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uh, one very wealthy such a very status lady when she was next to a lama. she talked to him, and the lamas told her, you know, you just came from the animal kingdom and it’s not a fact that you won’t return there again, but her life is a luxury , her life is, in general, for many. it would seem like a holiday. and it often happens that it is as if the accumulation of karma, especially in the initial phases of life. we live many lives. she just comes in the form, like this, well, supposedly a happy earthly life, so in everyone has their own tasks. everything has its own tricky questions. and if you honestly internally do not deceive yourself, first of all, in your actions, then it means that you are on the right path and sometimes i see in the cards of people some restrictions, some blocks that do not allow them, for example, to earn a lot of money or let's say, a reach some heights.
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they wanted fish, but these deterrents are sometimes directly built into the map, sometimes because somewhere in the past they have already been made mistakes here do not really want a person having some large ones there, but the sums of money in their hands again committed them. sometimes we don't realize how wise fate is, how ah-ah wise this plan we came here for. and now more than ever it is important to understand. i am to be authentic, not to follow some, but a stereotype, but to understand that you need to spend this life on something very important , very creative, and you will feel happiness, happiness, not in reacting to what is offered to you and says that you were born at the wrong time, because everyone is here entities are not the same. there are people who live ah? and they rejoice, because next to them are the people with whom they want to be, the occupations that
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they need. it is very important in which they realize themselves , the search for themselves is not the search for problems. here is what is, let's say, a factor of happiness. i understand that one can talk about this topic for a very long time and a lot. but if it was not possible to convey the essence, i will be very happy. here's another question. transiting saturn walks on the natal moon as it is reflected in a person's life. well, firstly, you need to understand where the moon is now, if he walks on the moon in pisces, then this is one story, if he walks on the moon of aquarius - this is another story, but in any case, this is some kind of mental blockage. uh, you know, when you really want some soulfulness from other people. i would like to give it to myself. but this is not easy, if this is a female card, then this can be associated with difficulties even of a physical nature. this is very strong, all and all the feminine essence, it
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blocks it a little, but it happens that you are sent some kind of task in very difficult psychological conditions fulfill some duty. it happens so often and you need to do it. yes, it can be difficult to do, but this is exactly what he wants. he always chooses difficult ways in order to bring up exactly the factor that is associated with this or that planet, and the moon is a planet associated with a great feeling. eh, hypocrisy of sensations. uh, acceptance, something of an intuition. that's all it suddenly overlaps with happiness, it's all blocked, when you want to open the feeling. and there is no opportunity, when you want to prove yourself, but there is no opportunity, when you are in
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such a cool state for yourself, when again you do not see, maybe love, maybe there is even a claim to parting, this happens. well, first of all, this is your moon , be patient, and then there will be no separation, because saturn if you have any partner, he sometimes forces the partners to behave, well, it's so complicated. therefore, it often makes sense to simply go through this period. and then you will feel that you are something very valuable in yourself, a very important upbringing. yes, it's hard , it's hard. sometimes it's for the stomach. it's difficult for a-a issues related to childbearing and so on at this time , issues of pregnancy, difficult bearing , difficult love, difficult. but uh, again, sometimes. if you work, for example, as a psychologist, yes, then maybe you groped for some kind of psychological structure of your own and you understood how they are arranged, but this
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psychological series is some kind of eventfulness, and you realized something for yourself as a structure . this is the need to make an internal, first of all, cleaning. it will be presented to you in various forms all the time by events, therefore, the more critical you can be about yourself, the easier everything will be. well, you don’t need to by yourself. you just need to understand that this time is not eternal, this time is sometimes associated with the arrival, for example, of an older person with the fact that there is a need to take care of someone older. it could also be a personal story. yes, when it is related to personal relationships, it can also be stories related to parents and with someone very similar to older people , astrology is always associated with a specific card with specific configurations. only they to us they can point out what kind of eventfulness , what kind of meaning is in this, but that this is really
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a planet that requires internal organization, including psychological, this is true, but such a question was received, and we adopted a girl. e since birth changed her date of birth from february 20 to march 20. how will her life change? what is her future? can this negatively affect fate? thanks and in general actually, and was such. change supposedly your birthday. this was sometimes associated with some rituals, in order to accurately as if to approve, as if to program a new date of birth in oneself, but most often this gave rather complex results, and results in life, because there is a certain degree of imbalance. there is an exact date of birth, that is, at that time the planet began to act, they don’t care what you do with them, they don’t care how you try to correct the date there or do something with it, the influence goes on anyway. that’s why let’s say. here is
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the code, relatively speaking, for life, if something changes, you change the number series, offering some such alternative, as if, but it often happens that a person’s fate is a little bit, as if shaken. she just can't bring things to an end. something happens when a person seems to split in two, it's not so directly dramatic. it's not, it's critical. not every person analyzes his life. here but when you look from the outside, here i am as an astrologer, and i see that hmm it always leads to some. ah, well, some kind of splitting, yes, human capabilities, so i can’t say that i am a supporter of such shares because you can't really navigate. sometimes, yes, astrology gives very good detailed things, but it fails in this numerical year, but it also works.
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he uh, maybe, uh , even accompany something positive, if you understand in numbers, or he can create just completely uh, such an unpredictable negative, and i think that here of course it makes sense after all hmm stay with that date which is, and actually. what does the phrase mean? strongly developed intuition. i'm in my address it's not alone i heard it once, but i don’t understand what it is and how to use it. and most importantly, how can it help me. well, i think that, well, intuition is that inner feeling. when you hear yourself, something is not comfortable for you. you don't want to go there. you do not want. uh, do something or date someone? that is, you overcoming yourself still do it , some kind of event is born and as a result it
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does not suit you very much. here in order to sometimes even listen to intuition to understand how it works. there are even exercises. they as if you are offered interaction with this subtle world that tells you what to do, and what may not be done, well, there is such a thing as egregor. yes, but this is a certain essence over such a human essence, which with which well there is a certain connection. yes, it helps, and you communicate with this subtle world in this intuitive way. and for example, you go and pay attention. yes, i took the door and opened wide, just because of the wind, as a rule, this is some kind of metaphor, in general , recently, when i watch life for their lives for other people. i see how metaphorically fate speaks to people, how it shows them something, of course , you don’t have to fall into a state of fanaticism
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about this, but this is the time when you feel the consistency of your actions with what you want and don’t i want to. this is intuition and it is worth using it. so you really have to honestly admit to yourself, and sometimes for the sake of something to someone, but somehow you don’t suddenly fall out of some context from the social environment. and you don't like the action that is imposed on you, but you do it. well, i don't like this word. this is the internal resistance. this is the intuitive hint, and sometimes you get something. very nice, very advanced, but someone from the side says. no, it's not, listen to yourself. it is very easy. it's very simple, but when you take a few steps, according to this state of synchronism with your inner. i you will understand that events begin to develop in your favor. just mmm. the question of self-deception. there are a lot
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people who have lines on their hands. you know how mixed up such a thin thin mesh is not some specific ones, but a mesh. and if the fingers are very thin, these people. they are very hesitant, they are very nervous. they may be feeling something, but this mesh is from the line. yes, we will talk about the lines separately later. it doesn't let you see. the main thing is to choose a priority not to act on the basis of some kind of emotional internal impulses, but to really feel, the main thing, the main thing, is here sometimes i love i say this phrase to myself hmm when someone says something to you, you say to yourself ask nothing. he tells you, and why does he say this? that is, this is what it is for, in general, a lifeline that allows you to see the meaning of ongoing events, therefore, of course, if this mesh is on your hand, then try not to create such a
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hesitant line of behavior. choose for yourself something so specific familiar truthful and act so there is such a question, but in the program. uh, my date was just being considered on the twentieth of january and about people born on the twentieth of other months, but i did not hear anything about the birth of my husband on the fourth of march. but, again, when will it come? ah, the point is that i see that people associated with the fourth of march have something very obvious obvious. maybe something is happening with him too, but this is a whole range of indicators that we should consider and draw some conclusions on an individual approach. this is the most important thing, and we are getting acquainted with those things that you yourself can then apply, therefore, than the more we penetrate into this science, the more you will individually feel. how
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do you move on, especially since we will be talking about hands. and if someone does not have a date of birth, there was such a question. well, here, no, the date of birth, and everything and it's impossible to do anything to build an astrological chart is impossible, but we have hands and hands - this is a very, very talkative tool, so, well, we will advance in our knowledge and i hope that you will see a lot of things in the hands of your loved ones, and especially children. and this is very interesting. it was a witty podcast with you was svetlana dear, and we talked about the first half of may and not many answered your questions. meet the new card for life from vtb, at least stop, at least order a discount corridor in the active
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hello, my name is dmitry bag. i host of a literary podcast called let them not talk, let them read, and i and my wonderful interlocutors talk about this sweet wonderful process, because reading a in many ways allows us to live another life reading books. we observe landscapes, we see pictures of the past. we penetrate the secrets of strong characters. we meet wonderful people. in a word, read. it's fashionable cool wonderful. it is absolutely not an outdated way of life. this is life itself, so today we will talk wonderful, and our guest is a famous prose writer. sergei shurgunov sergei hello. i am glad to welcome dmitry and we will talk today about the literary biography of sergei shargunov,
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which is very diverse, er, attractively , we will talk about that. about how sergey made his debut at the very beginning of the 2000s, and we'll talk about his prose books, biographical books. and finally, in the second part of our program, we will talk about sergei shergunov's current studies on journals about writers' organizations. but, but in the middle between the two parts. we, as always, will have a surprise at this time. i remind that i am either reading a poem or showing some old book from my own library. let's see what will happen this time and i'm happy to start this conversation sergey , please tell us how it happened that you entered literature so early. well, not everyone will make their debut, if i remember correctly at 18 or at 19, how did it happen this is
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a family tradition. this is some special time that it happened that very early began to write composed. fairy tales rewrote life books, because i was born in the family of a priest, and hmm in general passion for literature captured literally in the very early years, i published home magazine to interrupt you. at the very beginning they rewrote the lives. you said, yes, semi-forbidden lives in such homespun covers, e lives of the new martyrs of those who were forcibly put to death in the 20th century yes, the tradition of the revolution of the civil war and later in the thirties. so she captured literature and began to publish her own magazine at the age of 10. in general, we are for the family, but in general it was distributed and even agreed with a neighbor who reprinted something. although mostly. i printed it myself. yes, of course, and then it was sel
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copied and generally it went. what is called to the people, for example, my first debut in the official press for future biographers. this is the ogonyok magazine where my note was published there. first there was a text about me, and then some of my text, and just all this revolved around this magazine. this note was of the literary nature of the critical summer. there was an essay. i don't remember. it was dedicated to the fact that there is such a schoolboy, who already publishes a magazine called freedom listen how cool this public building is. these are legendary years. these are the years when vitaly kortvich led the spark, yes, when he was resurrected in the spark, gumilyov in the eighty-sixth year, this is a little later, apparently, yes, in the early nineties , the ninetieth year, the ninetieth year. and you are the eightieth, that is, you are 10 years old, of course, i don’t even know, pushkin 14 made his debut, we won’t compare, and then, of course, a lot was written. e, already in the future as a student
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of moscow university, took his stories to the new world magazine in the journalist faculty of journalism. yes, yeah, where is journalism and at 19 years old. eh, posted there. i mean, you're like , uh, a professional writer. what a terrible combination of words. no, well, everyone writes, yes, it is known e clearly at 10-12 years old. e at 15:00, but not everyone enters the new world of 19 years. yes, for me it was an event and happiness, i remember we somehow hung out with classmates and uh, there was some kind of topic with getting into some kind of night club and i climbed over the fence and one of them screamed showing me. out climbs author of the new world. and although the rest understood that this publication was only to come, but it inspired me and it seems to me that i myself spread this energy of the legend. that is, it was the legend of shargunov? well, cool, yes cool
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to publish, it was inspiring and down with energy, then write big things, then apply for a debut award. i received it. well , in general, well, somehow i can’t imagine myself without writing, but at the same time i like this fever of debutantism. uh, you always want to feel at the beginning of something bearer, despite the fact that the family enough say yes, there and have mom and dad. um, of course, literary history, because before becoming a priest of the pope he was a poet and therefore a translator in the family there were always a lot of friends of writers. hmm. there, too, anastasia ivanovna tsvetaeva , you can say that i was brought up by my mother, the daughter of soviet writers, and at the same time among your relatives, gerasimov. you know, there, despite the fact that
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there are different eminent ancestors? it is very important for me to feel my independence to remain myself, and on the one hand, peering with love with tenderness with trepidation with an understanding of complexity, because sometimes the ancestors opposed each other literally, dividing into red and white. and yet i feel. what is called a discoverer. well, it's also very important that you don't so much continue the tradition. how much try to do something new so often happens, and the famous phrase of mikhail roma remember the two students who entered him, one did not know anything, and the other knew everything was obagen. these were respectively vasily shukshin and andrei tarkovsky you know me the formula of innovation in tradition is close. uh-huh. i mean, uh, it's really important to feel. this channel has been laid before us, but i really want
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and it is very important that everything that you think, say, do is not borrowed by the free. well, you mentioned the premium debut. this is an important institution of that time, the prize existed for quite a long time, probably for a decade and a half. i can be a little wrong, but approximately, and uh, very many through it entered the literature and debut award. uh, i never had a relationship with her and i remember that it is interesting because those who do not yet know whether they are writers or not participate in the competition. yes, i remember 400 kg of e-mail, which were stored in the first season. yes, i sent it myself. i remember how now in a yellow envelope my tale of love, baby, punished, baby punished, but you knew that in the description, in contrast, i didn’t think at all that i would win there were 40,000 thousand then. yes, this is a huge nomination, a huge lottery. now, in the example , the lyceum occupies this niche, and still it is a very important mechanism for opening up young
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talents, of course, the most important feeling, it's still personal. but hmm, when you take some step towards the reader and meet support. it seems to me that this is important especially at an early time, the baby is punished - what is it about love? uh, a youth of teenagers, who is twisted and typeset seductively. eh, lady, well , as you can see, yes, perhaps very different. in general, this is such a largely dramatic plot and earlier in many respects a confessional thing, which is still dear to me in general, probably. someone said that at the heart of any literature often lies an unhappy heart, some kind of broken pain, as he said, tarkovsky's pain. the older one is a wreck. now there is no happiness, therefore, it is very fashionable to exploit
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the theme of trauma. but even before it became fashionable. uh, everyone has always understood that m-th experienced shapes writing. well, you know, the topic of trauma is a special one, of course, the topic is not close to me either. uh, well, here's a kind of violent feeling in this topic of the social element. that is, it is always some kind of projection of a personal social phenomenon. it's like that in my point view of the new socialism socialism. it was supposed to show competitions in the social life of production, the leading role of the party, but here they spend as usual and arise within the framework of this canon, of course, but here all the same, i insist i don’t even know. that it’s always a personal experience, but an attempt to scale and generalize it socially always goes along with the artistic one, this is no longer my business. but if i were a prose writer, i would probably think so, yes, of course, because, well, in general, literature does not need to be driven into a procrustean there was no bed.
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and even when you have some kind of concept, because without it there is no way. then literature itself takes you beyond these wounds beyond these boundaries, because if the characters come to life, they already behave somehow by their whimsical routes. pushkin said that tatyana ran away, yes, and got married. remember, it's wonderful. uh, wonderful now wrote a new book. and how many times do you write a chapter. you know that the hero has to go there to say, it doesn’t work out that way, so exactly back, because, well, some kind of feeling, i guess truth dictates something else. artistic truth. it, of course, is both moral and cognitive at the same time, but here is a very important topic that you understood now very many. unfortunately they are straight forward. yes , what i read about something good became better, i read about what this bad thing became worse, no, and literature is changing a person, including through complexity and through evil. eh, i read it sometime
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. e poorly made like that, and god has a sloppy christmas story. on the contrary, you can become a skeptic and lose faith in the whole world, and after reading a heavy uh tragic book. you can actually become lighter, because deeper and you can't speak straight. not everyone understands this either. uh, my favorite example is a soviet cartoon from the soviet era, where the teacher explains how to be modest, you have to do it this way, and then there is a modest one among you. everyone speaks, that is, it is impossible to pronounce. i'm modest i'm supposed to be in this business and so. therefore, when there was your young prose, but then you were not alone, but we were the memoir genre, because i didn't accidentally say about the heat of debuting. wanting all the time move on the worst thing is to stop and tell. so i was like that and lead to some series of some yes, every new
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book, like the first uh-huh this is great. here's a little recall about those, uh, writers that you were fond of, who fascinated you, you probably know how to budora lemonade, and the figure of a complexly controversial night is a book from different conversations with very different people, uh, during life they could be just not at all friendly . although all of them in one way or another are connected by a common past and e into approximately one time. they came to literature and still went alone, that is, corks not only of lemons. this is not only limonov and not only. uh, yuri vitalievich mamleev, well, this is valentin grigorievich rasputin and evgeny aleksandrovich yevtushenko and fazil vylovych, skander you andrey georgievich bitov and many many others, and for me, of course, it is precious that i managed to communicate with
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these people and in my own way take a look at them. but if we talk about the same eduard limonov, well, at one time it was known that i gave all the money from the debut award, well, for a lawyer. in general, hmm to us no luck talking to him. uh, and for me it is, of course, uh, a very bright free, and above all an artist. for me, too, this is actually in a sense, the heir to rozynov's line in literature. that's because it's impossible to reduce it to something square and flat. still, that rozanov was engaged in this for the nobility. who are not cabbies. yes, you were less than me, and you were also a practitioner in life. yes, live, yes, and broadcast it in his prose. hmm , i must say that i'm getting ready to go. well, yes, no,
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not a new unknown book by damanov, before death roses or poetry he wrote a collection of poems. these are the verses of a dying man, in general , the bitterness of defeat is the strongest of all, and in a sense, he even exploited this technique. uh, when from the personal sphere betrayal betrayal of the departed wife who sold her comrades and it turned into excellent literature. after all, uh, such a constant diary is a loser, and he could achieve a lot of semi-official social benefits, but unlike many who, he imagines himself to be followers of successors. i would say i do not, but someone manifests it. he was absolutely not conjuncture, and he is devoid of conformism. yeah, and a complex figure, but terrible for our literature. this is how the book is excellent, because he is a wonderful poet, and i
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hope that this book of limonov's unknown last sticks is completely collected by him precisely as a collection. and it will be out soon. well, let's wait for the book, and now, according to tradition , in the middle of our program, we will turn to the poems of another, so it is the books that jumped the world exhibition. again , i don’t see the point of building it, so that you can immediately demolish it for everything you have. life has taught prepare for a surprise. hello, i hoped not to see you listening again. i need an idea for a world expo. here you need a bright and bold move. a tower of 300 meters entirely made of metal is a challenge to gravity.
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edition of the literary podcast. dmitry tank. let them not speak. let the wonderful guest sergei shergunov read. you remember, of course, our dear viewers, that i really like to show you books from my library. this time i brought you a beautiful book. this is the legendary known to all. uh, the collection of nikolai alekseevich zabolotsky called stolbtsy is a debut, by the way, the debut collection is zabolotsky, who then remained completely different after their arrest after their ordeals after the repression, and this is a publishing house writers in leningrad 1929 a pearly beautiful book in which zabolotsky well, as if trying to vestically, or something, somehow dismember a single picture of the world and show, but some kind of holiday that arises. right in the midst of everyday life, if not kopirosmonashvili. he
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's probably a pyrosman, that's how i will read a poem about football, not only because i once seriously played football, but because i think this poem is beautiful. see how the game there grows to the scale of some universal events. and how beautiful it all is here football nikolay zabolotsky rejoices his soul clavicle thuds loudly, and the interception of his cloak dances. in the ear, the membrane dances in the throat, the grapes and the ball flies over the row. he is seized, his poisons are stubborn at random, but iron poison heels are more terrible for him than you are so glad back they fell into a pile of inlays. these are defenders back defender. they dumped becky swollen from
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a draft, and now across the seas and rivers the expanses of the square of snow, straightening the lush armor and rooting in the meridian, the ball flies rejoicing forward to the fire, having blown his iron knees on, fantan beats from his throat. he falls screaming the betrayal of the ball is spinning between the walls, whether it is a ball, or whether it is the globe smoking, puffing up laughing, squeezing the eye. good night. the peephole will open good afternoon and the striker wants to torture four goals. pali in a row above them pipes do not rattle. he counted them and wiped them with a rag , the melancholy goal, the kipper and shouted. night comes night, strumming a diamond damper. she leaves a black key. a hospital opened in the atmospheric hole, alas, here word aids without a head above it, two copper spears, a stubborn
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ball with a rope, are knitted from the afterlife slab. water the grapes flow down into the cut-out holes and dry in the throat, sleep-forward backwards, sleep poor forward above the ground. the dawn has fallen deep , the girls are dancing at dawn by the blue stream. still withering to rest in a purple house, the wallpaper is getting old. mom every day sleep poor forward we live very important that this poem was subsequently rewritten and edited. but this is an early edition of a beautiful poem by nikolai zabolotsky yes. yes, when he was close to kharms kvedensky to the albanian group, on the one hand , hallucinatory, and on the other hand, they began a realistic poem must be told to the audience that we are both footballers and three petrovichs, and we happened
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to pass the ball to each other at tolstoy yasnaya polyana in history, when there were five or six, uh, fat ones in the clearing. yes, it was a great job. well, let's talk. uh, now about, uh, one of your main books is a book. here i have it in my hands. this is one of her editions. this is a book called kataev the pursuit of eternal spring by valentina petrovich kataev. how easy is it to guess the titles? what is the mystical connection with the hero? after all the author can't just write someone 's biography, maybe because he's uh hmm connected to youth magazine like you or not only this connection continues. yeah, because i became the editor-in-chief of youth after writing this book. maybe this, as it were , was the reason for the youth magazine to come. well, he shook my hand in a dream, and then they called me from there and say, listen, you come by that time. they wrote a book, yes, that is, it was such gratitude, i perceive it that way, well
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, it’s wonderful that i can say that for me this is a great stylist. uh, just a wonderful writer, and in literature for me it's artistic. this is the most important thing and i just enjoy it. e reading kataev a. blood and everything else. i wanted to unravel, or at least try to somehow comprehend his witty plot life, he was both red and white, he was almost shot in the basement of the odessa cheka, on the other hand, he hangs on the offspring. this is a whole story for the development of literature. he gave way to constantly young without him there would not be many names in literature, as it all was, and i want to say that this book continues, because new amazing after documents emerge. i think that there will be a re-release, because, for example, the protocol was opened.
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interrogations e, and it turned out that at the same time when he was sitting, that's where i was expecting to be shot , his friend eduard bagritsky poet was arrested, to whom kataev, in general, gave a ticket to literature, that is, he dragged him to moscow and began to drive through magazines and made him a famous poet. well, in general, a lot of important interesting. eh, and here there is no, yes, and and in this book also made me feel like a hmm little thing. uh, just investigating. and there are many, uh, unique letters. and lesha, we are further there, and many others. uh, there is evgeny petrov. eh, brother, intimacy of nakataev. this theme continues kataev is an excellent writer. and for me this is the main thing, but you are a man. e, who gave life, by the way, to the generation of young twenty-year-olds who then came in their youth. and here i want.
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