than for the role of whom he claims, he would not have been hiding at the beginning of the novel. it ’s strange and scary to talk about it, he would brandish an ax, he would come, he would do his black deed and take a selfie. this is what i killed. i'm not afraid. i can kill me - he would say, but from this hmm half a step to modern terrible. uh, these terrorist crimes, when the meaning of the crime is not to take possession of property or take revenge, or to give it or a feeling, but to send some kind of signal, some theory, some kind of photograph, so it turns out raskolnikov's theory when you begin to understand it. eh, as if directly, so you understand, not only told you there at school, yes, when you begin to understand, literally. this is a completely impossible thing, because , so to speak, this one is to cross the line in order to prove to yourself that you are yes, that is, you have the right, you have or you do not have the right. well, how would it be for the judges to be so far away? all all

creativity and everything. everything ingenious is a crime of a certain facet. this is a very terrible theory. generally raskolnikov's. i think that after all, it is worth ending our conversation on a positive note, because getting to these ultimate meanings, terrible double-edged meanings, nevertheless, both literature and theater at the same time emphasize the epic, emphasize large time cycles, emphasize external meanings. here's everything about it. today we had a pleasure to talk with the director, with the artistic director of the practice theater and with the head of the fourth acting theater. uh, course, school of the moscow art theater studio by marina stanislavna brusnikina. thanks a lot. i once again convinced. um, why do students like you so much? because that's the way to analyze the text. as you analyzed this today, i also discovered a lot for myself. well let it let it go to our treasures too. nitsu, and we

say to our viewers, as always, read with pleasure. what is my peace? my dream was turned into a joke. in you, i beg you to be the way you want. let your eyes burn like before. i'm with you again tonight this night, but i'm with you again with other oil. again

17 years every your birthday wishes add, and i will say no your portrait is your children. everything will be as you want. let your eyes burn as before. i'm with you again tonight at night catch other east. if

you want, i'll be with you again. their rare, there are flowers in my freedom tulips. i remember them so much love you i'll write my song. if it pleases, fate, not a hero is coming, i will play you, of course, you will be the way you want. let your eyes burn like before. i'm with you again tonight you at night, if you want.

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'll have you again . this is a podcast 20 years later by my kostya mikhailov and the chaif ​​group that just performed the song 17 years old, this song is about what about whom and well, 17 years old, to be honest, it was absolutely yes, an absolute dedication to one woman, this is my wife and our relationship. but now it is already so for almost all women, who who feels the love of their man. you have noticed that we have an orange cube prepared for you, but you launched this orange mood theme with your album. and here is volodya in an orange jersey. well, at least

we can say something with such a table in a stable expression and now there are a lot of some events, orange mood, parties, orange mood ice cream, like you or ice cream well, that is, it is somehow conditional people, that is, associations. it doesn't. that's it. some have even started now, such as a different color for themselves according to their mood. there is some blue there is some blue. yes, that is, in general, you are such a fashion. here is your mood. yes, color moods. by the way, you managed to grab some normal flowers today. today we were still shooting in shades of gray. today i look at the clothes, what i read is not necessary, right? yes it our topic, i read the first part of byrne. he just devoted a whole chapter to a lot. how to properly dress for the stage gray, gray. david burburn white overexposes black is not visible gray is perfect. here are the classics.

you see, it's normal. everything remains on the hat. everything is fine. you are no longer extinct already they will not recognize the beauty, but the cap i remember 20 years ago. uh, also, probably, a lot of different ones and a cap and a hat. i love hats, in principle , it is grigored to him. hats. listen, i don't know how many hats i see all, not not different. no, i pay attention to the hat, he has different hats. i think he has a lot. well, i have, well, a dozen and a half, if he has a normal hat. yes, i have only three normal good ones, i wanted something there, to be honest, i need a wardrobe trunk for my hat, and it takes up a lot of space in my suitcase. today we flew directly from yekaterinburg, so the truth, that's not laziness, flies all the time. you really stayed there , and you basically live in moscow or st. petersburg. basically, they live like that. what, what do they have, what do we even have some kind of rock and roll newspaper in the central

romance, but after a concert with girls with fans, you need to taste a little there to relax it's good to fall asleep in some hotel to wake up, it's ugly. you have to live not in moscow in order to come to moscow and, accordingly, this whole rock and roll life has been lately . it boils down to what they flew somewhere and it would be nice to have a rest so there is no check. and it would be nice to have a rest after the person. so there is no interview at any radio station. uh, then the concert and after the concert immediately the plane. where is the romance, well, it happens differently in general, we concert. you have everything you need for this concert and it happens for the sake of it. what? you actually do this garbage, you go somewhere. you've been sitting here for two hours, bitch. i cannot say that we are now in such a status, when we can afford such light excesses, so we do not touch. we try to arrive in the city the day before

the concert. here we have a concert tomorrow in moscow , we, as it were, today we came especially to you this program. and you kind of come to town. do you have time to walk around in the morning? the city, that is, there is time to become a part of the city a little, so to speak. where did you come. so we try to spend the night and leave there in the morning, so that there are no night crossings of the flight. in a sense, we are building a concert schedule so that the concerts are every other day or two every day. yes, it turns out dense, we make it so that every other day we try. there's even a big tour. here we have a librarian who was it was 75 cities. e, and. well, let's take it relatively speaking, seven eight ten cities. then we'll still stop by, yes, go home and on. that there are, here are such debilitating. we can afford not to. now almost a year already tours last in the same. we have a law, yes, we had an anniversary tour. we were supposed to start it in 2020, and, accordingly

, finish it in 21, and everything moved due to the pandemic. and at the end of last year we closed all our debts, played all the concerts. the fact is that the tickets were sold, and hmm , it was necessary to play these concerts. we played all these 75 cities and became everywhere and yet for us the hall, relatively speaking, there from a thousand to 4,000 seats is the most comfortable right? when you see it, do you feel it? still, the stadium is a little different, uh, history. you're somewhere here light bulbs must be somewhere. by the way, you sing , some sing in the inscription of the exit of the head. no, i'm trying to find some spectator and the eyes of one or two or three spectators there. this is what the audience and you cling to them. you see? sometimes it energizes you when the viewer, that's right all along with you

, is going through pronouncing the words. this is good too. and sometimes it's clinging to a spectator who, well, it is clear that he accidentally got in and does not really understand what is happening and thinking. oh, now we'll beat you. yes, in ours in orange, right? uh-huh so you understand, aha, here a person begins to stomp his foot. here he is. but he heard a familiar song. these he didn't know, that doesn't mean faith he knew. it is also very interesting to have a song that does not know of course. yes listen, here we will play a concert of winter acoustics, as well as specially invented concerts, where we walk rare songs. and here, that is, we are sitting there, the acoustic is more such a chamber atmosphere is homely , viewers already know that winter acoustics are such an exclusive. and what is the ural horn, do you understand how it differs from the st. petersburg underground we imitate, unlike st. petersburg, as a rule, no, peter peter, in

a nutshell, uh, peter moscow and one more thing, when the laboratory was, when the clubs were aesthetics . this is some kind of strategy and so on , and ours plowed, damn it, ours we have a very difficult city with us, so that just like that , you get out and here you are, and everything was carried to you no hands to plow. and when they saw that here, but the guys are working, as it were, then it’s already easier. yes, you are already going out and it went and knocked out there with water. prior to this, relatively speaking, we are such successors of the master danila , you know what the stone flower did. here it is necessary to do it beautifully so that the mistress of the copper mountain likes it. here in the urals , after all, there is such a city of masters, yekaterinburg , this working city is an enterprise, and therefore you need to do it well. here it is necessary. how many years have passed since you started together? you are still almost at school, in general, yes, the seventy-sixth year and now. oh, but it's not just a peak for me. and when i heard you, and i

immediately said, wow, that was a story. i have a friend who has perfect taste in music. he is always a little ahead of everyone. yeah, he showed me, there are a lot of bands. uh, when for that time it was completely uh, and imported information, including information, there was little information, there was no internet, nothing there, we all stuck to the screens, uh tvs on the thirty-first day in december after the blue light . make the rhythm foreign, maybe the service will show how they look here. here they are, how figure skating danced you, they recorded music, because some kind of signature could sound there at night, so, and it's a funny story. he says, look at these guys and bet. e. oh, uh-huh or no one will hear. yes, i'm called so cool. what an anguish, what an uh, sincere cry of the soul, just some. here is pain, longing , longing, crying, and everything is cool there, this is

some kind of biographical story. yes, uh, i'll go fishing, i'll give it to everyone, it's not a pity to go fishing. yes, she went fishing to balkhash . yes, she went fishing with her father. hmm. i think, what a cool moment for me, this is the moment when chaif ​​shot for me, just starting 20 years later. yes, it was, as it were, a little earlier, yes, 30 years later, that is, the nineties, that is, the eighties for teas. it was all the same. well, how would i say now, club history. then we went and played at some local rock festivals in different cities, and in the nineties, it was precisely the halls that began and songs appeared that people know there were radio stations where they began to sound yes, carriers appeared. uh, already a little more comfortable than a vinyl record, very, very much. yes, that's why i remembered the uh-huh syndrome. oh-oh, i remembered take your time, and then went out in some easy

direction left. this is the mood of despair. this one, an anguish, which then grabbed me and brought more and more rock from a song on a light topic. well, life has become easier, to be honest, this is the same feeling as an internal song. your inner feeling is some kind of feeling of harmony. it came with the outside world. you understand what is in your house. everything is fine with you, i always think that artists have good lives, it’s not really the case, right? what are you up to? we also had social songs, and at that time there were a lot of social songs now they don’t play anywhere at all, but there’s some kind of story, moreover, a boy who fell in love with a girl and completely unrequited. and so you know, here, maybe, that's so much wider than all that is happening around here, as it were, well, maybe, and relatively speaking about love, those very nervous ballads ladzelin, there bay would be, and in fact, i love you. that's why, that is, i think

that, in principle, we have some kind of nerve energy and we still enjoy it on stage. people come to our concerts and enjoy it too. but what about in this period from the time you were formed before you became, uh, all the allied known, just all the allied, it was such a period of small concerts, plowing plowing concerts, that there were big ones too. we have already stuck everywhere there these big ones there were flyers. here are all the festivals. we are up to the nineties. we worked at work and there were concerts. here are some days off. how about a hobby? yes, it was a hobby, an absolutely amateur group, and there were already concerts. by the 1990s, there were so many concerts that we, uh, there had to constantly take time off from work, then return to work two shifts. and in general, we had to choose, and we made the choice that everything

, let's still try to become a professional team. let me try that rock and roll fed us, what did i work as an installer at a construction site. volodya begunov at the beginning worked as a police menthol, and then the brigade also came to work at a construction site as assemblers. survived cool. we studied and developed, and, of course, at some point in time you suddenly understand for yourself that the word work on stage. this is not a shameful word to work. that's right, as if this is the first place of the second moment. socialism nerve, it's all fine. well, a man plowed his shift, came to the gym, and here we are. and i took in general, but here, and people come out bright, you know? well, you share something, you say it yourself for 2 hours. you don’t think about anything, you understand, and people share those songs with such a nerve of the late eighties, the very beginning of the nineties. they haven't gone anywhere. we have them and we insert them into the program and also play and

feel ourselves with pleasure for a while. these are the guys , relatively speaking, i'm a bouncy cat, i'm hung with pony on the fence, but i understand that i can for these four minutes for the duration of this song to become this ragged cat, but no more what a buoyant year of me now listen, i live there good apartments, good cars, yes, twenty-year-old people, of course, and what songs do the audience sing for you? well, i think so you can definitely call such songs, which, as it were, you can start the introduction and, in fact, not sing. yes , you don't do that. you are not. we don't. of course, thank you very much, we are a normal group, because now there are such games that are lazy, which, if there are cheaters, are just a microphone, and that's it, they sing, well we like we like to play we have fun. and even oh-oh-oh, and even bury , and even these hits and even 17 you still

play them with pleasure. well, listen, well, she surprisingly turned out such a song. hmm, it's different every time for 17 years. you understand that love is for us. here is the word love of a man for a woman, it didn’t become there some memories from the past, that is , things that are still absolutely relevant and i’m ready to sing about it and about the love of a man for a woman and a t-shirt, in my opinion, it's shino in the reggae style, well, i think dear ones, of course, they probably won't agree with us. but yes, this is such an experiment, yes, such a ural one, one way or another, we have some that we don’t have enough of. in principle, you can probably program the whole thing. at the time, rivers were very passionate about waves, you can probably make reggae music, but this is again a stylization of russian stylization along the way, real reggae of course, but not one russian person can play, more or less.

looks like reggae it was the group friday here where, well, really, it looked like a reg. he sang well and the jock was just so real. and so we all, well, we stylize, well, the stylization is pleasant, because, in principle, the music of the egi, folk music is very similar to russian folk music. here, in essence, also a few chords are the same harmonic solutions. just a little rhythm, dear. yes, there is a classic for a cigarette, our rather argenti. jamaica it's just that people liked this song, that is, we didn't want to record it at all. she is in the album of the ninety-eighth year shikagali. she was not included was the crisis of the ninety -eighth year. we wanted to sell our new album. here we came out in the album there were enough hit songs, there were in her eyes and there is still here, at least someone besides me, that is, there were several such well-known songs.

yes, but crises, nobody bought it, and on new year's eve, on winter acoustics , we played a song from argentina as a joke and a t-shirt, which, as it were, everything and what they saw, yes, representatives of one of the producing companies came and said what kind of song we are talking about you ours they say if it is on the album, we will buy the album from you. we went into the studio for 2 hours , recorded this song, pasted the album in and said, well , okay. well, although you wanted next summer it was in the winter in the spring here we recorded it, and in the next summer she already played from every iron, and she became wildly popular. i can’t say that it is some very important song for us, but it is important for the audience, and we try to play it at concerts as much as possible, because i understand that we played winter acoustics in yekaterinburg and in the program of this songs no uh huh but people hysterically, yelled, argentina and maykara. here he was yelling, and in yekaterinburg such popularity of his fellow countrymen continues. are you

collecting? well, we can say that four weeks before the concert all the tickets were sold. here we are now for the month of april an additional concert, you have appointed it as metallica in mexico, they come there, and every year, but always a soldier, and they do, an additional two more ends. damn you are at home too. and what keeps it so in yekaterinburg? what are your favorite places? moments, maybe, that's all you know, there in this city so much has happened to you. there are some well, i found for myself. the definition, of course, of the habitat hmm , that is, here we are as this living creature, as these all the time stretches it pulls into its natural habitat this city is a natural habitat for us. it is not as big as moscow, not as fussy as moscow, well, and well, not a deep province. that is, it is still quite a modern city. everything is there, everything happens.

some kind of cultural life is in full swing there, and based on what we loved, sverdlovsk at that time, now it’s not at all difficult to love it, because that city is gray and scary , sometimes you look at it there. there are frames. there, the chronicles of my veterinary people, we felt quite at ease in it. and now there is a plus. it is now all a modern beautifully developing public city. wrote a guide to yekaterinburg yes and now he just started to remake it. uh, go redo, because 5 years have passed in 5 years is quite a lot. yes many changes, especially since in this guide there were some clubs and restaurants that i recommend have already closed. something new priorities have opened, some have changed, a new architecture has appeared, which makes sense to look at. so i'm sitting right now rewriting it. we will have 300

years of yekaterinburg at the end of summer, here is my anniversary, so i want to celebrate it. now, for sure, all edible mushrooms in russia, uh, version two. reissue, and what kind of event will be in yekaterinburg in the near future to invite, maybe our spectators, first, if you have not been to yekaterinburg, it makes sense, for example, in the summer to come for a night of music there is a wonderful festival. as much as yekaterinburg, when the whole city becomes a huge music venue with more than 200 concert venues , right in the city all night long music from folk to classical music, jazz electronic music, dates, and now the whole city center becomes these 200 concert venues. people hang out all night, go from one concert to another, and in the morning gather on

the embankment of the city pond. there's 5 somewhere in 4:00 to 4:30 am. starts playing headliners. and at the end, when the sun enters along with the audience. everyone sings the ray of the golden sun. this is very beautiful. this is a very good sight and you need to take care of it in advance, because for this festival, of course , you have the legendary dam, right? well, this, of course, captures the dam. yes, there on the outskirts of uh areas there is some kind. well, there the meaning is very simple; you want to spend some kind of time; concert venue within. that's it, that's why it's interesting there. i once tried to see as much as possible, but it's impossible. in principle, well, and, of course, we very much hope that on the day of the city, at the end of august, we will somehow play in the city and make some kind of gift. we have a square, probably, as in principle, we have ideas, i don’t know if it will work out or not. we have ranked with

an orchestra, about 15 songs about the band and we have great composers. sasha pontykin. e from the urfins group. uh-huh and that's why he how can i conduct a symphony orchestra and at the same time he knows our music, and he is so in aesthetics, if we manage to make such a gift to the city under the conductor pantykin with the yekaterinburg symphony orchestra to collect these 15 songs. it would be great, and in 2000 the days of the city were the same. that's what you remember about these years, right in 2000, one of the most striking events was that we had a tour, but on a barge. uh-huh, they put on a big stage, uh, with a co everyone. it means that we lived on the same barge, because it is huge there. it was done there, just such a small pioneer camp was on the move, yes, and it was on

the move and we from yaroslavl to all major cities, people came straight to the embankment for free on the embankment. it was with the light directly rising on uh, hmm such structures. where are the speakers? light, right in front of the public, from a barge, turned into a price, and we lived there between concerts, when there were transitions, it was happiness, we came up with a whole album. here's time doesn't wait for the album. he just invented on this barge, because we went out in the morning. there, in some shorts to the waist , naked people were raised on stage, the pirate flag was turned on by amplifiers and they began to play. i remember that e sanya marshal once told me that he says, we are going with friends to some. well, on some boat along the volga we hear something like a probe is going on. where are you falling from? just such a good , solid horn, and loudly so powerfully, because it goes well. yes, yes, and then we look

, we drive up, he says on the barge and i look at everything, - he says, oh boys cut down, what a miracle is worth the video is this filmed documents are doing. we are now just with sasha once and there is his team. we decided to make a film 25 years later, we managed to catch this barge, because here we all gathered there, who was on this tour, who was still alive and well remembered, because there is a video from that tour and this barge. that's after we gathered there and drank and they took her to cut for scrap. that is, she lived her life. and so yes, a very beautiful story, it turns out, we are waiting for this film, because we were asked to record 10 songs minus they asked you if you have any backing tracks or movies and we have never done any backing tracks in our lives, we don't have any. and so they were, well, writing a list of 10 songs, and so they went into the studio 2 weeks ago and recorded 10 songs without vocals. we never did that

during a concert. you don't write single tracks. everything is somehow not. there is such a story you have that you understand what happened just now, what i dreamed about and thoughts about what and i would send a request. the universe and here is me heard a little, maybe off topic answer, but it was just a story. a week ago uh-huh we opened a sanduny bathhouse in our city , a branch of the moscow sandunov, right under the license, everything and everything, and before the concert we decided to go there with the company. and well, i think we went in and there, in the sanduns, there is such a ritual of common steam, when it catches up with fresh steam and everyone who is in the bathhouse, everyone goes there, there is a steam room , there is a huge one, there are 40-45 men there, which means that there are naked and there or in some simple dream came true. yes, and we

go there, this ferry, the men are sitting, for all the same everything is complete. we went in and sat down and suddenly someone recognizes. and this steam room begins to applaud us. it’s just that no one came up to applaud, didn’t take pictures of anything. it was such a tribute and i was reminded of the top sheets. i remembered a story, as one of our acquaintances told. uh, how he was in london hmm went to a concert. a long time ago, too , there were concerts, as she and now the whole hall is sitting. all. now it will be the beginning and took modestly absolutely enters e jordharissom hmm and suddenly stood up pitifully. and i applauded him i understand that this is the same projection, only in russian there is a lot of ural, naked men in the bathhouse express their respect to you, it was. well, damn it, it's there that someone has the title

people's artist people's artist is still there, and then you understand that this is it? is it always nice when they recognize, depending on how they recognized you, maybe there are such demons on the street, damn it, there it is vidal i recognized you only by your name only yes, yes, yes, of course, this is not very pleasant. these are such stories. there are like. i am with a person. something we we talk word by word. so you don’t see, he says, people see you, that’s why they smile, because the most pleasant thing, probably, was the bones for me. well, here 's the story in memory. about pro popularity night, i sleep somewhere at night means a call to the phone. i have not turned it off yet, i wake up at 2:00 am on my phone it says. sorry kostya cemetery director of the cemetery 2:00 am. i take, then the phone, and

then there is a drunken eye. oh, i'm sorry i woke you up, but this is very important. my friends and i are here at work. sit and drink guitar we got it let's sing a song let everything be as you want, the third verse. what words does it start with? i tell him the vases in our house are rare in them. so i say, kolya will go to the grave to dig, you lost a bet. ah, this cube is orange, by the way, according to your mood it is like the strugatskys it fulfills a wish and you will believe in 5 years, when the wish will come true. the main thing here is to voice and formulate correctly. what it can be now is such an age that in fact in 5 years. you can just not stupidly insert about it. i i want here in 5 years on the same stage in the same company. me is absolutely five years old. yes, the same company with these

guys, so that everyone is and let them be here in the box office. let the podcast last these 5 years. and we were to live healthy and yes, and we had the desire and strength to go on stage as cool guys. i wish you the same from the bottom of my heart. i think everyone in the audience is joining me. this is a podcast 20 years later, kostya mikhailov and the chaif ​​group are with you and rock and roll for you tonight . i recently met school friends. we can not see good ten years. i was very glad to invite them to visit. i arranged a little house for you for years , we sat there, the boy didn’t talk there, then i took the guitar and stole my horn of the night. i thought

it would be good, but it didn't work out. until now, the radio is lying around, as i found out about us, she said that she needs help. i could never help her and didn't know that. someone left her, and i suggested, put likes. one of them said that he loves cinema, but i realized that he loves