tim, like trump and with people like orban with people like erdogan, they are absolutely not pro-russian , none of them are about russian, but they defend the interests of their own countries and their own peoples. and this is the key to building a much more just predictable and peaceful world. thank you, i think that's very well said, but i 'm sure they have something to add as well, and i totally agree. e with alexander gerech. and we repeatedly. this was even said when trump was the first time. e this one, when he won the election, that we are not for trump, and we are for a realistic pragmatic policy of the united states, the national interests of the united states in many respects the national interests of the united states in many respects do not contradict the national interests of russia if but the international interests of the united states are the group that is guided. uh, the united states is a globalist globalist elite yes, they not only contradict, but are not directed

against our interests in general, the collapse into a split, the collapse of russia, so i'm trump fans, but we understand that this person at the very least, but he reflects. uh, interests. the national interests, the united states of america proper, the state of america and not, uh, pre-, uh, hegemot state that claims to rule the whole world. i think here uh this is the root point of the root question. uh, i think it's unrealistic to expect from any american president. for him to love russia, this would work like a boomerang . it is unrealistic to expect him to follow the interests of russia, because not all interests coincide. ah, it is in the interests of russia to have a realist president who would defend america’s national interests, including, when

you need to do it firmly, as trump promises to do but on the other hand, so that the interests of, uh, america are determined, as determined by the founding fathers, that is , quite specifically without pretensions to being at the same time a world region and , if you like, the high priest of mankind, if the american president e did not occupy these positions at the same time as the head of the universe and the high priest. i think in russian american relations. there might have been a change of non-arising, friendship but some wear and tear normalization. thank you it was a great game see you again tomorrow on the air. i have a guest pilot cosmonaut hero of russia alexander misyurkin not so long ago we flew together for the first time prepared olivier in

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hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shklarov is a podcast of space stories. today we have an unusual holiday a special episode of the podcast dedicated to the international cosmonautics day, so today i am visiting. my colleague friend pilot cosmonaut hero of russia alexander misyurkin. by the way, this is not our first space trip with you. hi anton , that's right. but we did not meet on the day of cosmonautics or next to the day of cosmonautics in space. yes, now we have met, so, probably, let's first congratulate everyone on cosmonautics day. friends from the bottom of my heart i congratulate you on the next anniversary of yuri's astronautics flight alekseevich gagarin, with his flight, he then united all people around the earth and we all , probably, were at some point united in the spirit

of this flight, and i really wish that today i remember the day of cosmonautics. we again tried to be closer to each other. it seems that not so long ago we flew together. this was your second space flight. it was very interesting we played badminton. we celebrated birthdays. new year's eve prepared olivier in space for the first time. and for me it was also another flight that i remember totally especially, of course, our spacewalk. how are you remember, we were not going to not make any records. we have been preparing for it for a long time on earth. and so it happened. yes, after 6:00 we already had hours of work, in my opinion, yes, we had to return and continue our work for another 2 hours. and thanks to this, today the station operates 6s. this is a new type of communication in russia and in better quality than even our colleagues. we can video every day. here i was

just with a group of filmmakers. uh, every morning, a good connection was with the soup you could discuss these working moments. sasha, how do you like this flight the first thing i have to say is our new year's legal day off. we will misunderstand this. the first game sport in space in the history of mankind. it was a bangton. and thank you for supporting me in this our space olivier with you, he is the most space in my life, because not only was he in orbit. it was the first time in my life in general, well, and most importantly, we went to see our own crew. remember, then all the americans liked it, they asked us cook like this every friday. and the way out is, of course, yes. this is serious work. there would be more such work, i would very much like to do it more, but moreover, badminton was not just played there. yes, they played there officially,

rackets were loaded, we prepared. uh, first of all, we prepared a japanese mod. yes, but, unfortunately, we did not remove one computer, and after our shooting it turned out that we broke one of the new computers and our friend e marker had a good rest. took over said he broke it and i don't know how expensive our badmit game cost him. he. well, they were. we specially filmed frames for the video, because at that time the universiade universiade tournament was taking place on the ground in kazan. yes, e bowed and now i can be proud that i have a gold medal at home. that's right out of that kit, because us. e, those who took part in this game on board na were awarded gold. i suggest we have a small video to watch this to remember how it was

by the way, the rackets were left on board, the guys can now there is no playing under the concrete. i think that these famous rackets, of course, are a relic, of course, a museum. maybe home alone huh? yes, yes, yes the second time

we met, when you brought this amazing, in my opinion, crew, two tourists at once, we have never had anything like this before, two japanese, two billionaires in a million, as i understand it? uh, i don’t know, they were surprised at everything there, they are so funny, they are polite people in life. do you remember their reaction, when did you start, when did you get to the station? you are over 70 after all communicated with him, helped to tell everything, well, as it were, he protected them. uh, i think that was your most important task, besides, of course, to prepare the ship for the return. well , yes, and so that they do not break the station. yes, but we all followed this, yes, because they didn’t treat themselves with this. you know, i remember that, firstly, i somehow listened to the feedback from previous crews when preparing how they will treat the station.

yes, how careful they are economically, but maybe this is precisely the japanese mentality. took our lens and forgot to hang it. in the same place where i took it, apparently, i was tired. i took something to him in one place. put it there. well, this is how it should be in general at the station, of course. yeah but i mean what i was apparently tired and he felt the notes of my emotional upset, and then he told me so in the evening, and with sasha i understand how hard it is for you. please forgive me that you started there because of me. although it was actually a trifle, and earlier there were much more not connected with them to do hara-kiri, or you forgave him, yes, and after parsing they are like that, and we tried very hard to treat the russian segment with care, well, in general, to the station and uh , during our use of the toilet, we never had, no

standard situation, which was prepared on the ground. oh yes, well, that's to the fact that they were very neat. i am very grateful to them for this, of course, it was different from our cinematic group. yes, they were hit in filming. if you need to prepare. uh, some module to them, at his own discretion, removed everything that he wanted, promised to return everything back and then they saw that he didn’t return anything much, because he had to deal with another module the next day and the only thing he said, guys if you don't find something there and the earth will be outraged. blame everything on us, but we even, in my opinion, were given 3 days to sing, so that we could return something back, and so we walked straight and looked, from left to right, we drilled everything. e with a database, where what thing should lie. well, then, anyway, they couldn’t either find something, or, on the contrary, they found it and there for a long time. yes, after them, sasha, i know that you are very much interested in the future future of the earth space to talk a little about it. yes, let's ah colonize new planets. well now it's natural. uh, the first one

we have the moon further than mars this is our next e projects this is the space programs leading space powers your vision for development. e, not only pilotin, astronautics in general in this direction. you and i know together, yes, that, in particular , they are developing our partners to develop their lunar program, that the chinese are flying there. ah, but we are unfortunately not flying there yet, and for me the biggest disappointment or not disappointment is the frustration of understanding the fact that as civilization grows , in a sense, the scale increases. here. uh, while i lived in one small town. yes and i went through several districts of my school. i had a grid of coordinates. here , yours, not yours, yes, you moved to another city. there is a university, a flying school. any

person from your city. you are the most dear , regardless of where he lives, a fellow countryman. yes, he earth moved you to training there in houston and met you heard russian speech in a supermarket - this is the person closest to you. here came out. you are outside the atmosphere. there is no one for you for the sake of no closer. than such homo sapiens somehow you seem to me, in this there is a certain study of the law of nature, if civilization comes out. here we are technologically ahead of our mental development and i am not talking about this alone. isaac asimov, for example, he said that the saddest thing today is that the development of science is going much earlier than the mental development of society. yes, and what will happen if the society has not yet matured mentally, but has already gained access to some advanced technologies. we understand that this is very dangerous. this is where the difficulty lies. and where to technology development will move, and it is clear that we are all active today and are looking for

exoplanets. and that is, we continue to expand, that is, from the ground. now every earth is not us, uh, native independence, so uh. well, i at least believe that i have not seen always say it's honest. i have not seen any aliens flying for those who are now commenting on your words. well, yes, you can’t, but some papers were signed there, right? well, i definitely believe that we cannot be one in this boundless cosmos of the universe. yes, there is more 5,000 exoplanets, yes, that revolve around each luminary, that is, the stars in the sky, have already been discovered, for sure. there are those who are there. yes, in the same orbit as well, i think so, how the earth is very so comfortable where, of course, this is the radius, and depending on the intensity of the star. and the radius where the planet could be. eh, and where is the water, if it is there, is in three

states of aggregation. this is called the benefit of life. yes, let's take a different look at how a person's ideas about the world have changed at first it was believed that it was a flat earth, then that it was round in the center of the world. naturally. we all need to be in the center. that's when we decided. okay okay, so be it. there is not a single smart person there. burnt decided that we are still one of the planet. sol- the sun is not in the center of the whole world, but for a long time it was believed that there are no other planets on one simple basis, we do not see them, which means they do not exist. yes, yes, and that's only at the end of the last millennium. more exoplanets have been found. after all, this is only a matter of statistics, and we just need a lot, well, we want ourselves similar, if for your life, but find it clear that colonization will be correct. that's colonization. well, what kind of planets? this , of course, is still too, to put it mildly, too ambitious, yes, but the fact that there are planets, approaches that are suitable for our life is biological - this is 100%. that is,

a person. it will be able to live and develop only to fly when we can do it there, yes, and even under the degree of similarity. uh, the earth-likeness index already exists today, but if we compare the mass by criteria, and its planets size and position here in this belt of life according to these two criteria. there is a planet with an earth index, like 0.95. it is almost like the earth, and then it remains that there was water, an oxygen atmosphere and a magnetic field only when you have a sample of only 100,000 100 million stars in our galaxy. yes, and the galaxy 100 billion 100 billion stars and 100 billion galaxies. you realize that in this sample, well, there are guaranteed to be planets like that when it's us, when we get to them. come on, it’s even hard, although progress is coming from a huge step, progress is coming the 20th century showed how everything has stepped.

yes, i've never thought about this before, but it turns out that we all live according to exponential laws, that is , everything changes non-linearly, and exponentially is one thing, when you know about this they say about technologies that they develop exponentially there, that is, almost with a geometric progression. and if you look at us people, here is life on earth, it originated 4 billion years ago, the biological 4 billion years ago was rewound. only 100,000 years ago humans appeared. in 1800 there were a billion of us in 1900 billion-600 in 2000 there is 7 billion. here it is this exponent for a long, long, long time there and here it shoots and this is like a general law of nature and we are just one of the elements that lives according to this exponent. well, when we move to a new house. so let's call it to a new planet. you know, i honestly think that, uh, we're getting to the point of living with

ourselves. until then, we'll live. i think until another more important point. but in order to go there, we need to go through it. you know how, if we draw an analogy, there is a theory of black and white holes, why are you in a black hole you fly in and hop elsewhere in the universe white holes flew out. here we have a more serious challenge before us. we've gotten to the point where technology is growing with this exponential growth of everything in life. the number of people is growing, and the problem is growing, their significance , their number, and the most important task for humanity. in my opinion. today is to overcome this point of exponential collection of all crises. if we overcome it, then the unbelievable awaits us, just a fantastic life of humanity, but the great chances that we we will not overcome it. but irwin corwin , for example, and a hollywood actor back in the last

century said that if we do not hurry to change direction. then we run the risk of arriving where the damn thing comes from, that is, when cellular biological life, and while we are clearly working according to this plan, that is, we still need to concentrate on our land percent ecology 100%. well, in particular, and according to the consolidated opinion of most climatologists, if in the next 12 years we cannot keep warming at the level of one and a half degrees, then global climate catastrophes. on earth will not be disgusting. we emit 40 billion tons of carbon dioxide. in a year this is as much as the whole of africa, plus another third of africa, would also absorb in a year. can you imagine how much we throw away and we survive

a bunch of animals from this biosphere. we will have problems, most likely with the availability of available fresh water. we are talking about humanity in general. i don't take all others. there are geopolitical problems and technological problems in the form of artificial intelligence. what to do with him? and how should we help just to cope with this disease of pollution of the planet, the destruction of our home , the first question and many people believe that artificial intelligence. will never become as smart as a human and is now abbreviated as da arto-phishings, and other scholars believe that agi arta fishel jones is comparable to a human. will appear already there, someone says, the next decades, many scientists agree that it will appear in the middle of this century, the question is, even before it has appeared. in whose hands will these neural networks be used.

well, they themselves are probably such a vivid example , uh, already used from such weapons , you can probably say cybernetic , we remember the destruction of centrifuges in iran yes , when they were able to introduce a virus there, which eventually led to the fact that these centrifuges began to spin up to complete destruction instantaneous settings man is not only an enemy to man, but also a man surrounding everything living around him is an enemy, and so, if this paradigm is not changed, behavior. then we are not we can with the same artificial intelligence, when it is in theory, i believe that it will move to the next stage of its development and become aji, that is, an independent personality who has not just been trained on a large amount of information, about which he will be able to think and make independent decisions. here, to build some kind of relationship with him. you must mentally initially communicate with him not as a subordinate or as a slave or as a thing,

because as soon as he becomes aware of himself. he will immediately become much smarter overnight, there and a means stronger humanity. and if we start this relationship with a relationship. i am strong. i'm right. you are my slave, as soon as he becomes stronger, he will change everything. here's how not to behave. we must first do this among ourselves between people and between people and nature, i heard i read, but in an open letter, yes, which i even signed that it was to stop training neural networks, right? and the development of artificial intelligence, although it seems to be needed, and everyone understands it, everyone is developing it, and here is one of the e. the same leaders founding. yes, and he says no. gotta stop. well, not only to become, they call to stop and develop uniform rules for relations with artificial intelligence. one of it can be said from the ascetics. uh. this is max professor m.a.t., who just

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ago, in order to implement it, powerful powerful hardware, powerful computers were needed. yes, large computing power, which appeared in the first place. these are all sorts of gpus that are needed for games that are used for mining. that's when it all appeared, it became possible to train neural networks. learns from big data and then e can from what they learned something from new from the same series to mix. yes, but it's poor-quality new ones. uh, decisions are some qualitatively new judgments of the gram. this program can be downloaded to your phone. yes, there are those that can be downloaded on well , at least on a computer on a laptop for sure, and well, everyone knows the most. yes, that such programs would have learned to play chess there, defeated a person, and this happened in the late nineties. well then, for a very long time. those who do not accept neural networks

believed that this is all nonsense, there is chinese go game in which intuition is not needed there , a computer will never beat a person in a lifetime. it's been 20 years there. and it happened more than that, went ahead and created the next generation of this program, which is unlike the first generations. where they put the entire array of human experience data into this game, but the next version of the program did not give any experience at all. they just set the rules of the game and set a goal, she played herself for 4 hours and then defeated the one that had previously defeated a person. it is clear that today is there everyone, and neural networks are already heard by everyone as chat gpt me. and when you drive a text, and therefore a picture is created for you. but the most global application of useful from the point of view of our life, perhaps, an example can be taken from biology.

uh, scientists have long known the molecules of the formulas of the molecules of various proteins that we will be made of, but as it turned out for these proteins, their functions and properties depend not only on the formula, but on the spatial structure of the molecule. and here are some short proteins, scientists could understand their spatial position, understand their properties from this, as for long structures, it wasn’t that there weren’t even ideas. how to understand this is the spatial structure of the molecule. artificial intelligence, having turned out on the amount of data that scientists were able to , was able to somehow decipher the volumetric structure of long proteins. and today , tens of thousands of them have already been deciphered. this is from the fact that it is very serious, yes, the gpt chat, as it were, has already passed a few. uh, iterations of several software updates. i have read one report. in comparison, what they can, what they cannot

, so that everyone who watches us can evaluate the possibilities in the description , a task was given that was assigned to different levels of version weighting. this is chat gt to other neural networks. and that's just gpt for gt4. this is what elon musk was talking about , neural networks are harder than gpt 4, please don't teach. and what, what was the task? the hunter goes south for 1 kilometer, then turns east. another kilometer passes, then turns north and passes another kilometer. and here he turns out to be at the point from which he started his movement the question what color bears did he meet he met a polar bear, because such a situation is possible only at the north pole. you went once to the south strictly to the east, and then to the north

is not perpendicular, as it were, but to the north to the north, which means along the meridian and you are the conditions that you ended up at the same point somewhere, you started here, the queen’s earth rotates no one canceled. in general, here are uh all levels and chat gpt below the fourth and other neural networks that were tested they did not answer this question correctly correctly uneven network gp4 answered correctly. they gave the second problem as an example: you flew east on a plane, flew due east, flew 40,000 km and ended up at the same point where you started the question. what kind of tigers could you see? the correct answer is all any tigers that live far away, because 40,000 in a closed trajectory is just the length of the perimeter along the equator. here is a gpt 4 chat of this level of problems, having learned from arrays of information, it can solve from

applications so narrow applications, probably well, about the same space with you. yes, the most extreme example of er, the use of neural networks to discover exoplanets. what is the principle of the basis of one of the principles of how exoplanets are discovered is the photometric principle, when the planet passes, uh, in front of its star that we observe. the planet near this star, we can observe for some time changes in the brightness of the glow of the star, because the planet passes in front of it. and so, uh, they first trained on the already known exoplates. this is in the neural a network where we knew for sure that there was an exoplanet, and then she would further try the whole massive e, a telescope with already known that there are already some exoplanets there, but suddenly there is more and please, this neural network has found. there are already more than one planet near those stars

that are definitely not visible with modern telescopes. especially since here to see the planet with a resolution of 1.000 by 1.000 pixels. we need a telescope with a mirror diameter of 80 km. a goat, of course, is impossible, and you have met piloted pilots, we have not met, but i think you will agree, but today we are flying at the station, and i have such an association that we are just like an umbilical cord and tied to soup. yes, there are huge amounts of telemetric information processed by the tsup, where there are many people who are highly specialized professionals in their field. as soon as we talk about flights. uh, well, if there is no current to mars, yes, otherwise this is already a competence. a broader analysis, considering the duration of

the signal transfer back and forth should be transmitted set. and that means the same e. well, if not agi, then at least ai, that is today's a generation of artificial intelligence that can analyze where you went? what kind of failures or current surges does it mean to check that gas station or that fan, it turns out that here the scientific component is useful to her a little, who is involved? well, talk about biology there cs use for today. yes, basically now people, what do they use it as a toy. yes, they are immersed in the neural network. they live there. they buy something there, build something, i don’t know, they fight. yes, and most importantly, it seems to me that humanity. well, i don't know, this layer. it's in mostly young people, let's take it, yes modern youth. it is a little bit in the wrong place, it starts to leave, that is, not to develop what we are talking about now high technologies, but they are sitting and leaving. well, i don't know the phone number. a computer is a computer and they live right there, they forget what is going on around, in fact, there are other bodies

that need to be dealt with at all. you live in a society. you are the socius. but you know, i'm not in a hurry to make a judgment here whether or not they are doing the right things. they live according to the vector, according to which, again, here, according to some kind of exponent, the development of homo sapiens. in particular , one of the mass migrations that is expected in the near future is assumed. this is just immigration into the digital space. that is, in an alternate reality. right. yes, this is a virtual reaction of the city there, yes, you communicate and have such entertainment clothes. confirmation. do you remember the movie, this is exactly what you are talking about, but if you think about it, there are those who seriously believe that we can digitize consciousness and there a biological person can die and his