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and so it seems that they were beaten, they were killed, and by the way, they were often offended. children are repeatedly described as being attacked by such a gang of juvenile bullies. they knocked the holy fool down, held him and nailed his already shabby clothes to the wooden pavement , and then, when he got up, and all this remained at them laughing. i partly also described the time, which is interesting. many people would not be russian by origin. they were, apparently. there are italians, germans, some. it's exactly the same e. foolishness go to another land. even i would say to the anti-world, since these were very different parts of the earth, then such an anti-world in relation to themselves, they were here, and
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maybe it seemed to them that in russia there is some kind of special third ear, especially clarity in relation to to growth. at the same time, they converted to orthodoxy, it turns out, yes, they converted to orthodoxy, and in general, these were not rare cases. i saw one and give birth to him, when my wife and i were at a conference in jerusalem, we met such a childish father pierre or father peter, he lived near the coffins. e pratsev here near not far from the russian monastery. he has an amazing story. he is a frenchman, who, uh, converted to orthodoxy and decided to walk in russia, uh, decided to bow to the icon of the
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mother of god. i don't remember now. what kind of icon and he did not know, nor the language of anything. it was the early nineties. he reached the border, a russian man, without a passport, asked how he was going. then he says, i want to venerate the icon. they say, well, you know, you can't cross the border like that. he told us that they let him in in the end, because they realized that this was a man. goes. here he is so typical and foolishness. this is not only an attempt to hide one's holiness. gets rid of his personality. and this most
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expensive body is more expensive, because if a person breaks up, it's terrible and let's say the holy fools sleep, in sheds with dogs, eat in the garbage. he does become a declassed personality, but he doesn't lose. he dissolves in god and he becomes a part of some kind of divine energy. and the holy fools. it is not so that since she always had many people in the monastery and there was a period they have her height, and then they went out of kinship. it was normal for them to go out and then begin such a typical life for a monk. it seems to me that hypocrisy is a very
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useful thing. i am not calling everyone to become. and it seems to be, but her relationship is some self-denunciation. this is some look at the side and have a look with a smile. here, it is especially useful for people who carry themselves, which, as galich sang, think that his every word is a million and every step is a million. stay a little while at least in the inner homeland and you will see how little it is. do you mean this there is, by the way, a wonderful phrase, she is a caregiver when this formidable inscription appears. and daniil tolkoya tells him in general
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the situation is you are weighed on the scales of the almighty and found very light. a fantastic phrase for beauty. it's great all the same again about literature. it seems to me that if andrey platon yes is about the twentieth century, and platonov, of course, let’s say his story is semyon yes, where the boy dies, mother and the boy begins to be a mother for his brothers and sisters, then he puts on a woman’s dress and speaks from here. don't call me anymore seeds. you call me ksenia and ksenia - this, of course, is a clear reference to another famous ironic ksenia of petersburg, and for such a proletarian writer, which platonov was still considered to be during his lifetime, this is surprising , or his story yushka is such a classic, by the way, these are also found here are the motives there, the children didn’t like the south well, they didn’t like the hedgehog, they repulsed the hedgehog, offended him, he was homeless and this, by the way, such a platonic accent,
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i want to throw a bridge and uh to your writings. yes, the name platonov occurs in an aviator in the last novel. eh, chagen is also such a surname platonic in terms of sound and composition. that's all the same, if we talk not only about the lavra, where the yurudievs are shown, as holy fools, in the conditions of the natural russian middle ages. and if we talk here, uh, about your work, about your novels, the actions that take place. we are closer to us. yes, in the twentieth century, even in the twenty-first , right here, as you would define it yourself, but this foolish accent that is in your books. it seems to me that the foolish accent, and about which you speak it to a greater or lesser extent. uh, carry all my novels, because it's actually a joke, but july. this is already some prerequisite to the thoughts
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of auradstvo, and a joke - it's always some other twist. this is a crooked mirror and reality begins to change in it, but it changes as it changes. so uh some things suddenly become obvious. and we see that a person has some special ears and suddenly his ear is all over the mirror, and this mirror is a joke, uh, it always concentrates on something. uh, what not it was so obvious, and it seems to me that i try to write humor with humor. all my things, even the saddest ones, are then gelavr, which, in general, is not the most cheerful thing of humor, there is, of course, a lot of humor. it
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means a lot there, because humor, for example, in relation to death. this is an attempt to show her that you are not afraid of her. i had an absolutely amazing story. in paris, one evening i wandered into the cemetery of erlashe, firstly, i heard music from afar in live music, not this and watched can play and dance, and they bring in to this music coffin. some kind of room i think for burning then here, although i don’t know how the order is there. yeah, in the center of the circle that those present form, a woman in a bright red coat is dancing and crying, and she also has a clown’s nose glued on, and she’s crying. and i want
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to jump. what is possible in such cases? how to put the question, but i asked the present from the edge, what will it be like a funeral? i'm talking about why. in this way he speaks, she expresses her contempt for death. i say why jazz bank my interlocutor says he was a jazz musician. here this is something close to the foolishness, although non-kinship in its purest form. ah. foolishness is a view of oneself from the outside. so uh, i uh, in general, quite often uh, i use it. this is the look of the hero, let's say the hero from the first person. uh narrates, and he always has to
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have a sense of humor, just so that it is a stereo look at himself. and chagin has a very moderate feeling; he has almost no humor. pro and humor is achieved due to the fact that we see the main character through the eyes of different people. and here's the humorous effect. he arises from the first pages precisely due to this contrast and also a description. there is also a funeral and these funerals, that the fingers of the deceased or the hands of the deceased propagandist by the sea, although a mistake has occurred. yes, he is an archival, worker and narrator of the former story. only in real history. they said his hands smelled like bread. here it was about the accountant of rest to us, but someone said that well, yes, he had to cut years, probably, they could smell, their left. i really have a funeral. and they say there hands smell of ship ropes, and here, and
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chagin whom everyone considered a walking paperclip, and there would never have been any ship ropes in his life. but he had another, he had a phenomenal memory. and this memory tormented him, tormented him, and he strove to get rid of it. all my heroes act a little like a schliman and go monotonously, as if you can consider such a holy fool in an adventurous life, so changeable, yes, that's how a person from one state rushes to another and, in fact, things in the scientific world went to him already just like her, it seems, they are all so serious with their degrees of merits, and this one really came. that's all clothed over him laughed. yes, but in the end he makes them all easier. uh, everyone, uh, put to shame and found troy
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an absolutely amazing poem, which you quote in this. yes. well, yes, it's a poem. e by victor schneider victor schneider yes, exactly, but his poem speaks of paradoxes, then i will read it for a little. yes with pleasure. yes, they say the forger schlimann. so until the end of days and not recognizing, that all his fake finds, given to him as the remains of three, and in fact were such , he often told his wife, my love, my support of happiness, and he himself blushed from this lie and flattery even once. he himself, without suspecting that he was telling the true truth and that
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his wife was his only support, happiness and love. great, right? yes, because a person, being in his fantasy, he is aware of this . he doesn't understand that fantasy is based on reality. and this is dialectics , this is the ratio of the real and the fantastic it is not at all simple and a person often does not understand himself that he was telling the true truth, in general, chagin is in many ways an amphe novel about the fact that we ourselves existed for ourselves in some kind of myth and all, apparently, a shell of myth about myth. i love history somehow. i stopped by dmitry sergeevich likhachev to sign a paper. and i went to one magazine to the editorial office, there
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was some kind of note and i signed it. he says stay for lunch. company, but it was an offer that can not be refused, and i sat for 2 hours. here he always told me sergeevich some interesting things. in general, i was late for 2 hours, he says to me, well, why did you come so late? i say, perhaps it will be partly an apology for me that i was asked to stay for dinner with sergeevich likhachev. and they say in unison, and what does he eat? that was it . it was a joke, but it was a joke that followed from the myth that this man? a purely spiritual entity has long been. here are things like lunch. it's not about him. by the way, he also wrote a lot. yes, he wrote, it seems, but he didn’t consider it on purpose
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a lot, by the way, hmm interesting materials collected, and hmm it seems to be from sergei ivanov well, there is also byzantine material. well, well, my wife tatyana studied a lot . yes, and i seemed to think all the time, maybe she didn’t see you either, and like him, why did she marry me? yes, or vice versa, she decided to watch. eh, how is it that in any person there is irodstvo to any and this is quite obvious. the bottom because sometimes it is very difficult to deal directly with being, and its relationship is something. i would
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said the deformation of reality, and in a deformed form it is somehow possible to cope with it, that is, it seems to be at least something very human that makes our human life easier, like this okudzhava and the soul is for sure. if she is burned just more mercifully and righteously, then these are people with burnt souls, people who have no pride, and this is very important, because it happens that even among ascetics. here there is some pride when a person begins to think. and who's like me, probably no one else. they don't seem to think so because he is always the worst. but this, by the way, is still very interesting in lungin's film, the island there, of course, the image of the protagonist. yes, he bears such obvious traits of her kinship and is also curious. it comes against the backdrop of his own personal tragedy. a little something
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in common with roman chaga. yes, when a person has some very serious sin on his soul, and he tries, he cannot forget it, he remembers, and here is kinship, as a way to overcome this situation. everyone has their own, but in any case, here is something in common here, it seems to me. yes, uh, it's the so -called crisis living. and this is bakhtin's term. he spoke about a special type of crisis inhabitants, the egyptian, for example, and the life, at the beginning of which there is a fall into sin and or some terrible act, after all , as far as i understand, when we read some kind of life, we perceive it as some kind of example. yes, to take an example, but to take the example of the orphanages would be rather strange. it seems to me that it cannot be that some kind of relay race of some school of some kind of tradition to pass on this kind. or am i wrong, but
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in fact, holy fools, too, just like ascetics always assume a certain one. uh, so to speak, examples are exactly the same as her homeland, uh, and often. uh, let's say even in the lives it is indicated that he was following, but let's say he did to andrey of constantinople, that one, and that one, or is he there, eh? following the seed meat, who did uh do here? well , it is unlikely that we will meet that after xenia of petersburg some other woman, after the death of her husband, began to wear a man's dress and call herself andrei yes, a unique story. it seems to me that it seems to be interesting precisely for its absolutely and not repeatability it is forbidden. not necessary is impossible. it can only be once, and they seemed to be very closely following how it was before them. eh, it was
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such information channels, how could they? the lives of the herodians it was different , there were people from very good families. here, and besides, you didn’t have to be literate if, for example, you are in a monastery, because you usually read the lives at the meal. it turns out that a person left the monastery and became her family. no, sometimes he was within the monastery, and, like, it seems, this body they depressed theirs, and they wore two-pood religions, 32 kg. yes, they wore everything, but from different materials. i am not an expert here i will not speak, but life is described. that
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's what but the bristles, they were bristles, they wore inside was so sharp that it seemed to constantly bleed. i have e in the lavra. a clever story about the holy fool thomas, i like it very much. he is such a person, uh , not to say that hmm very hmm ceremonial here but he is the vocabulary of the corresponding and the vocabulary of the corresponding uh. there is such a scene. i think i can see her well. and if you take it off maybe someday it will work. here he is dying. and he decides to free the city at least for a while, pskov from demons, and he walks around the city and everyone knew that thomas was dying and the whole city went out and followed him and thomas threw
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stones to destroy at least the most impudent demons . at some point, his eyesight failed, and he says, depart the light from my eyes, they put stones in his hands, and he threw these stones at demons. here he is such a fighter, and thomas is a oh and kind. you are arseniy, he was more of a gentle person, and on the one hand we need someone who throws stones at demons, but on the other hand, we definitely need someone who speaks like angels himself, and these are different types of foolishness, and it’s wonderful that they are different. so this was a podcast. the life of the wonderful and and the writer evgeny germanovich vodolazkin was our guest.
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hello dear friends. this is an anthropology podcast on pervy, hosted by dmitry drov, 30 years old. i've been waiting for this evening for 30 years. i dreamed that evgenia smolyaninova would someday be hmm in our studio and all this did not happen. and today for the first time the lord ruled that this would happen yevgeny smolyaninova the first voice of russia, you say you skidded. and now what can we say about the magnificent ensemble? the mariinsky singing theater or, for example, the bolshoi theater drags each one of his own. here i have smolyanino and you
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will also have it, because this voice is the tenth or some kind of wonder of the world and everyone who hears evgenia valerievna turns into a pillar of salt. now you become it too. ding-ding no, there is a ringing, but, it turns out, the sound tells me a lot. in a word, the radiance of oranya in the spring with
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you column your voice her and this sound, but sweet love. ding-ding, ding-ding, it's worth it.
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we have a gift for money ding-ding, a lot of bells shining silver in the distance. yes, for me. well, amazing, now dear friends. we just realized that we are in an incredible metaphysical dimension evgenia
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valerievna was born in the city where dostoevsky got married in what city did dostoevsky get married program? who wants to become a millionaire channel one, and novokuznetsk and then kuznetsk the magnificent old city in maternity hospital number one, which, uh, are nearby, but with the novokuznetsk drama theater. well, you moved, then with your parents to kemerovo yes, but it was stuffy for you there, your voice was there, nothing to do with it. yes, not the one required no, quite the contrary. i had a spacious shower of chemical plants there. let's compare, that is , not at all comparable, even among professionals , i'm not sure that i understand this very well. i never needed it , but i didn't need to know that my
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voice was not repeatable. well, it's perfection in everything i want to get to the very essence, but it manifested itself in another way, it manifested itself, but in the way i wrote music, in the way i was doing creative work in general. i wrote music. i really liked music in general. i generally think that i will be the composer he showed up. i played the piano manifested itself in the way i play the piano. here in this, you fill the russian romance. that is the passion of the love that he should be filled with. where did you get it from? but artistry, i think, is a natural talent, so to speak already. but in fact, here i owe him all to thank. e by viktor vrozvich titov, our director. and for the first time i sang a romance for the film gena's life as a climas, and actually he insisted that i sing romances, because then i drank only folk songs, folklore, i was sure, and i argued all the time and well, not so much, of course. uh, well, i keep saying,
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come on, i'd rather you folk song. i do it better, and he asked for a romance. i didn't know how it would sound. hmm, moreover , in my school some such musical experiences, when i drank romance, uh, the teacher told me, never in my life has a romance been caught. yes, but i did not listen to her fortunately. i scored romances. and when i sang the first romance that i recorded. i don't remember now what it was, but i heard it. e, i liked it so much and in fact, tuff e he is this paradigm a i determined for me thanks to this opportunity, i learned to sing romances. as a matter of fact, in one record i learned to drink romances, because the romance hangs, the reflection does not live. so let's not stray far from this topics. yes please at your discretion. listen, it's not for us to dictate here what you are.
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i was driving home, my soul was full of obscure things for myself. the distant
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squirrel watched in the air, how the delicate string of the pink beauty woke up and the swallow, striving somewhere into the distance in the clear air. home i thought, my thought and us.
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touched mine. ah, ah, well, everything is there at school, no, deceit and hell , love and fears and flowers. look, and even how it is present in your orchestration, but you need this voice, which here the leading voice suggests to us that this is a woman
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changed him, now he goes with repentance or without repentance to her husband who has shamed. well, i have a different story. and what you have is not even a plot. for some reason, this image is dedicated to this romance in my, you know, some kind of female hopelessness, this woman is completely lucky in her soul discord. this is a tragedy. i'm here is strange, imagine, i'm here i'm crying. i'm going through this, and i'm crying, it's normal. i generally think it is. eh, this is exactly what i consider my strength not only in the voice of e, but precisely in the ability to survive the russian romance, how the genre allows you to these
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experiences go through the same. and who showed you something? this opened the secret of russian song and russian romance. well, i'll say, uh, viktor titov and we recorded going to the fair, even though the merchant there was a tragic song. it would seem . yes, well, in art it doesn’t happen that, if the ear is like that, everyone has fun. eh, that didn't work for me either. she must have been dynamic all the time. eh, hmm somehow intensifies and reaches some kind of already a cat. the tragedy song was supposed to be there, but it didn't work out for me not my aesthetics folks. noah didn't let the song come out like this openness and these shoes, yes, he has a press. well , actually, what can you not say there does or does. so it’s better to draw a picture for me, better than a picture, and he said in such a voice, you know, when i buried him. chopin did not
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sound mozart did not sound vladimir vysotsky sounded a little slower than a horse and when he said this, i understood everything how to sing. we want to listen and enjoy. well, then i’ll sing not a romance, and then roman
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bereg, as again i can’t go through the bridge to the end with white hands, but wet better names memory sounds. the last parting is worth the sounds in the water with their white hands, and i
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was in front of her, who she sings in the meadow on the other side stands behind it like a mermaid. tired of being healed on the finger. little ring well bravo dear friends, this is not comparable evgenia smolyaninov anthropology podcast on
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an anthropology podcast before our first guest evgeny smolyaninov. well, we need to know who is visiting with you today. we have yuri chevin in the studio. it’s very nice that the domrist pletist, how can i say a person who speaks buzuluk, is lying like this , everything is connected, it would not be limited to just performing different folk music, in general , you can play different music between each other when you die .
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but this hello is also not random, because here we are remembering how it all happened. a we began to work when my musical style changed, or rather, not that it changed, but some new direction. uh, there are new songs. and i hmmm really wanted to get back to the drums. do you remember it's boring to play romances a folk song on a cajon. here hello please, well, here is such a thin one. eh, texture, what do i, on the contrary? this is interesting. not all the same flamenco to scratch. well, here is mikhail smirnov for those who have not yet understood. who is this, and here is a and e, svyatoslav smolyanina. it's not a cousin. this is my son , yes. completely in my opinion fantastic components. it is audible. there is no such hmm horror. does nature inhale as
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it should on you no no, but no, that's not what you need to achieve. yes, but it's impossible. this is impossible zhenya, but there is a voice there. slava was always offered to drink always and small, when he was still small and his voice had not yet mutated. and uh, he was amused by the fact that he depicted my high violets, so to speak. from what did everyone conclude that he would be a singer? well, in this sense, nature did not give nature, nature never rests, but it gave rest. oh glory, and he already told him, uh, there is absolutely no need to sing, and no matter how you think about it. and here we are, for example, with the audience. can i speak bass for two? and what can be done, by the way? and you know how he works very badly. and how will he be in general, you are already
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quite an adult and you can tell about yourself. sometimes a good company in a good under a good mood. glory spoils us with songs. but this is extremely rare. well, since you are silent and since i how should the frontment represent, yes, then, but hmm my own school guitar yes and uh, slava is a psychologist, and that's why he has his beautiful bass u rehearsed students. i mean, you heal people. yes, in this rather complicated internet age. yes yeah, and what is this? for example, the voice of the lady. isma lenina can also be a drug against. eh, in the means is not so. that's how you listen evgeny valerievich well, straight

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