and then it's easter joy. it enters quieter shores, because even the bright paschal joy should not distract from the celebration of the great mystery of the eucharist. this easter mood has become such a general background. well, a bright week awaits you and me. the feast of the holy women of the peace-bearer awaits. this is the thirtieth of april , such a day when we feel christian women, but we leave the temple with a blessing, a bright easter night in the temple. christ the savior ends. and for his love for a person, not for any other

reason, not for the sake of any other need, the lord descended to earth, gave people his divine teaching. accepted suffering. died. he was buried on the cross for 3 days. screw he pulled us out of the omnipotence of hell, opened the way to blissful eternity. that's leaving the temple. let's save in our hearts the bright, paschal grace and the spark of divine love christ is risen.

today we are gathering our thoughts and feelings on the occasion of the great christian holiday. christ is risen gathered thoughts with feelings with emotions. a boris nikolaevich lyubimov theater vet culturologist philosopher, with your permission, the father of pavel the giants. i'm vladimir legoyda, let's talk about joy. although i don't know, uh. is it necessary to say on easter boris nikolaevich only christ is risen. i wanted to start with what is usually called the personal dimension. yes, but, if we talk about this most personal dimension, here is easter for you - this is what borisovich well, this is divine fun, divine fun. yes class, but divine fun. it

doesn't say that it's a pasca. well it could would tell her yes, because well of everything that is in life. what could be called divine fun is the most divine and the most fun. this, of course, is a pass. you feel this special, you know, when it happens, uh, early easter well, as comparative, as this year, when the annunciation is very close well, the entrance of the lord is forever there for a week, uh, and here, on the one hand, it’s like the whole earthly life of christ from the annunciation . here is the good news, and it flies by in a short period of time. that's all right up to the entrance lord to absolute triumph. uh , the savior of his earthly life, and the highest country and the week where everything is k. uh, just go to hell. eh, a catastrophe, if the apostles do not believe that this is something that can

change everything in this life, they have lost everything and such a rise and combination of earthly and divine life of eternal salvation. well, of course, this is it. uh, you don't know father sergei bulgakov's sermon. one three psychoses are called the annunciation entrance. and uh easter here for me is to say so, such a concentration of life, father understood, and for you oh you know for me holy saturday just begins, when they walked around the church in a procession around the church, they drove everyone out of it, the fundamental such installation is to drive everyone out of the church, put out all the lamps, all the candles, so that the temple inside resembles a dark coffin of graves. yeah, then we close the gates, the doors of the temple, sometimes even eat some kind of seal or there is a lock, so that it is symbolic and now they stop singing. any pre-easter hymns and this silence

when we are waiting for midnight, here in this silence, and suddenly it is felt that the divine and material christ and human it suddenly, you know, at some point , these invisible ones are intertwined, but we feel and don’t know with our whole body with our whole organism, some kind of spiritual, or something, vibrations, something like that. here's some shaking right there. yes, that's playing, the sun, as we say at easter. yes , but this is never the same on any other day . it doesn't happen again. and even now, if we compare, for example, there are liturgies at the top, mount athos. it would seem that they serve there at dawn. well , in general, it’s just, of course, yes, easter is still completely different. and you know, here er, the abolition of oneself and some kind of inner silence. and what about the result? well we went down. we prayed as much as we could, we did what we had the strength to do. and

after that, you have to be able to let go of everything and allow god to be from allowing god to do what only he can do and he does it every time. and this one, he does not want to become me, just not an exclamation, but some kind of screaming. yes, christ is risen, it first goes into the void, you don’t feel it. you seem to be talking right now and nothing is distracted, but then here with each time it gains gains gains. and now everything has gone, this wave is blowing you away, you no longer understand what is happening, where is it happening? how is it either there, or it is on the ground. for me, easter is, first of all, you want a powerful dense interweaving of the completely human and completely divine, that is, god shows how glorious he is, because we will try to gather our thoughts today. yes, but in the meanings of easter, here are the paschal troparion and christ is risen from the dead by death

, trampling down death and living in the tombs bestowing. here we repeat it, and in this here, in fact, the quintessence of meaning. yes, what is happening, what we are celebrating, but, perhaps, we need to talk about it all the same. that's what we celebrate in this, what the church celebrates on this day the church celebrates, and the victory of christ with his death over the eternal enemy of human life is death, as a dead end of death, as the cessation of both one's life and hmm life in general in the broadest sense of the word , if all christianity is reduced to some minimal formula, it will consist of three words death death by truth. and there christ is risen, right? or from two sides, death is a correction, that is , the resurrection by the resurrection of christ, he breaks through an absolutely incredible prospect for the life of mankind. and uh, i want to say that word. i will say, and he, as it were,

disinfects death. here is death. it remains in life people, as they died , they die, but now what is it then, but now this death is not terrible, because people do not go to hell. people go to god, people go to the saints, in whom they are already working. this is the beginning of a new life which we receive in baptism, which we reinforce in the sacraments of communion, which we constantly feed in one way or another throughout a person’s life in the church , and thus a person begins to bear this leaven of new life for himself. yes, the kingdom. god says christ is within you, it is within you, it is not from external circumstances. oh, not in the problems or the resolution of these problems , nor in the relationship or the destruction of these relationships, it is that you either have this light here or not. you know , i recently learned an absolutely amazing thing. ah, than

the slavic word resurrection a is very radical. why is it different from all other words in all ancient languages, even in latin , even greek, all minsk languages, i’m very afraid of linguistics, there’s nothing like that here , there’s nothing here, everything is very simple, e, in ancient languages ​​sunday is anesthesia, right? or she in general, that is, the transition from gonza to the position of a vertical, that is, she died. he lays down and then bam he gets up. do you know what root from which root we have the word sunday? yes, yes, quack it means to knock out a spark. that there is a completely different meaning. and imagine, that is, sunday - this is about the fact that christ is risen, and he knocked out this spark of eternal life, which is now transmitted through faith to all those who accept it. here, in fact, the most important thing that christ did is that it is difficult to realize tangibility. how do you think it is more difficult to realize uh than to feel, of course. well, because

it's always harder than it feels. eh, emotionally. but uh, it comes with age, of course with age, because from childhood age is in youth. so you understand with your mind that yes, death will. eh, a generation is leaving somewhere, there are grandfathers and grandmothers. eh, closer closer to you. she would back off. uh, i am the circumstances of life, so to speak, the last years, uh, and age and illness. e. to collect in our prayer book everything that is connected with the theme of death, no matter how it is called impudent death. we are her , er, really, so to speak. she is monstrous, because if there is nothing behind this, then it is terrible for the person who dies and for those who part with him, if god grows, yes, as the hero of the famous eugene said. is there it turns out that there is eternal life, then this is

a completely different image, and what i'm afraid to say, it would have been so impudent, but every year i get closer and sharper. i felt, and already began to realize pasca i was less and less afraid, then impudent death is a transition. this is the transition from this life with all the difficulties and grief, and every year we uh often say our not easy time our difficult time our difficult time, when yes , when it was easy, it turns different of its own, so to speak, well, i i'm just looking at the history of russia in the 20th century. not only russia of any country, even italy, even spain and in 1923 it was easier for people, and in the thirty- third year it was easier about forty. the third did not say fifty, the third already i remember of course. no, they happen a little like that.

illusions that well, now everything will be very good and we will easily make the right decisions, we will write down, we will indicate that, that, no, sooner or later every generation passes. these stages go to someone unfortunate, there 20-30 years old someone rises there at 70 years old. in the will, personal failures, public and so on. uh, for athletes inability to perform for e. it is impossible for a dancer to dance for a musician. the hands are no longer the same. well, and so on and so on. everyone has their own profession and therefore it approaches you. this is a brazen death, and christ and uh, conquer it. it's so inspiring. eh, you. ah, it really should be inspiring. but look what an interesting thing, because e is the theme of death. it is, in principle, central to any religion. well, because actually man is the only creature that is aware of its finiteness. yes, and therefore the main question of religion - this is not

question. is there a god, is there or is there or something else is this question. what is death? yes, and how to defeat it, and therefore, one way or another, all religions were religions known to us. in this advanced religions, as they sometimes say, yes, they do. what is the uniqueness of the christian approach here in god's incarnation, of course, yes. to fight death. maybe only the one whom she, in principle, cannot possess, because there is nothing more contrary to divine nature than dying and death as such. and that's what happens on the cross. this is what we live in the days of holy week. and this, of course, is evidence. well, overwhelming. eh, they can't. we understand this degree of divine love, what god is ready to go to so that we live, it always with me in the nativity of christ, as it were, pierced there the thought that what distinguishes his birth from ours

, we are born to live, and god becomes man so that we can kill him. and now, when you look at all this from such an angle there. yes, indeed it is, of course, something incredible, you know, this is also needs an explanation. it seems to me, although today, probably, if desired, it is easy to find some literate texts there. read yes, why, but here's how it might look through the eyes of the layman? now boxing has become a man . he was killed, of course, on sunday, because he is god at the frame, now everyone is saved. yes, that is, we still can’t get along, and in this our conversation about not talking about here. eh, actually the fall. yes , why why, that is, there is no type of death in the world created by god, there is no death, and it appears as something, like this universal catastrophe. yes, once again let's say that the story of adam and eve or the story of adam and the biblical is the story of the life of one family. something was eaten and removed, yes, but the fact that

some kind of universal catastrophe is happening, and its consequences, a person becomes physically mortal. yes, and he is enslaved by sin. he cannot help but sin. and all the religions of mankind are attempts to get out of this state. yes, israel we are gone, but it's time to get away from melancholy. culture, everything grows. yes, in paradise lost, literature, music, painting, because we're trying to get back. well cultures. means do not work. they would need god himself, yes, yes, here in your question there is already a large part of the answer. oh, the fathers have a perfectly clear form. and what, why does god come to earth, because it was necessary for humanity to be illuminated by a deity. that's human nature. she turned out to be so m-m, having lost contact with god, she is not able to pull herself out by her hair. like that famous hero. yes , it took powerful external support, but

the support is not instructive, not in the form of some correct laws or even some kind of moral life, red life, no magical objects there. no stones or anything else needed. something excuse me to pour into its human nature in some sense. to ferment it so that what it has become is radically different in quality, different from the entire previous generation of people who have fallen away from god, and in fact, this is christ and this is the quality of the new life of the risen christ, this is what we partake of for the sake of which we eat the body and blood christ's is what is in us a guarantee of this new eternal life, that is, the very spark of immortality, which, uh, christ's resurrection carved. well, still. i think it's worth saying that about the word easter itself. yes, this greek proper greek

word is a translation of the hebrew word, yes, which means to pass by. and here, perhaps, not everyone will immediately recognize the connection of easter with the famous song led my people. go. yes , because it's actually new. yes, yes, let's clarify. what if, uh, it means a new one not a very correct word, but the old testament passover was also connected. eh, this is with the exodus of the jews from egypt with the tenth egyptian plague, yes, when the lord struck all the firstborn, e in the house, e, means in the egyptian land, except for the houses. uh, the jews, where the doorposts were marked and the angel passed by, and here is the root of this verb to pass by the passes, in my opinion, yes, in the hebrew sugars, he actually and, uh, gave us the word easter, that is, just like an angel , once passed by and did not strike the firstborn in the same way now death does not strike. us

moreover, you know, everything is even more interesting here with the resurrection of christ, death not only ceases to be a terrible and destructive enemy, against which you must rest in any case. and you said very well, impudent death. here's to you on the resurrection of christ made this impudent death moreover hmm that in the church. death, she is tamed, there are wonderful words in the memorial service, a grave sob, a creative song hallelujah, yes, these are literally these cheats there are five words, but if you look at it from the point of view of the psychotherapy of grief there, it’s all the program is immediately set out tombstone sobbing, creating a song. hallelujah, there must be a funeral sob, there must be work to process this grief, to melt grief, and thanksgiving to god must be manifested for everything that happens, including, among other things , the presence of this death in life.

and this, probably, is that in no religion we will find this that allows us, well , somehow, in a completely different way, to treat death in general, stop being afraid of it, moreover, why i say, she became attracted to the church death in expanded format. she her everywhere includes everywhere, as if it takes away. excuse me. maybe today is a bright, of course, a beautiful day, but i have an image. uh, just showed up. e. well, excuse me. you know what mouse glue is , what mouse glue is, when they spread the glue and when the mouse comes up there, and they put a piece of something tasty in the middle in the middle. she really wants to eat and one paw hop, and immediately starts to stick. and the more it twitches, the more it gets tangled up and smart rats die. what are they doing? they bring sand. and they fill a path with this sand, so this

image is for what we all want, how these mice stick for pleasure. naturally, god put in us a desire for pleasure. but it's a pleasure for us. this is after the fall. this is the same sticky consistency in which we, as soon as we touch it, we immediately stick to it. and what did christ do, he waking up this path for us. he made it possible for us to be in the space of this pleasure. and that this sand is death, we can let death into any area of ​​​​our life any of our business. what kind of death, any self-restraint is also the death of any fast - this is any death, any prayer that you give your time to god, any sacrifice - these are also all these or those derivatives of death, which is tamed, which is accustomed. yes, through does not own. she no longer owns you ceases to be. it becomes a tool

that you practice and thanks to which you become different. but look from the image in and from the cultural images. in culture culture boris nikolayevich but religion determines culture in many ways. yes, that's the easter spirit of christianity, after all, we are correct about the easter culture. if we don’t say it like that, it’s still less common than about christmas. here we once had a conversation with pavlov who took part in christmas here. yes, we had a podcast on this topic, and then we said that somehow it was christmas. well, it is clear that god was incarnated. he came in earthly life. and then, the lord is risen. and it seems like the vector is directed from the space of culture. yes, there is eternity, as philosophers would say, a breakthrough to the transcendent. yes transcendent, probably, because transcendent that it would not be so to say, but all the same, this easter culture in russian culture, in general in world culture, how much is it felt? well, of course, uh, maybe, really, christmas is closer to us and babies understand. we

have all been motherhood fatherhood. here is the increase. we seem to understand, but we are not like that, but something like that, it was like us. but what is happening anyway? what is a cross? and what is uh anyway? uh before that, god why did you somehow leave me. a this is all the same, too, everything e passes. it's like we don't really know. bye bye. it's not a front until it's a cancer ward until it 's uh, so to speak, uh someone close to you dies. e in hand. so, when you go through this one way or another, it becomes closer to you, but still you are more uh , you contemplate, you understand the mind than you yourself felt, unlike uh, let's say u christmas well, i still remember uh, a wonderful poem. uh, pasternak on strastnaya, and

now this death can be carried by the spring bow that just clears up death will be possible. fight the resurrection by force, by the way, my father told him that we should write a poem about easter. he somehow got away from this and said that now, how would he write everything about it already in that gospel cycle that he has there is. here is the christmas star , there is no easter there, but it is precisely because the rumor of spring has swept through, because we have not personally experienced this yet in prayer in those images that the church offers. yes , of course, it's all of us in one way or another. uh, to be, ah, but i understand that to you need to prepare yourself for this and understand that what really happens is that christ created it. e, of course, rebirth, in general, and of the whole world, because

after the fall, after all, death, impudent death, the world burst in. uh, let's say the nature of plants. e trees that wither animals that began to eat each other, i always think, here's a wonderful thing to say. i really love the time there, 5:00 pm summer, and you are sitting, say, in the country house on the terrace of seagulls, everything is wonderful, peace in the family, everything is fine, one mosquito arrived, one camera, and paradise bliss is over. and then there's the game in order to say rock and roll today, or is it the belarusian folk form. it was shocking enough for the soviet stage. while the coach of some kind of football team, we selected the players. he also lost to the peasants

as a vocalist. why are there no women in your team fourth grade where to cut in the house? vladimir mulyavin pesnyary tomorrow at the first today we gathered our thoughts about the great easter holiday boris nikolaevich lyubimov goalkeeper pavel giants. i am vladimir legoyda. we continue our conversation. after all, there are traditions , not only of the christmas story, but also of the easter one, when i thought about our conversation, i remembered this brahamot and garasik and gerasik,

and i’m not up to andreev yes, actually, what is easter in our life? we really experience this. we do not know what is there, but we do not know the apostle paul says, that eye has not seen and ear has not heard what the lord has prepared for those who love him. here is the only phrase in the entire bible yes, which tells us there, what could be there, but we are on the ground and this is a bergamot policeman, yes, which is a gendarme yes, which no one likes to be afraid of, and this one, as we would say today, is a homeless keraska, and he is suddenly under the influence of the fact that this is easter night takes bergamot, takes this gerasica to spit. yes, and when the wife of the beard calls him by his patronymic. andrey starts to sob. yes, for the first time in his life he was named. well, this is a wonderful easter story. why do you know? i really like in this story, uh, how does the wife of bergamot behave? it's just the same. this is the most vivid

evidence of the effectiveness of the easter sunday, that is, god comes to humanity. and these are all our conditional tensions between different, so to speak , social strata, where the clean is unclean, the dirty is dirty. what is embarrassing. listen, god died and rose again for us, that you cannot feed this bum and call him by his patronymic. that is, it’s so, naturally, it wasn’t played out there, because she didn’t try to convince him there or play some role. no it was perfect from within. it seems to me that this spark sunday is right here breaking through. are you afraid you know. i want to return to your most important thought. it seems to me that harmony is broken by the fall. yes, and easter brings us back to this, but here we have it. i just know uh hmm that you love very much dog, yes and cats and father file. we are known. luke.

yes, this is also someone good and said that animals are some kind of reminder. yes , shards of the shelf, right? yes, fragments, of course, for me it is absolutely. eh, so these are relationships. i am very sorry that i did not succeed with the horse. so friendship, er, in the childhood of sciences, dostoevsky wrote that any russian boy dreams of a horse. still , there somehow i had one meeting with a horse in the mountains of the caucasus. well, it was one of a kind. e case, and previously even a foal. i got hit by a hoof pretty hard, so, most likely, i could not talk to you, but i really didn’t have a quarrel with dogs, but love and friendship for real, so to speak, such and say, her cats are also a cat there was, the only case , for 15 long years, she was at our house and i always understand

that now what i will say is such, uh, such a sentimental breed for deakins, but really i left, when they let me go to the army from the army. yes, i went into the army and understood that i would not see her, so to speak, and did not even ask in letters, but came on a business trip. eh, the cat pulled me up, so to speak. she was already lying on a chair and did not get up. she waited, stretched, meowed, and the next day she died. well, as if, of course, someone he will say, well, the case is a coincidence, a coincidence, well, as he wrote, again a philosophical point in the case, an atheistic pseudonym is a miracle, so i, and uh, perceive it as a miracle, of course, it really is. it's that uh hmm uh, as dostoevsky wrote that a laughing child is better than israel's human relationship with animals. this is also, of course, the best, israel, so it was a coincidence, and so i believe it should be. uh, after

saying so, well, everyone in common sunday in paradise, by the way, to say exactly, therefore, maybe, again, not everyone, maybe they know that here the famous bears there are seraphim of sarov and the bear a sergius of radonezh yes, with whom i am there, our saints reverends are often portrayed, this is also, and confirmation that holiness, like the return of yes to its original state, overcomes this discord. why is our strife with those animals that we call wild, it is connected with that terrible fall into sin, and in holiness, when a person gathers whole, correctly i say, yes, very interesting. ryan chrysostom has an idea, he writes what a creature, when he saw that a person had fallen away from thank god she turned away and refused to acknowledge him as her master any longer. that is, here is a man, as if naked , appeared in him in the first place. only his carnal his material creatures. all creation, well, about everything, of course, creation is everything, yes, the whole

animal world. he said the same as we are, this is, of course, a radiance. ah, the light of the resurrection. well, it turns out holiness, yes, here is holiness, it returns to man the power over nature, which does not destroy. and it’s very interesting that the monasteries, in a certain sense, they were such mm space. and where it could be observed with your own eyes to this day, and here the point is not at all in some kind of agricultural technology, but in the fact that when a person relates to the earth, with reverence with love without pagan reading, there worship he understands that the earth and earth. are you that this is also a gift of god, this is also such a thing, but a spiritual substance. it's not just matter , it's something deeply symbolic that needs to be interacted with. you know, i'm sorry. i

love to dig in the ground. yes and here he is digging the ground. do you know when is now in the spring, when the earth is already warm. here you go out and now you throw seeds of some green manure there, so you know, green manure plants are such plants that enrich the soil. yes it is. it's just the feeling you're doing the right thing at the right place at the right time. it's kind of straight. here it is, as if from inside there is you coming out. and you understand that it is very correct that a person must be on earth, a person must learn to interact with all this commodity space. he should not sit around the clock in these phones. there in social networks and podcasts. he should make a specific statement that i do not agree. can i have two phones? i'm telling you, not all the time, that's in all the clues. and of course, easter week. she's always here,

well at least the church. it's the weekend, so there's a whole week ahead of us. and you are such a service every day. well, the believer becomes communion every day at every easter service every day. procession every day. here it is, and hmm, the maximum concentration of joy, it, of course, cannot be compared with any other personal or public holidays, because here there is some kind of powerful resonance between the fact that we, with our small, modest forces, like pathetic sparrows, have done something there. and here is the flow of divine grace. just covered it gushed and whatever the name of the golden one says in the word, come all the fasting not fasting good bad there pious stupid there. let's all come here. that's all, the path is prepared. agnes is on the table. all all, come well, the church is generally the only place where a accepts everyone. i i remember when a book came out. well, in general

, some critical book about christianity was published, and one of the modern publicists wrote that the book was stupid, therefore. in general, those who, uh, whom, she will convince. this is in general, fools, the church does not need fools, and therefore it is not scary. and then i was indignant and even entered, so to speak, into a public debate with him and said that fools are not needed. at the institute. there do not know in government. the church needs everything for easter as well . yes, we are talking about this, we testify, that is, of course, we are not only at easter, but, uh, here is the only place, it seems to me, that accepts everyone and there is no qualification, in general there is none for our people, for the russian people. the concept of a fool in the village of ivan the fool is everything oh, what simple topics they are, and then a person never exists. eh, that's just a fool, but there is a wonderful place of dostoevsky's demons. now i will not quote him very accurately there, in my opinion, cartridge physics says that it is there, and stepanovich peppers says that i am a fool. and i'll just repeat friday up, i'm not his to you yes, that's it

this is very important, because a person can be, uh, and in this and uh, the complexity of human nature, i am a scoundrel. there, too, repeat tuesday. fridays are very rare for even the most terrible villain to act evil 7 days a week, and this is both a horror and a human mystery that he can, indeed, behave vilely. uh, six days a week or even 29 days a month, and on the thirtieth day, it becomes possible to do an act of a saint even or at least not be such a scoundrel and a fool as he is was 20 days, uh a month, and this is the complex human nature, with which , including, of course, uh, they fight and overcome it and win and call us, wins christianity. so good with you, dear friends on easter night. i actually. here i am finishing.