good performer we have age. here are the different compositions. there is god's album. you left a little. in lyrics, i went a little into more, let's say, intellectual poetry. yes , we had a lot of lyrical ballads of various rounds, starting there, but i didn’t like you there, well, there were a lot of different compositions by different authors. well, it's just, probably, every artist has his own stigma. yes, which is glued to him. here he is a jazz performer. yes, there or there is the horn of the performers, or is he some kind of bard there, in fact, all this we stand at all direction, where there are uh, different compositions created at different times igor do you remember the period of alexander's work where during one song he even went on stage in a bright image of death with a scythe in his hands. i remember that i was completely immersed in the history of alexander yuryevich and i even saw what i saw a large see

material, although it should be noted, by the way, that

at first they perceived, as always, very difficult there was no such single momentary breakthrough. yes, the same, god, we said, i'm sorry, we during the concert performed somewhere in the sixth seventh number. and it passed, well, not at all with a bang. not just over time. yes, it was not, the clip shot. yes, some time had to pass. well, they themselves , of course, showed, by the way, organizational skills and broke through the whole thing that no one wanted not to put on the air and it was all on the air. well, they just believed in this material . this is very important when the performer himself likes what he does, because it turns out to be necessary to say that before that. and i had this thought. i honestly i tell a story that in london i met a certain musician. here, and he

, as it were, directed me to this idea, so that here are some russian roots, and russian melody such slavic was used in the best traditions. there rachmaninov's profile and sergei trofimov had such material that we let sound through us at the same time. the handwriting of certain musicians who participated in the creation of this project, probably, at the beginning of the 2000s, people began to get tired of completely meaningless pop lyrics. and probably ripened the song it's hard to say for sure that it's tired. did people start to get tired , they just had to, it just turned out to be just separate material, which was recorded with high quality thanks to alexander kuzmichev. hmm, the guitarist and arranger, the studio itself was very creative, interesting, no one knew.

that's how much effort and money was spent to create this or that work. so much we did catch a fortune worked. just for your pleasure. it is very important. uh. sasha igorya and who did you yourself listen to in 2001 second third year. well, there, in fact , a large number of people, there was simply a very large amount of new interesting music. and even such names are difficult to single out. or pop music is all a new wave and just such a revival was new waves, because here is an experimental one, when interesting musicians experimented with harmonies with melodies, that the police group is alive there is a lot of interesting things. this i mean that development and harmonic there. if we take the same citizens there with the fact that when nirvana sound-guard appeared, that already in 2000

merkel, you understand by and large, this period from the nineties , two thousand, two thousand, ninety-one , shot to connect to the fact that they were already listeners, the second third year it directly resulted in a mobile phone that has been ringing for me all my life. never used. yes, of course, i still have it. this is a call. yes, two calls. and in the sense of the class is still not worth it all. do you love my old woman love, sash do you love this kind of steward, like a person? alexandrovich or as a creator? no, well, first of all, here, why exactly are the people there big blanket? wonderful to compare with him golder. it's kind of like that, honestly . i do not accept at all. there

are no comparisons, how funny, even and sometimes even sad, when they say such a direction. it seems to me that every musician is unique in his own way. but do you like erased or in any case, no one says it, no one mouths anything, i always liked joe cocker and in the same place, damn it, in general, i consider my aunts, and robert's plan is my uncle. she knows about it. and sent sms and all sorts of messages out there somewhere up there. she knows that there is such a singer alexander ivanov. well, there are many there, in fact, in different periods there were different performers who appeared with each musician. yes, and this is an influence. uh huh, allowed you to cultivate yourself, that's why the sixties were there. yeah, uh, there with everyone starting to light up. jeans finish their business there, some stones later came, there is margolan. tirex also had its time. it was also

given a lot of hours of listening. there, including from zapilendel, then appeared van hallin, with their amazing walking davids influenced, in short, so not a single one went unnoticed, because if there is a conversation about who, and who influenced, there are the same people who influenced us. it was also different jazz there, all kinds of swing there, people who did everything twist there, this is some kind of material that you passed through yourself and now you are this or that vocal technique, there are split- split ligaments, there is singing there, well which meant not only there just a clean hit. uh, some interesting uh instrumentals. i would even say tricks when it was possible to portray some instruments with your voice. yes, and how

would it be. yes, yes, there are all sorts of things. yes , as if such a technical individual in general since childhood was always talking when people are there with someone or talking. you have such a voice there, or perhaps such a voice. not to the people who write about it, or they compare themselves with a pseudonym, someday take alexander or some mouth would be yes alexander ron yes yes alexander ronda no, and when we worked in the center behind the stas namina music center in moscow, we had a story connected with the fact that stas helped a young talented team in promotion. back, i probably recommended to come up with a pseudonym, well, there were some abbreviated

alan, there were some alexander ivanov, but i always had a group of ronda by my pseudonym, therefore, here is alexander rondo, so it made no sense for me to invent some kind of pseudonyms for myself there , which would matched my second self in life and one. but i'm different on the stage. well, somehow it suited me and the name was then too late. in fact , this is all guys, i revealed to you the secret of a trifle, of course. you are such a trifle word, i thought about it. i listened and listened to this song again and again and thought about the word trifle, there is a jamb, there is a cool one. and we remade, by the way, this song, and the guys, when they sang god what a belly or there god there really is a joint there god or god save the king, as the guys often sang at concerts. can keep the king

here, therefore, here, yes, we are, as it were, such guys with humor, relating to strengthening somehow, god, what a trifle to do, at least once something is wrong to throw the trash out of the house and send old friends. so who is huh? no, there really is for creativity. we are by the way, got over all the famous say, so the platform. yes, anything is possible there . yes, it is always subject to all sorts of alterations. yes, yes, yes. the king is very respectful. by the way, uh, we called the other day, he said he was watching a podcast, paws happy to watch 20 years. later. maybe you don’t know, well, just in case there, i’m mikhailov’s bone and my father alexander mikhailov e. people's artist of russia - these are the men of snakes. e. this is love and blueberries, this surname is the same as ivanov, he says,

who will you have? i'm talking with alexandra ivanov group, ronda send them your clip says, it's generally a super song say hello huge i sasha is very respected as a person. we did not intersect so often, not so tightly, but now, by the way, i can try him dial. and maybe he 'll tell you something himself, father. hi how are you? it's great, father. hello, this is your son kostya mikhailov hello dad. oh what a wonderful holiday. come on sasha ivanov sasha ivanov says hello to you this is the maximum volume that my phone can give out. la hello dad, great i was listening to the song god what a trifle? yes, yes, yes, it was such a cool cool song melodic and very cool. made a very good clip. so

we have an alliance with trofimov - it's just doubly wonderful, because i'm from trofimov, he is a unique man. i like it as a quiet river. remember seryozha strong music the first spring flower and i wondered and god forgiveness i'll look to the east. oh, what a song all over the world these things are still singing and beautiful, as anton pavlovich chekhov said, whoever does not carry the beautiful, sins. here's a sin, less for us. thank you for your appreciation, thank you for my son. you deserve to be leading, well done, i'm not ashamed of you. and it is always expensive. thank you deal. come on, hug, hug

you always. like your dad, like an energetic energetic. yes, this is not a normal 80 vim, just listen to the sight, well, this is the magic of rock and roll. you don't know if you are old believers or sports? hos is not. zoshi in sports there, everything is always gone. well, come on, tell me. no, well, why am i not going to reveal all the secrets, of course, here, as if everything had its time for sports and creativity and love. yes, i just wanted to make all the young ladies of our country see her now. and who wants now present? lighthouse some kind of fire in front of the light my song to which i wanted to reach out

know the famous. to make all the girls popular right now has some goal ahead of us, say, if we meet in this cube in another 20 years. where do you see yourself, what would you like? that's just honestly just the truth, because this cop grants a wish. the main thing is that in 20 years we remember who at all, we were a joke. yes, we remember that we are going to come here. this is understandable. god forbid i didn't visit. well, you know, everyone's here, each to his own age. today i came up with some of my experiments. and uh, everyone probably already has a certain set now. yes, everything that corresponds to his age. yeah, that's why it's important to stay healthy somehow. i think the most important thing is to have the energy to work, and this or that big concert. and believe that there are 2-3 hours. this is such

a serious work to endure and that all this is worthy, therefore sleep is very important, proper nutrition is very important, and the road is very important. if, for example, before i could spend the night there anywhere, well, now it is important that there is some kind of comfort, so during the flight of the move, a good pensioner's conversation. yes? yes, yes, yes alexander ivanov 's artistic director of the rondo group and music director of the documentary ensemble group igor zhirnov are visiting today 's podcast 20 years later and our conversation was wonderful. although it was all a trifle, but god, what a beautiful trifle. let's listen to this hmm i

see the sky is quiet in it. i rise to the sky ate to breathe. i suddenly understand this to my soul your body. this is my soul, when it seems like this, everything should be. god, what a path the arrow, the fear of

throwing something wrong, went, we are glory and old friends know you. all of you, that for a family with a change, not being afraid to enter the little things, only the sky above your head is free. it can be seen

one day it will not become easy and everything will be unimportant and living peace is far from me. to make a square with a nym cloud, something is not so thrown out and old ones are sent from all friends, but something is serious death the sky is afraid of losing little things freely

only the sky is blue. old you are friends of all of you, but something seriously change without being afraid of small things to go free only the sky above my head and yours.

i greet everyone who joins us today on the podcast everyone wants to fly. i am acting as a cadet. today i have a commander. this is the crew leader. i am a cadet because what he does. i can’t even imagine how this happens, but we have known each other for many years for many years and the flight that we made with you. for me for life in memory, because i have never experienced anything like it. we talked a lot about pilots. we have talked a lot or will talk a lot about the training of pilots, and as far as naval aviation is concerned , no one understands this at all. i am a witness to that. i do not represent

your work, in general i have seen many times how pilgrims sit down. and for me, the fighters are no longer incomprehensible to the hooking of the hook for these three cables, but what carrier-based helicopter pilots do. excluded for my understanding, because the helicopter itself is a serious thing, but, nevertheless, a huge backlash. rolling onboard, keeling weather conditions next to a huge number of mechanisms, how does it all happen? you know it happens let's say so. quite familiar for a person who is slowly slowly drawn into the profession of a sea pilot because we are all born just people who live in two dimensions, we walk on the floor and we can move either forward or backward a pilot is a person who lives

in three dimensions . it has additional dimensions. it is not on a firm footing on the ground, so this gives, firstly, danger. you become a bird that has not flown in your life, but unexpectedly in age. there are 18 years old or 16 years old, you learn to fly and start flying. this is unusual, very unusual, or a person is simply unusual, because, firstly, these are high speeds. that is, we can run, maximum. there , relatively speaking, there are 20 km. this is the most. here are the sprint qualities of a person, and the pilot flies at a speed of 200-300 600 800 and further. further up to supersonic speed. this is unusual. it's very short. this is very let's say. so, well, an emotionally loaded person is very strong and therefore. well , the bag is always a different angle of view is different thinking is different in general, the perception of life becomes this i understand, and yet here is a helicopter, which means, i understand, we have included consumers. we started one engine from

the first engine to the second engine. we smoothly raised the car, hung, sat back , reported there, and laid out the team. she is waiting. we left it off the site. and if it's from all sides, what tolerances do you know, here, uh, i 've done a lot with helicopter pilots with the preparation of a ship from a ship from land helicopter pilots. starts to fly percent, about 60 40% still do not master ship, because it is a narrow area and a small area. especially still, and night flights. this is generally a terrible thing, because in fact there was not, nor the earth, the stars are completely reflected in the water, and about 30% more helicopters only land on the deck at night, in simple conditions. until the ship does not move. but when he starts to move, yes, this is a big problem. and i will tell you that i have seen several times in my life when my guys flew in the north saving people in a six-point

storm there. of course, this is very serious, well, this is heroism to some extent, because to guess the movement of the ship at sea. it’s very difficult, but the pilot who flies in a helicopter needs to first come up, hang out , catch this pitching and be in time in a short period. still somehow land me. it is very difficult to roll a huge six-point storm, which means you can catch a propeller, you can fall over. a you can touch deck superstructures. there, god knows how many of them, and then to catch this moment in order to catch it. you don't see the eyes from below, there are no eyes from below, so i i say that here it is generally heroic behavior of pilots. i 've met such thorns with me. the finger of the hand is enough, which can perform such tasks. it's very difficult. i read somewhere that there are mechanisms called, in my opinion, the bear's paw, which means that the helicopter hangs , the cable descends, it clings to the cable, and

a special operator sits here, who pulls it up from the helicopter. yes, there is such a mechanism, but, firstly, not all ships have taras for specialized small ships, sometimes a knife and a small platform. they exist. uh, the helicopter comes up, the cable gets hooked, and it starts to pull it up very carefully, because if we even pull it up with maple on one wheel, then the magician turned out. it can roll over, even the cable will not leave if the operation is very difficult, and on these ordinary ships, where they fly to save people in an unexpected situation. it's generally not planted there. just like that, they either hang down, lower the cradle on the cradle to raise it, when it is already completely impossible. or sit down, when possible, just finished yeisk yes i graduated from the yeysk school in 70-82 in the seventy-eighth year i entered there. well, after that, he flew for 42 years almost a raid after school. what was it like now we were issued on two planes, that is, for the first 2 years we

flew on airplanes, 29. yeah, and 2 years. we flew, then the thirty-fourth year on the plane. su-7. this is a very complex aircraft , a very complex aircraft. and we had an average flight time of about 260 hours 260, there are 220 hours, taking into account the fact that we flew only from june to august for only 3 months. well it serious raid very seriously. that is, you came to the unit, in principle, already as pilots. yes, we were practically prepared for the third grade. we needed to prepare only for special tasks of combat use. well, okay. how did it happen? the pilot sat down. by the handle of a helicopter, how do you understand that? as the meaning lies in only one thing, here we are a whole regiment, for example, from mig-27 ml aircraft they were retrained for helicopters. we just retrained them 14, about 20% of those who could not master it were weeded out. the rest mastered the helicopter a helicopter, if flying to the characteristic features there, if the pilot

, in order to accelerate the handle to the top, lift the rope towards himself, then everything is here, on the contrary, i reverse movement and the most important task is to learn how to do the reverse movement. and how long did it take for a pilot to retrain for a helicopter. what a hint of the eighth, probably, yes, well, we are the main eight k27. and when seven, by the way, it turned out easier why because coaxial screws do not have this rotation on from one screw. and uh annular annular screw, who walks does not move. it's easier there. you don’t have to give a leg to sit down calmly, but on mi 8 it’s more difficult than it has during takeoff and landing at the moment of rotation. it still rotates a little, you need to hold it with your right foot. yes, and when not in winter, it has coaxial screws, it does not. i understand, by the way, if here the right leg works on takeoff landing, now the question for the whole family of kamov helicopters is two propellers. yes, how do they not

clap. no, they don't clap. they are separated in height from each other and rotate in reverse side. that is, they are compensated at a careful moment of each other, you understand, but they still somehow do not just rotate each in their own plane. they somehow have some strange movement. eh, the swashplate somehow strangely works strangely, it works, but there the distance between the propellers allows all the same these things, that is, there was practically no overlap of fats, komovsky, the helicopter is more maneuverable than in mirevsky. yes, of course, he doesn't. this is the moment that the mil helicopter e compensates with the rear propeller. that is, if the screw rotates, then according to physics the helicopter also rotates in the opposite direction. by the way, we see this when the rear propeller fails and now the helicopter falls and rotates around its axis, who doesn’t have this, both propellers rotate to compensate for each other, it falls or rotates equally absolutely, therefore, in this regard, it’s a little easier and this a feature of the coaxial system and, most importantly

, power is not collected on the rear propeller from the engine, so it is a more maneuverable issue purely from the field of aerodynamics propeller works in this direction and draws in air, yes in this direction, and in this direction it does not draw in air, therefore there are swashplates that make the reverse side of the rotation of the screw in a horizontal plane. here he takes the air due to the fact that he has a screw. let's just say the curved geometry in the front. here are the lifting forces. and when it goes back, it aligns itself in such a way that it passes with a minimum lifting force and also, as it were, a line of passage, that's all. what are the tasks in naval aviation? the marine version has almost the main tasks in the task is a search for the destruction of submarine ships . this is the main task that we don’t have so many nosov helicopters . and now they don’t exist as such at all. we only have ships for single

basing. well, for the group - this is kuznetsov but, nevertheless, helicopter pilots. i also work for citizens and also boards a ship on any ship that does not have a landing strip or a runway. here comes the question. we just talked about it, night flight on a ship pitching, keel, airborne, god forbid, wind, rain, not a single lights landmarks, what do you focus on? when you land at night, you can't see the ship landing at night. there is such a certain point that is illuminated in some way, and the light is removed. why because it should not illuminate the deck so that i don’t pull the handle where i don’t need it, so we go along the lighting system that focuses on three beams, there is red green and yellow flashing yellow, but this is a kind of yellow and now the pilot must uh, keep a thirty-ton car su-33 aircraft

on this line, let's say, which is just there at the end. and he resigns himself, in general, there are centimeters at a speed of a very accurate speed of about 250-240 km / h. yes, because if you don't hold it, it could be a cable break. and maybe you won't even sit down, because it won't work, let's say, uh, pulling into the lane. you won’t be able to push through such a thing, maybe you need to have time to bring it to full throttle in order to get away from dad. and we have such a principle, which means that we sit down in general with full throttle. that is, i come on deck and before landing directly touching the mandatory turnover at maximum speed. firstly, the braking system works better, because the car is braked with a hook, which connects through a cable. she works better with maximum work. and most importantly, landing. for me, this is a very pleasant surprise. i always work on the ear for the second circle. that is, if i don't get hooked, i have to leave. this is the podcast everyone

wants to fly. i am leonid yakubovich today as a cadet. we have a guest, the former commander of the russian naval aviation hero russian major general, my old comrade igor sergeevich kozhin. when i watched how you take off an overload of almost 250-270 km / h, at a full stop in your eyes, as many dots of the capillaries burst, but by the way, an occupational disease is coming. we have a composition - this is the first spine - this is the first question, because we are fighting vertically, plus the spine is shifted, and the second is from our retina . this is an occupational disease of naval aviation in general for carrier-based pilots that exist. this is the first question. and second question. uh, sometimes you forget to pull yourself together. that is, in my life it was such a special attraction that attracts you godfather when you come in for landing, uh, before you release the landing gear, and how you pull yourself up completely, that is,

you are attracted to the quest in full, it attracts you like this , if you do not forget to do this, it happened in life. it was a slowdown for me too. you rest against the bomb- sight and until you slow down. you can't get that voice out of there. uh leaned back. okay, overload. well, four units in about shift. how many times do you leave papa? ah, so we have a landing regulation. that is, we did not make more than three or four landings per shift on our own or there as a part. in general, as if any touch is practically a landing, only without braking, and such touches had to be done on the order, there are four or five six, at least in order to, before doing, well, for training the flight crew. and when they flew on asphalt 125, they generally did landings there until 6:00 to 7:00, such touches, then you steer a hold, you fly, a springboard, you fly another hold and went

to the runway. i'm not going to ask how many of these pilots we have, but i said the last name, and here we want to get up about bags. yes, but this is the first person in general who sat down and who, as it were, is today the founder of the school of male aviation, namely aviation. there is even a question of gold. uncle was not the right word. this, firstly, the person was with a capital letter in my life in general very much. i had to be surprised. i'm like a lot of things i've seen a lifetime, but here's uh one of those people who really surprised me with this topic of hiv revolt well first of all, silver full that's just fly and fly. that's it, there's nothing more. if the plans are a table from the beginning of flights to the end of flights. here , until you draw him a planned table , they are completely filled. he will not leave you behind, and then he will be offended for a very long time. well, there was such a person. unfortunately it was. yes, what a tragic, absurd death, yes, a tragic , absurd death, and, as it were, completely not giving any. well, here's the fucking

rationale. aviation has lost a lot since its death, what happened there? you know, here, uh, we just celebrated the first time the naval aviation holiday, let's say, on the island and prepared. eh, there were demonstration introductions being prepared. so, uh, on several planes from 39 there, on all the planes that were on the island in the center, there were demonstration flights. one of the flights was on the plane 133 to show, that is, aerobatics with questions. so to say maneuverability indicators he made five or six flights, moreover, when they took the flight film tester, they were one to one. here is just one to one speed height distance dimension. here is one to one, but on this flight. that's something happened it's hard to say that well, something happened and it turned out. so