tv Muzhskoe Zhenskoe 1TV April 26, 2023 4:00pm-4:51pm MSK
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good afternoon, very often in this studio we disagree with our heroes not only in opinions, but also in concepts. that's what it means to raise a good man. they ask me, i try, but i don't know yet today in our studio, lyudmila ryazantseva, who really wants to return her son from the orphanage. hello lyudmila. hello good evening everyone. please tell me what happened to you my son at the moment. i think it was completely unreasonable that i ended up in an orphanage where my ryazan relatives reproached him
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dash adams has been around since fall break. first time. he went there with him to them for all the holidays, he arrived wound up. and what exactly did his behavior change after he visited your grandmother? well, i mean , i didn't listen. he says everything to me. in that, it took a very long time to enter the suvorov school, since i have a round, excellent student, the suvorov school. it was your idea. well i certainly, it was mine. how would he know just the thieves' school at that age? just me she told him that, as it were, there is education and physical training for a man. this is basically normal. i didn’t intend for him to be military, if he doesn’t want the military , please, you can graduate from the suvorov school and enter any other institute , i am responsible for the main question that we have collected here today. why did the pdn authorities
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take the child away? well, i don't know why they took me into it, by the way, no one dedicated it. that is, it turned out that we had an incident with him in the sense that i son son. yes, he got up a lot to play on the phone, and we agreed that his time on the phone would be limited, but my words to him are like peas against the wall. in the end. i woke up on the floor and looked at the floor of the first night in his room the light was on. i thought that he had fallen asleep, forgot to turn it off, went to turn it off, i went in and played on the phone. i asked him ruslan why are you still playing? put your phone down, go to bed. he said, no, i won't. i just snatched the phone out of his hands and went to my room. he started erase ride about pounding there on the closet feet hands well, i just hear he's nine. as a result, it means that i went into my
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room, i heard i hid it, the door. i realized that he was there, because he had a way to say it. in principle, my instructions were that if i was not at home, i needed some help, then in which case, go there. well, apparently, that's why he ran there to call his grandmother. complain about me that i took from him you didn’t go and check the phone at 00:30 at night and didn’t make sure that your son really went to his aunt. why didn't you convince me? i don't know why it's you yourself. ask why you are not sure. i was completely sure that he was there, you can't be sure, and i'll explain, he ran there with a psycho. i didn’t want to start knocking on the door to call the police to start
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a showdown with grandma, i wanted grandma to not be there. as it was not, they arrived, after some time, he called, they arrived. after some time. well at first, when the child ran into her aunt, her grandmother was not there, and your son could open the door from the entrance and run out. we have a door rattling in the entrance. i don’t know what’s rattling around with you, but for some reason it didn’t rattle in your soul when your son ran away from home at half past one in the night. so you are so omniscient. yes, i know everything about my child. i know, because i bring him up, i know perfectly well this is necessary from you. wait. i still don’t understand where the pdn came from and what reasons they had to take the child? this is a question for me. and to whom i don't know. you know everything. you are talking to yourself. i'll finish now.
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i explain this program. in the morning i woke up , a representative from the school came and asked for textbooks , said that grandparents brought him , took him to school asking for textbooks. i folded my briefcase for him. she took the briefcase and went , i was completely sure that she would now calm him down and take him to school. and that he will calmly come from school already balanced everything, and you yourself are balanced, i'm not balanced. but i can say one thing to my son. i love to beat. i never have him knocked down, because i know what it is when you are beaten. why did you suddenly start talking about the beating of a child, if we did not raise this topic with you? yes, because you even promise me, because they accuse me of this. who are you at this moment, for example, when i was in custody, they told me that it was better for you to write your child to your parents, since
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a criminal case was opened against you for beating a child. uh, they took a statement from him some kind of policeman, i don’t know which one i called my dad, i say that you wash what kind of policeman there can take from my minor child, in general, testimony. dad, he says, there was a teacher there, and what's stopping you from going and taking the child from the orphanage. you are not limited. you are not deprived of the rights of the child. right. in general, i was going to do all this in the near future, but here, please, the male-female program was invited, they were lucky. wait already. how much time has passed for me, and here is the male / female program, when your child is just about shooting, and then it turned out. i'm in moscow and when i don't remember numbers, unfortunately, i do not have such a phenomenal memory. that is, you do not remember when your child was taken away. do you remember how long you were with him when he was taken away
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on 24 what? well, not february, logically, you might think, probably january, actually january. excuse me, please, but my logic is very different , very different from mine . have you been required to recover from alcoholism or not? no one has ever made such a request to me. why is the child not with you. now i spoke with the director of the orphanage. she said let's not rush right away. let some short time pass, so that all this, so that all this subsides for you. someone else's aunt says, let your son live in an orphanage. and you say, let him live normally. in general , relatives are to blame for everything male and female is
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to blame. let's look like this. you will now return home, and as i understand your words , the guardianship authorities will come to you to look at your housing conditions. let's first look at your personal conditions. which belongs to my son, he is constantly here is the sofa on which he sleeps his bed here. he usually spreads out on the floor and plays his favorite phone. he makes me a fashionable guy. he likes to dress up nice shirts. i make him change every day, so he always has six of them. he plays checkers and chess very well. here is a very beloved cat. he found it as a child. now he is very bored. by ruslan lost, apparently. here, of course,
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we have in the corridor the whole working environment here is sand with cement tiles. here, of course, we have flaws everywhere. well, as if the hands do not reach yet. well, i think that this will be done. we carried out a natural stove, well, they put it in, well, now we still have to go. uh, how would a small repair make wallpaper paste and order a kitchen set. here is my room, as if i were already used to it, so here i usually stay here. ruslan has a desk or his belongings here. occupied. first place in school running. and he was an excellent student that year. i want to take my son. and when i visited him, he also said in the board of trustees that he wanted to live with his mother. please tell me, do your parents drink?
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they used to drink when they were young, and they drink now, despite the fact that they are 70 years old they drink, they are every day the same as my sister, so i don’t know why they suddenly decided that they are so teetotalers and can raise my son . how mother was raised, of course, screamed, because in principle, since childhood, i was so, as it were, naughty, but dad , of course, hit me for the first time, like when i was 3 years old, when i reminded him of this, once when i was older. he was very surprised that i remember this, but i even remember what clothes i was in, and he did not break his nose. it was the first time in 3 years. and then it’s already there i don’t know you can lose count. work with the details, i do not dedicate anyone. i need no money, and the materials
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, she drinks, and you drink, but i drink, but not me not drunken to forget everything, but she drinks heavily. well, she didn't start drinking yesterday. she says that you have been drinking all your life, and your hubby her father has been beating her since the age of 3, but she punished her, but she didn’t beat her so hard either. well, i will remember one episode for the rest of my life. i even have a memory. i don't wear it anywhere. i have a cord from a sewing machine hanging as a keepsake. i was all like a tiger striped in blue. well, what about your son now, then i don’t beat him, tell me, what did your grandson tell you about how she beat him? well he called me and said that my mother was kicking me out.
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it's pulling on my hair. well, i said, i say, it's ruslan, okay, mom will oversleep, let him, and you , she was drunk, he said. yes, i say sleepover. i'm going home in the morning, everything from the worker called us. she said ruslan got caught, what's the difficult situation? i say, i'm talking about, i'm already figuring out which one i got? well, we arrived already there, immediately arrived, the police already gave her testimony , they asked him that she beat him, fuck, her son was with us all the time. from birth, we lived on the coast, with whom did you live? well , luda came two and a half years ago to live with us in our apartment, she lived. and why did it happen? that you all lived together, and now only people left there,
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because we signed the apartment on her. why ? because she wanted it so? i mean, where did you move to the apartment? at first , we lived on rent for two months. yes wait you had your own apartment you owned to donate this apartment. yes, your parents who only drink and do nothing the child is set up, they moved out of their own apartment in order to free it for you and the child, and they themselves began to live on earth. i don't understand at all why i came here to speak or to listen. do you want to talk? you say we'll all get out of here. sasha also forgot to say that if he is seriously initiated up to 7 years in prison, if assault and the cause of damage to the child are proven. we became casual witnesses of the meeting of ruslan and lyudmila, so it turns out that they are ruslan and lyudmila, right?
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can you tell me, please, how do you want to protect your grandson, do you want to take him into your custody? yes, i would take you now, you still live in rented accommodation , no, we have already arrived. we live in our daughter’s apartment in chelyabinsk, but she doesn’t mind the fact that you bring her nephew to live. well, the grandson does not mind. she has children. well, i have two kids, right? let's see where you want to take your grandson. our apartment where are we going, well, take ruslan. this is a large room, as it is believed that all the grandchildren gather. the children are in this room, because
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we eat here, we watch tv here, we cook here. behind this wall we have another room with all the amenities. everything has a toilet and a bath , there is a washing machine there, behind this wall, we have two rooms. it used to be like one big room. we divided into two children. here is the grandson's room. our youngest has everything for toys on the shelves. here he likes to collect puzzles grandson. here they are collected here. here in this room we want to take ruslan too, everything is there, there is a bed. is it possible to do lessons there? we'll do the repair with both. for now, we'll take him there and live here. please tell me, what is the story when people broke your car? well, when
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we moved back to the apartment, she lost this of her son, ran to kick the car and shouted that now he would be called to the police by this car, the headlight was broken, she didn’t drink from dad. ask about dad. we talked to him. let's get a look. maybe time 12 turns on she spins that pull out can drag the hair brought. 50
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, dresses, needles and everything that they said on the internet, it's all not true. this is not what was said on the internet. it was her son who testified that she beat him and dragged him by the hair, forced him to. say it's all not his words. good mother from your words. that's right, yes, where is the child now in the orphanage so why hasn't she taken him yet? well, because i think that no one there will just give her a look right away. that's what your friend said, she was our editor before the program started. i'm in no rush to pick it up. let him sit there under the discipline of porridge, drink kidneys and understand how good it was at home. well, i think she said because she wants him to feel the difference between being a good mom will do that, right? let
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a good mother leave her child in an orphanage, i don’t know why lyuda said that, maybe she expressed her emotions like that. wait, these are people on emotions, and the emotions of a child are now like those who live normally in an orphanage, so a good mother will act towards her child. well, i think not. well done honestly. where is the child's father? i don’t know, at that moment i was not at all interested in this man. i was 35 years old. and i decided to give birth to a child, because, as it were, i was already old. well, there was such a story that they connected with bad company, and there was a stabbing. as a result, lyuda was accused and he was deported, firstly, no charges. i was not shown any article i have about this. there is no problem with alcohol.
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yes, there is. she drinks, well, uh, she drinks, of course, but she also has such problems and serious problems, there are binge drinking, sometimes they sell, how long they last, well, in different ways, sometimes there are two months, and the child, which in take this moment of vacation from mom? well, you understand that in order for this to be daily, not the child has to do something with it, but the mother must live differently. well, you agree with me. tell her to hit him. no , she does not beat him, not drunk not sober in this, personally. i didn't see it. and let's listen to what aunt lyudmila says, who has known her since birth.
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firstly, says the person i'm from ufaleya, completely in debt in loans, brought to chelyabinsk, got a job together with her husband and yeon, everything that they built for me there. she had a criminal record there, they didn’t take her anywhere, somehow. i attached her. here she has been working there for several years, that's the whole conversation. let's get to know the neighbors. because if a person drinks for 45 years, you think she will stop drinking, he will actually grow up . grandfather and grandmother there, i don’t know, we need to talk there. they have an apartment there and, in short, they had to leave, so he stayed if she had not kicked them out of apartments. he would have lived this child, grandfather grandmother. a good boy looked after him. and you, as it were, study well, you must give. we
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need more girls. she will be able to turn herself this year, when she drinks, she does not interfere with anyone. it is quiet, it is required that it is not visible or heard. strength of will. she also has a chance. everyone should be given a chance not to be beaten on the head into the pit to the end and sprinkled on top, as i am doing with us now, but we need a chance to always give the child an excellent student is already talking about something. but the fact that his parents turned out so against him, what do you think about it? i think it's all about the apartment, because there are two of them next to one. and another nuance is that mom and dad also had a way of life with a young one, which was not something that was washed down. well, drank luda, do you want to be cured of this addiction? well, once my dad offered me such an option. we arrived at the chelyabinsk regional narcological center. that is, i went into
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the office with my dad, but the narcologist, how are they narcologists psychologists. they are two in one. that is, she talked to me right in front of dad and said that no matter how you spend money. in vain, she herself perfectly fine not to drink, that is, to nothing. and that's what the doctor said. yes, this story you have a strong will. you can quit at any time. it hasn't worked since a certain point. the time has already come for you when you don’t need to honestly come to undergo therapy undergo rehabilitation to change all your views on life habits, then there will be a chance to be blunt. i offer you this help. well , i just don’t have such an opportunity to reduce it somewhere in the clinic or come to be treated, there are a lot of relatives there. ludmila wanted to come to our program, but for some inexplicable reason did not arrive. we realized that in this story, not everything is so simple and carried out. naturally, your own investigation. meet
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the senior editor of our program and margarita kalandarova. so margarita tell us how you started working on this story, the news came out on the internet that luda was beating and torturing her child. after we saw this news, our film crew went to chelyabinsk to conduct their own investigation luda really drinking. she does have a problem with alcohol, but her son. she did not beat, the maximum that happened with lyuda and her son. it was she who shouted and did not always act adequately towards him. yeah, they have such a problem in the family that they, i would say, everyone hates lyuda, mom and dad and sisters, so they came up with the idea of taking the child, because this is the most expensive thing she has, that is, to hit her with something sick this one appeared on the network, and the news appeared on the network thanks to marina, her youngest daughter nastya then
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yes, they themselves turned to the editorial office to get it out, but the news, oh people, there was no chance left to take their child. it is clear that you, in the course of your own investigation, spoke with the director of the children's assistance center. let's listen. in what condition did the child come to them, an acute situation. we don't see it, because we've been working here for a very long time. sometimes we have terrible situations here. in fact, the child does not look offended, not over-developed. even that older than his age studies well, and yo well, my mother came to us with us , hung with everyone, grandparents came here. well they yes with us they did not communicate. they did not give, they communicated only with the child and teachers. yes, my grandmother was my grandfather, twice my mother was there, twice they were, i will not say that i am a family. well , there is the most important conflict between the grandmother and two, night grandmothers in everything. it
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interferes. grandmother is on the side of that youngest daughter. well, that's all. and then, uh, the child suffers. by virtue of his age, the small he really accepts, that is, this situation. here mom took out a loan, which here is an amount that is half a million and yes, her sister promised to pay her. she took it for her and of course. she did not pay anything, and my mother repays this loan or repaid us, she said, i repaid this loan for her. he says if you don't tell aunt nastya it's aunts. rejoice i will say this. i did my best mom and dad here grandpa and grandma, but if they didn’t swear, and mom, not your mom, not your father, not your sister will not get a child, no one will ever give them in life. eh, about this you will be calm, and this child will sit in the orphanage and the director of the orphanage will keep him to the last not to anyone, because this child will bring big pluses and medals to this orphanage
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such a good boy, so you will just take him from you there will be conditions until you undergo treatment for alcoholism and bring certificates and a conclusion. no one will even talk to you. well, let's go, it means that they will force you to encode in another way , you will be asked to encode, you will encode, there it is in clinic and bring them a certificate when we arrived on a business trip and talked with marina and her husband. they set conditions for us. they told us to take lyuda to moscow to a hospital. and then they will go to the program. we actually did just that. after that, they changed their minds about going to the program, despite the fact that we had bought tickets for them in advance at all in the end. we agreed with marina that marina is going to the program, and ludmila's father is a tyrant, but he did not go to our program and his younger sister. nastya also really wanted go to the program, but no one went. it’s just that their family, in principle, loves, but to do everything with someone else’s hands. the most popular tv game
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the first i, siryurik, became the founder of the first ruling dynasty in the country, whose history began with an agreement between the ruler and the people of liz . please tell me, did you speak with ruslan ? well, i once asked him a question. do you want to live with your mom? he says, yes, i want, but not with a drunken mother. we talked with ruslan and this is what he thinks about his relatives. let's see see.
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uh-huh on the weekend, or something, or just like that after work came the paycheck after the paycheck, but for a very long time. i'd rather be completely, of course, but my mother and grandparents. and why i don’t know, they quarreled, they decided it was my mother, when she was still a little girl, my little one goes to bed , i don’t know that they haven’t changed there. mom wants you to come home and grandpa and grandma want us never to come back. wow. i don't think that will work. a boy just now will grow out such
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a situation, and a split psyche. but because you know you pull it from one camps in another. that is, he must be good and agree with his grandmother. he wants to talk about it himself and reconcile both sides, and i looked at you and your faces when this boy talked about this, and i didn’t see a sense of compassion in any of you, because your goal, supposedly. as you say, what to do well for the child, and in order for the child to be well, he tells you in plain text what he needs and as a psychologist. i highly recommend each of you to start treating your heads, because by doing so you injure your children. start healing yourself. look in your mirror. after all, you have become a reflection of your mother, and your child will become a reflection of yourself. i did not interfere with their communication in any way. it's just that i've recently begun to notice that he comes from there with some kind of
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attitude. that is, that's even elementary we went into custody. he already roared at him, apparently the psyche is already disturbed to such an extent to my grandfather, my grandfather said, if you are with your mother, you will not communicate with us. well, why are you a child at all? this is all buzzing, by the way, went to the guardianship authorities, they answered us, who can claim the child? let's see. the unregistered family has never been registered. the prevention system is in sight. they didn’t get there, there were no signals from the school , there were no signals from the place of residence, never that here in our family it often happens that the family, neighbors are beating there, they are signaling the schools are signaling. we're leaving. we are starting to work with the family there was not at all here, that is , the child never entered our orphanage , too, very good, as without signs some kind of violence. that is, he was examined by doctors, as if in the prescribed manner, that is, no questions arose.
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now this is the situation with this family, that is , firstly, a criminal case has been initiated by the investigative committee against the mother, that is, on the fact of ill-treatment . yes, there is an investigation . there, some of the relatives will not be accepted , the consequences of the attention of the relatives will not end, until there will be no clarity on this situation. in general, because mother is not deprived is not limited. that is, she is a legal representative, and she, as it were, is in priority and , accordingly, the child cannot be transferred to anyone, nor under any guardianship absolutely, that is, when there will be a decision there or in refusing to initiate a criminal m-m in punishment, respectively, or, accordingly, some measures should be taken, and then, in fact, the commission on juvenile affairs under the administration will make the decision of the child. i'm not one understand. they say that mother did not beat. you say you didn't beat him. and ruslan says that you killed him, they cheat him. i 'm telling you, don't wind it up.
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this is it, she is anastasia. as i understand her, this is how he generally speaks such words that he had never even spoken about before, if some important details and lives lyudmila told us about, sister anastasia, let's listen to the story that she filmed apartment with a grandmother's room. she rented another room, grandma. well, grandma, obviously. there are some remarks and she beat her this grandmother grandmother wrote a statement. they sued for a very long time, she was forced to take a lie detector. and somehow she got through it. i don't know how. although, well, as if we all know that she really beat this grandmother, ruslan's father. they lived together all the time for how long, apparently, they drank it well. they had some kind of stabbing all the time. that is, i took him to the hospital two or three times. he was there in the hospital saying that it fell on a fork. well, some ideological stories. she cut him. all
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it all ended with the fact that he was in intensive care with a pierced head, either she pierced him, or some friends of her there. in general, he was in intensive care. and after that, he wrote to me again, asked ruslan to send pictures, and then the polygraph disappeared. the polygraph did not show that you stabbed your first husband. well, the fact that on your part there was an assault on a croshidu. i will confirm yes. it was, what can i say about your grandmother. the rudeness was hitting was not against your son's child. again, i will not confirm the blows, but the rude attitude of the slap child perceives this beat at least as constructive. he is an excellent student. you try you feed him. you deliberately didn't starve him. you intend not to create bad conditions for him. no, it could be. just not intentionally drunk. yes , absolutely right. you are completely different drunk. i think that you are rapidly losing credibility, in front of a boy who is now 9
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years old in front of his son, including a man named vil a helped you social lifestyle drunks for boys at this age authorities such a friend is your next friend. he probably does not create e authority for you. as a result, the boy, as it were, lives in a social , psychological, or something situation, his mother thumps . the polygraph shows that yes. you really say that you have a binge when drunk. you are different. you can leave the room and run over. it doesn't mean beat. this is again. the same cruelty. the same aggression. i would give you a chance, but today you score two deuces. i wouldn't even put it, count. very bad ugly unsatisfactory. correct yourself, or i don’t know after this program to make such statements that i don’t have time to go to the clinic, because i need to pull the child out of the orphanage, when they shout in your ears from all sides that without this treatment, no one will have a child for you will give. so,
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say goodbye to him forever, after all, this is a wonderful age for recovery. only i look at the photos, ulyanina is bad without her. well, i gave her a slap and dad came to pick her up, yes, the small lip cried, a broken situation, how it was necessary to hit a child on the head so that her head flew off to the table, how did it happen that you and vladimir began to live when he was still living with tackle, they just set her up against her own mother. i told you girls, you are a prostitute. look, who are you in general a good friend, vladimir, a friend or a lover , transferring our relationship to another plane was a mistake, and you moved to this plane when he lived with whom the woman lived.
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