in ukraine, and certainly has the right to veta in relation to ukrainian actions. particularly particularly odious actions against russia, you want to say that nato either does not believe that the ukrainians are doing this and or knows what it needs, but doesn’t want to interfere, firstly, it’s necessary, as we all understand well, u, its anglo-saxons are at the head . on this or that side of the atlantic ocean, which is generally famous for the fact that it always comes from double standards throughout its history, what is allowed to jupiter is not allowed to the bull. in the united states, it's not refuse that they, in my opinion, tried 30 or 40 times to kill the drug fidel. he even said that i am a rickardsman in terms of the number of failed attempts on me. therefore, it doesn’t seem to me at all that they are very concerned about some terrorist acts by ukraine, that they are just beside

themselves with indignation at the fact that this happened for this is for they cut down the forest costs, the chips fly. they probably warn ukraine against these terrorist actions rising to some high level. well, for example, if the speech i went about the attack on the official institutions on the first persons of the state and so on. well, firstly, it is difficult to implement, and secondly, uh is very great great failure and match the discredit. in this case , the entire state of ukraine but such actions that create awe, that create uncertainty in someone panic. they may be quite in line with the general concept of behavior, so it seems to me that they try not to notice. all this and it seems to me that they do not express any opinion about this to ukraine. well, such prohibition recommendations. they assume

that in the end, if it helps to achieve the goals, then why not. i am sure that something really very loud and serious, concerning the lives of the leaders of the country and so on, but clearly ukraine cannot act independently in this regard, because it is simply not capable of such acts, maybe it would like to but can't. as for the western countries, i wouldn’t swear here either. therefore, i think that in fact our special services should be all the time they are vigilant, and in my opinion they fulfill their role in most cases, of course, not a single special service can guarantee anything from the american one either, otherwise what happened with the twin towers would not have happened. an interesting situation is generally emerging in uh relations in the confrontation between uh, russia

and the collective west. uh, very often they say, what ukrainians well done, they are so small, they are, uh, so weak compared to russia. and so they fight heroically. i have exactly the opposite. representation for me uh david is russia to goliaths is not ukraine but a collective breakfast. west ukraine in this case is a sharpened spear of the collective west, and the fact that russia manages to resist this pressure of the collective west, this constant pumping of weapons into ukraine is a situation where ukrainians can afford to inflict terrible losses on their weapons. deplete

their ammunition, they know that they will be reimbursed for all this and will be reimbursed with more modern weapons and will do everything to teach ukrainians with these weapons to use in these conditions, which is a very important political strategic issue. how can russia influence the position of the west in relation to this struggle without not getting out in this struggle? outside the territory of ukraine because what russia is doing in ukraine this is clearly the collective west, but i don’t want to say it doesn’t bother, but it definitely doesn’t stop. well, firstly, from the very first days i call for one to mobilize all russian capabilities to treat the special military operation as essentially moreover, it seems to me that we continue

to assert that this is a special military operation, while we have long ago come to the conclusion that this is a war with the collective west, which they have just been talking about. and if so, then the necessary measures must be taken in order to simply rouse russia to the struggle for victory. in this essentially very serious patriotic war for its independence, sovereignty is not about the fact that tomorrow, due to the extraordinary military capabilities and the ability of ukraine, ukraine will launch an offensive in groups russian territory, we are talking about the fact that with the help of ukraine, they are trying to deprive russia of independence in foreign policy , in domestic policy, to impose a certain course on it, primarily in foreign policy, but since it was impossible to change the political system and overthrow the current authorities, it means ultimately

to push to this, as a result of military defeats, the failure of something else. here. here we are, what prospect are we facing, if efforts are not made to consolidate the experience , the historical experience of russia suggests that russia has never lost a single patriotic war, when it came to some local wars. yes, there were such cases , the russo-japanese war or some other war with an uncertain or not very good result for us, but to a large extent, the mobilization of the rallying of the whole society on for the sake of a single goal, it bears fruit for such a mobilization . the western world, most likely, cannot go by definition, because the war does not directly affect its territory. it affects the territory of ukraine and for all the fact that ukraine is a trump is a player in all this - it is, in fact, a trump from the sleeve. still, this is not so close to people who live somewhere in the depths

of the united states or even the federal republic of germany, many of them doubt that it is necessary to make sacrifices, you know, spending, and so on. of course, we must use the fact that cracks always appear in the most monolithic concrete. and they appear these cracks. i do not make them absolute. i do not consider it necessary to rely on this to believe that this collective west will fall apart on its own, but they appear and we see how they grow these cracks. we are interested. so that they are aggravated not only between countries, but also within countries, this is so . of course, we count on the fact that the countries of all that do not participate in this are those that we call the countries of the majority. they will understand that this is not just about confronting russia right or wrong with ukraine, but about the ability of any country to remain itself. be with us and you will be yourself. if you will be with them, then you

will have to be like them or live according to them. rules. here is the difference in our approaches. here is konstantin. i heard you very carefully and i will try. uh, to summarize what you said, naturally , immediately for the first time you me, if someone understood, it seemed to me wrong, your position is both very decisive and very cautious, it is decisive, because you propose to mobilize. and all the e forces of the state and even more widely the people. yes, to defeat opponents. on the other hand, because you did not mention any actions against nato against the collective west, you prefer decisively and more, if you like, a large-scale

beat the enemy on his territory on his territory narrowly delineated the territory of ukraine to be limited not so battlefield today, ukraine yes from time to time force. the fact that this conflict captures more and more of the sphere. this spills over undermining the nord stream, which does not flow and is not located in the territorial waters of ukraine , some other episodes along the perimeter of all this , it leads to the fact that they are trying to intensify previous conflicts on in the cis space, to excite, for example, georgia or push moldova to take some action , where there have been and continue to be hotbeds of conflict, but still , the main main events, we all understand this , are taking place in ukraine, it was elected in this respect. this is an unfortunate victim of all these events and anti-nationality, which we often talk about, but i don’t want to. uh, you know , to abuse propaganda clichés, but

still, the anti-people nature of the regime operating in ukraine lies precisely in the fact that it does not care at all and does not think not only about the fact that he will lose some weapons. yes, and to hell with them, he is losing people. millions of people who fled from ukraine who are dying at the fronts, and he is losing them and is ready to lose, because the top is a standing power. and in kiev, it is completely subordinate to those directives that come from an ally. in this case, the patron of these political forces back. and so, uh, why did you say caution? i don't really support the idea that it comes up here from time to time. time, and the transition to the exchange there. tactical or nuclear? firstly, i'm not a military man, but as far as i know the opinion, but some military men say they don't have any tactical nuclear weapons, just start using them. it will immediately move to the next phase. frankly, see nailing it because of such tactical

strikes. uh, fortunately never was, then this is, as it were, their hypothesis. no, this is a hypothesis from the united states when it was fashionable in the united states, but to fight a possible invasion of russian soviet tanks tanks, then it was perfectly argued how rational it would even be morally justified to use tactical nuclear weapons. now. as you said, when they found themselves in a different position , there were double standards, but i also want to talk about the practical expediency of using nuclear weapons. here, if we talk about the territory of ukraine, what will give us, for example. the use of those nuclear weapons an atomic strike on ukraine in the first place, when we resort to this means, we remain in the feeling that we are hitting ourselves. first, because there there are people out there who tend to, in

fact, how depressed they would be today. i 'm sorry, i must say right away, apparently, there was nothing only in my hurricanes. i'm not calling for nuclear strikes with non-tactical or strategic nuclear weapons all i mean is during the cold war. eh, containment it suggested. the presence of both strategic and tactical arsenals, and. if you want containment to work, yes, then explain to the enemy in advance, what are you not going to do? it does not support strategic stability. that's what i mean, i, first of all, do not explain what we will not do. we have explained to everyone what we will do, first of all by our doctrine. firstly, we will do it if panamas strike us, and secondly, if there is a threat to the existence of our country

, none of these cases, until in any case there is no second circumstance, if we are not talking about ukraine , but about in order to teach poland a lesson as some see fit or even what is there to be shy in washington with new york, that's what it is the apocalypse of which we want to leave responsible ideas, which fortunately are not put forward by responsible people, yes, but as far as the warning, they are made, i support them with the warning that not all actions of the west can be limited by the usual methods of resistance. from our side, there may be a different reaction. this is, firstly, and secondly, we did not use everything within the available opportunities. we practically don't. now the air war. we did not attack, probably, satellites, for example, satellites satellites that submarine cables or submarine cables fly over ukraine, at least until now underwater pipelines and underwater

pipelines. although, in my opinion, it also arises here, as they play with us according to some kind of their own rules, without admitting to anything in the same way on our part, perhaps the doctrine of plausible deniability. not caught, not a thief. you can guess that it's us, but uh, in any case, you must understand, if you resort to this method, like the northern stream, then you are not immune from the fact that we will not resort to them, again this will be a response case, and here i am on this, by the way, i agree with this. i agree that we must destroy these weapons that are sent to ukraine. use all possible means to destroy them, of course, it is desirable to avoid destruction on the territory of these states. but as soon as the oneiric population cross this border. everything should be aimed at ensuring that they do not reach the battlefield. and i'm glad you 're voicing those thoughts, because if u the whole

conversation was limited to upper management, that in the first place. this would not be of much help to the top leadership, which, as president putin has repeatedly said, wanted to hear other opinions, especially those of responsible people who are in power today, since you support you tremendously. thank you. it was an interesting conversation, see you next week. thank you hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov this is a podcast of space history.

today a wonderful person, people's artist of russia actor producer yevgeny mironov came to visit me hello yevgeny here you and i, uh, are united by the fact that we both went into outer space. you as an actor who starred in the film, uh, i came out as a professional for real, one of the best films that i think has been made. lately about space are based on real events of the time of the first, in which you played a major role. you were the producer of this movie, what made you want to tell this story. i am a manned astronautics, first of all, thank you very much for the appreciation of your evaluation of the movie. it is very important. a, what inspired me you know, i saw a documentary. and where everything was told that after 50 years the declassified

information about the first spacewalk, and alexei arkhipovich leon, i thought, what are we doing in hollywood, we would shoot not only a chemo make, we would shoot this man. how can we have a story that doesn't need a screenwriter. there's so much drama there. uh, there were collisions this whole flight. yes, they start from the ground, it's simple. well, you understand, not one script will write such a and further. this is where it started the most important thing began, and the most important thing was to persuade alexei the archivich. and i remember that i dialed him in a trembling voice, i had a number. i dialed his number. i think, lord, how can i explain who i am and films, as i just dialed the number and say alexey alekseevich, this means zhenya mironov, i'm an artist, zhenya hello. i didn't even begin to explain what kind of films i starred in. i speak fast. i really need to see you. he says, come and i'm late for traffic jams. i was a screenwriter. i arrived

4 hours late. suddenly worth shining sneakers. true, the training suit is flat, alexey alekseevich says. well, come on in, and this is where it began, how our journey will continue. how did you discuss the movie script. here he read it for the first time, when we met him, there was no script yet. i didn’t come, no, the idea and only the idea, and he should have given the go-ahead, which means i began to ask him if there was dinner, an amazing wife. she cooked there. not only that, as a narrator , his amazing wife came up all the time, she says, a bit too much you tell. well, it's kind of hot. this is the best not to tell. nothing further. we started writing the script and we had consultants and you know how i couldn't um ask lyon everything because we were actually shooting a feature film.

uh, there needs to be twists and turns, how to say both in life and in the family there had to be some dramatic ones, so that the audience would be interesting to watch, but you can’t lie, you understand, because the living hero leonov and his wife and daughter and relatives and koroleva in - first, he came to the set. he liked it very much. very cool. here is the direct apparatus. everything, exactly. he said, climbed out himself, everything is cool. i tried everything. as a professional, i understand. how many emergency situations there were from the moment of launch further, how aleksey orkhivich returned, how he managed. i don't know how. well, having relieved the pressure, turn around in this already airlock chamber and thank god the living, uh , cows, seem to have returned to the ground, but they flew far away from where they were going to land, we don’t need them yet they refused there automatic, and they are in manual mode, and after they were taken out of this for more than a day, they froze. yes, yes, yes, cosmonauts,

firstly, we now have the minimum required number of things to lower in such conditions, that is, after landing in regular places, the crew could within three. well, to survive, wait for the rescue team, and all the cosmonauts pass , and even the artists who flew with me, and everyone went through, just a survival course here on earth in case there is an abnormal landing. i know that he did not say that he, and the fishing rod relied. that is, if they splash down until they reach to catch fish and so as not to die of hunger. he took it away and threw it away and put down the gun, and it was useful to him, because there are either wolves or bears, that is, they already heard some kind of lake with belyaev together. well, in general, here , well, anyway, i think that the most important merit of alexei arkhipo-osinov is that he was the first earth to go into outer space, and his exit was only there for 12 minutes. here, i have a way out. 8 hours 12 minutes, like a huge one. this

easy difference. anton well, anyway, uh, it was the first exit. and when i asked leonov , it was important for me to understand how i should play. the moment when the first person breaks away from the ship and then no one knew at all, in principle they knew, well, as if the calculations could have guessed, they could, but still there in a spacesuit once. well, no one can fully know, no one knew, i tell him alexei arkhipovich, tell me, how could it not be scary for you. here's what not to be afraid of. only fools. i was very scared, it was important to overcome and at the moment when everything was swollen there, when he had a panic, of course. he says, i remembered about my daughter, and who will bring her, and on september 1 , there is a daughter in the room to school, and this thought made him work for survival. i want to ask you anton since you have set a record for the duration of a spacewalk, tell me well, are you

experiencing? i want to understand there is this feeling, well, it's not even fear. well, as here is the abyss above you. tell me, this feeling is unfair, there was no fear, because everything is worked out we have no emergency situations, even critically, well, such close ones. uh, i don't know about deadly we didn't have, that is, workers. yes, we all understand that this is very hard work, that you have to constantly uh, move to fight with the spacesuit, because the spacesuit, in order to, uh, we stay alive inside has a certain pressure and every movement, for example, just squeeze the glove. it must be the resistance of the glove to do so any movement. well, just take hold of the handrail, and the other is to take some kind of tool to work there. you always understand tension in the hand is hard, painstaking work. i remember the first time when there was a way out, i opened it. uh, luke and beyond are sure to wait when it starts at dawn to get good at the cameras that were watching.

our instructors of the land of soup help us in our work. uh, well, so that there was good illumination and there was also darkness, i already began to rush there to tell me, no stop. so you have to stand now, russia will start there for a couple of minutes, and that's when the terminator went just right. well, that is, the strip dividing day and night. i am this i saw this beautiful planet to look for. well, now you can go out. well, and that’s when i started working, on the contrary, i tried to get out, well, it’s cool you are connected anyway , it’s necessary it’s clear with two halyards and such a rule should always have two fixation points, in general there were such situations, maybe not only with us when they saved someone -someone, who was disconnected and thank god our colleagues didn't even have special , uh, additional equipment. if suddenly , god forbid, he flies off, he can conduct actions and fly up to the station, i'll be honest with you i will say. i made a discovery for myself. i would be in space, despite the fact that since childhood i dreamed of either an artist, or cosmo very well done

. i had such a choice. yes, i watched, but the whole country watched live the flight of the cosmonauts now, so to speak, it’s not a shame that it has become. well, so to speak , habitual. well, when a movie is being shot, and thanks to this informational occasion , the whole world watched it again. and so it became work, and i didn't i don't understand it didn't work. i'm a hero and have been and will be a hero so i'm claustrophobic. i'm afraid of closed space, when a we were filming, and my brother was in one in one which one flew? this is the ball right here, uh, where is he pissed off, damn it, who is this little ball? we climbed in there with khabensky bone further inflated ours were inflated or there, because in the same place you inflate it all, then we are all on these cables attached, in fact , this helmet was made in england and twisted and i realized that i couldn’t myself i couldn’t open. the air,

of course, was some kind of oxygen, but i realized that if i start, well, the thought began to frighten me. i even like you there, it was not easy for me to play astronauts also because we were prepared for this. uh, well, the cosmonauts were not physically trained, that is, this is a centrifuge. i passed there, uh, then i didn’t wave, then these swings, sunshine, this was a disaster for me. here in the film it really was real you can see it there , just because the overload is felt, yes, well, that's the most er, well, interesting from my point of view, it was, as it were, filmed it was his exit. new went.

is free-floating today march 18 , 1965 at 11:30 exit human, outer space. advised how he moved. yes, he talked about it in detail. next, it was necessary to remove. it's uh, we're weightless.

and for this they came up with a whole system, how early they introduced me there, then i needed this one unwinding, which means that several people were holding it there, in addition, then another part began, which was not shown, when it began to be twisted, when it it was spinning. well, there will be no film, but the forces of money were spent. there are a lot of talents, but his word alone deciding the fate of this picture, and we showed him his wife came. came him. daughter, of course, then what, well, you understood, yes, yes, no, no, and i stood. it's just that i'm dripping, but everything is under, because he sat without blinking, without

reaction, looked all over and then it ended. i say well, do not languish already say. whether to shoot you zhen and it's so bad. no, no, you know, i just realized now. so say it was and suddenly a voice. and she is in the film , she also plays there. yes, and the ursulyak plays. uh, beautiful, you know, she says, but the only thing i didn't have. i even said the dresses to god, the pictures were accepted, and we have already become further. he accepted it, but it was and it was a very test. i'll tell you not simple, but here, well, not reprimanded. eh, the film, of course, astronauts. we see, of course, it is clear that this was not filmed in real weightlessness. well, they are astronauts. i am even those

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in the big game big bookmaker wenline general partner of the russian premier league we continue our cosmic conversation with yevgeny mironov about space, and cinema and i are antoshkarov. i want to congratulate you, first of all, this is the prime minister on the premiere. you already filmed it, no , you never read it in a feature film, by the way, somehow it was far away for me, firstly. you have the ability. how am i? suddenly there is no such one, like yours, so i never tried myself on roller skates. it was

difficult. this is a different profession. still agree. it is not so easy. what do you feel? i encountered this on earth. that is, by reading the script. we are on weekends. well, before the start, when the guys were already training, we were going to the town and discussed the script and already read some passages. yes rehearsed i ran into what to say. what is written there, uh, this is not a monologue that can be learned, this is a conversation in progress, you need to make a lively speech. eh, i thought, i thought. i have read the script. what should be said exactly like this with such and such intonation. eh, with such and such a speed somewhere to pause, but i'm like, like i think, i go to the theater. yes, yes, yes, here is klin , of course. e, well done, he immediately villam. i said, not anton, you can be simpler, as in life. you hold, and i know what was in the script at the beginning. well, let's say so many

cosmonauts and closer to the start, damn it, i realized that so many people would not be involved in filming. uh in orbit, so i sort of got three astronauts in at once. uh-huh. and i got more. uh, replica replicas. i should have already talked, there and with yulia and with my colleagues shoot down and with oleg, uh, some of them are talking directly. and you want to say something of your own, be sure to put it and forget it. and if it's not three on camera, damn it. i say, yes, i didn’t look at the camera, you definitely looked, but still in the eyes even when you didn’t look, but it’s professional, of course, it was not easy to get used to it i saw myself, i liked it. i didn’t hear a voice from myself, i saw only that in space we removed the glue on purpose , it showed me so that i could appreciate what we did. it was impossible, that this is yulia's gorgeous shooting of our flights, that 's it, real weightlessness, it is clear that

weightlessness this light fills. here he did everything so beautifully. well, it's interesting from the outside. and why did he ask, because many artists who for the first time advice on the screen are horrified simply from themselves and simply. well, on such a self, when you see from the side, it happens differently, i want to ask you myself. i will first tell you how it was with yulia overpowered. she is an actress of the theater of nations, and three times. i saw approx. well, the same expression on their faces the first time she opened the office and told me. zhenya, i'm pregnant, and i realized that this is a disaster. i need to change her in the performances to introduce another actress. this is happiness, on the one hand, on the other hand. for me, this is a problem the second time when i gave birth to my second daughter and the third time when she opened it. i say yuri will stop. i thought it was the third child. she says, no, i'm pregnant, but with space. i think, why, how, and suddenly i found out that in fact i didn’t really

believe in it until the end, that it would fly? of course i'm awful. we were all worried about the theater , everything was worried about her, and that was it. well, very touching. this flight from this here is your press conference everything and uh, the only thing was. that's when i looked at you, i realized that damn it, well, behind it is like a stone wall, but according to the laws of dramaturgy of good dermatology. when did we not watch the live broadcast? no, refused, the automation had to be told, and then i just sat there while we all continued on. you manually attached the ship further to yulia when she arrived, and we met, of course, everyone gathered. i understood everything that this day happened for this. that is, no matter how they were preparing, when suddenly this word was said refused. they, along with klim, looked at each other with a bad look. it was a regular situation. we have two circuits - the main automation and

a backup. when the main e failed, we worked it out again on simulators, so i checked everything, we switched to the second circuit. everything is clearly working, let's say the station is such a full-time node, we continue to fly around. everything, well, i'm sitting on thinking. well, now, if there are already left, there were already less than five meters, and suddenly the flight director, solovyov, goes on the air . he never goes on the air when the process itself is going on. he just walks out like a boss, after we dock he comes out with a suspicious speech, shut up guys. well done congratulations. and then suddenly anton goes on the air does the second circuit fail now? yes spare. we're just going off the air right now. uh-huh you make the decision yourself, we give you the go-ahead and take it, switch to manual pumpkin. and as soon as he finished this speech was born passed out. okay, and immediately refused, the second code.

so, when this second spare circuit failed, then we have such a red light in the middle, it’s just like it was supposed to be, but all the information is on the screen, but i understand what she’s talking about, and all this is flashing too and the most the main thing is the siren. uh, headphones, astronauts, there's not fell asleep. i don't know cheered up, that is, it goes on while you offend me. hang up sound. there it is only a sound further. everything flashes, that is, everything. seriously and here it began, as expected, but since the good was given. eh, everything. switched to manual mode. well, further as taught, glory. god docked how the guys introduced themselves julia and klin how quickly they adapted. here, uh, to such circumstances quickly. yes on e. these were not passing artists, yes, and open the secret that klim is in the lead role. eh, well, he had a completely different candidate from the resource. he i learned about her in general, she had a lot, yes, when she was taken away and when our psychologists decided that she could heal.