and they put teachers for young people , including those who are singled out, but at the university i just feel it all the time. well, our deputy prime minister, dmitry chernyshenko, said a year ago that the shortage of specialists in the field of it is about 1 million people. the question is, do you feel this from feedback on some of your contacts at work. here, uh, the federal national research center, and what about the return of specialists who choose our country and projects in our country for themselves, as more interesting and than those for which they left, there 5-10 years ago across the ocean, or to europe. you know, i would not say that somewhere there are more interesting or more significant projects; in russia it is necessary to work both together and for a foreign company in inter collective, that

is, globalism in this sense, of course, was present. well, it is present today. do we see the return of the specialists. you know all the time here. well, i've been in this industry for quite some time. if it is possible, so to speak, i see outflows, yes, and waves back. and so this turbulent began the return process. let's go back to the numbers there, to the deadline 10 years ago , the state declared priority. enter the industry and including made an effort to bring back professionals. yes, of course, laboratories were created. where specialists from abroad were invited on a mandatory basis and priority was given to those who, uh, were educated in russia, yes. it was such people there, and as far as uh the topic of artificial intelligence

threatens to become, but if not the magical industry, then at least from there is a significant piece of application of the knowledge of the forces of your graduates. well, for example, there are the same automated processes there for filing legal complaints. yes, or some accounting calculations. here, and everyone is talking about the fact that it is not applicable there in construction, in repair, in some other things. even artificial intelligence can become a psychologist, your opinion on this matter. which because that's sensational? so the last few months it's a gpt chat that's in able to almost there in a few weeks even preparing to pass exams at the same university of bologna. yes, there was a famous case in france of someone with the help of ah, chaja petit paywall, in a few weeks wrote term papers and received a diploma. yes passed the exam. what examples are there? yes, as far as the figure sounds, there

will be lost 300 million places your relationship to this process, to the level at which we are now and what it threatens, if it threatens your e, the branch of your specialty, of course, it is impossible to get around this topic. uh, talking about these technologies. well, anyway, i will make the necessary digression of the remark. uh, for the last 30 years, the economy of all mankind has been developing. first of all, thanks to a scientific achievement, it was during this period 350 years ago that i think the key event happened, namely, there was a differential calculus tool called newton's differential calculus, but at the same time leibniz. this is newton's greatest achievement, not the law of universal gravitation, which, by the way, you can

to explain to our audience what exactly is the greatness of this introduction, that we have received a mathematical apparatus that can express practically all 350 years available to us with a formula. from what it began that very law of universal gravitation, that is, we understood how the planets revolve around the sun in the development of the economy, it began to develop further. this, uh tool appeared cycles. carnot is a thing of the internal combustion engine further appeared the equation at 100%. it's true. you see, it's wind, it's rain. these are ocean currents and so on appeared schroeder equations. and for max, this is our electrodynamics quantum models with you, which

gave us atomic energy, this is exactly what served. those explosive ones, in fact, even 350 years is very little even during the existence of man, as a species somewhere around the middle of the 20th century. a person began to realize that there are processes of an object that cannot be described by differential equations. here, by the same apparatus that gave us something, well, which was amplified by electronic amplifiers. but these objects and processes are there, but here, for example, for example, a text in russian in any human language, well, it’s impossible to describe it with any equations, but no one doubts that it contains a huge amount of information, some believe that in one book, in general, all the information that is still needed. let’s be with you professionally. speaking, you understand that a exist, and this

is only a question of quality and e, volume and availability of the information support that you have, because the random number generator is also calculated, but in order to to extract information from such a kind of object to model them and objects and processes that, well , some, so to speak, original mathematics. based on the well-known fundamental results, in that it began to mathematically accurately operate with such concepts as the similarity of the precedent, the consequence of the volume of mathematical intelligence. that is why the human artificial began to use this terminology, although it is based on normal mathematical disciplines, linear probability theory. here are two basic mathematics. well, functional the analysis returns initially to the question, artificial intelligence is dangerous for

humanity as a whole and for it people more than any other mathematics when we solve the same equations with the samarsky tox or runes. yakut? we do not care about whether these same methods of rungi kuta are dangerous to us or different from that of samara why did we suddenly care, so to speak, whether the methods of artificial neural networks are dangerous or not for us. which are based on the same linear on choice probability theory is very simple, that we come to the conclusion that the person himself is the very danger that can be laid in the development of artificial intelligence of security, you understand, except for the danger of, uh, existence itself. why did these 2,000 people sign a letter about slowing development and taking control of uh, the development of artificial intelligence, you need to carefully look at what they actually asked for so, because uh, they asked to take

control so that this does not come out history and uh, and did not develop within the framework of any a separate state with a certain power to ensure that various reasons for these people, up to the most banal , the same one. well, now gpt, which is now the fourth. well, then he sold his share, maybe he is now worried that his money is gone good assumptions. yes, who knows, so to speak, but personally, i do not see any danger when asimov wrote his three laws of robotics in the sixties, in my opinion. yes, i don't remember exactly. a year, but even then humanity was concerned , well, let's say it's better than his minds. what can threaten and how can the development of artificial intelligence be brought under control , that is, you think that all these processes are absolutely controllable, and firstly, i believe that they

have nothing to do with human intelligence all these processes. bye. perhaps, according to that level of e-e development, the rate of development of counting capacity, in the end, if you want, and how many more decades? probably they will be related to artificial intelligence. that's right, why is michael here the human brain is so unique and emotions are so important and, let's say, an uncalculated emotional component that it cannot be repeated, firstly, we must still talk not about the brain, or at least not only the brain, but the person in general , everything is based on some kind of physical, well, in the general case, processes, but so far a person has not even come close to understanding how a bridge works. these are the same physiologists neurophysiologists who are aware of this. yes , we see something, but we are infinitely far away. to me

seems to understand how it works. i agree with you, so answer the question 20 30 200 or 300 years. i never answered never. this is a very worthy answer. and at least he's clear. i really love answers like this. this is the answer in math. i can only note here that pay attention to how quickly the topics with unmanned vehicles were curtailed all over the world and in russia , of course, development continues, but nevertheless, as hot, the more simple tasks have already begun tackle there as agricultural machinery. yes, there are harvesters here in russia we have the academic boat company, that is, trams and electric trains, and so on. that is, where it is easier to arrange, uh, the monetization of agricultural production. it's not just a combine. these are sensors on tree trunks that provide the required amount of moisture, and fertilizers and so on. this is really a huge benefit, there is 2-3%,

uh, efficiency in the smelting of uh complex, so to speak, there uh alloys. this is also a colossal benefit if you apply the methods that we call artificial methods. the innovations that are now in russia are the control of drones technology regarding road transport. i've always felt weird. uh, it seems to me much more effective not to betray the human qualities of the car and make it. so to speak , like a person, well, without a person it is much more efficient to build under a friend in general the principle of controlling a moving object. i agree, yes, when we begin to transfer, then we immediately balk at what these technologies are, which actually reveal achilles without a form. very many

manifestations of work since the evening, for example, here is the gpt chat. this is work with speech, we were taught at school that speech, sometimes written and oral, here, working with written jesus in russia, there are similar developments. right away, that is , it is by no means possible to belittle our capabilities of our competencies, the implementation part suffers, in the end, in russia, yes. and these federal communications centers, management mathematics, the authors are now working here. well, such achievements. you can name a lot. you and i uh understand and i i hope our audience understands that in the short time given to our program

to discuss exactly. here is a very important question, that money can be not only invested and there you can get this very passive income, but also active income and we do our own work, and very interesting work with creativity , science, and so on. you can use it. here is the same e that is heard by all topics and we discussed it with you. what is the specific role of the faculties of russian mathematics, cybernetics, moscow state university how does our government support this industry? so what? eh, in principle, money is not the main thing in a person's life. and what is the main thing, what is needed for happiness , we live in a country and in a society that makes a person happy, you need not to give up this feeling and not run away, you need to understand. finally, that you and i live happily in a good place in a good society. i very much look forward to continuing the dialogue.

thank you for an interesting conversation. thank you for your replies and we look forward to seeing you. thanks again for the invitation. hello this is a podcast triggers and we are with you sergey on ourselves tatyana krasnovskaya, practicing psychologists and psychotherapists and our guests nastasya hello hello nastya tell us what kind of request did you come to us? well , i have a very complicated relationship with my mom. uh-huh hmm i would describe it as a roller coaster, but hmm and as i get older, how would the complexity of these roller coasters. she intensified. a and. the older she stopped, the more difficult it was for us, as it were, to find a common language with each other, for now. i studied at school.

everything in general was fine. well, okay. i was in my teens. and how my mother raised me. eh, all my life, but at least she was. well, as if you were engaged in upbringing, mom, dad was present, you had some kind of relationship. we communicate with dad. i mean, i know his current family. i know, i communicate with my brother. builds they are divorced, they divorced when i was a year old, and hmm while i was in school. everything was like this. well, probably within the normal range, when a teenage child, how would he grow up, then it got harder. i turned 18. i finished school there at 19 and started working. and so, when i started working, everything, as it were, began to pick up, just such very high speed. that is, we generally began to stop understanding each other and i see. we had some kind of tension , irritation, and we just couldn’t communicate, and hmm, at some point it reached

its peak and ended with me in ended up moving away from her mother. we parted, i was 21 years old, and now you are 23. and we parted, but we parted in a scandal very big and uh, after i moved out, we, in my opinion, for two or two and a half months did not communicate at all. and i even remember how we started talking, she became very ill and hurt. it was mother's day. it was just the last sunday of november, and i thought that i should congratulate my mother and so we started talking again and since then there has been such a trend that we are really like on a rollercoaster, that is, we are on the rise, we we communicate. we're all great. there is love. eh, mutual understanding, fun is everything cool and something happens, and we just fly down and stop talking. and at this moment, when we are flying down , we stop communicating with you. i have a wild feeling

. hmm well, i guess i feel loneliness, after all, as an abandoned kitten, and it always hurts me a lot for the last time. e is like that. we had a quarrel, in my opinion, in november just after that we seemed to have worked out for ourselves. an acceptable way to communicate, meaning it ended up with us just, well, wishing each other happy holidays, meaning new year's eve christmas there and that's about it, as it were, somehow, but here's how to come to terms, still with this and stop experiencing this pain. i don’t know, and there is one more, as it were, a big question, which also torments me very much. uh, these situations where we fight, and this is the mechanic i use in my current own family. i mean , i mean, well, we live with a guy, yes, that is, i said married, very integrated into

each other, as it were, and in the sense of a very warm relationship. this is my family, but with him i kind of did the same thing that happened to me with my mom and it lets me go very quickly when i accelerate, but i really want to stop doing this, because i know how much it hurts, and i really don’t need to do this in a relationship with your young man, as your mother does with you . that is , you will recognize yourself in your reactions as a mother. yes , right here in general 100%, that is, even its expression. ah, script behavior. that is, here . well, right, yes, but only, uh, my mother grabbed it for a very long time. that is, after such a quarrel, we could not communicate there for a month and a half, and this was very big and as if such a scandal was always directly cursed. and well, everything was just serious, and then i accelerate, i have enough for 5-10 minutes there. i understand that something is wrong, and i'm a little bit eclipsed, and it lets me go. and somehow i'm trying

to clean it all up after myself. this is exactly what psychology calls the difference between temperament and character, because temperament is an innate range, and character is an acquired defense, and it is clear that your reactions are, so to speak, appropriated by the mother, some actions, but yours. just not long enough. mom can be silent for a long time. and i don’t know you there, leave in half an hour. and why do you need a mother at the age of 23 , would you yourself be a mother already? so i can't answer this question. true, i understand that uh. i'm like an adult now . i am working. i am able to provide for myself. and it’s like i don’t need someone , but uh, well, at some point, when i realized that i still have a family, uh, i reconciled. well, it really let me down a lot. that is, i kind of agreed with the fact that we have such a relationship with my mother, but i still hurt inside. well, somehow, i will always have the feeling that such

a family is needed, so that the parents are all together there. here it is, as it were, that is, there was this ideal picture of the world, and then i realized that it was simply impossible. well, just like that, that is , it is so impossible that when i imagine, even my own wedding is there. it's terrible to admit, but i just can't imagine my mom in this picture. that is , as if they did not want her there was present or you are afraid of how she will behave. i would like her to be present, but i'm afraid it's like two different worlds. well, probably, yes, i 'm afraid that she'll say something there, well , she'll do it, it's unlikely, but uh, yes, say something. maybe, especially since she does not accept my personal life very well, that is, my boyfriend. eh, don't like it. yeah , i guess so we just had a situation where uh. there were three of us at the same table. i am my mother to him a young man and it was terrible. well, that is, i wanted here we are

to fall under the table honestly, because my mother, it seems to me, did not behave very correctly towards him, although he, as it were, she saw him at that time for the second time in her life and strange, well, it seems to me strange to draw conclusions about a person, which you don't actually know, i can't say exactly for the conclusions she made, because she didn't voice them. well then there it is, well you can just say it. i don't like it and i say why don't you like it? well, that's all i don't like. why, you each you think that she yours should like it. she says i don't like it. why is the question here. why? well, it's just purely interesting. well, no, i don't agree. well, you will now show me the photographs of your young man. i'll tell you i don't like it. well, i doubt you 'll be interested. why don't i like him? well, i agree. yeah, i won't be interested. why is he that's why mom doesn't like him, you wonder, all of a sudden, in fact, of course, you would like her to like him. yes, of course, but she doesn't like him there is no such thing, i understand, i don’t like how

it happens, but why do you need her to answer your question? why do i like it? well , given that i actually lived all my life with my mother and my mother was, as it were, the center of my universe. and this is normal up to a certain age. yes, this is normal, but mom always had her own opinion , and i was always panicky, uh, scared that she wouldn’t like what i do, of course, i do or choose someone or something else from me. well, right now the tears are so close. i would i wanted to tell how to tell what you feel there when it doesn't work out that way. well, because it's like she doesn't every time . mm, well, not every time, but it's often like she doesn't accept or doesn't understand me and my choice. and for some reason it really hurts me,

although it would seem. what's the difference adult. for some reason, this always hurts me a lot, because there it seems that if you are loved, you should be accepted. well, yes , maybe then it is worth answering the question, when for the first time in your life did you feel that your mom doesn't love you. well, probably, when, just at that moment, right at all, when i moved away from her, we stopped communicating with her, and she didn’t even ask clarifying questions, even like where i’m leaving, who i’ll be with live how i will live, and after that she was generally not interested in my life. well, globally said that she was indifferent to you. did you say that a mom was the center of your universe and did you feel that you were

the center of the universe for mom? well, i can’t say what i felt, but i’m talking about it reminded, that is, she seemed to be saying that you are my sun, you are my joy. not even like that. she is what, uh, she does a lot to educate me, so that i grow up, so that i can do everything, uh, so that i can be just some kind of, well, superhuman, you can bring and not. but that is, she never forgot. how much she is betting on you for you. yes , it, in my opinion, did not develop further eternal life. and this, too, seemed to be explained by the fact that she chose me, and not her personal life. you said the feelings that you knew what my mother showed me. what are you important, but

did you feel? what are you? i don't know at what point you changed. but here i clearly know that, well, these are my memories, my feelings until the moment i went to school. everything was great. eh, that is, we were right in general in perfect harmony. we were for each other, and the most important people, probably, in life. where did you travel. we went we somehow. yes, we were together everything was cool. and so, when i went to school, probably in the first class . but already when they started to put at school assessments there are some stories, and already it seems to be beginning to change somehow. well, somehow this feeling is, well, my uh-huh, according to my memories. they were already different. that is, these fears began to appear in me that they would scold me, what is there? i did something wrong and some restrictions have already begun. that is

, they did not go there without walking. yes, punishment, there is something else, and gradually gradually it all grew, and as if the scandals were stronger and this sense of reliability, which was before the bad school days. she started a little crumble. yes, when mom you know that mom will accept and mom, your reliable rear. uh-huh , going to school with grades with some kind of meeting with society. it started to fall apart a little. yes, there was even a story when i was so afraid that they scared me for grades, that she me, when we did homework, she taught me to correct. mistakes, well, with an eraser and a blade , and i took note of this and corrected it in my diary. well, of course, the class teacher betrayed me with fucking, and i got several times stronger. well, that is i was received several times stronger kickbacks, i received from my mother several times

stronger than if i just told that i had a deuce, but i got it for lying, right? well, of course, what is the most terrible punishment your mother came up with for you when you did not meet her expectations, of course, silence. i asked you a question. when did you first feel that your mother does not love you. i think it was at the moment when mom stopped contact with you for the first time, probably, yes, and it's scary. it's horrible. and i know what it is for her. this is the same terrible punishment, of course. now, when your mother is not interested in you, she is silent, as it were, and, therefore, does not love. but only there were six, and now he is 23 and today's. our task is to get you out of there, so that at least you can get your head out of there with

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you sergey tatyana krasnovskaya, psychology therapists and we are talking about nastasya, and her relationship with her mother is from another person. well, i just wish it was, so i can safely share with her something that is important to me, and even if i don't like it, it's good, so it's good. perhaps this is all i would like to understand after all. yes , tell me if you and i ended up on a desert island together with no hope

of being rescued and you had to somehow build a relationship with me. but now imagine that you speak russian, and i speak chinese, how would you share your fears with me, but handfuls, well, probably it remains for us sign language. ok then. i would be surprised, but the chinese do not understand our languages ​​of european states. well, here you are gesticulating in full something say and i look at you and smile. i think you are telling me some cute stories. gained my understanding through what why how would you deal with the fact that i do not understand you? no

answer, well, the truth is, they come, with the same to live somehow, really, the very moment when you would have matured. probably somehow it would be necessary to explain in the first place, to explain. secondly, to somehow cope with the fact that the other person does not understand you. there is another very important point - what you require from your mother, you do not give her. how could mom describe? let's imagine such a situation, what is mom here now? it seems to me that she might also have said that i don’t understand her, but it seems to me so, because there is no other answer, because if he simply must be looked at objectively. i'm not the wrong

kid to disown and say, i don't know him and i don't want that. well, why, well, i probably did not grow up the way she imagined, but globally, i have a profession. i have an education , i’m like a normal, adequate, all good person. well it is more like yes. well, i do not suffer from any vices, everything is there, everything is fine. that is, in general, it seems to me that such children are not refused. and probably she would also just say that we have one a great misunderstanding that we are simply standing on different sides of this abyss. it seems to me that, well, the only thing is when i talk to my dad and tell him some stories that we have some kind of situation. he tells me that they did the same. and there is this moment, that anger, she

compares me with him, of course, that is, she says, you are reduced, of course, you are all in him, yes, yes. you look like him, you're a breed, i'm really a copy of my dad. i'm just outwardly, of course, it gives her great discomfort. well, there's no going back. mom k unfortunately not, i believe me, fortunately you know, your story with your mother reminded me of one very interesting love story, which is described in the kama sutra in our morning. these are not pictures, the young man and the girl were very fond of each other and were waiting for permission to marry before the wedding. they are natural. and so they got married. and when they got married, according to the tradition of this place in india, there is such a tradition that the first wedding night, and the newlyweds spend in their parents' houses, when it is already possible, but they still have to endure. well, here they are after that.

dispersed in the lady of their parents. and, of course, having waited for the sunrise, they ran towards each other, but when they came running , it turned out that between their villages, the ganges flowed a great great river without beginning and end, which could not be overcome. i have not lived my whole life just looking at each other from different banks. yes, there is a similarity in this and there is a way out, because you and your mother are like two very prickly hedgehogs, which , if put in one box, they will definitely stab each other, you need a distance, you need a distance. and, of course, in the moment you went to school, besides what happened. ah. well, i'll call it tertiary separation. yours from mom. yes, you reacted differently, ah, but you reacted the same way, firstly, you ended up, and in a society that now evaluates you, and seems to objectively evaluate and all evaluations are important for

your mother, including, but you don’t correspond to the assessments that are there. i mean, it's not just fives. and of course, mom begins to somehow educate you in this sense, but the educational process does not nothing to do with love. education is training. and, of course, when i asked you a question, when did you first feel that your mother did not love you it was then when your mother began to evaluate you through the grades that you bring from school, suppose and there, when she fell silent, you, of course, became uncomfortable. the fact is that that little nastya was really not able to cope with this. well, yes, but today you are already an adult woman. and this is also true , it's just time to grow up, apparently, to give mom the right not to explain to you. why does she not like your boyfriend. well, yes, you understand a lot of other things to give your mother, because this is the only way you will show understanding of her position. well, i agree, just then, besides the fact that

my boyfriend just doesn't like it. she told me about it and, uh, yes, there was a question why, but there was another hmm , it seems to me, an important moment, i, uh, told her , i’m happy with this person and my mother told me this, but i didn’t i see that you are now, i am not alone. your young man will never be good enough. well , as if, when i was there in the eleventh grade and met with a boy from my school, who she liked, he just walked by the handles there. so she liked him, we walked by the handles in this matter. yes, probably, as if this was a problem, a bet on you, so no one who will be next to you will cause wild delight in your mother. but it seems to me that this is a question, but in the manifestation you are offended by your mother's manifestations, when she thus showed you that it was not very beautiful. i understand so, yes showed

you that your young man you do not like. she does not like. it was just very annoying. and uh, i just kind of, i didn't even have questions then. e. what, well, how can he, well, maybe you don’t like it? and i had more of a question, like ok, i don't like it. well, why is that? for what? is this how to show? you ruined her life. well, i'm not on purpose , i'm not going to destroy yours on purpose. she just does it in a certain way. she does this completely unconsciously. well , how to live? is this easy to accept? how fact? well, well, here you live, for example, a neighbor and a neighbor are not at all interested in your happiness personally, but you somehow manage, it doesn’t mean at all that she doesn’t love you. i really hope you remember

how, in your childhood, for the first time, for example, maybe for the first time, you experienced fear that your mother would not. i started experiencing it. uh, when i got older and started catching myself on this, when we had already parted, it made me feel very bad. well, mom won't, sooner or later. yes, i seem to be i understand, but that doesn't make it any easier. subconsciously , somewhere this wakes up and drives me into some kind of funnel to drive thoughts. i think what will happen next. i don't know , no one has ever resisted. he still people die, just continue to live. this is true. well , as if i understand that, probably, i can continue to live with this, of course,

you can’t with one. you will not be able to because you did not have time to tell mom how much you love her. about it. by the way, i also thought, well, and then maybe you should learn to talk to mother until the moment when you confess your love, without expecting that she will tell you this. i do this periodically and we recently had a conversation at christmas she herself took the initiative. she congratulated me. honestly. now i don't remember what she wrote to me. she, in general, i sort of answered that i propose to simply love each other and accept each other, and answered. well live with it hug and i'm like hmm