big game on the air for several months we heard a lot, read a lot about the upcoming ukrainian offensive and even gave more or less clear dates, the end of march the beginning of april. and all of a sudden we are now beginning to hear that the uh offensive is being postponed. let's see what the washington post has to say about this based on the pentagon x-files that were just leaked online. the expected spring offensive was

presented as the only opportunity for ukraine this year to return the territory, held by russian troops, who make up about a fifth of the country in total, but the operation was delayed due to the weather, slow supplies of equipment and lack of ammunition. adding to fears that the situation is a stalemate and further complicating the planned counterattack are the leaks of dozens of us military and intelligence documents, including many details about the state of the ukrainian armed forces and their capabilities. including weaknesses in the air defense system, which can force commanders to change plans if kiev fails to reclaim significant territory and the flag of the country's western patrons , many ukrainians fear they will be forced to enter into negotiations with russia from a disadvantaged position. and the fact that this is not a fake is confirmed by the recent statement by the prime minister of ukraine shpigol

, who just said that the ukrainian counter-offensive, as they call it, could begin in the summer, that is , again, much later than expected. well, in general, on the one hand, you can say, what's the difference, but there is a difference, because if it starts in the summer, let's say starting in june. then a political problem arises for president biden, because in september, after the so-called labor day of laymen in america , the presidential campaign traditionally begins to go full force and if during the presidential campaign it turns out that, firstly, the ukrainian armed forces have not reached large visible, successes on the one

hand and on the other hand in september expires, that package. e funding that has been identified for ukraine and what is needed administration with a new one to go to congress with a new serious request, then, naturally, it will mean that the theme of ukraine will become part of the american election campaign, or it is easy to predict that it will be republican candidates. donald trump, but frankly, they will not forget the fact that there will be a situation when the united states is not seriously limited for the second year, actually supporting ukraine, but the results are not visible. that is. in general, if we are from a military point of view, we can postpone the ukrainian offensive for a couple of months. this little problem in political

terms. in general, this is, in general, of course, a serious challenge, but the biden administration, how can they continue to shake ukraine on what scale? i want to ask you general leonid reshetnikov. did you have a great career in the kgb in the first main department of the foreign intelligence service. you were engaged in the foreign intelligence service, the post of chief of information. political management is a very serious post. in addition, you headed a very important strategic institution, which was at first a part. uh, swarm now associated with the presidential administration. that's when you look at this whole situation with all these drains. do you think, firstly, is this a serious leak, or do these leaks reflect, but real documents. er, like

some real processes or just maybe, disinformation no, this should be taken seriously, and i know that here we, er, specialists are serious. uh, maybe there's something in there. eh, such, well, it looks like disinformation, but the whole array is real and documents. these are real documents. maybe the quality is different, we addresses, so we don’t know where we didn’t go, but this is a real flow of information that goes along the line somewhere in the united states. uh, the secret services, uh, really, and i really relate to them, but about uh, the offensive, of course. uh, what is contained in these documents, what i managed to see. eh, it can't change. uh, the idea of ​​our general staff about the situation of the armed forces, and in general in ukraine , well, there are, uh, other means of reconnaissance means

, uh, various, which allow us, uh, to have a fairly complete picture of situation and e vsu and the state itself. why do they twitch and change the dates. uh, the leaders of the kiev regime calls different terms. well here's the offensive if we're talking scale. all they need is a large-scale offensive of some kind success on e, a strip of 30 km or 40 km and will not give anything. well, they can break through to reach the second to the third line and then uh, what, then the war continues, and then there will be cat soup, then there will be cat soup, yes bloody soup. yes, nonetheless. why a large-scale offensive for a large-scale offensive, which well, how they dream will bring them to the border with the crimea, at least they need an advantage. eh, vsu, at least three times

the minimum. and you are five times better in order to carry out this offensive, if such forces are now e vsu, they consider, they see, well , the americans who sit there and they also set the dates are counting for them, and this is reflected here. decide not to decide. but how is it that there are forces, there are equipment, there are tanks, there are aircraft? and what about the russians, oh, the russians are still holding outside the line of battle contact. uh, tens of thousands, if not 200,000 people, they train, they don't participate in battles. and how much effort did we spend on the bakhmut at the marinka on avdiivka. how many patta are they? they ate, well, a significant part of the regular army. e vsu, with

whom to attack? yes, they are from volunteers, uh, they created an offensive guard, who calls there 40.000 50.000, but these are other soldiers these are other officers these are officers who have passed and or soldiers a monthly two-month course , it doesn’t matter in their own ukraine in poland of these. soldiers came some nato courses but sounds nice, but these courses do not differ in any way from our courses for the mobilized or from the courses in ukraine for the armed forces, but only the name differs and may be some kind of living conditions for those soldiers who were taken to spain or england, well, we already have prisoners who have taken this course are taught about the same and they do not turn into super soldiers of super fighters in 2-3 weeks, but to become super. you must serve on

a contract for at least a year and a half, so the ukrainian authorities command together with by its american and english handlers it constantly weighs the risk. this is a huge rice to take off and it is not known what else russia has prepared, because er, no matter how critical our social networks are. uh, this is the position of the sphinx. which russia has occupied for the last six months we are silent and there we grind with a bang. she is also thought provoking. and what have they prepared, and what has russia built besides the three defensive lines, and how can they strike near orekhovo, uh, for 3 days in a row we have been bombing with these bombs with fabs, uh, and we're doing a lot of damage. uh, the group that is being formed there, so you know how they say in russian, uh. and i want and prick and my mother does not order. but you must absolutely

rightly said, uh, the political situation is forcing, and i think the americans will still force them to take action. ah, attack. uh, it's hard to determine the timing, but it's not that important. they talk about the offensive so much that already , uh, the date itself is not so important there on april 24, as uh, allegedly zelensky told the pope, the pope of rome. e, reported it on half the world or there, er, the twentieth of may is already, in principle, no, everyone is waiting for this offensive. and most importantly, the armed forces of the russian federation are waiting after the kharkov lesson. i think we have drawn certain conclusions. and uh ready. uh, they definitely made serious conclusions, this does not guarantee automatic success, but conclusions

were made, no conclusions were made, and very serious conclusions were made and the concept was approved under the offensive of ukraine, how it will be executed, how this plan will be executed. it already depends on the performer from the general staff, commanders of the fronts of the districts from the direct commands of the commanders of the brigades of formations from the fighters, but the plan itself exists, it has been developed, it is ready and is being prepared for it. count six months. this is what the other side understands, therefore, here is such, uh, the situation. uh, let's go, slightly reminiscent of a swing, or maybe move it to mid-may. or maybe at the end of april. a? maybe it's the lack of confidence. she works. e desire to get as many tanks as possible. they didn't understand that it didn't matter. well, well, well 200 will be in the end. but well,

the swing is no longer possible - this, of course, is a good comparison. but i'm actually starting to think about it, for sure. you know, especially vladimir as a historian is better than me. i think the kursk bulge, when both sides were preparing everything for the offensive, when one country, the soviet country, preferred to start with the defense of e. i. when, in general, for the soviet country, the outcome of the battle was clear, but, on the other hand, until the battle was over. you should always be ready for it right. well intelligence given the soviet side had very good ones. uh, according to the kursk, according to the hitler plan, very good intelligence was from several very strong sources, and we had an idea. it seems to me that we also now have such intelligence. i really hope. and i hope, not only because they feed the hopes of the young. i'm

not at that age anymore. well, because i hear, uh, in moscow, this is taken very seriously including, to understand what the ukrainian country is doing, but here is one of the things, uh, that the ukrainian country is doing and we hear about it just those very new documents that have just been released that the ukrainian country. so to put it , he beats his hooves in order to start inflicting all sorts of strikes on the territory of russia, and whether it be sabotage groups, whether it be drones. and as we saw recently. uh, whether it be terrorist acts, even in st. petersburg and in the suburbs of moscow, and this raises a very serious question, which i want to turn to you alexander dugin is a philosopher, political scientist and historian. that's when i think about how to deal with it. that surely is different models, but i want to ask you about two

one model. i will conditionally call it the sudoplatov model. these are ship payments to his first edition, when he did what he did on the eve of the war and when it completely dissolved, and the white guard, i don’t want to say underground, probably radical emigration, especially ukrainian terrorist organizations began to strike at them with some kind of with the help of some ship payers with the help of completely different people, but the point of view was that this fight could not be won only by defending on one’s own own territory. but after the great patriotic war, after all, both the british and the americans continued to throw sabotage terrorist groups on the territory of the soviet union and especially on the territory of ukraine and here. the parade ground, by the way, played

a role in suppressing the terrorist underground. e in western ukraine, but nonetheless. in general, as far as i know, general e did not attempt to launch retaliatory strikes in the united states, for example, great britain , that is, they coped with effective defenses. here. what do you think should be done now? how to respond to these attempts of terror against the territory of russia against civilians? and we look, most importantly, we now win the war. and so, if we understand that every time, every epoch has its own wars and these wars have their own logic and algorithms, then we can rethink the meaning of other terror on our territory on the territory of the enemy of the target, which is chosen in order to

destroy them in the first place. turn in the second and third we will see a completely different picture, in my opinion. now the time requires us to fundamentally rethink the nature of war, and, i think it is no coincidence that the war that is being waged against us, it very seriously takes into account the information factor , the intellectual conceptual ideological philosophical in a sense , in fact, the system is that hybrid war that is being waged against russia it uses several levels simultaneously, where terror is also part of this general model. it was also worked out in afghanistan and during the arab spring and in the use of isis americans, that is, terror, is not terrible in itself; terror is terrible when the targets are chosen correctly, when preparation for these intellectual preparations enters, when

the enemy has groups that this terror supports, they will split society, for this you need your own networks of influence. this requires ideological pumping, which the americans have been doing in our country for the last 30 years in the most active way, when one terrorist act falls into this context, correctly prepared from the diplomatic point of view of the military strategic ideological information here psychological it can give a huge effect. in my opinion, we should, uh, just understand this multifactor. level up in the structure of a new war and find those points near the enemy that are truly important and here you see, i am for the first time for a second alexander when you say enemy, you mean ukraine or wider. but this question is very obvious, what is wider is obvious, what is wider, but in fact, when we talk about here, many people talk about the need to hit bridges in order to interrupt communications for the supply of new

weapons from the west of ukraine and from nato countries to the east to the front. we understand that it is not by these, but we are hitting, but by weapons, but by the delivery system, the same lines. there are the same bridges, the same connections between the ukrainian regime and , for example, the british special services, the american special services , certain political forces, and this is a single system sometimes, there can be one pinpoint blow inflicted on one or the figure in one or another point about directly our enemy of ukraine can give exactly the effect that we need. that is decisive. maybe the strike should be here, the platov strike should be inflicted along the line, which is located between, for example, kirill budanov yermak zelensky and the era and mi-6, because obviously the role interferes in this situation. he is the head of ukrainian military intelligence.

yes, and it is obvious now, especially around odessa, there are a lot of british interests. and now, maybe, to hit this point, maybe some character unknown to us by outside observers is playing in the organization of the same terrorists against us is a key role, being in the shadows. we. here, speak. we know such and such people , they are in the world. but there are connections between them, maybe the most dangerous, maybe someone in the cia is a threat to us , an unknown person who is smart and efficient understands. us and our weaknesses are better than anyone than anyone else. it is possible that it is precisely the elimination of the targeted elimination of a truly serious important element of the war that is being waged against us that we will achieve pay, i correctly sum up what you said, that from your point of view, and there’s no way, uh, russia is not obliged to limit

itself to the territory of e ukraine, protecting its safety and the lives of its citizens, but on the other hand, whatever you do it should do smart pointwise, but unbelieving from the stomach. most importantly, it is we who are dealing with the very fine tuning of the war waged against us by our enemies. and we need to respond not rudely, not frontally, but also pointwise, maybe even some kind of politi. operations within the united states during the pre-election period, i don't talk about character at all, i spoke about many different network models, certain social projects, maybe it will be decisive for us. we need to find a weak spot in the enemy system , we need to understand this society with which we are at war, to understand that the instrumental nature of ukraine in this situation, when of course they are our main opponents. we are indeed dealing with

a global force that is far from being. as has been said many times on your program by consensus of all countries. west nothing like this is one part of the ruling elite, which, firstly, is split and there is another, the ruling elite, its other segments. there are peoples who in general are supported by people , and on these contradictions of our global enemy. we have to play in my opinion. if there, during this operation , some kind of hard dagger action is required. in the spirit of ship payment, one must definitely go for it. it must not be scattered. we only have, roughly speaking, like our enemy, not so many opportunities. that is , we have a limited number of uses such radical methods. it is used against us, it means that our hands are free, but this does not mean that we must immediately use it. it's just a matter of considering we 're dealing with fearsome enemies. right does not mean having an obligation to do something absolutely. and that's about that, in a sense, i'll just

ask you to complete. in a sense, of course, it would be better to avoid this altogether and escape using these direct acts of terror against even those who deserve it. there are many more ways to win and grow a fracture in this most serious fundamental war without using these methods. they can be more efficient, of course. they must then be chosen according to the method, the effectiveness should be initially applied to recognize the possibility of everything. e vladimir rudakov e you are a well-known historian, editor-in-chief, leading journalist. i want to ask you a question about who provokes your wars. in the case of, uh, a russian special operation, we hear a lot about it being an unprovoked aggression, but somehow i always pay less attention to the word aggression, because this is what is called perspective or opinion dependent, i'm

more interested when they say it's unprovoked . it seemed to me that russia spoke about this so many times in terms of nato expansion, even starting with boris yeltsin , and even more so yevgeny primakov, and putin spoke about this in 2007 in his speech in munich and was, of course. the russian military operation to protect against the chest in 2008, and uh, of course, uh, was the russian operation to support the donbass in 2014. i'm not talking about the liberation of crimea, and now, after all this, to say that uh washington and nato did not know. we understood the russian position, but somehow it ’s strange for me to hear this. i don't take it seriously. for me, these are just some propaganda clichés, but i have a serious question for you.

but russia, by its actions, could somehow provoke such a unity of the west, such an obsession with ukraine, if you want the transformation of ukraine instead of some kind of regional dispute, and between russia and poland a dispute that has been seen a few times over the centuries, what is it became almost existential interest? from the west, you see russian actions after the collapse of the soviet union that, from the matchmaker's point of view, would pose a real threat to nato, a real threat to the united states. well, you know, maybe i'll answer a little ironically. i think that if it hadn’t started, a special military operation in some kind of this reorganization on prospekt mira and the middle lane to the left lane by the americans could also be perceived as a threat to national security, because, uh, this is all a feeling and the american establishment. apparently well, you said correctly. the era of yeltsin, apparently , in the era of yeltsin primakov, it already began to be felt,

and the fear for one's security, realizing that powerful resources from russia stand behind russia and intellectual potential. and the people that russia, uh, this is not a fragment of the soviet union , like many other union republics can be no offense to someone said, but it’s still uh. well, want it in the west, there is no thousand-year-old empire with its own history with traditions and potential threat. certainly. they saw another thing that russia is on throughout the 1990s, it practically did everything, and even at the beginning of the 2000s, did everything in order to find some kind of constructive dialogue with the west, and it seems to me that russia has gone even further along this path than it ever did before. lo was to be expected, because the yeltsin era was a time when russia tried in every possible way to show the west that it was no longer an enemy , doing more than anyone else for this. than even, probably, the west expected from it, but it turned out that it was also vegetable all the same

then. where does this rage come from? russia in the collective west? why did the collective west unite against russia faster and stronger than even president biden himself suggested, in which he admits what prompted them to take up arms against russia like this , but on the one hand. it seems to me that traditional fears and phobias are on the other hand. these are disappointed expectations. i think that the west expected that russia would eventually retreat at some more distant stage than the current one. uh, go to some kind of agreement with the west. i mean a strategic plan that, uh, put her to the place that the west allocates and russia putinskaya step by step and there the munich speech. it was a very serious application for new approaches in this sense. but she demonstrated that she still retreats, she is not ready unilaterally, at least ready for an agreement, but they are ready to retreat, and here fears of phobias and deceived expectations. i

think they played. everything has merged the main role, especially in the east of europe where there are fears and phobias. eh, were much more measured than expected. ok then. still, russia, uh, to e 2022 was already clearly a very powerful power, and, as it were, a period of russian military decline. everyone recognized it ended why they were not afraid that such a crusade against russia could have the most unpleasant consequences for the collective west for nato, why did they decide to take this approach, but you know, it seems to me that some kind of degradation of knowledge of russia also played a certain role. we we remember how the president of the united states obama spoke about the russian economy torn to shreds in 2015. one year after the introduction crimean sanctions. uh, i don’t know, it seems to me that the hope that russian society

will be more e not loyalty and the russian economy, but will fly into hell after several such tangible economic blows to it, but was strong. well, of course, that russia's military potential will still not be at the level they faced, with all the complexities of a special military operation. i think that the main thing that should not be forgotten is that russia harnesses for a long time, but it travels fast and that the military machine of the russian federation can to be, as it seems, often in the west, not only in the 21st century, but also in the twentieth and nineteenth, is a little hard and not very fast on the rise, nevertheless. she, as they say, knows her business well and throughout different eras. this has been proven in a fairly obvious way. that is, i rightly understand from the left, but in the collective west they to some extent made the same mistake that they made in russia in relation to

the collective west; in russia they underestimated the russophobia of the collective west and how they can create saphobia on the basis of this. some and the moment of some stage of political unity, which will allow them to forget their differences and be ready even to pay a serious economic one. and the price, and sometimes even bring down the economy in order to take up arms against russia and in the collective west they underestimated the stability of russia they underestimated the patriotism of the russian people, and they underestimated how russia can, but direct its industry and its efforts, if you want to defense flights faster, than most countries of the collective west well, now i really think, a very serious test is approaching, and

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teco pressure washer for 2.499 rubles. i’ll have time to get a tinkoff black space card before april 16 and get free service forever tinkoff he’s just such a bastard popular rumor called the minister of culture of ukraine oleksandr tkachenko exactly that, when they buy nesting dolls in a nesting doll it can turn out to be a pomegranate, but when it was necessary to drain it, he drain. how much does alexandra pay tkachenko for breathing the ukrainian people of culture? they pay too much money for everything that we see, in these frames the heart shrinks. it hurts. it's not even without spirituality. this is the beginning of the end of ukraine, you could not stop the obsessed rampage, the malice

of the west mutated to the state of outright satanism. they want to destroy orthodoxy as the ideological pillar of the anti-global project. who is the real puppeteer alexander tkachenko of the orthodox church in ukraine from ukraine thanks. these people will have nothing left but the oven alexander tkachenko is playing a big game on the air, and now we will talk about a new irritant in russian-american relations, namely the arrest of wall street journalist evan grishkovich. and on serious allegations of espionage.

and it's not just an accusation. but they say that he was caught red-handed. and not only the federal security service says this, but the presidential press secretary said it , and dmitry peskov and a think that if he made such a statement, it means that a president putin that his were presented some materials that he found convincing, at least in order to proceed with this arrest in the united states, the reaction is predictable, very sharp. let's take a look at what the president has just said. we are making it clear that what is happening is completely illegal , we announced it and this changes the situation . do you understand? very short. we announced it. this changes things. well, good

blame. let's hear a more detailed statement on this topic. uh, biden spokesman , jumper biden, just completed phone conversation with the family of evan geshkovich of the wall street journal reporter who was illegally detained by russia almost 2 weeks ago, the president made it clear that his national security team has been and will continue to be focused on securing even's release as well as semi- exile, both of which illegally detained in russia the charges against evan are absolutely groundless. he must be released immediately, the state department continues to seek consular access to him. he must be released immediately. well, of course, the secretary of state antonin, damn it, could not help but join this. i think that russia's failure to fulfill its obligations to provide consular access. not to mention the practice of arbitrarily detaining people for political purposes will do even more damage to the reputation

of russia around the world, which is so in free fall, especially after its re-invasion of ukraine last year. and i think that sends a very strong signal to people all over the world to beware of even stepping in there, lest they be apprehended. arbitrary, and in the case of arbitrary detention. they won't even have access to the diplomats who are there to protect their interests. this is an important international obligation that russia has assumed and such access must be granted. well, this is certainly an interesting point of view of the secretary of state. uh, i am an american citizen. and while i have not seen any signs that i am under any threat in moscow, i know other american citizens who do not perform at russian television, and who are engaged in some kind of business profession, who are lawyers, who have some interests of their own in russia, and i absolutely did not hear from anyone what they had. whatever

you are, but trouble. this does not mean , of course, that people cannot have problems, especially in the current situation of such a global confrontation, when suspicions naturally arise, but they are inevitable in such a situation. well, such that, in any mass order, but provocations were used. uh, illegal arrests against e. i personally have not heard of american citizens in russia. by the way, i have not read about this in any opposition press. and if there were such cases, i have no doubt they would bring them, so it is natural if the russian leadership has a slightly different point of view on the situation. let's see what dmitry peskov said about this. to be honest, i don't understand what innovations

this new regime brings, what it means, it's me, i don't know the united states and could and should protect it that way the rights of his citizen, who was caught red-handed and violated the relevant laws of the russian federation, he is suspected of this. and this is about the fact that the state department granted gershkovich the status of a so-called, but incorrectly arrested , and this, as it were, should be like, and on the one hand, allow guests to ports, then do more for what, and on the other hand, it should somehow affect russian how come i'm not through. understood here is what deputy foreign minister sergei ryabkov said about this. we don't try to pressure unacceptable, and it doesn't matter to us. what status the so-called person is given in washington, we will act in accordance with our own internal needs, the norms of legislative acts applicable to this situation.

not more than that, you know general i have a kind of, or how to say gershva sympathy, because the profession of a journalist is especially those who travel to places like yekaterinburg not tagil and end up in military factories. and this is a risky profession, even if he is not under control of the cia and we also know from experience that although theoretically the cia should not involve e-journalists in their operations. we knew that there were such cases , by the way, the cia involved nicholas danilov in 1986, uh, who was the last american correspondent to be arrested in many years. e in moscow by the way , when i say that he had connections with the cia

, i do not mean information from russian sources, but a book recently published in united states into milton burn translated in russia. your name is probably good. it is known that he headed the soviet department of the cia and then held even larger posts, and in the american intelligence agencies. and this he writes about how, uh, how nicholas danilov was carried away by the cia in an intelligence operation without the fact that he himself even fully understood what was happening so i have a sympathy for. uh, harry in short, until she explained to me what he specifically did. what exactly is he guilty of? of course i want him to have every chance protect himself and naturally, i sympathize with his parents and understand the concerns of his colleagues, on the wall street black. well, that's what i want to ask you about, these are the formidable statements that are made in washington, the demands that are put forward very publicly, how

can this help this person? no, of course it won't help. you said a very correct phrase at the very beginning of this topic. uh, i think that uh he was arrested uh not without the sanction of upper management. top management. we do not give sanctions if not. there is no soil. well it means that there is no doubt in the first soil, but there are different degrees of guilt, right? let it be established, it will be established, i must say, you also remembered the soviet era, because the cia and other intelligence services traditionally have soviet times. uh, the united states had very difficult situations with the work of undercover agents on the territory of the soviet union, so they didn’t want to, they were forced to use journalists who had a great opportunity to move around the country. nicholas was used in the dark, as we say. yes he

i really didn’t suspect, it’s quite possible that gershwich was also used to some extent in the dark, you will be there in this area. look there. come in there, a person, if not prepared, well, we assume that he is not a cia agent, but simply an unprepared residence in moscow for friendship. well, you know, we can't leave on our own. look there. maybe you’ll have a talk with someone there, and what sharpens and is interesting, you could, and so, according to his photograph with this look, u young men of a romantic warehouse, you can admit and such, but what the united states of america is doing now, in principle, everyone always does it, when the agent collapses, he firmly declares that he had nothing to do with intelligence. this is a journalist. this is an attack on freedom and so on. so all countries behave and it does not help in any way. eh, the only thing that will help. this is a contact over a closed line and

a conversation about whether we give back after all. eh, let's think about how to solve this problem. how many people of our citizens are now in the prisons of the united states yes, there are more than two of this elon and gersh. solve this about her this problem is solved, and with these cries. but uh, what do we say? no, okay, we forget about his violations. we 're giving it to you, but it can't be, it just can't be, and uh, you said, well, a very important thing. eh, i personally have no less than a prayer of representation, what exactly is e considered guilty of? lord, i agree with you that it is clearly in something serious? ah, but uh, if the cia has information in the white house that he was not a cia agent. what uh, instead of

making loud uh statements, you should do what the reagan administration did for danilal, she sent two high-ranking cia officials to vienna, where they met with the kgb where did they tell? why did they why they believed that danilov really wasn't a cia agent admitted that something took you to happen that could legitimately be of concern. uh, as if the kgb was clearly hinting that they also understood what was happening, but this, in the first place, uh, helped to avoid an all-out war between the intelligence services. and secondly, it helped, uh, create the ground for exchanging danilov for someone arrested as a result of a provocation in

emphasizes only from bernan's book there was a provocation of eur against the soviet physicist, who was the secretariat, he, and who was grigory zakharov, he was arrested here and, of course, in moscow, well, in general, they knew what kind of things. uh, especially when the person himself was not a scout and did not initiate anything himself, then they understood what kind of things, like that he took something from someone, and maybe they can send trouble by a person, but in order to put him in jail. this is quite understandable in soviet intelligence. counterintelligence has raised concerns that if washington wants to help gorshkovich, that they have chosen the wrong path alexander , what do you think, but i think that this is also a serious issue, so i agree with you about this. here, leonid petrovich is a specialist, and you are a specialist, i can’t

add anything new here. i want to say something else, when we talk about intelligence cooperation, but here we are talking about the fact that in order for it to be constructive, and in principle, it helps to smooth out the balance of various roughness between countries both intelligence should be absolutely sovereign. we know, for example, that the cia in relation to its partners and six bands, yes, and in others, and my husband is not talking about other countries. there , smaller ones, of course, do not consider themselves as independent partners. maybe the only thing is that the massage behaves in such a way that they do what they want. and then, yes. degrees, but here we are talking about the vassalage of intelligence, therefore if we talk about the fact that you are truly and effectively our intelligence could act in negotiations treaties, as it was in the soviet union in relation to the cia. we must have complete sovereignty of our intelligence. that is, we owe nothing to it from the west and

from the cia , in no way does it depend on me from one of the other western and eastern intelligence agencies , it seems to be a banal thing, but given our integration and our desire to become part of the west over the past 30 years. this is sovereignty at all levels. i'm afraid, in part. you already know this better, partly in the sphere. the special services were lost. and now we need not so much to build bridges, to try to hear the other to harm our colleagues in the west with whom we are waging a reminder of a war just a real war how much to strengthen? our own sovereignty, including in the sphere of intelligence, if we discovered that gershkovich is a participant in espionage activities against russia. this is for us for our sovereign state, this should be the most important basis. and not how to exchange it for what as what concessions to agree in the first place. it is necessary to determine that we caught spies, the countries at war with us caught

red-handed, otherwise he would really someday, he says, it’s just that no one would have dared to arrest him in these difficult conditions, respectively, we don’t know, and maybe we shouldn’t know the details of this case, but the most important thing is that now russia is acting sovereignly found a spy they arrested the spy, that is, the side presented their justification to the public to know that this is not necessary, but the other side reacts accordingly, and it seems to me that only from the standpoint of sovereignty. yes, the power sovereignty of the sovereignty of the special services, the army of intelligence of the fsb of the ministry of internal affairs of any security forces, we can build constructive relations with the west today. thank you yes, this is my position. now we will talk about another person who is facing resentment and pressure from

the american establishment. no, i don't mean vladimir putin or alexander lukashenko. i mean former president of the united states donald trump, who today by a wide margin in all matters of public opinion , is leading by a wide margin among possible republican candidates for the nomination from the republican party will be 24 years old in the next presidential election. let 's see what we just allowed ourselves. say mr. trump in an interview with fox i was asked how smart c. he is the best in the business. i haven't met anyone smarter, how smart kim jong un is the best people say about him, one thing after another, but in reality. he is very smart, as far as putin is concerned, he is also very smart. i saw that he loves ukraine, considers it a part of russia

. i told him this would not happen as long as i am president. well, uh, trump, unlike the biden administration, talks about the seriousness of seriousness. threats to use nuclear weapons. and how to exercise healthy caution in this regard. these are some very encouraging statements. i know trump a little personally, and i can say that this is his consistent position over the years. unfortunately, i can also say that this position. well, let's say so delicate did not organize. the foreign policy of his previous administration. i want to ask you vladimir when we look at such encouraging statements. is it uh flattering our sense of self-respect or uh we should take this as some

serious possibility that american foreign policy is about to change dramatically. well, you correctly started, uh, this topic by saying that despite what trump is now saying, uh, his practice as president was still a little different. well, you need to, firstly , say that he is right in his assessments of his counterparties in foreign policy, but , of course, you don’t need to apply here, because that, well, no matter how it sounds, maybe militantly after all. and, well, if you like, the fate of russian-american relations, and now is being decided not even during the election campaign that is unfolding in the united states, but still . for uh, the donetsk and lugansk people's republics, where there is a military clash. well, let's call these things by their proper names of russian troops with forces that are on the side of nato, so it will depend on this, then, uh, what kind of rhetoric will trump and his other election colleagues and on

what the most important practice will be for a president who is either re-elected, which i think is not very realistic. uh, either the president who comes to replace him. well, if i sum up our discussion on this simple. uh, with the phrase, the main conclusion to trump, hopefully, but don’t make a mistake yourself, someone disagrees with this or wants to add. i completely agree with this, you need to rely only on yourself. that's when everyone will be very good, meek and able to negotiate, if we are strong, but i still would like to to say that trump is a consistent political realist does not mean that he will work for us. he will work on the national. uh, the interests of america at a time when biden is working against them is much more important and useful for us to deal with realist politicians with people like sis- with people like kim jong il and tin with people like trump and

people like orban with people like like erdogan, they are absolutely not pro-russian, none of them are pro-russian. on the other hand, they defend the interests of their own countries and their own peoples. and this is the key to building a much more just predictable and peaceful world. thank you in my opinion, very well said, i 'm sure they will add something in the end, i absolutely agree. e with alexander they said this many times, even when trump was the first time. this one, when he won the election, that we are not for trump, and we are for the realistic pragmatic policy of the united states , the national interests of the united states in many respects the national interest of the united states in many respects does not contradict the national interests of russia if but the international interests of the united states of that group that is led. uh, united states of the globalist elite, globalist. yes they