um, does the museum publish any books, and which ones? i have some samples here, right? yes, the museum publishes books. well, how do we do some projects together with publishing houses. now you have taken a book, it is very important for us. this is the second edition. event horizon. ah, the tender letters of the severe man. this, of course, is about sergey , this is about sergey pavlovich, because the amazing branches, very beloved by us, very beloved by the astronauts. it's true. this is the house of sergei pavlovich korolev and in this place. here everything is just like all sorts of pavlovich just left. he left it would seem to me a minor operation and more yes, with them in the bathroom, he never returned. and you know, they are collected here with permission, ivan gave this permission in writing by passing from life, when some time passes to publish them, and now, against the backdrop of the events of the fifty-sixth fifty-seventh fifty-ninth year, he writes letters to his wife, and the wife answers because of this . near the house

of the house on ostankinskaya street, it is very interesting that he turned from this, well, at 47.65, this is 18 years of life. yeah you know in the house in which i tell you, he lived for only 6 years, and i was struck by the number of suitcases in this house, because for the most part it is the vnukov machine house and, accordingly, a business trip to the cosmodrome, or at the enterprise he led. and also, i just can’t say religion. let’s remember that there is an amazing tradition now about gagarin , let’s say from an amazing tradition associated with the house of sergei pavlovich. shoe in your home. there, in the yard. yes, and nailed it to a tree. this is exactly the first stage. yeah , it was nailed to a tree and now there is a tradition for many years when all the crews, uh, russian crews, by the way, are together with our strange colleagues and partners. they come to

the house before the flight and, for good luck, sit on that bench under the shoe. sergey pavlovich, here oleg was with the crew. yes, there’s always plenty of tea there, how great they are. i don’t know that, it’s very interesting, that is, you don’t want to leave , kind of, that’s also literary literature. tradition. you understand the museum. he, too, must create some important things, create some new traditions. this is such a new new meaning of some kind of museum event that is repeated, which is created around museums consciously for astronauts for the community for those who love astronauts, in general, this is just some very important bond. now they raised a book, this book is called the amazing story of the first flight. here we are trying to figure it out. who is yuri gagarin is insanely interesting, i remember the words that gagarin himself will say in his book. what a road to space. he will say, i am a simple soviet man. these are all said. here is a small one. a boy from

a small village, yes, under the city, that's how this way is, yes, the boss of a celestial before the first man in space. here, try to show this book, therefore, in the museum in the museum they read the museum is very fond of buying books. that is, especially after looking from the position. and in conclusion, that they read the museum like they read nowhere else. here they look at the subject and read the ethics of the floor, here is the reading and contemplation. this is the achievement achievements of literature. yes, because really reading the legend is reading the explanation. this is also when communicating with e, space astronautics. you said an important thing, the personalities of these people are really very important for us, and how then these people who were in space accomplished their feats and those who started out as yuri gagarin and, uh, colleagues who continue to look like colleagues. yes , how do they give it all away. true , a huge number of meetings even after

the flight, too, all this seems to continue. yes, oleg, of course, never has an end. there are no exes. no, no, i see, but, uh , yelena yuryevna gagarina, director of the kremlin the kremlin doesn't go very far. this, of course, is also a storehouse of our information, it is important that all this continues. well, uh, our conversation has already turned to how the tradition itself is born, which will be included in the lectern, uh, or have already entered the lectern of the annals of the cosmic conquest of the universe, and what is happening in modern literature, i turn my question to vasily. after all, anyway. well, of course, yes, but fantasy, which was once composed in a nudity. in my childhood was a library of modern fiction 25 volumes and a few more volumes of applications. gray little red gray little red, i still remember the first one

remember whose efremova second koba the third in a row you still managed to get these books. yes , i got them much later. eh, compared to how i read it, i, of course, to younger students. and i got it, as you rightly said, i got the soviet word already to m-th students. and it was secondhand buying all these names. we know robert sheckley raider a-a court-won year vladimir savchenko if alexander belyaev just re-read it , if a little earlier we take the patriotic fantasy, well, these stanislavl mentioned and so on and so forth. well, this is a classic and almost none of those whom we have now listed, unfortunately, are no longer alive. and what is happening now? here's a new horizons award, and i recently read

an interview with a publisher. very famous, which says the publisher, more precisely, and she, uh, talks about the fact that fantasy among the younger generation of writers is again very popular. what does it mean? this some kind of skipism? this is the continuation of a dream. these are some developments in topics, here, what are the names , what is happening, so to speak, if we talk about space, i’m still talking about space, then a very painful painful painful disease on the topic of space is less than fiction. yes, there is practically no space in science fiction, that is, if we are talking about science fiction about science fiction, which is based on some modern scientific ideas about the world around us, then it is most often the authors who turn to information technology to space fantasy. it is definitely present, but it is present. hmm, so that's

the background. being this is such a fork, which , by the way, stanislav lem spoke already in such mature years in recent years that humanity, instead of conquering the universe, as it seemed at the end of the 19th century. yes, we are first out of the fluff, then further away to the stars. well, somehow it went to the internet in some parallel worlds. no , i think there is. uh, hmm the connection is definitely a connection with what's going on with our space industry, which is absence. eh, some understanding. that's so practical. actually. why would a person go into space practically, as if, that in the foreground i look like oleg hanging. uh, doubt looks the same way on you. yes agree, no questions at all correct. you, oleg, also said that the concept works. although romantic is inexpensive there. eh, yes, a book to take a kilogram of everything for everything. for what. you just have to return that something else and return some kind of payload from there. well, i did not expect

from you, at all. i thought you were swift. with some further. and you say that you need to understand. why, unfortunately, i talked a lot with our st. petersburg specialists, so to speak, experts on manned cosmonautics with anton pervushin, whom i probably know, yes, the historian of our cloak, cosmonautics, not very much. e, optimistic about the future in the future of astronautics. i mean in any global sense by the states. yes , some kind of technological breakthrough must occur, so that this everything will return. uh, to, for example, well, payload delivery in space from space has become at times or there for an order of time somehow bread, which is much easier to be born the second korolev in the same was born the second king, to whom we are already waiting in a row. it’s just that i don’t know yet from mine , but some kind of thing should happen, really technologically very serious, yes, what will happen, uh, well, can you imagine or science fiction writers

certainly remember space, they don’t forget about it, they don’t forget it. uh, one way or another they use it in their works, but as a rule, space is just a background against which take place. well, anything can happen some kind of adventure there e collisions. yeah, uh, maybe life events. maybe the moon, for example. uh, there is such an ian mcdonald writer of american non- american uh, british irish origin. here he was with us in russia several years ago, just i participated in bringing him. he has a cycle. moon action. it happens naturally on the moon. some minerals are mined on the moon and brought to earth. we understand that this is, well, unprofitable at the current level development, however. here he allowed such a fantasy. the moon is practically the same for him. here again we continue the romance and work. this is the designation of the practical sphere. or is it some kind of cultural symbol. there, in addition to, here, purely

practical mining, there is also such a laboratory. social, that is , as different scenarios of the future where in what direction will humanity move? there, it all happens and develops in real time. we, in principle, unfortunately, our russian-speaking authors are much less likely to turn to cosmic symbolism, and even to space, as a purely entourage. uh, but uh, i can say that not so long ago a collection of new futures was released and, unfortunately, there is again the same story. there is not a lot of space there, in fact, the most interesting, probably, are space stories. this is, uh, the story of eduard verkin, who, uh, describes just under the influence of uh. well, how to say after the ladies of alexander green, the strugatsky brothers, ivan efremov, he describes just the same technology, which we talked about technology uh transportation, well, or transportation,

yes, and the transfer from our space. in another to another to another part of the solar system or not only solar not necessarily the solar system to another galaxy of some matter, for example, a book, for example, books, yes, please, when this happens, as eduard verkin teaches us, yes everything will change and the cosmos will return to us again in all its radiant glory, how great it is, that is, the cosmos is developing in all directions and in general the word space in russian from the verb stretch, for example, yes expand, the german word, deir raum is empty, like rum in english. yes, there is no prostration space, i don’t know what the internal form of the english word is, but i really like it. i tell students all the time and teach them, because you need to look at what lives in the word yes, the arrow lives in the word shoot although only athletes shoot from a bow , space is an expansion in all directions.

and here we are in our conversation. how it happened by itself yes, we talked about technology and real flights and deaths and how it is fixed on earth, preserved and continues to live for people. and how literature goes, either following the cosmos, or somewhere a little ahead, so a and e a person who picks up a book learns something familiar from the reports of news agencies. so and vice versa. those who e like uh, our wonderful authorities oleg novitsky and get off the ground, fly into space , learn something from books. in a word. thank you very much, dear friends. i think that this triple approach from different angles we have succeeded in space. let me remind you once again that russian pilot cosmonaut oleg novitsky was our guest, and the deputy

director for scientific work was our guest. all uh, cosmo practice vyacheslav klimentov and we had uh, book reviewer vasily vladimirsky so we did it today and i'm sure it will work out, and you have our dear witnesses and participants in the next edition of the literary podcast. let them not speak, let them read, and i , with my usual constancy, say my usual final phrase. count with pleasure, dear friends. i greet everyone who joins us today on the podcast everyone wants to fly today. i assure you it will be a completely unusual flight. i am acting as a cadet, because today

i have the honored pilot of russia , naval pilot igor sergeevich kozhin as commander. this is the crew leader. i am a cadet because what he does. i can't even begin to imagine how this happens. well, we have known each other for many years and the flight that we made with you. for me for life in memory, because nothing like i do not never experienced. we talked a lot about pilots. we have talked a lot or will talk a lot about the training of pilots, and as far as naval aviation is concerned , no one understands this at all. i am a witness to that. i do not represent your work; in general, i have seen many times deckmen sit down. uh, for me, fighters are no longer

incomprehensible with hooking on these three cables, but what carrier-based helicopter pilots do. excluded for my understanding, because the helicopter itself is a serious thing, but, nevertheless, a huge backlash. side pitching, keel weather conditions nearby a huge number of mechanisms, how does it all happen? you know it happens let's say so. quite familiar for a person who is slowly slowly drawn into the profession of a sea pilot because we are all born simply with people who live the spirit of the dimension. we walk on the floor, and we can move either forward or backward. a pilot is a person who lives in three dimensions. it has extra dimensions. it is not on a firm footing on the ground, so this gives, firstly, danger. you become a bird which in life did not fly, but unexpectedly aged. there are 18 years old or 16 years old, you learn to fly and start flying. this is unusual, very

unusual, or a person is simply unusual, because, firstly, these are high speeds. that is, we can run, maximum. there , relatively speaking, there are 20 km. this is the most sprinting qualities of a person, and the pilot flies at a speed of 200 300 600 800 and further. further up to supersonic speed. this is not usual. it's very short. this is very let's say. so, well, an emotionally loaded person is very strong and therefore. well the bag is always a different angle of view , a different way of thinking, in general, the perception of life becomes this i understand, and yet here is a helicopter, which means, i understand, we have turned on the consumers. we started one engine from the first engine to the second engine. we smoothly raised the car, hung, sat back , reported there, and laid out the team. she is waiting. we left it off the site. and if it's from all sides, what tolerances do you know, here, uh, i

've come across a lot of helicopter pilots with the preparation of a ship from a ship from land helicopter pilots. starts to fly percent approximately 60 40%, still, they do not master the ship, because it is a narrow platform and a small platform. especially still, and night flights. this is generally a terrible thing, because in fact there was not, nor the earth, the stars are completely reflected in the water, and about 30% more helicopters only land on the deck at night, in simple conditions. until the ship does not move. but when he starts to move - yes. this is a big problem. and i will tell you that i have seen several times in my life when my guys flew in the north saving people in a six-point storm there. this of course, it's very serious, well, it's heroism to some extent, because to guess the movement of the ship at sea. it’s very difficult, but the pilot who flies in a helicopter needs to first come up, hang out, catch this pitching and be in time in a short period.

somehow, i have to land. it is very difficult to roll a huge six-point storm, which means you can catch a propeller, you can fall over. a you can touch deck superstructures. there, god knows how many of them, and then to catch this moment in order to catch it. you do not see the eyes, there is no bottom there are no eyes from below, so i say that here it is the heroic behavior of the pilots in general. i met with me in such helicopters. the finger of the hand is enough, which can perform such tasks. it is very difficult. i read somewhere that there are mechanisms called , in my opinion, the bear's paw, which means that the helicopter hangs, the cable descends, it clings to the cable, and a special operator sits here, who pulls it up from the helicopter. yes, there is such a mechanism, but, firstly, not all ships have taras for specialized small ships, then knife and a small platform. they exist.

uh, the helicopter pilot approaches the cable, it gets hooked, and he starts to pull it up very carefully, because if we even pull it up with a maple one on one wheel, then mach got to turn over even the cable can’t be held, if the operation is very difficult, and on these ordinary ships where they fly rescue people, as if in an unexpected situation. it's generally not planted there. just like that, they either hang down, lower the cradle on the cradle, raise it when it is already completely impossible, or sit down when it, perhaps, has finished. yes i i finish the yeysk school at 70 in the eighty- second year of the seventy-eighth year i entered there. well, after that, he flew for 42 years almost a raid after the school. what was it like when we produced alcohol on two planes, that is , for the first 2 years we flew on plane 29. yeah, and 2 years. we flew, then the thirty-fourth year on the plane. su-7. this is a very complex aircraft, a very complex aircraft, and on average, we flew about 260 hours 260, there are 220 hours, taking into account the fact that we flew only from june to august

for only 3 months. well, this is a very serious raid seriously. that is, you came to the unit, in principle, already as pilots. yes, we were practically prepared for the third grade. we needed to prepare only for special tasks of combat use. ok then. how did it happen? the pilot sat down. by the handle of a helicopter, how do you understand that? as the meaning lies in only one thing, here we are a whole regiment, for example, from mig-27 ml aircraft they were retrained for helicopters. we just retrained them 14 , about 20% of those who could not master it were weeded out. the rest mastered the helicopter a helicopter, if a migratory feature is there, if the pilot , in order to accelerate the handle up, lift the rope towards himself, then everything is here, on the contrary, i reverse movement and the most important task is to learn how to do the reverse movement. and how long did it take for a pilot to retrain for a helicopter? on what name-8, probably, yes, well , we are the main e8k27 helicopters. and when seven,

by the way, it turned out easier, why? because coaxial screws do not have this rotation from one screw. and uh, end end screw, who doesn't move. it’s easier there , you don’t have to give a leg, you sit down calmly, but on mi 8 it’s more difficult than it has moments of rotation during takeoff and landing, it still rotates a little, you need to hold the reverse with your right foot. yes, and when it's winter it doesn't have a coaxial propeller, it doesn't. i understand, by the way, if here the right leg works on takeoff landing, now the question for the whole family of kamov helicopters is two propellers. yes, how do they not clap. no, they don't clap. they are separated in height from each other and rotate in reverse side. that is, they compensate for each other in a careful moment, you understand, but they still somehow do not just rotate each of their own plane. they somehow have some strange movement. uh, the swashplate somehow works strangely

, works strangely, but there, once the distance between the screws allows. uh, all the same, it’s not to believe these things, that is, the overlap of thicknesses, there were practically no kamov helicopters more maneuverable than nevsky yes, of course, he didn’t. this is the moment that the mil helicopter compensates for the back screw. that is, if the propeller rotates, then according to physics, the helicopter also rotates in the opposite direction. by the way, we see this when the rear propeller fails and now the helicopter falls and rotates around its axis , who doesn’t have this, both propellers rotate to compensate for each other, it falls or rotates equally absolutely, therefore, in this regard, it’s a little easier and this a feature of the coaxial circuit and , most importantly, the power is not going to the rear view from the engine, so it is a more maneuverable issue, if from the area aerodynamics screw works in this direction and draws in air, yes, a in this direction. a. this side does not take in air, so

there are swashplates that make the reverse side rotate the propeller in a horizontal plane. here he takes the air due to the fact that she has a screw. let's say. so the curved geometry of the front end here is the lifting force. and when it goes back, it levels off in such a way that it also passes with a minimum lift, like a line of passage, that's all. what are the tasks of naval aviation? in moscow in the task practically the main ones are the search for the destruction of submarine ships. this is the main task that we don’t have so many helicopters, but now they don’t exist at all. we only have ships for single basing. well, for the group it is kuznetsov but, nevertheless, helicopter pilots. i work for citizens, too, of course, of course it works, because after all you can’t do without them. how to board a ship on any ship that does not have a landing

strip or a runway. here comes the question. we've been talking about it just now. night flight on a ship pitching, keel, airborne, god forbid wind, rain, not a single light landmarks, what are you guided by? when you land at night, you can't see the ship landing at night. there is such a certain point that is illuminated in some way, than the light is removed. why because it should not illuminate the deck, that i didn’t pull the handle there, so we go along the lighting system, which focuses three beams, red green and yellow, there is yellow flashing, but this is a kind of yellow and now the pilot must uh, thirty-ton car su-33 aircraft. to keep on this, let's say, line, which is only measured there at the end, in general, there are centimeters at a speed of a very accurate speed of about 250-240 km / h. yes,

because if you don't hold it, it could be a cable break. and maybe you won't even sit down, because it won't work, let's say, uh, pulling into the lane. you won’t be able to push through such a thing, maybe you need to have time to bring it to full throttle in order to get off the floor. and we have such a principle, which means that we sit down in general with full throttle. that is, i come to the deck and before landing, not all over there, touching the mandatory turnover at the maximum. firstly, the braking system works better, because the car is braked with a hook, which connects through a cable. she works better with maximum work. and most importantly, landing for me is a pleasant surprise. i always work on the ear for the second circle. that is, if not hooked, i must on the subject. it is said that the words of love the entire filming period. i could not listen to anything except songs, i fell in love so much, i

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when i watched how you take off an overload of almost 250-270 km / h, at a full stop in your eyes, as many dots of the capillaries burst, but by the way, an occupational illness of a flight composition - this is the first spine. this is the first question, because we are fighting vertically, plus it also comes from the spine, and the second is from our retina. this is an occupational disease of naval aviation in general for carrier-based pilots that exist. this is the first question. and the second question. uh, sometimes you forget to pull yourself together. that is, in my life it was such a special attraction that the godfather attracts you when you come in for landing, uh, before the landing gear and pull yourself up completely, that is, the chair is attracted to your mobile phone attracts like this, if you do not forget to do this, it happened in life. it also happened to me at the moment of braking, you rest your forehead on the sight, and until you slow down, you won’t pull your head out of there, then you rushed back. well

, that's it, she's an overload. well, four units about a shift. how many times do you leave the deck, which means, uh, we have regulations about boarding. that is, with us, we did not make more than three or four landings, a replacement on our own or there as a part. in general, as if any touch is practically landing, only without braking, and it was necessary to make such touches on the order, there were four or five six, at least in order to, before everything, well, to train the flight crew. and when the su-25 parks flew us there, in general, they did landings until 6:00 to 7:00, such touches, then you steer the hook, you fly, a springboard, you fly another hook and went to the runway. i will not ask how many such pilots we have, but i will say the name, and then we will want to get up, and the packages yes, but this is the first person in general, who sat down and who, as it were, is today the founder of the male

aviation school, namely pal on aviation. there are even golden questions. uncle was not the right word. this, firstly, was a man with a capital letter in life. it was really hard to surprise me. it's like i've seen a lot of things in my life, but uh, one of those people who really surprised me is that the topic has been restored. well, first of all, it’s complete that ’s just everything to fly, there’s nothing else, if only the full table was from the beginning of flights to the end flights. here, until you draw the plans for him, the tables are completely filled. he won't leave you. and you will be offended for a very long time. well, there was such a person, unfortunately. yes, what a tragic absurd death. yes , a tragic absurd death, and, as it were, absolutely not giving any. well , in general, there was a rationale for losing a lot, aviation with his death. what happened there? you know, here we were just celebrating the naval aviation holiday for the first time, let's say acute ones, and demonstrations were being prepared there

the introduction was being prepared. well, and uh on low planes. here are 39, there were demonstration flights on all the planes that were on the island in the center. one of the flights was to show aerobatics on a su-33 aircraft with questions of super-maneuverability, so to speak. show he made five or six flights. and now, when they took the flight film tester , they were one to one. here is just one to one speed height distance dimension, here is one to one, but on this flight. that's something happened it's hard to say what well something happened and it turned out that with the decline revs are not fully released. and when he had already added speed to the full , it was already too late, but he didn’t catch on, or something, or the cable broke. uh, no, it's sharp were just on earth it's not even a tether. it's not a rope. there would be a rush of stress, and it would go away, that is, we had a lot of ropes torn very badly.

i won’t tell you the truth if you break the cable on the second braking. first we pull the rope. uh, such a first load, then the cable is pulled. and now, if you pulled out less than 100 km there, then you already have to jump with us, uh, yura roots hmm, so i jumped, because the plane practically lost speed there, and when it almost stopped , a self-tapping screw broke, jumped off pavel, he almost jumped the fence. everything worked well technique. that the catapult works at such a height to zero to zero works in fact, this is how much it is thrown out of the cockpit. so it throws out about 75-100 m at about this e, in a special way the parachute swings open additionally and it is already e even seen there was filming of this. hmm, let's say. so events are not very good. uh, when he's right jumps off just goes below the pope goes, the lantern jumps out and he lands already

filled with uh, these parachutes wild overload. up to twenty, probably, yes, a single overload up to twenty. and we , if i'm not mistaken in saki, had a site for the training of naval pilots, since there was a site back in the soviet union, it was created. here she was. why was she there is any, that is, practically the flight crew goes to the ship for training every year. he is through saki, that is, we arrive there and conduct ground training there. we cling exactly the same aircraft carrier. buried in the ground, but there is a possibility, if something happened , to roll along the runway and stop refueling in the air. eh, serious moment. yes, refueling music is a big deal, especially at night. it is very peculiar there. parallax turns out. that is, we have the cone itself, which we must get into the second cone; it is located on the right, on the left, or rather, and when you pilot, it turns out that you somehow have to bring it to several countries. and this parallax is very complex. and so,

when you then learn to do it, then it will not cause any doubts. we have guys there. just stuck right out the boom went away. well , this is during the day, but at night, and at night it’s more difficult, but at night the plane is highlighted for this. here is 124. we were there when we were preparing, they were assigned there for refueling. there is a special illumination lamp, they illuminate the plane, that is, these whole concept of the horizon, like an airplane on the horizon. you see it and the cone itself, which, in general, it is also highlighted in it. uh, on the one hand it's harder on the other the sides are simpler, that is, on the one hand, you don’t see this car here, because when there is 10-15 m to the car, somehow your heart skips a little like that. here, but it’s just easier from the other side, that is, this prolax does not exist. you're going straight into the cone already with an aiming thing, you stumbled and that's it. there is also, as far as i understand, some kind of psychological preparation, because after all, when you work on the ground, you look for a platform,

just in case, always in extremes you can sit on the forest. and it's above water all the time. but you you know you're not going anywhere. if anything, so this is what it is, just naval aviation, which is access to the sea. this is a one way ticket. that is, for example, i don’t even take for a fighter on a ship. this is understandable, as if i were taking a heavy plane, which enters the sea there for 12 hours. so he flew into murmansk. well, there, at the first airfield , he left anyway for 12 hours. the sea left, he left the cube, he went there towards the bosphorus and that's it. and if something happens, then you can't get anywhere. he's in the ocean is located, and therefore, as it were, with the pilots here, you need to get used to this. and secondly, it is without reference area. the most important thing is if you have three technical means on earth and you can somehow understand where to go? how in what way, then you want there, nothing works there. come out i satellite navigation. still, you have some kind of landmarks, not

a satellite, navigation is the last 10 years, 15. and this, and before that, there was nothing at all. only we have a navigator course, who were preparing to fly to the cube, and they flew to cuba like this we sat for a very long time waiting for the weather, because when you pass through greenland, everything is in the kitchen of the weather. it happens there. uh, the oncoming wind movement is 300 km/h. so, when they go there very large flows of horizontal fuel, we had special permissions and they, like naval pilots on ships, were by their numbers , only they only allowed individual ones who were calculating the path to come on someone, but they were already landing in cuba , especially er, mr roman scout. he was with a lot of fuel. but uh anti-aircraft. they planted on the edge. that is, if you are somewhere to the right, you left somewhere, then to the cube. you will not sit down, there will not be enough fuel, just people working in naval aviation. preparation in

all countries is the same, but i'll tell you. so, for example, there were pilots. unfortunately, one has already died, this is sasha raevsky, a hero of the russian federation , a distinguished confessor pilot, and kolya's disk. here we are, when we sat down at night timur saroevsky flew away, and i'm with the disks there, he's in the back of my cockpit, like, uh, a designer pilot. we'll fly there. there dark. here we fly out under the clouds of 300 m, we are pressed down below, it is not clear what i am talking about kolya. listen, this is something the weather is not very good. come on, maybe this most won't be, the length of the airfield. it's very bad there. well, igor, we are two heroes, we cannot do otherwise. i've been after that for myself my teeth are very hard very much like bags you sit. here, as it were, here you are sitting in a bag, i don’t understand, when you come to the ship and see a point and then, as it were, you start to take root in it, it lets go. and it's very hard. it's a special preparation, yes, but now the question arises.