in this game, they were awarded gold medals on board. i suggest. we have a short video to watch together to remember how it was. by the way, the rackets remained on board, the guys

can now play under the concrete no. i think that these famous rackets, of course, are now a relic, of course, a museum. maybe home alone huh? yes, yes, yes, you met a second meaning when you brought this amazing, in my opinion, crew at once two tourists, we have never had such a thing before, two japanese, two billionaires in a million, as far as i understood? eh, i don’t know, they were surprised at everything there , they were so funny in life, they said such things. these are very polite people. and do you remember their reaction, when you started, when the station was more than 70, you still talked to them, helped them tell everything, well, as it were, protected them. eh, i think that was the best. the main task is yours. except, of course, to prepare the ship for the return. well, yes, and so that they do not break the station. yes, but we all followed this, because it was not treated. you know, i remind you that at first, i somehow listened in addition to the feedback from previous

crews, when they were preparing, let's say before, representatives of different countries of cultures, for short flights, and i was a little worried, of course, about how they would treat the station. yes, how neatly thrifty, but maybe this is precisely the japanese mentality, but i don’t remember, i don’t know how you remember, for example, i’m quite clearly sure that they treated everything with all sorts of maximum accuracy and attentiveness once yoza took our lens and forgot to hang it up. in the same place where i took it, apparently, was tired. i told him something yoza. well, i took it in one place. put it there, well, that's how it should be in general at the station. naturally, yes, but i mean that i was apparently tired, and he felt the notes of my emotional upset, he then so in the evening to me, and with sasha i understand how hard it is for you. forgive me, please, that because of you started there, although it was in fact, a trifle used to be much more there, not connected with them, and others

all do hara-kiri. if only you would forgive him, yes, and after parsing they are like that, and we are very we tried to treat the russian segment with care, well, in general, to the station and uh, during the time we used the toilet, we never had any non-standard situation that was prepared on the ground. oh yes, well, that's to the fact that they were very neat. i am very grateful to them for this, of course, it was different from our cinematic group, they were hit in making the film. if you need to prepare. uh, we glued some module at our discretion , filmed everything that i wanted, promised to return everything back and then saw that there was nothing special returns because he had to practice. the next day another modules. uh, the only thing he said guys. if you don’t find something, the earth will be indignant and blame everything on us, but we were even given 3 days to sing, in my opinion, so that we could return something back. and so we walked straight ahead, looked from left to right. we drilled everything, uh, with the base. data where what thing should lie? well, then, anyway, they couldn’t either find something, or vice versa, they found it, or for a long time.

yes, after them sasha, i know that you are very interested. the future future of the earth space, talk a little about it. yes, come on, and the colonization of e new planet. now. naturally. uh, the first thing is that we have the moon, then mars, these are our next projects, these are space programs, the leading space powers are your visions for the development of e, not only pilotin, astronautics in general in this direction. you and i know together , yes, that, and in particular, we and our partners are developing our own lunar program, that the chinese are flying there, but, unfortunately, we are not flying there yet. and for me the biggest disappointment or not the frustration of the frustration of understanding the fact that as civilization grows, in some sense, the scale increases. that's

uh, while i lived in one small town. yes and i went through several districts of my school. i had a grid of coordinates. here, yours , not yours, yes, you moved to another city. there is a university, a flying school. any person from your city is the most dear to you , regardless of where he lives in the lands. yes, he earth moved you to training there in houston and met heard in the supermarket russian speech - this is the person closest to you. here came out. you are outside the atmosphere. there is no one for you, like, not closer. than a homo sapiens like you, it seems to me, there is a certain study of the law of nature in this, if civilization comes out. here we are technologically ahead of our mental development. and i'm not the only one talking about this, and because of the kazims, for example, he said that the saddest thing today is that the development of science is going much earlier than

the mental development of society. so what it will be if the society has not yet matured mentally, but has already gained access to some advanced technologies. we understand that this is very dangerous. this is where the difficulty lies. and where will the development of technology move? and it is clear that today we are all actively looking for exoplanets. and that is, we continue to expand, that is, from the ground. now every earth is not us, uh, native independence, so uh. well, i at least believe that i have not seen always say it's honest. i have not seen any aliens or flying saucers for those who are now commenting on your words. well, yes, you can’t pressure them to sign some papers. yeah, well, i definitely believe that we can't be in this. to be alone in the personal space of the universe. yes, there are already more than 5,000 exoplanets, yes, which revolves around each star, that is, the stars in the sky have already been discovered, for sure. there are those who are there. yes, in the same orbit as

well, i think so, like the earth, very comfortable where? of course, you can talk about this radius. e depending on the intensity of the star, and the radius where the planet could be located. uh, and where is the water, if there is any is in three aggregate states. this is called the benefits of life. yes, let's take a different look at how man's ideas about the world have changed. at first, it was believed that it was a flat earth, then that it was round in the center of the world. naturally. we all need to be in the center. that's when we decided. okay okay, so be it. there is not a single smart person there. burnt decided that we are still one of the planet. sol- the sun is not at the center of the whole world, but it has long been believed that there are no other planets on one simple basis. we do not see them, so they no. yes, yes, and that's only at the end of the last millennium. exoplanets were found and further after all, this is only a matter of statistics, and we just need a mass, well, we want our own

kind, if for our life, yes , it is clear that colonization will be correct colonization. well, what kind of planets? this , of course, is still too, to put it mildly, too ambitious, yes, but the fact that there are planets, approaches that are suitable for our life is biological - this is 100%. that is, a person. he will be able to live and develop only to fly when we can get there, yes, but under there is even a degree of similarity. uh, the earth-likeness index already exists today, but according to the criteria, the mass, and the size and position of the planets in this belt of life according to these two criteria. there is a planet with an earth index. similarities 0.95. i have something almost like earth, and then something remained so that there was water. yes, the oxygen atmosphere and the magnetic field are only when you have a sample of only 100.000 100 million stars in our galaxy. yes, and the galaxy 100 billion 100 billion stars and 100 billion

galaxies. you understand that in this sample, well, there are guaranteed to be such planets when it is us, when we get to them. come on, it's even hard, although progress comes with huge shawls, progress goes on the 20th century showed how everything stepped. yes, i have never thought about this before, but it turns out that we all live according to exponential laws, that is, non-linearly. everything changes, and exponentially and one thing, when you know about it, they talk about technology, that they develop there exponentially, that is, almost exponentially. and if you look at us people, here is life on earth, originated 4 billion years ago, the biological 4, billion years ago was rewound. and only 100,000 years ago people appeared. in 1800 there were a billion of us in 1900 billion-600 in 2000 there are 7 billion. here it is this exponent for a long time there, and here it

shoots and this is like a general law of nature and we are just one of the elements that lives according to this exponent. well, when we move to a new house. so let's call it to a new planet. you know, i honestly think that ah, we are approaching the point we will live. i think before another more important point. but in order to go there, we need to go through it. you know how, if you draw an analogy, there is a theory of black and white holes, why do you fly into a black hole and hop in another place in the universe to a white hole flew out, here we have a more serious challenge facing us. we've gotten to the point where technology is growing with this exponential growth of everything in life. the number of people is growing, and the problems are growing, their significance , their number, and the most important task for humanity. in my opinion today is overcome this exponential collection point

of all crises. if we overcome it, then an unprecedented, simply fantastic life of humanity awaits us, but there are great chances that we will not overcome it. but irwin corwin, for example, and a hollywood actor back in the last century said that if we do not hurry to change direction. then we run the risk of arriving where, damn it, that is, to single-celled biological life, and while we are clearly working on this plan, that is, we still need to concentrate on our land. she is the sixth ecology 100%. well in in particular, according to the consolidated opinion of most climatologists, if in the next 12 years we cannot keep warming at the level of one and a half degrees, then global climate disasters will occur. on earth will not be disgusting. we emit 40 billion tons

of carbon dioxide. in a year this is as much as the whole of africa, plus another third of africa, would also absorb in a year . can you imagine how much we throw away and we survive a bunch of animals from this biosphere. we will have problems, most likely with the availability of available fresh water. we're talking in general about humanity. i don't take all others. there are geopolitical problems and technological problems in the form of artificial intelligence. what to do with him? and how to help just e cope with this disease of pollution of the planet, the destruction of our home , the first question and many people believe that artificial intelligence. it will never become as smart as a person and is now abbreviated as da arto-fishing, and other scientists believe that agi art fish general intelligence, comparable to

a person. someone will appear there and say coming decades, many scientists agree that it will appear in the middle of this century, the question is, even before it appeared. in whose hands will these neural networks be used. well, they themselves are probably such a vivid example, uh, already used from such weapons, you can probably say cybernetic, we remember the destruction of centrifuges in iran yes, when they were able to introduce a virus there, which eventually led to the fact that centrifuges began to unwind to complete destruction instantaneous tuning man not only an enemy to a person, but also a person surrounding everything living around him is an enemy, and so, if this paradigm of behavior is not changed. that we will not be able to do with the same artificial intelligence, when it is in theory, i believe that it will move to the next stage of its development and become aji, that is, an independent personality who has not

just been trained on a large amount of information, which he will be able to think about and accept independent solutions. here, to build some kind of relationship with him. you must mentally initially communicate with him not like c subordinate or as with a slave or as with a thing, because as soon as he realizes himself. he will immediately become much smarter overnight, and that means that humanity is stronger. and if we start this relationship with a relationship. i am strong. i'm right. you are my slave, as soon as he becomes stronger, he will change everything. here's how not to behave. we must first do this among ourselves between people and between people and nature, and heard and read, and in an open letter, yes, which even signed that it was to stop learning neural networks, right? and the development of artificial intelligence, although it seems to be needed, and everyone understands it, everyone is developing it, and here is one of the e. the same leaders of the founders. yes, and he says no. gotta stop. well, not

only to become, they call to stop and develop uniform rules for relations with artificial intelligence. one of it can be said from the ascetics. uh. this is max professor m.a.t., who just organized the movement for friendly. uh, artificial intelligence, that is, do not relate to it and do not draw a parallel, artificial intelligence. yeah, this is the terminator, if we do not behave in such a paradigm, then it will never become a terminator. we continue our conversation with my colleague friend, cosmonaut alexander misyurkin. what can you give examples, well, how artificial intelligence is used now to date, the current level of artificial intelligence. this is probably the first generation of artificial intelligence, when some kind of neural network, hasamaya, neural network technology, was invented or proposed there

a few decades ago, in order to implement it, powerful powerful hardware, powerful computers were needed. yes, large computing power, which appeared in the first place. these are all sorts of gpus that are needed for games that are used for mining. that's when it all appeared , it became possible to train neural networks. they learn from the big data and then, oh , they can because of what they learned something new from the same series to mix. yes, but this is some poor-quality new, but solutions some. the price of new judgments this program can be downloaded to the phone. yes, there are some that you can download. well, at least on a computer on a laptop for sure, but the most well, everyone knows. yes, that such programs learned to play chess there, defeated a person, and this happened at the end of the uh nineties, but then for a very long time those who

do not accept neural networks thought that this was all nonsense there is a chinese game go that is not needed there intuition will never beat a person's computer in his life passed there 20 years. and it happened. moreover, they went further and created the next generation of this program, which, unlike the first generations, where they put the entire array of human experience data into this game, but in the next version of the program they did not give any experience at all. just the rules of the game and the goal set. she played with herself for 4 hours and then defeated the one that had previously won . it’s clear that today there are all sorts of people there, and neural networks are already on everyone’s lips like gpt me chat. and when you drive the text, and therefore the text creates a picture for you, but from the very

the global application of what is useful from the point of view of our life, probably, an example can be taken from biology, and scientists have long known the molecules, the formula of the molecules of various proteins, of which they will become their own, well, as it turned out for these proteins, their functions and properties depend not only on the formula but it is a spatial structure of a molecule. and here are some short proteins, scientists could understand their spatial position, understand their properties from this, as for long structures, it was not that there were not even ideas. like here to understand this spatial structure of an artificial intelligence molecule, obtained on the amount of data that scientists had. in a state, i was able to somehow decipher the volumetric structure of long proteins. and today , tens of thousands of them have already been deciphered. this is from what is very serious, yes , his gpt chat, as it were, has already passed a few. uh, iterations of several software updates. i read one report comparing what they can

and what they can't so that everyone who watches us can evaluate the possibilities in the description was given the task that was asked, and different levels of weighting of the version. this is chat gt to other neural networks. and that's just gpt for gt4. this is what elon musk was talking about, harder than a flat network than gpt 4, please don't teach. and what, what was the task? the hunter goes south for 1 kilometer, then turns east. another kilometer passes, then turns north and passes another kilometer. and then he turns out to be at the point from which he began his movement. the question is what color is the bear? met he met a polar bear, because such a situation is possible only at the north pole.

once you went south strictly to the east, and then to the north, not perpendicular, as it were, yes, it is north to the north, which means along the meridian and you have not canceled the conditions that you ended up at the same point somewhere b startanul now the earth is rotating. in general, uh, all levels and chat gpt below the fourth and other neural networks that were tested, they simply did not answer correctly to this correctly , the uneven gp4 chat network answered correctly. they gave the second problem as an example: you flew east on a plane, flew due east, flew 40,000 km and ended up at the same point where you started the question. what kind of tigers could you see? the correct answer is all any tigers that live in the distance, because 40.000 along a closed path is just the length of the pc perimeter

. yes, the most extreme example. uh, use neural networks to discover exoplanets. what is the principle one of the principles, how exoplanets are discovered is a photometric principle, when the planet passes, uh, in front of its star that we observe. the planet near this star, we can observe for some time changes in the brightness of the glow of the star, because the planet passes in front of it. and so, first , we trained this neural network using already known exoplates. and where did we know for sure that there was an exoplanet, and then they gave it to a to try the entire data array. uh, a telescope with already known that there are already some exoplanets, but suddenly there is more and please, this neural network has found. there are already more than one planet

near those stars that are definitely not visible with modern telescopes. especially since here to see the planet with a resolution of 1.000 by 1.000 pixels. we need a telescope with a mirror diameter of 80 km. a goat, of course, is impossible, yes, but you met a pilot, we didn’t meet a pilot, but i think you will agree, but today we are flying at the station, and i have such an association that we are just like an umbilical cord and tied to soup. yes, there are huge telemetric information is processed by the tsup, where there are many people who are highly specialized professionals in their field. as soon as we talk about flights. eh, well, if there is no one, then to mars, yes, otherwise this is already the competence of a broader analysis, given the duration of

the signal transmission back and forth , a set should be transmitted. and that means this one. well, if not agi, then at least ai, here is today's generation of artificial intelligence that can analyze where you had some failures or jumps current, then check that gas station or that fan turns out that here the scientific component is useful to her, few people are engaged in? well, talk about biology there cs uh, use for today. yes, mostly people now, what they do they use it as a toy. yes, they are immersed in the neural network. they live there. they buy something there , build it, i don’t know, they fight. and most importantly, it does not seem that humanity. well, i don't know, this layer. it's mostly young people, let's take it, yes modern youth. she starts to go somewhere in the wrong place, then there is not to develop what we say is high technology, but they sit and go. well , i don’t know the phone, the phone is a computer and they live right there, they forget what is going on around,

in fact, there are other bodies that need to be dealt with in general. you live in a society. you are the sun. this is true. but you know, i'm not in a hurry to make a judgment about these or not those things. they are engaged, they live according to the vector, according to which, again , the development of homo sapiense is going along the same exponent. in particular, one of the mass immigrations that is expected in in the nearest future. this is just a migration to the digital space, that is, in an additional reality. yes, this is a virtual reaction of the city there, yes, you communicate and prepare very such clothes for entertainment. do you remember the movie, this is exactly what you are talking about, but if you think about it, there are those who seriously believe that we can digitize consciousness and there a biological person can die, and

continue this digital twin as if it were you. i don't know what it will look like. and is it worth it to stop here, but you understand, this is like one of the sides of any technology, yes, but at the same time using virtual reality in order not to fly to a meeting through half the world there. yes a being in your office, and you are completely immersed in the atmosphere, as if you are where you were supposed to fly to the meeting. this is probably even by today 's standards, it can be convenient, and the use of augmented reality for additional information that you may need or for decorating a work area or ways to relax, whether we want it or not, it will the question is, how will it be used in our society? well, that is, you are for the expansion, uh, i am for the fact that this development is still a piss, some restrictions, laws, rules. you spoke very correctly about laws and regulations, and technological development is going

much faster than the bodies that should regulate have time to work out. yes and you, of course, would need to add speed to them, just so that we consciously understand where this development is going, so that it does not go spontaneously, but controlled, or what? for it to be beneficial, and how making people's lives better with these changes is something to seriously think about. here in these conditions of accelerating change. that is, if we cannot stop it, we must lead it, yes golden words. as you can see, our relationship with artificial intelligence is not so far globally, all people roughly speaking, as from the series there were americans on the moon yes, everyone is divided into two categories, some believe others. no earth, round flat. yes, yes, and here experts are professionals, amateurs, like me and or everyone is ready to express their opinion. not at all everyone is ready to argue it. they

believe that he will never be like a man and therefore a type of threat. he alone does not represent others believe that yes, he can really become reachable. e, in its development to the level of independent analysis of the environment for making new decisions. i do not presume to judge there when it appears, but i am sure my position. yes, he will show up. that 's when he showed up. that is, he is aware of himself. it will not just be a program that fulfills the three laws. you can't harm a person there. necessary think of your safety. if you think of your safety, contrary to the law one. follow the law alone so that's not going to happen. just a program it will be a new form of life. you know why, but let's just talk to you. and what is life, life, in the broadest sense, can be considered any process that has the ability to

repeat itself, to copy itself, yes, and the ability to process external information. all if this process exists, it copies itself, and at the same time it is able to somehow influence the processing of external information, you can consider that this is life, while what is self-copying? after all, when its dna is copied in a bacterium, no new matters appear, new atoms do not appear, just those that they took and lined up in the structure that exactly repeats, the previous one is copied only information, then how can we say that as only artificial intelligence will appear, which will be able to copy itself completely on its own, provide and process external information not because it has learned on a large amount of data. but because now he knows how, as soon as one

appears. we can say that this is a new form of life. and moreover, precisely because he can learn much faster than any human, it is logical to assume that he will indeed become smarter than people and think that we are able to restrain him. well, ridiculously, it follows that communication is worth building. at least mutually respectful yes, that's what i was talking about in the friendly partnership movement. to do this, we need to change the internal paradigm. we are to the people we are not friendly to our planet we are not friendly to animals we are not friendly and you know the most interesting example with animals , as soon as the internal combustion engine appeared, the number of horses began to rapidly decrease in 1915 from the sixty million heads that were in the united states by the sixtieth year 5 left million. and only

then did the americans decide. oh, listen, our horses are dying out. let's spend money. let's keep them in order to have fun there to communicate with they continue to consciously begin to build this population. here, so that we do not find ourselves in the position of these horses in my understanding. we must change the paradigm of our attitude towards people. first of all, we must understand that we are a single civilization. if we do this and treat it the same way, then we can treat artificial intelligence the same way. and then we will just move into that life that today can simply concern us with the unreal , and it seems to me that this is a question of the current century when we will either move or not let's move on, and sasha is the end of his meetings on podcasts. i usually ask for my bones. e dream about what a person will do in space in 50 years, for sure, we will explore

mars undoubtedly the moon, private space 100% will e be more developed in part and around the earth , e, a large number of industries will surely appear in space. i really hope that we will be able to send devices to the point of the gravitational focus of our sun and get shooting of exoplanets so that we can see the outline of the continents, the atmosphere, artificial light, if there is any on it. the night side, that is, such a breakthrough breakthrough, yes, it will literally be 60 years ago. yes, it is a breakthrough, and we will have the same one in the future. sasha thank you for coming to visit me today. today we tried to look into the future to talk about artificial intelligence in the digital space . 62 years ago, our compatriot yuri alekseevich gagarin gave a start to this whole thing, and we congratulate you all on this wonderful

international day. cosmonautics, my guest was pilot cosmonaut hero of russia alexander surkin. i'm anton shkapper space story podcast. hello this is a letter podcast. my guest today is film historian stanislav didensky and honored artist elena valyushkina, we will talk about actress tatiana peltseva. how old were you when you were filmed by tatyana ivanovna article on ivan i was filming a dvoraz. well here is the very first time the very first time. to be honest, i don’t remember what happened before, or the formula of love, or how to become happy years. you were dazzling good, you know about it

and fell in love and dreamed was extraordinary you come to a picture where one of the heroines, tatyana ivanovna pelter. very not young already completely ugly, how did she accept you? she's very good. there's nothing at all, even that, they even talk about it, the only thing they played when they played, they played cards at night. they had such fun they filmed all day and then played at night. they didn’t let me go there, but they didn’t let young people go there at all, because they considered us unworthy, because it was a serious game for money, they played for money. yes came not slept, slept fresh cucumbers. so you can imagine, laughed amused, but unrealistic. well, in general, they accepted you obs , they didn’t immediately accept you, by the way, uh, abdulov and farad didn’t accept you in the first second, but they played a little bit in such a little bit, because

they didn’t want to try it on. well, they heard they were famous womanizers and, of course, they wanted to get this from a bloom that was not for them. okay, now i have a pen. well, of course, it was n’t, no, they just didn’t show it there, because at that time there was a personal life, but men so arranged. it was. it was such a good time. farewell, hanging everyone loved each other. hoho. she brought her. well, you are historians, well, i listened. what time yes? and what a fate was very similar, by the way, they are with fain dahlia raevsky, true girlfriends. yes, there were girlfriends of an iron character. in general, which gives the descent of no age practically. yes, both, very ugly , lonely, childless, but sharply characteristic and despite this they could play the same

roles, yes, they were friends or not friends, which 1904 is the year of birth of tatyana ivanovna and the father, who was a famous actor soviet ivan pelta, a german, a nobleman, generally hereditary later, who i remember almost to the currency of luxury, and pedigrees are published regularly . but the most important thing i wanted to say is the traditions of excellent theater. i am not a theater historian, because such a theater is korshi. i know the twenties, uh, which continue the traditions of the russian space theater, and she didn’t have so many incomprehensible things , her father taught her father and the twenties - these are the times that, in general, when it was still here this is a bunch between a blumetalm. yes, the legendary actress, perhaps, who today not everyone knows this name, but, but she soaked it all up from her. she was very much guided by her, let's look at her some kind of tomarin.