he admitted that many masterpieces of eva literature. he missed. well, because akhmatova didn’t manage to learn all the languages, look, and the muse’s poem and now she came in, throwing back the veil , looked at me carefully and said the back date, dictated the pages of hell answers. i read somewhere that this is it. and these akhmatov's poems are such a marking that the russian culture of russian literature the divine comedy is not fully read. what, uh, the work here akhmatova writes about hell. yes, she has a boyfriend dante there, and there it is true and paradise is mentioned. well, and many others. where is the sacrament? where someone talks about paradise, well,

it doesn't matter. it's boring and so on. but we often come across the fact that people really read hell and beyond. well, it's just interesting. to understand more closely, it seems so to them, yes, in fact, this is the famous, just rozanov's statement that the vice of the artistic reflector is so dim, yes, that is, all ideas. well , what can be interesting in paradise, but, in principle. well, what are you, well, the angels sing, and there are no conflicts, no speeches, no passions. and dante has some tension there. there is less than sometimes higher yes, and brighter. and these exams that we arrange. there, the apostles peter john and dante, you are generally amazed. i would have fallen there on the first cut. that is, in this sense, there at all. it is so worked out and the fact that not reading the other two canticles is such a sad phenomenon. so you think you can agree with that? but what about our culture? well

, it just seems to me, such a given, although our great ones, of course, like pushkin gogol they read the original. yes here, naturally yes and they read entirely. yes , they did not know each other, yes, but they read it in its entirety and appreciated it in its entirety. yes, therefore , it seems to me that not mowing is needed here, and , among other things, i found a common effort to overcome this stereotype that it is only interesting in hell, there is a disco. there, you know, there was some italian advertising. uh, telephone connections, there are discotheques. there are dates there, hello yes, that is, well, sort of, yes, it was a whole series of commercials. uh, advertising company phones, yes, and the tomato pestered in such a entertaining. this is, of course, the general one. that's a sad stereotype. well, i still want us to finish already, we could not make it impossible.

yes, but on the other hand, i really wanted the result of our conversation to be for those who will remember dante with us . yes, for those who have not reread dante for a long time, i want to say that, of course, this is a book written for paradise. and of course, if you get to, uh, before that previously not that there through some difficulties. and just read it. you read you see that it is interesting and much higher in tension, yes, than what is written in dante's terrible hell. thanks dear friends. today we gathered our thoughts about dante alexey nikolayevich varlamov, archimandridevich vladimir yagoda. thank you, thank you