konstantinovich we are different, because the hissing of a cobra will be, i began to think to myself, but what is different than yes? timbre? no? here is a snippet. let's get a look. eh, everything was clear, and uh, consider it for so

to speak, let's say professionalism. no, absolutely far. this is the only one. i can not agree was, as the name of the most distinguished. yes, and we worked with him in the same concert, then lida was from the category. here she is, and here he is. well, he’s generally a star, so to speak, it’s in the genre and they had times and it’s better of course, but even this and that impressive. uh-huh, it used to be far away, just a pancake, well, the idea itself was an idea, how scared i was, damn it. right now, volodya is sitting right here, right now, we are missing, because for the first time we sang, we compliment these people there. because others just kick us off

the stage when we met. that's even before the start of filming with marina vladimirovna ah. i looked at the book and read it. i immersed myself in this and realized what a huge responsibility it is to me. and marina vladimirovna told me that lydia karmalskaya had a peculiarity. these are her hands. i'm like this i looked at my hands and realized what to do with it? no no, what is the vibrator for? no, this is me, she is all this. i just realized it's the director. yes, to be honest, it’s okay with her hands, because she probably had something in mind that these were long arms, which were one, if she whistledalar her hands moved in one, if she whistled to a naessk, this is different, if this there was annitra dance, that was the third. she worked with them , plus everything is no secret that my mother had been ill. in early childhood, poliomyelitis and

she was. well, no one could understand it at all, because you can imagine the dark scene. uh-huh, and a woman comes out with a beam of light, but she doesn’t go straight. she walks with her back , moves and looks at the birds. birds sing and sing and everyone can't understand what's going on. these birds whistled. mom was a nightingale and a lark everything. and how she and larga bach came out beautifully when the candles were lit. e about this performance, one fact is that she took a technical piece. one of the most technical for whistling, in general for any country. this is ideal, in general, even now i have it now there is also a scene. she was so afraid, there are places where karmalsky come, when the philharmonic vladimir da selects girls for the cameraman listens to different voices

and she , of course, there is such a scene as she comes in and says, volodya , how to wash his voice, that my voice is no longer the same, or i , maybe volodya is no longer the same, and i and she show there my power of my character and power of your voice. this was such an answer. i probably told me to do it, and to me it's a scene. yes, i liked it very much. that's because i can honestly say. this is called hmm finally. mom showed her character is. yes, of course, and what to pull? let's go right here in front of all the comrades. please explain girl

, please, thank you girl 390. excuse me, you can and i was driving home, my soul was full or volodya needs to be higher, just tell me how you held the pen. help. be kind growth. just not enough. i was driving home, my soul was full or volodya needs more help and i was driving home the soul was full. not suitable. he knows everything very well. it’s just that he’s not the right voice, or maybe i’m not the same volodenka, i don’t suit you. you tell me in front of everyone , with a comrade, that the character, we showed, in principle, the character, of course, was

. this woman was very, yes. she is very strong, so powerful, yes, the main thing is that she did it publicly, that's because she never allowed herself. here's how to hit it? yes, and here it’s just already and the scene of parting is a lot of complicated prices there , this episode, which we discussed now aha i i just want to illuminate it, highlight it from the other side. now, if it’s publicly like this, and such scenes were not only blinding, there with any performer, to the joy of a musician, musicians who let someone else’s family life pass through themselves and all these contradictions are the prize of predictable relatives, damn it, on the contrary, they either worry or laugh and rejoice, like children. here they are at last, and me first. well, how can you survive it? this is her c reliable and i accepted it by that time and didn’t see anything here, and my wife and i were cooler. although no, not not publicly sounding, but by the nature of the explosion

accumulates accumulates then as in it in in when the witnesses already don't care what they think there and the musicians who are there. well, come on, come on, wow , well done, well done! give it to him, there is complexity. i'm talking about the complexity of this, and yet, without this episode, there was no certainty of such a life. uh-huh, and she is definitely responsible, amazing, i want to reassure and be glad that they got around at such a moment, life is full of such negatives, but she really showed her character in him. a where else would mine see what it really is? well, vladimir himself in the cinema, as it seemed to you, how close to reality is as close as possible to the maximum. not actually, but such is the life of life and i am surprised by people who are screenwriters. uh, almost everyone did not know, volodya in general. uh-huh well, in general, except for vital

, when the music is now, he even worked. we have a little bit of a director there, yeah, he’s a minesweeper, and in all credibility, a departure from something was not right, there weren’t such options for the development of events. this is a meatfish podcast of life, the end of the first series of our conversation, coming soon second. hello, my name is dmitry bagh and i invite you to a literary podcast. let them not speak. let them read. today we have an amazing program, because it is dedicated to space, we read in space. we are talking about this, what is space for modern civilization for modern culture. we understand, we always remember what space is for russia what is april 12

to our country, and i am preparing for this program. i even thought that our studio, similar to the iss, is not in it, there are no windows. i learned before the program portholes watch the earth about it. we 'll talk today. i even think that if we all concentrate, then weightlessness will come . but at least from our conversations this flight should come. especially with such wonderful guests who are with me today in the studio - this is oleg viktorovich novitsky, pilot of the cosmonauts of russia , deputy commander of the cosmonaut detachment, who has been in space three times, this is vyacheslav lvovich klimentov, and the main custodian , deputy director of the museum of cosmonautics, and this is vasily andreyevich vladimirsky book reviewer connoisseur of accurate fiction, co-founder of the award for the best science fiction work an award

called new horizons. hello, the most important thing. it seems to me that e cosmos is something decorated with a root, because we forget it is the same as that of cosmetics. but it is so, despite this. uh, superficial, like the meaning of the word cosmetics. this is a means of decoration among the greeks. chaos was undecorated space, not orderly , dark and incomprehensible, and space was that which was decorated, ordered, categorized, and divided into stars into comets into rays, probably, there was some big sense in this and let's start a conversation, of course. from the cosmonaut, of course, from the legendary oleg novitsky. how did it happen that you became an astronaut and did literature play any role here, maybe science fiction, maybe ivan efremov, maybe something else

really. from childhood, i was always attracted, probably, by some open spaces, because somewhere up to the eighth grade of high school. for some reason, while living in belarus, i always dreamed to be a seafarer. i read them, in my opinion, it would be worth writing, but along the way, makarevich is a powerful two-volume book, like a guy came to the merchant fleet, but nevertheless he reached the captain of a sea voyage. i lived with this thought for quite a long time, and only, probably, after the eighth grade, when my cousin entered the boriso-glerod school, the famous school. yes, i said about the life of flight cadets. here in all these kind of childhood dreams. for some reason, i changed my mind about my future profession and decided to become a military pilot began to prepare intensively. i was a little short of height and stretched out on the horizontal bar. that's a lot of running. and there, uh, somehow there are some restrictions on growth. you have to be tall, you have to be some kind of neuter gender. i didn’t understand the standards of the military enlistment office, but i couldn’t help but reach the lower stick. so, literally in a season over the summer, i stretched out

very well and entered the boriso-glerodny school. unfortunately, then through the reduction in the nineties. i changed three schools continued to study there. to whom things finished already kachinskaya and then served first in krasnodar, then borisoglebsk and for a very long time in budyonnovsk, that he was looking for a regiment from a position as a commander, i left for the gagarin academy, located here in the suburbs and calmly studied, raised my military professional level of the air force academy, the famous beautiful and before the release of the scales, representatives of the cosmonaut training center came to us, gathered the entire flight crew and said that this year a detachment of cosmonauts is being recruited. have you already been in some kind of military rank appropriate. don't be too late. well, as gymnastics was enough, maybe it's too early to blame. yes, i was, in my opinion, 32-33 years old. it was a good age to continue a military military career. so when they offered to those who wished to pass the selection, this cosmonaut

, i naturally agreed to write a report on the passage for some reason. i thought that i could naturally put myself next to such great people. how do we gagarin leonov titov volynov? what year was this? it was 2006. well, to be honest, i should have gone to clear my conscience that i made an attempt. i could not put myself on the same level with such people. and just in a month. i passed the selection, and i was recognized as fit. here is the selection of this cosmonauts. nevertheless, they said, thank you beneficial. i say what to do next? maybe my unit could go on to serve further . i went back to the budyonnovsky assault regiment for six months, and from there, by order of the minister of defense, star city was transferred, document went on, and then you already got to star yes, this is a legendary place, but still you read something about space at that time or uh, it was somewhere out of the way. you were a pilot, yes, literature about military aviation and read a lot of adventure literature. well, tell me, but besides e knowledge of technology, in addition to the physical data of health, but

here's some other worldview. i mean, the ideology is there, but, well, something was required, as it seemed to you, then it is some kind of idea of ​​the distant. eh, space. you wanted to be a seafarer . well, is it still you or after all, only technique and no. i thought all the same during the selection. yes, it was also taken into account, because how motivated a person is. that's it for his profession. yes, what does not just go to become a famous astronaut, to be on faith in the newspaper strips. yes , somewhere in the last column it was on the front page on channel one that happened, but i never aspired to this, i never came a little, but nonetheless. i understand that we need to do the same in order to tell our students there to schoolchildren, just people, what we do, then now a little the information was cut short cosmonauts promptly cosmonautics, so we tried not to refuse anyone to any organization, not a single school, not a single university to give the guys as much information as possible space - is it romance or

work? it still somehow works. this is a romantic, romantic work, and beautiful, that is, your dreams come true in fact. well, essentially. yes. the only thing, perhaps, is still in the number of flights and how much time is allotted for this. well, three flights. this is not enough. it's not a little, yes, but how much did you spend in space, well almost a year in space. that's all yes, i feel right next to you, as well as our other guests. thank you very much. well, now my question is to vyacheslav klimenkov vyacheslavovich please tell me, is there probably some kind of dynamics? yes, that's what 's been happening lately. and with those who come to the museum, what they want to see space occupies, well, a few other places. oleg and i were just talking about this. well, it’s not that every release of the program starts with shots, salutes, 6, how was it? that's what people want, what are they

interested in when they ask me? well, here we are, uh, touched the descent vehicle. and you made a remark to us. so what happened? i say nothing and even if i touch more things, nothing will happen. and even thousands of nothing. but there is something like yesterday we took our museum to 2,800 people, and on saturday we had one ticket for one day, and on saturday we had. 3,200 people in the museum, just imagine 3,200 touch, and you need to save. yes , not for a year, not for two for a decade. these are kids these are adults. these are the guests of the capital, they are foreigners, but now it is difficult. but who exactly is this? see? the interest is huge, not only in space, i would say astronautics, yes, that is, to people who make devices to people who actually pilot the devices and conduct experiments. in space. very interesting. uh, different family people, a lot of family people. yes, there are a lot of

schoolchildren, a lot of those who came. just come here to relax very small foreigners. and i'll tell you more, while here are some interesting numbers. we are already accepting 10% more than before the pandemic. that is, you have already gone out of business perfectly, but still, what is the museum's setting for some kind of interactive? ecogenic opportunities to join or display relics. i prefer some of these, but i won't say in advance. what do you know, well, i guess approximately what you prefer, because you are a museum man and a museum of literature a literary museum, of course, so far with religions and relief, which, in general, it is impossible to see the descent vehicle anywhere else. hey, let's get the machine down. we have five descents we have the legendary squirrel and strelka , which proved with the legendary dogs, who later lived 10 years of life, had puppies there, and so on, that life in space

is possible in space, we have a spacesuit. yuryevich gagarin, we have a spacesuit in which, uh, a psychological duplicate spacesuit, in which alexei arkhipov had what he wanted in outer space alexei leonov from the city of kemerovo where he spent seven years of his life, how it all sounds to our master alexei arkhipovich, he loved the same tell a story always what, and when i'm somewhere 14 years old. i have there was a choice of who to become. and i drew very well, painted pictures, all to be an artist, but i also didn’t read to be a military pilot, and we met in the family and it turned out. so, i have a lot. in the military school, four meals a day, the military school was given a uniform during the school was discipline and i decided all the same we decided i became a military pilot a great artist, and we have a very large collection of more than 100 working paintings or a supernatural in our museum. we have already moved on to art and

for good reason, of course, leonov is wonderful the artist, and he, with his paintings, e , works to popularize space no less than with legendary stories about the first spacewalk by pavel belyaev, as we remember, again , these are precisely pavlovich belyaev, alexei arkevicha, leonov, these are all the names that my generation knew by name, patronymic of these people. e even wake up at night, we would e pronounce it. well, i turn my question. e to vasily vladimirsky and hmm let's talk about art. or rather, literature. still , the cosmos is what is around us or what is in or what is inside of us, and if that's briefly still somewhere the point where it starts, e.g. modern sciensiction. of course, one can say that plato

had fantasy in atlantis and in st. petersburg and in crotile and lucian and samosata and daniel defoe and where in russian literature prince odoevsky udostoevsky has a long-standing funny man, but still, this is the twentieth century, as far as it is the fantasy of the twentieth century depended on real discoveries, because in parallel there were morozov and tsiolkovsky. those who have already directly said that u gentlemen? this perhaps, perhaps, as it all began with literature. well, you know, here's what you started with the classics practically, in the sense of the word in which they, in general, here the word is used by the classics of antiquity a and e, the authors of the new time. the authors of the 19th and 18th centuries, they generally asked. it seems to me that a certain vector and e space for the writers of that period of that era of those eras is e something, more something better than the earth, that is, it is an ideal of some kind. i would say even a

place where they rotate and uh grow uh, all sorts of different utopias, the world mind is perfect, starting with the fact that this here the moon’s rotation period is 12 times longer than with the disgust of the earth, and therefore on the moon since ancient times it was believed that everything was 12 times better 12 times more 12 times perfectly fine. and it seems to me that this is largely preserved in the science fiction of the twentieth century. she is very diverse. that is, uh, someone used the cosmic expanses here, like e entourage for adventurous adventures of literature for someone to show how where humanity can enter in some places where it is not necessary to enter, but these very despotic anti-utopian worlds were also transferred to other planets - anti-utopia - these are already our internal terms. but uh. well, actually dystopia dystopia

is practically the same thing, but we will say dystopia for a good better understanding. here, uh, and. eh, still very e people, e in the 20th century. at least. well, probably until the fifty-seventh year, until the moment when the actual cosmos humanity finally broke through really broke. in the same year, as we remember, ivan antonovich's novel was published. efremov's mist of syndromes in the fifty-seventh year. he came out in e technology of youth, then a separate novel in a separate book was repeatedly reprinted by the most popular magazine of technology of youth technology, again my million circulations millions of copies and strove into space, like , to something better, more, like to, uh, some kind of ideal . yes, but when you started, maybe there was even some kind of looking back at literature. i mean, we already know a little about it. yes, maybe perhaps they looked and somehow evaluated

the work of the same ancient authors. the same ones are still up to bergerac. uh, edgar poe's defoe jules verne is needed right. it's already here. as a matter of fact, it's probably true with julia. yes, you can keep a record of science fiction, as we know it perfectly, as we remember, we lived faithfully, landing on the moon did not happen, that is, it happened, but already in the second house and its second book, but about politics and uh, the main goal the main task. e heroes from pushkin moon and pushkin yeah yeah yeah it's just uh, well, to do some travel proof. yes pick up speed to show how it happens to prove that it is possible, that is, first of all. uh, it's in the center of technology. yes, this is where human science begins. then you know, i wrote my thesis. eh, i rarely think about it, but you know about it, because in some sense we also belong to the same shop with vasily. i wrote my

thesis, and stanislavella, and i corresponded with him. this is absolutely great eh, a man in his later years. he was very against man-caused evolution of such an uncontrolled american, and here is solaris, this is the sixty-first year, right. most probably, the famous roman of the sixty-first year thanks to tarkovsky. although they had their contradictions, lem e, denied that i denied the film, but the film and the book say differently in the film he had a fight, as always, yes there was a conflict. well, after all, in this example , it’s very good, it’s clear that when this so much desired by mankind for millennia flight cosmos took place i was born in the sixty-first year, therefore i feel itself the same age as the space age. eh, then after all, there was some kind of looking back at literature . and this confirms our thesis that the cosmos

is not only stars, but the cosmos is both what is in us and what is in art and now we will have a traditional middle. e of our podcast. each issue in the middle contains my little solo, and i either show an old book, or comment on a quote from a classic, or read it into a poem. and when i thought about what to read, the choice was very large, because it was opened unknown. at lomonosov yes or tyutchev e how much cosmic is there, if there is a certain hour of the night of universal silence and there is an hour of manifestations, the alien living chariot of the universe is openly rolling into the sanctuary of heaven, but i decided to read hmm a wonderful little poem by nikolai alekseevich zabolotsky and a brilliant russian poet mmm, in which the cosmos is given precisely as a projection

of the universe on ourselves, on our inner world, when the daylight fades away and in the black haze, leaning towards khatam , the whole sky will play over me, like a colossal moving atom that torments me for a year a dream that somewhere in another corner of the universe there is the same garden and the same darkness and the same stars in imperishable beauty and maybe some poet stands in the garden and thinks yearning why i bother him with my foggy dream, and this , by the way, brings us back to the discussion of tarkovsky emma how we agreed on the details of the work i don’t dedicate, i actually don’t need materials for the last 6

months, more precisely, with us, the liberation of the city of rostov, the threads go up to moscow in the city, an organized spy network is working . and we could reveal her good german law from now on. you take a pencil. all countries are found in case of danger you do not show yourself. next to speak so that you do not see this according to the laws of wartime new series.

1,200 minutes talk time 25 gb internet plus unlimited music and video services. order a tinkoff sim card and use mobile communications, 3 times cheaper. he is so alone. how can i remember the name, fatigue, i sleep badly to improve cerebral circulation , the work of the brain, memory recovery, reducing fatigue and improving sleep. now i will not forget day after day anxiety anxiety, and with them writings, so in a circle, you can help yourself cope with anxiety and insomnia afobazol for four weeks for the most pronounced action with constipation solves delicate problems relieves heaviness in the stomach allows you to stay light and live a full life for adult children

from birth can change habitual things ; it is recommended to apply daily for three months, three courses a year. to improve cerebral circulation of the brain memory recovery and dizziness reduction let's go, i'll have time to get a tinkoff black space card before april 16 and get free service forever tinkoff he's the only one. how is it that you remember the name of sleep badly conducive to memory recovery, reduced fatigue and improvements three times cheaper.

1.200 minutes talk 25 gb worry well, we're back in our studio for a literary podcast. let them not talk, let

them read, we are talking about how they read in space and how they read about space oleg how they spend e leisure on the iss astronauts? as there day and night e succeed each other day and night i replace you very much. we just get 16 turns. in a day around the planet, respectively, 16 blossoms and 16 sunsets. we are guided by greek time to eat just, well, such chimes. no, of course, there are large wristwatches. yes, there’s nothing to warm up with, damn it, still yeah, if the soyuz ship flies moscow time to the station station back only in moscow but at the station we are now switching to greenwich so conveniently for all soups about books, i can say that they are now. well, very little, because we ourselves are well aware that there is little space. yes. uh, shipping is probably very expensive, since it only takes a kilo of personal belongings, so thanks to here all of our technologies, if already on e-

books. we have a very large library of recorded music, so there are a lot of e-books. yes, there are books, right? here, well, i don’t know, let’s say i like a person, because i can support in my hands. bravo yes, as i understand you, i have completely different tactile sensations. this is not an e-book. i can't convey how this pleasure is to support something in your hands. uh-huh, what books? well, for example, you read something, no, it’s hard to give an example, because every astronaut takes or asks for psycho support lips. uh, to set up some kind of figurative library, some new tracks, some music books. that is, there is a huge amount of this information, then they remain. well, i want to pick up such and such books, if a kilogram of weight, then, of course, this is hardly it's hard. yes, everyone is sitting in an instance. well, she also doesn’t want to suffocate literature in a good way, because there are places there. it is very little for me that we have all the screenings, they are, in principle, overloaded with

some kind of equipment and even a small book. she's already taking a seat. got it, got it? well, that is, i conclude from this that we also live at the station. yes, because we have less and less space. yes, uh, i have 30,000 books. it ’s not for nothing that i repeat this, but it’s not without reason that i host a podcast. let them say they will count more than 30,000 books, and there is nowhere to live, in fact. they i have two. that is, we live, as it were, at a space-saving station. and what about leisure free time on weekdays is not very much, well, maybe somewhere and a half there two hours and a half or two hours, and sleep how much we sleep 10.5 hours. oh eight and a half hours, that is, well, no library, actually, only electronic, yes, basically, yes? yeah. well, it's still good. and films are watched together or each separately. mostly, probably, together, after all, because this requires more time. uh-huh i i wanted to say that on a weekday we are, in principle, not preparing for the working day, we need to find some equipment to study radiograms, so we can only see leisure time on

weekends and then only after cleaning our segment. half day. we are removing our segment. partners do the same, and then on saturday evening, let's say, we can get together to watch some movie or a good soviet one. or let's say some kind of imported movie. and what is very good and very often according to his film, which was not released. that we watch these films first at the station. oh, how curious, that is, the audience. yes document. uh-huh they divulge always invite us to view. how wonderful is that? yes, it is a very good tradition. it somehow brings the crew together. let it be small, but the local dinner brings them together. well, that 's great. now again in the museum vyacheslav lvovich and please tell me, uh, the museum publishes some books. and what exactly? here i have some samples here, yes , the museum publishes books. well how are we doing? these are projects together with the publishing house. here you took now a book. she is very important to us. this is the second edition. event horizon. ah, the tender letters of the severe man. this, of course

, is about sergey, this is about sergey pavlovich, because the amazing branches, which we love very much. in general, dear astronauts. it's true. this is the house of sergei pavlovich korolev and in this place. that's all there, just like sergei pavlovich just left. he left for a seemingly insignificant operation and more. yes, he never returned with them in the bathroom. and you know here collected with permission permission nirvana gave it permission in writing before the transition from life, when some time passes to publish them, and now, against the backdrop of the events of the fifty-sixth fifty-seventh fifty-ninth year, he writes letters to his wife, and the wife answers because of this small house of a house on a delivery street. it's very interesting what turned out of this, well, 47-65 is completely 17 years of life, and you know in the house in which they tell. he lived only 6 years and i was struck by the number of suitcases in this house, because

for the most part it is the vnukovo machine house and accordingly, a business trip to the cosmodrome, or at the enterprise, which he led. and also, i just can’t say religion. let’s remember that there is an amazing tradition now about gagarin, let’s say from an amazing tradition associated with the house of sergei pavlovich. a horseshoe in your house. there, in the yard. yes, and nailed it to a tree. this is right at first glance. yeah nailed it to a tree and now there's a tradition for so many years when in a safe the crew, uh, the russian crews together, by the way, for our strange colleagues, partners , come to the house before the flight and, for good luck , sit down on a horseshoe bench. sergei pavlovich was the crew. yes, there is always on the belt, how great it is. i didn't know that, very very interesting. if you want to leave a kind, such is also literature, a literary tradition , you understand the museum? he, too, must create

some important things, create some new traditions. this is such a new new meaning of some kind of museum event that repeats, which is created around the museum , created by museums consciously for astronauts for the community for those who love astronauts, in general, this is just some very important bond. now you have picked up a book, this book is called the amazing story of the first flight. here we are trying to figure it out. who is yuri gagarin insanely interesting, i remember the words that gagarin himself will say in his book. what a road to space. he will say, i am a simple soviet man. these are all said. here is a little boy from a small villages. yes, under the city. that's how this way is the way, yes, the undead boss then the first man in space here after the book show, therefore, in the museum in the museum they read. the museum is very fond of buying books, even if especially after looking from a position, and also the conclusion, that the museum is read like nowhere else

. here is the museum look at the subject and read these floor. here is the reading and viewing. and this is the achievement of the achievements of literature. yes , because really reading the legend is reading the explanation. this is also when communicating to, uh, the space of astronautics. you said an important thing indeed, the personalities of these people are very important for us and how then these people who were in space accomplished their feats. and those who started out as yuri gagarin and, uh, colleagues who continue to make friends. yes , how do they give it all away. true , a huge number of meetings even after the flight, too, all this seems to continue. yes, oleg, of course, is never available. there are no exes. no, no, it's clear, but elena yuryevna gagarina is the director of the kremlin, very much our celebrity field. this is, of course, a treasure

also our information, important that all this continues. well, uh, our conversation has already turned to how the tradition itself is born, which will be included in the lectern, uh, or have already entered the lectern of the annals of the cosmic conquest of the universe, and what is happening in modern literature, i turn my question to vasily. after all, anyway. well, it’s understandable, yes, but the fantasy that was once composed in the nudity, in my childhood there was a library of modern fiction of 25 volumes and several more volumes of appendices. grayish reddish grayish reddish, i still since i remember the first one remember whose efremova second koba third in a row nishtyak you still managed to get these books. yes, i got them much later. eh, compared to how i read it, i, of course, to younger schoolchildren, and

i got it, as it were rightly said, i got the soviet word already, uh, to students. and it was secondhand buying all these names. we know robert sheckley raider. ah, kurt won a year , vladimir savchenko, if you recently re-read just alexander belyaev, if you take patriotic fiction a little earlier, well, these stanislavl mentioned and so on and so on. well, this is a classic and almost none of those whom we have now listed already, unfortunately, are not alive. and what is happening now? here's a new horizons award, and i recently read an interview with a publisher. a very famous, uh, who says to the publishing house, to be more precise, and she, uh, talks about the fact that fantasy among the younger generation of writers is very popular again. what does that mean?