madam and you can verify people in two ways - to verify what they are yes, the first, because they say, and the second, because they are , of course, and what does he do. and long's case. that's what he obviously came to your house and lived at your expense. yes, yes, that's what he did. but how is he in general, that is, well, he didn’t go to work and says that, yes, yes. they didn't pay here. here i was thrown, and i'm looking for it all to develop very rapidly. i mean, we had a very short time before he moved. come to me here, because i left immediately after 2 weeks and these 2 weeks. he came to our house to my grandmother there at my grandmother's house. i was also born in ukraine in the same city. i came to my grandmother, and he also came to visit the head. he tried, as if he was helping our family there, buying some

pills here, then food. he is a hunter, he brought a duck there, uh, from hunting. why is it called? god say yes, there is such a moment that then for some reason already after 6 years, i was asked such a question, and what then is it god, but i'll back off a little after only 4 years. his mother called me when he had already betrayed me. uh, cheated, and i found out he was living a double life. completely with another girl there already in our apartment in my apartment. where were you when he lived this time ? it came to me and this problem came. it just got sharper. and when he came here, and he acted very competently, knowing that we are completely different level not only there financially. well,

intellectually there. e. i erudite him ; i have more interests in talents and, as it were, at first it annoyed him. and secondly, as i already understand now, that he was simply afraid if he let me out among the people, yes, as in the circle of my friends of acquaintances there, who appreciate this, they understand, yes, and the same as me with all the interests, uh, he he just crushed me, as if, that is, he began to slowly, quietly deprive me of these interests of my talents there. eh, there are hobbies. and how does it happen? well, he said, well, what are you all are you doing bullshit? look at these hobbies of yours. but it's just kindergarten. don't go there, yes, well, not even so they have one, of course about communicating with other people. well, it's understandable. he is at home. i work a lot. it is not right. if you go out there somewhere. i say come with me. i'm tired. here you will be a bad wife. if you go somewhere without me, he was still working at that

moment, he was working. now, after, and after 4 years, how we didn’t finish it even after 4 years. the way we lived and i found out about his mother called another girl, who loved and respected me so madly, and was for our relationship. she called me and accused me of what happened. i took him away from the first family. i say, wait, i say to me now this is news after 4 years that he, it turns out, was a family. she says, yes, they had a full-fledged family, they lived and loved each other. well, how is everything with problems? here he has a child there , you will do it yourself now from what you said, what you need to give. yes, then yes, i understand correctly that it was not some kind, there was one episode, but he was generally in stable a and systematically lived a double life. he had other relationships parallel to yours. you know, that's why everyone stayed there, because

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that he somehow took your apartment and your business. he was literally a gigolo, or he did earn, but not much, or he spent your money on someone. and i can't say that he is alphonse alphonse , probably, a person who really does not work. no, he worked, and he worked a lot. he worked. there from 5:00 in the morning until 12:00 at night there. well i think he's money brought, but i did not see his money, you never had a common budget. look how you say svetlana, he worked from 5:00 in the morning until 5:00 at night there bubu, then you say, and it turns out that he had a second life as a woman, there are telephones and so on. he told you that he works. check out this ube. now, yes, that is, you told us 3 minutes ago that you discovered that he had other women all the way, had a second life, another phone, and immediately

tell us with absolute conviction that he worked until 5:00 in the morning. in how long did he, uh, do this, yes , he mastered other women and other things. well, when he lied to you that he was already working. after a while, of course, yes, there were moments when at the moment you believed him, you thought that he was really dear, since he worked surrounded by my family friends, uh, who probably would could not. yes, lie too there, well , i don’t know massively, i don’t know with whom. how many seemed from you, then relatives and friends, they think. well, what am i going to get out of here, well , somewhere he took time off from work and left. well , you never know what business he has. and now i'm going with the wind, i'll tell you, their marriage will fall apart, and we have devoted so much effort so that they are finally there, so that the light and from there to here on earth near the earth. yes, you know, they are smaller, but people. but didn't bring you money. you say you haven't seen the money, right? and he told you before, didn't he? what is it, that everything for me, of course, lives in the same, that it will all be the question was asked, where is the money, we swore a

lot. you fought because of it. so he told you well there is no money. you talk, you listen to this work from morning to night. a why don't you get paid? no why they pay. and where did you constantly have some kind of need, yes, spend it, but not for me, but at the same time, for example, well, for your own interests. here is an example we have been there for four years. you understand in the end after all this whole story. it turned out that he bought the land , oh, which i didn’t know, you understand, a good interesting car from the salon suddenly , out of nowhere, money came to drink from him, therefore, he saved it up, can you somehow take care of it with you? well i don't know, in bed you had a quality he. uh, yes, we had sex everything is wonderful in this regard, but again, wonderful. he was thanks to me, because at the moment

when we met and it is possible that sex was the reason that he was so seized by me, and, as it were , over the course of these many years, when we were already there, and we were cursing, it was hard for him as if. sex was not the reason sex was the cherry, the reason was that you lived in moscow and the apartment. yes, and he, as he himself told you, well, with a mother with an apartment, he strives for success. uh-huh and at the same time , he can eat, apparently, use it there places of common use, and so on, but not to give you money for this, but to put the money in a box for yourself later or spend it on someone. so it turns out. yes, the path from above is the path to success for a man, the so-called friends, uh, in the circle that your spouse brought out. initially, they were always on his side, or someone there said. listen, something is fine with you, in general, you know, it seems to me that this became a picture

for them, too, is fine. firstly, i made a picture, and secondly, it became decisive how since we are talking about that, a person is holistic. yes, you don’t need to look for a soul mate before him, i also lived even when i lived with him. um, it's like i 'm philosophizing there. everything is beautiful, i say. i’m saying everything correctly, but integrity and everything else, and i live there in about the same way after him, but for some reason i was very strongly influenced not even by him, but by my environment. since these people are there with me there are the very diapers, and we were friends with the nursery, yes, and they grew up, as if i grew up in their environment there for 30 years. we know each other, and what was their influence hmm three questions, what was his influence on them? come on, there's a story with those pills for grandma. here it is clearly, probably repeated in each of our lives the word,

they all say that this is the best sympathetic friend to imagine. yes, he is the perfect man. here is one of them. kinet, yes, they themselves are now aware of it, but they know there are such people when she asked the question. why did they decide to stay with him, especially in such a difficult situation, when he took this apartment from me, and he took it completely illegal. also in the case , the documents also turned out to be altered by him. this is a contract of sale. let's go back, so that's betrayal itself. and what happened, then they could evaluate the order. yes, how could we film the reaction of your friends, well, or doubt, for example, your picture of the world, what happened? what was the betrayal? well, let's start with the fact that we have been here throughout our lives the first thing that he very strongly suppressed me by the fact that he, i said, did not let me out, anywhere at all. that is, all my

everyone is interested in talents, he skillfully extinguished, how would i be there, for example, here is an example. yes, i'm good at drawing. eh, he draws very well, that is, people there offered me to participate in exhibitions there. he doesn't let you. he allowed, but you know, so i, for example , will draw a picture that people want to buy , even i put it on the balcony, i think, well, now he will come home from work, he will praise me when he sees it. well, i went in and saw a smoke, and in general, i didn’t say a word, and the man didn’t say a word. well, how would i as a woman immediately think i don't worthy. i drew badly. i'm there and that's the same in karaoke. for example, i sing beautifully, we come to karaoke, the presenters come to us. he says, but no one sings with us. for example, yes, and you feel no, then i sing badly, then i don’t do it that way. well then it can openly say, listen to how beautiful the girl sings there is some other. he conquered you at the first, which means he pulled it all up, and then yes, lower it. yes, like

a spider, it means that it has entangled the cobwebs of this clatter fly and let's dunk you in a cruel reality, but friends did not see this, and friends, apparently, there was such a loving husband, such a caring, attentive, i admire his little level. yes, such, it seems, are not very distant. yes, and they were more important to them than the picture than the essence. they have. general. i wonder what happened. they have common interests. they are just like him, so we spent all the holidays in the kitchen. everything, that's for all our years lived there, maximum. we were celebrating, there are all birthdays, all holidays. naturally. i am human. for example, i like to go to the theatre. go to the cinema fly abroad there go to a restaurant. can you imagine? it got to the point that he constantly says, there is no money, i say, i have it, let's go. i'm just saying 500 rubles. we’ll spend the unfortunate ones, we’ll have pizza there, we’ll eat, we’ll drink coffee near the house. no, there is no time, no money. here you are bad. you

don't understand. this is, uh, the main psychological trauma, which is now just starting to recover a little, but does not let me go. e our divorce. and our scandals all happened due to the fact that we have, except again there were no boozes, there was nothing in the kitchen, nothing in my life, and at some point i freaked out and began to travel myself. there i flew to rome there to france another somewhere else. yes? well, he, but that's all, here i was a nonentity. so i flew away, you are so he is at this time for now. for example, i'm in france, yes, at the same time, i say, here's the money, i bought you a ticket. fly with me, i'll pay for everything. i paid for the hotel , i paid for germany there on valentine's day. i have such a holiday for him there. and you understand, he comes and does everything possible to not satisfy. this is mine for me to sit at home, so that i'm there in the kitchen with him somewhere tinkering. wait, let's stop. why is michael doing this? the answer is very

simple he is a psychopath. well, that is, what gave him pleasure, what power? and just power, of course, he is. well, how this task is used to survive to throw out about being out of the corner of your eye look. if suddenly there is something there to use again, so you didn’t leave him for a long time, because when i travel victims, yes, he means with these friends in front of us. yes she she left me here. he tells it in a completely different way. i'm even already in the car in the dvr, when he comes to tell people what he's done, she beats me. she got me there. wait. and you found out. it's from the dvr and the dvr footage. no, i just tried. and friends we have one conflict happened in the car. eh, when is he there? well, he insulted me with foul language there . yes, there it is, and i even gave you yes, and i'm still friends when they say, why do you beat him from the light? why are you insulting him?

you sent him. you called him there , so you are so slender, fragile, which means a girl with a figure of a ballerina. did you kill him well? yes, and you show the video of this record of the dvr. they don't believe? i say, that's not the way he says, no. no, well, they believe, as it were, but still , for some reason, the conclusion remains. they have good mistakes. maybe only a spiritual strong man. you know about friends. let me tell you about such an experiment psychological. and this is me in my group. i do this sometimes. here i plant a few people in a circle. plump like that, and then i ask one person to stand with their feet on a chair. uh-huh rise up. and they ask people around you, how do you feel right now? uh-huh and what do you want to do, then the first popular pull it down, yes, then they cease , as it were, the discomfort of feeling uh-huh the second most popular answer is to move back as

far as possible so that it does not hang so well, and the very last third by popularity, 5% of responses. what kind of help to get up to stand next to him? yes, it's impossible. it's better to look for people who will also want stand on a chair. uh-huh the second is better to surround yourself with people who are already on the chairs next to you. and as it turns out, those people are happy to say, come on, here's a ticket to germany, here's something for you, that 's all for you, right? uh-huh now, if you try to live next to such people, at least there will be more happiness in life, we are the problem that i understood it all once again appeared in your life, and he appeared a maniac, because she saw him. she was fascinated by him. she dragged him to moscow a. that's the main thing,

of course. and another moment that my ex-husband came to those friends, and for some reason told them that sveta considers you rogue. she considers you unworthy of yourself no matter how many times i try to explain that guys. i will always help, as it were, on the contrary, i strive there, i call you somewhere. and i'm all that the problem is, what are you, uh, called once. they did not go, the second you, strive, you were devalued the third time you again. and you continue to pull them off , it's already better to live alone. you were technically a husband's wife with friends e with such a husband who, as for the environment represented. in general, an almost perfect match. you might be proud. you were happy. hmm, never with him , what is unhappy in the loneliness that you now live. you know, it seems to me

that yes, pain and resentment, and it seems to me that the problem is at the moment. that's when i got rid of this environment, which yes constantly got rid of. but no, they got rid of me, because the insult. and yes, very strongly. it's a shame a lot of pain from this betrayal. yes and yes. and when, uh, hmm , it's all gone, the husband is gone. apartment gone. everything, tell a moment. remember, the awareness that everyone has gone flat is gone. maybe your friends are gone. well, first of all , it dragged on for a long time, because when i first found out about his betrayal for the first time. e. here i accidentally found a note at home to another girl there. here, yes there with congratulations, be happy teddy bear. so, as if he began to tell me again, there weren’t even any suspicions. yes, well, in general, i believed to such an extent, in any case, in his

loyalty and, again, the environment. here he is the only man of the light who never betray you that's all change. but he will never change. he just does it, but it is not capable, christ, he loves you so much. he understands you, he goes to everyone and look at me, he came, he sat crying with us and here is my last time we had a fight before his already obvious betrayal. uh, because once again we decided to try again and i'm all for it. well, let's go get some rest. here the new year has flown, the only holiday for all there for 5 years, we will normally celebrate, as it were, and again there is no money. i say, i let the money fly. he did everything possible so that we would not fly away and when, after the new year, i found out. about this girl, who caused me the most, probably, the most serious psychological trauma in my life. it turned out that in one month he spent more money on this woman than they even planned to fly away, for example,

yes on this vacation, that is, he told me that there was no way to fly away. here, and i spent 15 to 20,000 a day on it and all those things, all those places, all those lists that i wrote to him. i want to go there to this museum to this theater there, in this restaurant, that's all that she showed him there for these 5 years, told in moscow. he absolutely took her to all these places. that is , she is some kind of girl from the province. it is clear that she is completely different there and he arrived in my car. that is, he told her that he says he bought an apartment from him, although he bought it. i like he showed up. naturally , he came with an expensive purse, which i gave as a gift, it is clear that the girl was so fascinated there. he was there on the first day without even seeing her. they talked on the phone. he already there she gave her 51 roses a huge bouquet. although we started our relationship. i just begged them for these flowers like that, because on march 8 without flowers there i say, well, you 're coming home from work, you can not spend money

until you teach him. yes? wow. so no, they even taught him, and the most interesting thing was that i tried to explain it to him, that here is a cat, you understand? here if we fly, this is for the two of us. it's not like you 're doing me a favor. i say, you will also lie on the beach there to get high, yes, when you flew away you were charged with emotions there. you saw the world saw there another life there everything you come from you more. ugh disappointment. this is a consequence of bringing expectations charm. yes, disappointment comes after charm. and the charm. this is from the word spell. now you know, they loaded you there. and the question is, what now? when to live further? i understand what her resentment is, this resentment is much stronger than if we are just there and only physically changed. she put so much into him, and he's just the scoundrel he took. this is not material. yes, this spiritual

the spiritual took her material, too, into another girl. it's all invested. here is a betrayal of the capital letter. and what friends for sure. they understood it anyway, you told them you didn’t appreciate it, you don’t need such friends. you are not alone. unfortunately, because you continue to be in dialogue. you understand with these friends and with him, and until you drive them out with a filthy broom in your life. you will not come to that saving loneliness that you now need as a gateway. this is even a girl. yes, i would understand if he really fell in love there they started a relationship there. well, he also used it, that is, he used it when i found out about him and about her now. the main thing is to try for yourself. that's what i don't want more about him. i want about myself. yes you are part of uh this time you lost. unfortunately, but you have acquired something and acquired tremendous

experience. you have purchased this vaccine. yes, from such people there are enough of them, well, a little bit a lot, but they are, they go. here in life they are looking for all the victims sticking, that they can take away, go further, and once in a while they succumbed to it, it means you are at risk. you can repeat it to him. this is not the first time. i had a situation where a man took me two mercedes before that, well, it was there voluntarily. and here in this way once again svetlana yes, the first and important do not believe you completely. check, and here's what you check, you can't leave it under a question mark. this does not mean not to enter into a relationship more , but check there was such a stage when you say, when you realized that you were betrayed. they are no longer the same people who should be in life and when when i realized it, and these people disappeared from my life, including my ex-husband, and it really became much easier for me. i started living

in the first place, uh, since he took the apartment and took everything. i was left deep in debt because i had to live somewhere. i'm still there, and there i took out a loan and bought another apartment there. yes, i took out a mortgage. i needed to start somewhere. i needed to build a business. so i opened a production facility for this production, i also needed money. well, now business, thank god, is developing, but still need investment. and i was so high, because this time i realized that i can really devote it to myself. i went there, read it , went to the hall. i don't know how to draw. this was the beginning, that is, all that was interesting to me was some kind of good stage, but then it got rid of the bad, but the good was not added. and yes it is. yeah, but there is no good or good, there is only what you want, and in another way it is important to understand that life is undulating. well, it got worse. better. now you may again have a little swinging back into these experiences, into this pain

, into this resentment, is not good, not bad. you are a living person. you may have some again, yes, the main thing is not the point at which you are the main trend. you know , i take this quite calmly, because i have been living like this all my life. i lose find. here from the bottom up from the top down. it's a magnet to such an extent. allow yourself to do this emotionally as well. i'm currently suing this apartment. yes, i wish you a mother. case proud sue, but the case is the fact that now these courts are also putting pressure on me psychologically, because he wins them. yes, but he wins them on the basis of forged documents. and this is injustice. eh, despite the fact that, uh, well , here again, justice is just a judge, but the crime does not know, yes, that the documents are done, your task is to show it there. uh,

you see, it's useless, because at the first trial. i came alone. and again , for some reason, it so happened that he spoke so emotionally that i beat him, that i took from him 60 yes, i took you directly understand the concept of svetlana is a brother. your attempts to be honest open there don't work. you will always be, when you are honest and seek justice, you will lose next to him, so your task is to prepare for interaction with the enemy today. you see, all these events that were from the past, which are taking place by courts, are very stressful events. with so many good things going on right now. i just don't have anyone to share it with. well, due to the fact that those people left, no new ones were added. and i don't even have anyone

call there to talk about something good that comes from their success in business. i can't now. why do you need to talk about this? why do you need to have someone say? wow, what a smart girl you are, and well done, a person needs a person. it's not just that, i agree. wait, well, just don't look there, don't you see? before my husband, i had such a life that i did not have time to take pipes there, that is, only people. stop you had it yes means they wait never mind. this means that you are you know, really. i want to devote the joy of life to some positive moments. but they will somehow come new people will talk about what a pancake, what a cool you are. here come on and then for some reason they just disappear. give yourself time to build new relationships in your life. shawls including you yourself

well, stupidly it happens, but it's nothing terrible and you can fly like a fenist clear falcon behind the rubble of devastation, but yes, it's important, first of all, stop scolding yourself for this. uh-huh second, directly send them all. how perfectly fair said natalya yes, with a broom, clean it out of your head. these are all the people, thirdly, to give to other people. yes, well, somehow cling to yourself or cling to yourself for them to arrange a relationship. and for this, time is time friends. this is a podcast of the psyche, where i am a journalist , natalia loseva and a clinical psychologist , candidate of psychological sciences mikhail khors, analyzed the rather painful story of our wonderful heroine, svetlana, and we look to the future with great hope svetlana, we hope that everything will not work out.

creative industry podcast on channel one with you, as always, elena kipper, producer and clip maker and roman karmanov media manager and general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives and visiting. we have gitis rector grigory zaslavsky. hello and russian film director. anton migerdichev. good evening. lately, i have the impression that we have a boom in the performing arts. we have people went to the cinema people and watch russian people, went to theaters. people go to musicals. everywhere there are queues to see something, new ones come out serials, and they all have them immediately say something if you have similar feelings. well, it's not a feeling. this is in general, but objective data, that last year in the twenty-second , 24 million theater tickets were sold. yes , one could say that

there is no boom, but it is quite obvious that, and tickets began to be sold in existence. the best thing is that i was in belgorod in december and the theater director is there, that he is such a legendary theater director viktor ivanovich weakachuk. he has been running the theater for 50 years. and and he says i want you show. enter the hall. i say, why is there, what is going on? he speaks at the bottom belikovich. but it doesn't matter. i say, what year is the performance, but far, very long time ago, unfortunately, no, he says 2.000 of the fourteenth performance is alive. eh, let's go full house of course. it makes an impression. even if, uh, out of these 24 million, and someone went to the theater three times, then it's still, well, 8 million spectators. this is definitely not 3% of the adult population of russia, but six percent turns out, and it can even be more and uh, this suggests that, of course, interest uh, rose. this is good. antonov for your

man. all this year it was extremely uneven a year ago. if we talk about cinema, i had a feeling that it would practically cease to collect some halls, and not even because i left. the so-called foreign content is gone hollywood and it seemed to me that the time is not so cinematic. and why empathize with the product, which is often shown in the movies, uh, yes , uh, society is simply not able to and indeed. if there is a year ago to watch fees in cinemas - well, on an order of magnitude smaller than before all these pandemic stories, and relatively speaking, if it weren’t for cheburashka who cheered up e, we could say that all our attendance records, if we talk about the cinema, as long as they correspond to the pre-pandemic period. this

can be easily seen from the data of the eggs. well , for the last two months i have been observing e the situation in which there are spectators in the cinema for domestic releases. this is good, because in general the culture of such mass viewing is on the sly. it seems to me that not only in our country, in general throughout the world, exhausts itself due to the appearance of such a number of alternatives. and that person is just not enough. i still do. i wonder how people manage to watch so much serial content, as they say, that is now provided to them. it just needs to be a professional caretaker. i mean, that wasn't enough for me. so to speak, honestly, well, people don't understand either. yes, and also a season to compare them among themselves to discuss in networks. this is this is really some new

type of person is the ideal consumer. you know, like a strugatsky who watches something 24 hours a day. it seems to me that there is, in addition to everything else, some kind of moving. so this is all, and there is a certain danger of losing something really worthwhile in it. i don't know, maybe it's my problem, but i often notice when? the film, from my point of view, is magnificent, and it should, as it were, even gather the halls and should, uh, intrigue the viewer and somehow they should talk about it and it doesn’t exist, in general, and vice versa, as soon as comes out. e something not quite digestible, it turns out some kind of boom and so let's say, uh hype, as it is now customary to say that it is possible, so to speak, that an object of art is almost always almost always e does not correspond to large

box office receipts, with rare exceptions, of course , for a feeling that i hear something so familiar. and in this sense, i would like to ask gregory, well, well, this truth has always existed. this is a dilemma, what is being done that this is real, it does not reach the viewer or breaks through with difficulty, and then time something means, pepper prisali released a comedy on the screen. so she's humor below the belt and so on. and so, please, the viewer went and so on. here you can have a lot of eternal eternal such a problem. well, yes, but i'm listening to anton and i agree, and, at the same time , different examples come to mind when it was not so i agree. uh, because at one time, andrey rublev was among the leaders of the box office. uh, i don't agree, because everyone knows how offended menchov was. uh, when they didn't accept his film shirley-myrli, and then uh, yes, and yes, people in the audience would like to call it

something low-brow and recently heard some story about how they sat and were completely upset about how they did not laugh at the premiere. they were sitting in the cafeteria of the movie house and already started drinking, without waiting for the end of the movie and people came out and saw them drinking and added more. uh, sadness with some of their comments, all these film critics, there are figures. eh, the great soviet cinema and not the great one either, and then several years passed and suddenly it turned out that without this film we would not we can get by and many argue how much it is a movie or it is such a social masterpiece in its own way, but value. of this product, filmed by a smaller one, it became clear a little later, and not at the time, e of the premiere. and i remember how many years ago. i happened to be at the concert of stas mikhailov and i, on the one hand , our graduate, he invited stas mikhailov and

your graduates. yes, uh, he is his own director, that is, he is not only a soloist, but also a director himself, and so i was at this concert, and then i read it. how much he earns a year by his own labor, and i can not relate to this not to go, because this is an honest work man. yes , it works another thing, that it may not be exactly what i love in even this genre of popular song, but it causes my enormous respect. an interesting theme we have drawn. and this is not a matter of personal opinion. that is, that's what he a designated yes, and when does a movie have a deep? the author and, perhaps, therefore, is not read by the audience for the most part, because the statement is sufficiently concentrated. it can't be in this. you know what i wanted to say only one thing, that in the current situation, the very

quality of the product, as such, is of equal importance to the way it is promoted. nothing else. here, uh. of course, at the moment when andrei rublev came out, i was more than sure that there was no such situation. i mean, it was just, in many ways , a lonely masterpiece. now how? it seems to me that we are getting more and more into the service industry and music and film and television. we provide services, that is, often when , for example, i read some reviews of some films, i. i see the fury of those who write these comments reviews of people who do not understand. what it is is not clear to us, and then comes a layer of negatives of a different kind, so, it seems to me, at that time. uh, when andrey rublev came out, the public tried not to advertise what they didn’t understand, because they yes, because it was embarrassing not to understand and

they tried to understand, and this is this situation, which, the spectator we work with, is aggressive enough, uh, that require services. it should be absolutely, a different form of filing in these conditions. and senseless and this, it seems to me, is such a difference between the modern sphere in this world, in which the whole world is located, when everyone who , relatively speaking, has a phone, he is a documentary filmmaker. or maybe a director and try, surprise such a viewer who can film and edit himself and do whatever he wants with himself and become a journalist,

a blogger, not a blogger, a singer. here you can imagine, yes and in such a situation. we all exist now. this is a very interesting situation, which is fundamentally different from what it was even 20 years ago when yevtushenko wrote, such a poem begins to comfortably be not the stage of the hall, but to sit tugging at the program and is called calmly zaum, then the play , that i can tell you that yevtushenko’s position at this moment, as the author is quite arrogant, but no one today will argue with the fact that today, this viewer will always be right, yes, and they will be guided by him and his position. yes, if these spectators, e , get up and leave, if they don’t buy tickets, then the theater turns out to be wrong, and the audience is right, and then the question is like this was. what is this? it can be art, that is, mass, uh, a spectacle that is marketing correctly built, it can be artificial, but the role of art is more and that means those creators who

are present in this art e bear a big load on their mission, that is , those creators who compose a marketing story, that is, there is some way out. it may be, what may not be a very good example, but to consolidate most of the society in one room and make you worry. this is art, there is such for example, circus art, which is art, and it will reach everyone regardless of education. and so an accident is a common phrase. to some extent, for example, in particular. i'm doing this i'm trying to make, uh, intelligible. the form is often aggressive there, but at the same time to tell, maybe about subtle things and not to be bored. here is some kind of square poster depiction of reality, by the way, it goes well in cinemas precisely because it allows, uh, to empathize with

american cinema to some extent started doing it. eh, now it is, in my opinion, quietly copied. himself for the last 10-15 years. there is also some kind of crisis there, but uh, as zhvanetsky said , it’s the artists who must be successful , now this phrase most often has to be repeated to everyone. salary i immediately decided to press someone it is necessary, since you are inviting home, that is, it is necessary.