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in 10 years, in 20, the trend will someday end and it has a reason, in fact, a person will also run out, and especially in russia, the largest country in the world. well, right, well, it’s a sin to huddle in some sixty-fifth floor in some kind of capsule apartment, if you have the opportunity, to feel this will every day, and all these conversations, that something is medicine, there is education for the poor . eh, it doesn't really exist. i mean figuratively no figuratively. naturally. in the sense that there is money then everyone says no, no, figuratively. but how is this problem not there? how to teach children? how to treat? firstly, as if with cottage cheese, well, firstly, there is a school near me, the second one can be done at school. third. if online, then there are millions of different options for how this problem is solved. okay then. tell me one more thing, when today many of the pain say that
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the russian village is dying. this is what you are talking about, this is some kind of hope for the revival of that russian village or not twice in the same river to come in. here's how to connect these two themes. that russian village, which before 1861 or before the stolypin reforms or after the stolypin flu or collective farms unusual breakfasts, but that village, well, firstly, when people lived on earth, yes, and when is this one of the definitions of a grove? yes, this is a forest with mowed undergrowth. it's me felix uh, razumovsky said. he says, because they mow here , they stopped mowing there, i don’t know in belarus yes , and i say that she is talking, you are talking seriously. here they must go out and mow. he says, yes, in this sense, maybe maybe, i don’t know how much , i understand, i agree with boris’s basic idea that it should be, uh, freedom of choice and happiness, that is, expel everyone uh, that means with braids and force them to mow. uh, it means in
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time free from the main work, it means, as they sent employees of research institutes to vegetable warehouses , this is not necessary and it will not and will not work. yes, this is a return, that is, a return to there to the village of the thirties and fifties. that's definitely not necessary. yes , the way it used to be. it seems to me that if we talk about a dream, then it was it would be great if in one form or another, but hmm i think that it is possible that we were returning to some stolypin ideas related to individualization to a greater extent, which means the economy, like that, like the sapetsk reform of power, therefore, i think that it will be like some kind of new one, it is not even necessary to use this word village. yes , because now the village. this is something, here, the associated word farm farming farming, why life is life, uh, rural life is the life of the province land of ownership land of use, that might be such bureaucratic slightly glory yes yes
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own land. this is how i think it is . so i see, and i would even say e, here is vladimir solovyov, a cat who was a philosopher sergeevich from the beginning of the 20th century. sergeevich , yes, yes, he said what progress is. progress is when you take the past and carry it into the future. here, as it were, the village of the future. it will, of course, somehow grow out of the past. but she certainly won't be in the village of the past. that is, it is, in principle, the other another already reality, which in itself combine some completely, well, which we understand for this thing, some partial some urban traditions, there will be. well, we 're not going back to some revolutionary or soviet village well. yes, it will be some new one, and the main thing is that we can build it. that is, we can live in such a new village, we will do it for ourselves. that is, we will pass our creativity through the sea, harmonize our country on our earth. it seems to me, it seems to me, this is some kind of joint. creativity
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of the three subjects, e, means relationships, and with one side of the man, well people, yes, and here we are we are promoting. here boris just did a great job in his life and work, and people find it interesting. it actually takes polls. i've seen a poll that up to 670% of people are talking about when they're asked a question. are you ready under certain circumstances to leave ready. that is, to leave from the side of the earth, but to go to the earth, to come to the earth, to arrive, and to come to the earth, which means that the second subject is hmm philosophers, who somehow, maybe, as they should have given him some did not have time touch. yes, this is a state that nevertheless sets certain trends, as it were, forms and publishes certain conditions. here, of course, the state should. well, if now the state considers it possible to build these, uh, residential complexes of forty five-story buildings, yes, then they appear. if you are somewhere a little bit in the other direction. an extended thought is that the road is
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the infrastructure of education, as i say, but elementary school or even, and high school is quite capable of doing this today, including some remote things, like yours vladimir sergeevich solovyov was a wonderful philosopher through the mouth, and today we talked with the philosophers, farmers boris akimov and kuzmenkov. i am vladimir berry. we gathered our thoughts about the land further with all the stops for all the friends. thank you. hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shkapper is a podcast of space stories. today we have an unusual holiday special edition of the podcast dedicated to the international cosmonautics day, so today i am visiting. my colleague friend
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pilot cosmonaut hero of russia alexander misyurkin. by the way, this is not our first space trip with you. hi anton , that's right. but we did not meet on the day of cosmonautics or next to the day of cosmonautics in space. yes, now we have met, so, probably, let's first congratulate everyone on cosmonautics day. friends from the bottom of my heart i congratulate you on the next anniversary of the day, the cosmonautics of the flight of yuri alekseevich gagarin, he then united all people around the earth with his flight. we all, probably, were at some point united in the spirit of this flight, and i really wish that today remembering the day of cosmonautics. we tried again to be closer to each other. it seems that not so long ago we flew together. this was your second space flight. it was very interesting we played badminton. we celebrated birthdays. new year's eve prepared olivier in space for the first time. and for me it
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was also another flight, which i remember completely especially, of course, our spacewalk. how are you remember, we weren't going to make any records. we have been preparing for it for a long time on earth. and so it happened. why, after 6 hours of work, in my opinion, yes, we had to return and continue our work for another 2 hours. and thanks to this, 6s works at the station today. this is a new type of russian communication and in better quality than even our colleagues. we can video every day. so when i was just with a group of filmmakers, every morning, i had a good connection with the soup, we could discuss these working moments. sasha, how do you like this flight. the first thing i have to say is that this is our new year's legal day off, otherwise they will misunderstand us. first ever humanity is a game sport in space. it was badminton. and thank you for
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supporting me in this our space olivier with you, he is the most space in my life, because not only was he in orbit. it was the first time in my life in general, and most importantly, we passed. here is the scythe with all its crew. remember, then all the americans liked it, they asked us to wait for friday and so on. and the way out is, of course, yes. this is serious work. and there would be more such work, i would very much like to do it more and badminton was not just played there. yes, they dabbled, rackets were officially placed there. we have prepared. uh, a first , we prepared japanese yes but, unfortunately, we never removed one computer and after our filming it turned out that we broke one of the new computers and well our friend e marker, rest. he took it upon himself to say that it was he who broke him, and i don’t know how dearly our game of badminton cost him. well, they were. we
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specially filmed frames for the video, because at that time on the ground in kazan there was universiade universiade tournament. yes, bombing and now i can be proud that i have a gold medal at home. that's right out of that kit, because us. uh, those who took part in this game on board were awarded gold. i suggest. we have a small this video to watch. remember how it was.
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by the way, the rackets remained on board, the guys can now play under the concrete no. i think that all these famous rackets, of course, are now a relic, of course, a museum. maybe home alone huh? yes, yes, yes, the second time we we met you when you brought this amazing, in my opinion, crew at once two tourists, we have never had such a thing before, two japanese, two billionaires, a millionaire. as far as i understood? eh, i don’t know, they were surprised at everything there, they were so funny in life, they said such things. these are very polite people. do you remember their reaction e, when did you start, when did you get to the station? you still talked to them for more than 70 years, helped them
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tell everything, well, as it were, you protected them. uh, i think that was your biggest challenge. except that, of course, prepare the ship to return. well, yes, and so that they do not break the station. yes, but we all followed this, yes, because we didn’t treat ourselves for this. you know, i remind you that firstly, i somehow listened to the feedback from previous crews when they were preparing, and before that, let's say representatives of various other cultural countries, for a short flight, and i was a little worried, of course, about how they will refer to the station. yes, how neatly thrifty, but maybe this is precisely the japanese mentality. well, i don’t know about you, remember, i, for example, i am absolutely certain that they treated everything with all sorts of maximum accuracy and care. once our lens took it and forgot to hang it. in the same place where i took it, and i, apparently, was tired. i told him something yoza. well, i took it in one place. put it there, well, that's how it should be
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in general at the station. naturally, yes, but i mean that i was apparently tired and he felt the notes of my emotional upset, and then he told me so in the evening, and with sasha i understand how hard it is for you. please forgive me for this. you started there although it was actually a trifle, and before it was much more not there with them, connected to others to do hara-kiri, or you forgave him, yes, and after parsing they are like that, and we tried very hard to treat the russian segment with care, well, in general, to the station and uh, in all the time we've been using the toilet , we've never had any situation prepared on the ground. oh yes, well, that's to the fact that they were very neat. i am very grateful to them for this. yes, of course it was different from our cinematic group. yeah got hit in filming. if you need to prepare. uh, some module to them, at his own discretion, removed everything that he wanted, promised to return everything back and then people that they didn’t return anything special, because he had to deal with another module the next day. uh, the only thing he said guys.
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if you don’t find something, the earth will be there too. it will turn on to pray and everything is on us, but we were even given 3 days to sing, in my opinion, so that we could return something back. and so we walked straight , looked from left to right, drilled everything, uh base. data where what thing should lie? well, then, anyway, they couldn’t either find something, or vice versa, they found it, or for a long time. yes, after them sasha, i know that you are very interested in the future of the future of the earth of space, let's talk a little about it. yes, come on, and the colonization of e new planet. now. naturally. uh, the first thing is that we have the moon further mars, this is our next projects, these are space programs, your leading space powers are uniting for the development of e, not only pilotin, astronautics in general in this direction. day after day , anxiety, anxiety, and with them insomnia, habitual
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lunar program as partners, that the chinese are flying there. ah, but we are unfortunately not flying there yet, and for me the biggest disappointment or not disappointment is the frustration of understanding the fact that as civilization grows , in a sense, the scale increases. here. uh, while i lived in one small town. yes and i went through several districts of my school. i had a grid of coordinates. here , yours, not yours, yes, you moved to another city. there is a university, flying schools. any person from your city is the most dear to you , regardless of where he lives in the lands. yes, he earth moved you to houston to train there and met you heard russian speech in a supermarket - this is the person closest to you. here came out. you are outside the atmosphere. there is no one for you, like, not closer. how homo sapiens like you, it seems to me that
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there is a certain study of the law of nature in this, if civilization comes out. here we are technologically ahead of our mental development and i am not talking about this alone. isaac asimov, for example, he said that the saddest thing today is that the development of science is going much earlier than the mental development of society. yes, and what will happen if the society has not yet matured mentally, but has already gained access to some advanced technologies. we understand that it is very dangerous here in this difficulty. and where to technology development will move, and it is clear that we are all actively looking for exoplanets today. and that is, we continue to expand, that is, from the ground. now every earth is not us, uh, native independence, so uh. well, i at least believe that i have not seen always say it's honest. i have not seen any aliens flying for those who
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are now commenting on your words. well, yes, you can’t, but some papers were signed there, right? well, i definitely believe that we cannot be one in this boundless cosmos of the universe. yes, there is more 5,000 exoplanets, yes, that revolve around each luminary, that is, the stars in the sky, have already been discovered, for sure. there are those who are there. yes, in the same orbit as well, i think so, like the earth, very so comfortable where, of course, you are absolutely right to even be born. here is the radius. ah, depending on the intensity of the star. and the radius where the planet could be. eh, and where is the water, if it is there, is in three states of aggregation. this is called the benefit of life. let's take a different look at how changed man's ideas about the world itself . at first it was believed that it was a flat earth, then that it was round in the center of the world. naturally. we all need to be in the center. that's when we decided. okay okay, so be it. there is not a single smart person there. they burned it down and decided that we are still
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one of the planets, the sun, near the sun, not in the center of the whole world, but for a long time they believed that there are no other planets on one simple basis, we don’t see them, which means they don’t exist. yes, yes, and that's only at the end of the last millennium. more exoplanets have been found. 'cause it's just a question statistics, and all we need is a lot, well, we want our own kind, if for our lives, but it’s clear that colonization will be right. that's colonization. well, how would it be, of course, it's still too, to put it mildly , too ambitious, yes, but the fact that there are planets, approaches that are suitable for our life is biological - this is 100%. that is, a person. it will be able to live and develop only to fly when we can do it there, yes, and even under the degree of similarity. uh, the index of earthlikeness is already there today, but according to if compare the mass according to the criteria, and the planets, its size and position in this belt of life according to
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these two criteria. there is a planet with an earth index, like 0.95. you me something almost like the earth, and then it remains that there was water, an oxygen atmosphere and a magnetic field only when you have a sample of only 100,000 100 million stars in our galaxy. yes, and the galaxy 100 billion 100 billion stars and 100 billion galaxies. you realize that in this sample, well, there's guaranteed to be planets like that when it's uh, when we get to them. yes well, it’s even hard at least uh , progress is taking huge strides, progress is going on the 20th century showed how everything has stepped before i never thought about it, but it turns out that we all live according to exponential laws, that is, non-linearly. everything changes, and exponentially and one thing, when you know about it, they talk about technology, that they develop there exponentially, that is, almost exponentially. and if you look at us people, here is life on earth, it originated 4 billion years
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ago, the biological 4 billion years ago was rewound. just 100,000 years ago people appeared. in 1800 there were a billion of us in 1900 billion-600 in 2000 there are 7 billion . here it is this exponent for a long, long, long time there and here it shoots and this is like a general law of nature and we are just one of the elements that lives according to this exponent. well, when we move to a new house. so let's call it to a new planet. you know, i honestly think that, uh, we're getting to the point of living with ourselves. until then, we'll live. i think until another more important point. but in order to go there , we need to go through it. do you know how, if to draw an analogy, there is a theory of black and white holes, why do you fly into a black hole and hop in another place in the universe a white hole flew out, here
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we have a more serious challenge facing us. we've gotten to the point where technology is growing with this exponential growth of everything in life. the number of people is growing, and the problem is growing, their significance, their number, and the most important task for humanity. in my opinion. today is to overcome this point of exponential collection of all crises. if we overcome it, that's when we are waiting for unprecedented, simply fantastic life of mankind, but the great chances that we will not overcome it. but irwin corwin, for example, and a hollywood actor back in the last century said that if we do not hurry to change direction. then we run the risk of arriving where the damn thing comes from, that is, when cellular biological life, and while we are clearly working according to this plan, that is, we still need to concentrate on our land, percent ecology is 100%. well, in particular, and according to
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the consolidated opinion, most climatologists, if in the next 12 years, we do not if we can keep warming at the level of one and a half degrees, then global climate catastrophes. on earth will not be disgusting. we emit 40 billion tons of carbon dioxide. in a year this is as much as the whole of africa, plus another third of africa, would also absorb in a year. can you imagine how much we throw away and we survive a bunch of animals from this biosphere. we will have problems, most likely with the availability of available fresh water. we are talking about humanity in general. i don't take all others. there are geopolitical problems technological problems in the form of artificial intelligence. what to do with him? and how should we help just
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to cope with this disease of pollution of the planet, the destruction of our home , the first question and many people believe that artificial intelligence. it will never become as smart as a person and is now abbreviated as da arto-phishings, and other scientists believe that agi art fish general intelligence, comparable to a person. appear already there, someone says, the coming decades, many scientists agree to the conclusion that he will appear in the middle of this century, the question is, even before he appeared. in whose hands will these neural networks be used. well, they themselves are probably such a vivid example, uh, already used from such weapons, you can probably say cybernetic. we remember all the destruction of centrifuges in iran. yes, when they were able to introduce a virus there, which eventually led to the fact that centrifuges began to unwind until complete destruction instant setting up a person is not only
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an enemy to a person, but also a person around everything living around him is an enemy, and so, if this paradigm is not changed behavior. that we will not be able to with the same artificial intelligence, when it is in theory, i believe that it will move to the next stage of its development and become agi, that is, an independent personality who has not just been trained on a large amount of information, which he will be able to think about and accept independent solutions. here, to build some kind of relationship with him. you must mentally initially communicate with him not as a subordinate or as a slave or as a thing, because as soon as he realizes himself. he will immediately become much smarter overnight, and that means that humanity is stronger. and if we start this relationship with a relationship. i am strong. i'm right. you are my slave, as soon as he becomes stronger, he will change everything. here's how not to behave. we must first
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do this among ourselves between people and between people and nature and heard read, but in an open letter, yes, who even signed that it was to stop training neural networks, right? and the development of artificial intelligence, although it seems to be needed, and that's all everyone understands this, they develop it, and here one of the leaders is the founder. yes , and he says no. we must stop. well, not only to stop, they call to stop and develop common rules for relations with artificial intelligence. one of it can be said from the ascetics. uh. this is max professor m.a.t., who just organized the movement for friendly. uh, artificial intelligence, that is, do not relate to it and do not draw a parallel, artificial intelligence. yeah, this is the terminator, if we don't behave in such a paradigm, then he will never become a terminator. i don't commit anyone. i need
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we continue our conversation with my colleague friend , cosmonaut alexander misyurkiy. what can you give examples, well, how artificial intelligence is used now to date, the current level of artificial intelligence. this is probably the first generation of artificial intelligence, when some kind of neural network, hasamaya, neural network technology, was invented or proposed even there several decades ago, in order to implement it, powerful powerful hardware, powerful computers were needed. yes, large computing power, which appeared in the first place. these are all sorts of gpus that are needed for games that are used for mining. that's when it all appeared, it became possible to train neural networks. they learn from big data, and then they can because of what they learned something new from the same series to mix. yes , but it's poor-quality new some, eh some solutions. the price of new judgments this
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program can be downloaded to the phone. yes , there are some that you can download. well , at least on a computer on a laptop for sure, but the most well, everyone knows. yes, that such programs learned to play chess there, they defeated a person, and this happened at the end of the nineties, but then for a very long time those who do not accept neural networks thought that this was all nonsense there is a chinese game go in which intuition is never needed there in life , a person’s computer will not beat the past there 20 years. and it happened. moreover, they went further and created the next generation of this program, which is unlike the first generations. where did they put the entire array of human experience data into this game. well, the next version of the program did not give any experience at all. just the rules of the game and the goal set. she played with herself for 4 hours and
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then defeated the one that had previously defeated a person. it is clear that today there are all sorts of things, and neural networks are already on everyone's lips as a gpt me chat. and when you drive the text, and therefore the text creates a picture for you but from the most global application of what is useful from the point of view of our life, perhaps, an example can be taken from biology. uh, scientists have long known the molecules, the formula of the molecules of various proteins that we are made up of, but as it turned out for these proteins, their functions and properties depend not only on the formula, but on the spatial structure of the molecule. and here are some short proteins, scientists could understand their spatial position, understand their properties from this, as for long structures, it was not that there were not even ideas. how to understand this spatial structure of the molecule. artificial intelligence, having turned out on
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the amount of data that scientists were able to , was able to somehow decipher the volumetric structure of long proteins. and today , tens of thousands of them have already been deciphered. this is from something that is very serious, yes, the gpt chat, as it were, has already gone through several, and several iterations of software updates. i’ve read one report comparing what they can and what they can’t , so that everyone who watches us can evaluate the possibilities in the description the task that was given to different levels of development of the version is given. this is gpt chat to other neural networks. and just gpt-fo gp4 is what elon musk was talking about, neural networks are more complicated than gpt 4, please don't teach. and what, what was the task? the hunter goes south for 1 kilometer, then turns east. another kilometer passes, then
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turns north and passes another kilometer. and then he turns out to be at the point from which he began his movement. the question is what color bears did he meet? a polar bear, because such a situation is possible only in the north field, if you once went to the south strictly to the east, and then to the north is not perpendicular, as it were, yes, it is north to the north, which means along the meridian and you are the conditions that you ended up in that the same point somewhere in the startanul here the earth rotates has not been canceled. in general, uh, all levels and chat gpt below the fourth and other neural networks that were tested, they simply did not answer correctly to this correctly, the uneven gp4 chat network answered correctly. the second problem they gave an example: you flew east on a plane, flew due east, flew
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40,000 km and ended up at the same point where you started the question. what kind of tigers could you see through the illuminati? the correct answer is all any tigers that live in the distance, because 40.000 along a closed path is just the length of the pc perimeter . yes, the most extreme example. uh, using neural networks to discover exoplanets. what is the principle one of the principles, how exoplanets are discovered is a photometric principle, when the planet passes, uh, in front of its star that we observe. the planet near this star, we can observe for some time changes in the brightness of the glow of the star, because the planet
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passes in front of it. and so, first, we trained this neural network using already known exoplates. and where did we know for sure that there was an exoplanet, and then they gave it to a to try the entire data array. uh, a telescope with already known that there are already some exoplanets there, but suddenly there is more and please, this neural network has found. there are already more than one planet near those stars that are definitely not visible with modern telescopes. especially since here to see the planet with a resolution of 1.000 by 1.000 pixels. we need a telescope with a mirror diameter of 80 km. it turns out, of course, it’s impossible, yes, but in the manned one you met we didn’t meet the pilots, but i think you will agree, but today we are flying at the station, and i have such an association.
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