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and it will be possible to additionally transport about 8 million tons of cargo per year. a new digital system of the station control has been introduced , i will name only one digit for the new system , in fact , 224 turnouts were switched in the single window mode, which is almost 10 times higher than the usual practice. work on such a scale was not previously carried out by the completion of the reconstruction. it became possible to flexibly control train flows and their operational redistribution in four directions. center of azov . black sea basin. urals and siberia. north south corridor. i am carrying out large-scale work on the crimean bridge, which is especially relevant on the eve of the may holidays, this week at the approaches to the crossing from
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the krasnodar territory, 84 additional inspection points will be opened. safely and as comfortably as possible, traffic flows were divided into three lanes for passenger buses, vehicles with heavy workloads and cars with a small amount of luggage, drivers who will be able to pass inspection in just a few minutes. this is an example of a loaded vehicle. uh, how not to put things uh in the car, uh, complicating and making it difficult to get through the screening area. i wanted to make it clear to everyone that things should be packed precisely compactly, thereby simplifying the conduct of inspection activities in oneself and for the employees of the inspection. that is, preferably one large suitcase. well, it might not be one. it can be 2.3 suitcases, which can be obtained much faster and pass through security. benevolent. so no delay
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was absolutely comfortable comfortable and as good as possible. well, the good news for those who prefer to travel by train is the most difficult stages of restoration, the damaged railway part of the crimean bridge is completed, the working movement will be launched ahead of schedule in may. that's all for now, thanks for being with us, and right now the program time will tell. hello live on the first channel program time will tell. i am artyom sheinin and now we will discuss live not at all what it was four hours ago. i thought we would discuss at this time. well , it happens in our work, that you somehow plan that you will have
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a discussion like this. these are all very important current topics, and then it comes, some kind of news, and you understand that well , today and for the next few days, this news will still be one way or another in the top. and the fact that you were going to discuss will have little to do, but i naturally say, but still the call and telephone conversation that took place is pinned with vladimir zelensky and as the chinese side said, the conversation. this took place on the initiative of the ukrainian side, and this news began. walking somewhere like this, well, moscow time at half past two, probably, that is, roughly speaking, 4 hours ago. e is on the agenda that we are discussing in connection with this confrontation in connection with the military confrontation with the global economic one. and that’s all, everything that we are discussing here , some important thing happened, and let’s say a move in this game, then how to evaluate this move, what does it mean for the course of the whole game? well then there is actually possible here, i could now at the beginning of the program e perform almost the entire
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song turn. here is a new turn and the motor roars that it brings us a pool or a ford and you can’t make out and make out, until you turn. here and further there all this is possible and so on. this is certainly a turn of the cat , which can be treated differently, which in any case needs to be discussed. well, simply, because china weighs in this world what it weighs in this world, because china is a participant on the one hand of the global confrontation, and in america, no one hides that this is their enemy from a third party, because china has long stated some of its intentions that it has a settlement plan. and about ukraine on the fourth side, because. well, in general, it’s not very good, it’s clear how to resolve this, given the position of the americans precisely around everything, therefore this news, of course, is in the top and will be the first. well, on that and as they say, stand up specialist
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good reactions about first responder zelensky but, but it is important that in general for him. it's so restrained enough and let's put it this way in a businesslike way, well, naturally in english, because it, well, in general, should look like a report to, uh, curators at the same time. here is a very dryly held meaningful conversation. e, the appointment of the ambassador of ukraine, which, in my opinion, since the age of 21 they have not had an ambassador in china, and the development of our bilateral relations. as it were, everything is very, that is, none of these here, uh, which means that i curated the center of the world 10,000 from them. no. well, he wants to be restrained, and in general, why he was the first to comment so restrainedly, because then she came. eh, it's official. uh, the info is from uh, china, and here's how it sounds, please. during a telephone conversation with volodymyr zelensky, chairman penza said china would send a special representative of the prc government for
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eurasian affairs to ukraine to negotiate with all parties on a political settlement of the ukrainian crisis in the ukrainian crisis. china always stands on the side of the world, china's main position is to promote peace through negotiations dialogue and negotiations are the only viable way out of the ukrainian crisis in a nuclear war . well, taking into account the e translation, by the way, it is very interesting to me. what language was translated into, uh, zelensky, but it doesn’t matter, taking into account the translation, but this, of course, is more than what is said. here in this transcript and how would we understand that maybe the most important practical some nuances remained there, but in my opinion. eh, of course it was. more than just such a statement of intent. a. well, at least because this is my opinion. we all have one now. well, as relevant as uh, impulsive
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emotional reaction, because only 3 hours of this news. well, for example, my first reaction was. e to the fact that this conversation was not spontaneous, but was very well prepared. moreover, i think that probably existed before this conversation. and that's the only reason why he made a kind of road map, which zelensky had to agree to in one way or another. i come from what is pure my assumptions. and now we can only have assumptions, because basically this is all we know, that immediately after this conversation , news came about the appointment of a special representative of china to resolve the crisis in ukraine, comrades likhoe, which for me is evidence that that if this candidacy was already ready, it was agreed and they were ready to announce immediately. well, probably, without hanging up the phone, they began to think, and whoever was appointed there, it means that, well, there was some preliminary work. that is it it means that they knew and prepared for the fact that
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such a special representative, and there was a need for such a candidate, and this suggests that this call, of course, did not happen out of the blue. this is all that can be said for now, and i suggest you . now, here's how to discuss this, well, 3 1/2 hours of news, and here is such a kind of first reaction to such an actual, emotionally impulsive level , to the intuitions on this one, let's go, i immediately remembered such an expression. either a spoiler or a moment, killer that is, when are you you do something, and it very much breaks your plans. it seems to me that the little blue one took zelensky's call exactly. now look at the eve of the counteroffensive that the west is waiting for against the backdrop of the fact that the west is frankly saying that from china we will be rivals in the coming decades, almost enemies, based on taiwan, and so on. and what kind of signal is china sending in this way? well, friends. this is where the west is. this is understandable, but on the eve of the counteroffensive, zelensky calls us and zelensky asks us, apparently,
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some guarantees the second point is very important , also emotional. and there is a scenario in which this may be part of some preparation for some kind of agreements after the counteroffensive, and i see this, again. there is such an expression as a deal through a guarantor , it is conditionally clear that ukraine cannot have guarantors in general, this may be the only one. well, the west, but the west is the master. this is not a guarantor but in the case of at least some kind of diplomatic communication. it seems to me that this guarantor should have in this in this case, the fact that china is appointing its own special representative for russia and the understanding that the ukrainian crisis is part of such a global transformation of international relations suggests that china is declaring its position. yes, without us, uh, resolution of the ukrainian crisis. or at least there is some kind of truce, some kind of agreement, it doesn't matter. now i'm not talking about the form, i'm talking about the essence of the impossible and the third point is very important. listen, well, how will the americans react to this, it seems to me, and now zelensky has such a weak position. again well, this is my deep conviction that
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they can understand him there in the west, in general, it’s not wrong enough, because you will agree, think you didn’t agree, listen, well, here ’s the thing, you understand he’s not what he agreed. i think they were eavesdropping, most likely they are saying, let's call right now and dialing now the problem is something else in that before the counter offensive any communication with china which is a very important point on these. sentences in the face of the seat did not depart one iota from his position. what did he say, uh the territory will be returned to ukraine what did he say? let's mean, uh. we will now try to return everything back there. in the ninety-first year, or at least 2014 , there is no story about the fact that china did not openly support russia, but in fact agreed with this position. as she was, she remains so. and this tells zelensky, first of all, and the west, that china in this case will act in conjunction with us, because china itself is interested in this transformation in these changes. and the last thing, again,
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if we talk about some emotions, like, uh, this will they accept? e in ukraine, but the story is about how you pump up your society with the fact that the west is with us. we ourselves will be able to defeat the russians there with the help of weapons. we have this counteroffensive and so on, and for zelensky for more than a month, in my opinion, for more than a month he could not get through to sit, well, i could be wrong, but from the point of view of diplomacy. uh, the first news is that zelensky wants to talk to the chinese and actually the very fact of this phone call can again be wrong. but it was anyway until arrival in moscow almost two, that is, it is two months. well, in general , this story is rather more even humiliating than how neatly and subtly cd met ursula there in von der lein. yes during this state visit, therefore, in this case, uh, china, as usual, is never in a hurry , but all its decisions, including decisions to pick up the phone, are so well-adjusted that it seems to me that
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they, on the contrary, break the plans of the west and the same zelensky. he wanted to get some political points. now let's see how ukraine will act out this telephone conversation, as it will show, allegedly, that this is some kind of change, that you see china has changed its position there, they will not succeed, therefore, in this case, as i already said. china - this is a mountiller who, well, spoiled this background. sleepy circuitoffensive, well, look, i promised because i will start now , at least the first block with such a first actual emotional reaction is for me. eh, what can i argue and argue with you, but since i promised, i will try to hold on. although you know, that's exactly what you want. but ah but in continuation of what you said in the very promised topical. uh, as if in a key right now, i have already received two reactions, uh , which, in general, are the development of what you are saying, uh, so, uh, to the question of how who will play what zelensky here. i started literally there 10 minutes ago of these words, that he was so kind of reserved and
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very so dry in a businesslike way. now let's go. well, well, this is called came, as if to himself and already went to cheat. so it's already after such a businesslike thing, this means zelensky said that after a conversation with si. and zelensky after the conversation , he was sitting with a pin and said that peace would not be achieved through territorial compromises, the territorial integrity of ukraine should be within the borders of the ninety-first year, and now the question has already begun to arise again. he stated this from a slovenepin, who allegedly told him what he does not say. or is that what he claims. after the conversation, he sits with a pin, as his own position, which he either did not discuss, sits pin, either we don’t know what the sitimpin said to him about it, that is, that cheat that you said is already such an informational one, it has already begun, as it were. well , for now, we continue with this knowledge in mind, how to discuss, what is called here? well, uh , you heard the news, it's 3 o'clock, as if
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all sorts of reaction news are falling, and so on and so forth, your first attitude to what is happening to what happened is not happening. first of all, this call. we should not be surprised or shocked or offended, because it was obvious that he will take place and i agree with nikita in the sense that the sitimp has sustained the necessary pause so that it does not look like. still, like some kind of. well, some kind of uh call that could cause misunderstanding in moscow. that is, he was in moscow on a visit. the pause is sustained. i said in this studio that this call will not only take place by me , that is, it was clear that if china came up with a peacekeeping initiative, well, it is supposed that he will talk with all countries, how it works it is obvious that ursula vonderlein was there, even she said that she was told that dolphin was sitting and talking to zelensky when the opportunity arose for this. let me remind you, indeed, that this is the peak of these emotions. let the zempen call during his visit to moscow. and indeed, this was the narrative he should call. he must call. he
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has to call all day. stump pauses to show that he is an authoritative leader in his own right, but i repeat once again, since the plan was, mirny well, of course, he was supposed to talk with ukraine it's pretty obviously. i think that we also understood this very well, so i repeat here once again this should not shock us, nor offend us. eh, later. i don't see any serious ones yet. plan, but at the same time, china, he really declared himself as a potential peacemaker in this story and by and large, except for him now , there is simply no one to take on this function in world politics, but there is still potential, turkey, but erdogan is now a very difficult election in a physical sense, difficult, therefore he is now not up to peacekeeping on ukraine, therefore, by and large here, if we are talking about some potential intermediaries, if they are possible, then china is probably the only country that suits this role china itself, in fact,
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they like to play such games from the point of view of demonstration of his authority. he is generally quite active in recent years intercepting. well, let's see how he can, but as long as he loves e, it is generally clear that he is actively intercepting from the united states, for example. uh, the role of a moderator or some kind of intellectual leader, especially during the rampa period, when trump refused many things, how would he have the slogan known america will do with a new great one and he left the paris agreement there, that is, he showed the world that he was more cared for in the united states and china, many things were also picked up by the paris climatic aspects. and i say china. you don't want to be there anymore. okay we'll be interested in it. we want to export a number of goods there. we are ready to take it, and china has also begun to demonstrate. here is your behavior as such a shaper of the global agendas. he took, as an example, er, also the policy of the west in terms of lending. uh, developing countries are planting their money. uh, just political influence. it
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was very visible, uh, in africa and other regions. that is, this is also, uh, some attempt to mine. not the line of conduct that used to be characteristic of the united states. that is, china itself also demonstrates its strength to them in that it is learning these technologies and also actively using them, so here, too, of course, china also has quite obvious interest from the point of view. oh, peacekeeping in this conflict, by the way, should not be forgotten either. here is one of the lines of reaction, china, uh, nuclear catastrophe. this is the end of humanity. china is naturally not interested in this conflict escalating into a global nuclear war. this is also one of the obvious goals of china's mediation, that is, he also does not want to become, uh , a victim of global history, if this conflict really turns into a nuclear catastrophe, and such a probability, alas,
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to put it mildly, is not zero today, well, of course a question. and what will it lead to? uh, there are really quite a lot of questions here, because it seems to me that so far this will not lead to anything, and indeed, now this call also looks so strange enough, because everyone is discussing the potential entry of ukraine, uh, and in this regard. well, even here it seems to me that zelensky is in an uncomfortable situation. that is , xi jinping calls him, they say, as in general from the point of view of the world. and at zelensky, but the agendas are pushing him in the back, the united states there is an offensive offensive, where his offensive is still not there, and he is forced to sit here explaining about the peace plan. when, in general , everyone is waiting for him to launch an offensive, which, to put it mildly, is for peace negotiations. well, they are not similar in any way, and in this regard, now for ukraine, talking even about the world, it looks absolutely impossible. just like for the united states, they always say europeans. they say that without a strategic defeat, we will not go over their peace negotiations with russia. here and there plan to even tell them, there is nothing to say, when they call all day, they don’t ask, in general, are you
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ready to discuss something. they are preparing an offensive, that is, there is a plan. i think this kind of call he puts zelensky in a rather awkward position. i agree with you absolutely that they really are such uh. well, let's say many of these items. they are. well, as if from the series of mr. obvious, but at the same time, in order to realize the extreme point, it is necessary to pass. uh, to the penultimate one, yes, and it's not clear how here fits in and the counternation on the strategic offensive and so on. and at the same time, this is all happening right now against the backdrop of many more talk about this counteroffensive. well, please, i’m directly making a titanic effort, because only you say something interesting about what you want and clarify and develop and so on, but as they say, gave word. hold on artyom igorievich, look, and i'm also trying to put together a mosaic for my vision. and now we are all just putting together a mosaic, because it is so semi-emotional intuitively. and here it is, here it is pouring
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in. and the security council is obviously not the best for ukraine, we will be obvious in the security council a lot of things are decided on the sidelines. this is the most interesting story of the arrival in new york, not that here they are in formally each on purpose, but how the delegation fit each other. i know how these scenarios play out. they tell you that you are a bastard and a scoundrel, then they say, well, nothing more. everything is fine. everything is fine. and in these words , something that turned out to be very big impact on the publication of the last two days of publication, for example, in the western media angry at the two camps. some say from may 1 to may 9 there will be a huge breakthrough from ukraine, everything is great. it’s great, but others say, even if there is a hypothetical possible breakthrough and someone advances 150-200 m, then in any case it must be said that the conflict must be frozen and the number of those who talk about a frozen conflict is growing and growing is an amazing part that the most aggressive britons today are beginning to talk about
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that a certain balanced assessment is needed in freezing the conflict, and practically no one said that it was necessary to return to the border in the ninety-first year, on the contrary, the vast majority of votes in the west would support the idea of exactly another idea, namely that it is necessary to respect the territorial integrity of russia in order to avoid a global catastrophe. this is all happening against the backdrop of the grain deal, which is now failing a huge devash of european countries, the guys say. what to do with our farmers. we have a sowing the season begins, how will we sell and sell it all, and against this whole background. the caller is still trying to talk about something. and now the nuclear button is the nuclear answer. the fact is that a lot of respected. the media, including western media, they say that yes, we are now not only somewhere in the minute we are in a second from the war, because the only trump card that has now remained in the western world has not been exchanged is the poles and if the poles, who are now very active just like the romanians
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who will be ready to transfer their manpower to the fields of action. this will certainly lead to a nuclear strike, as westerners say. and on all this , the phone is picked up, not because someone has not seen his calls for 2 months. and now he is being explained a very simple strategy for the development of the modern world. there is a strategy when screwing, when there are both sides that win for zero sum. here he is now offered a very simple alternative to try to play zero sum for him personally, so that he could somehow save their own skin and yes, a huge number of analysts are now saying simple things to the passage of time. if this person remains conscious and alive, then he will begin to tell and write memoirs about how he was led, what a puppet he was and how he was really recruited, molded, and so on. this is not beneficial to anyone, because it will be too much to start writing such memoros. he definitely won't be alive. absolutely right, they won't add it. he them never so and the last
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factor that i think is also interesting. this is the start of the selected company in the united states of america, you need to start with something, but it's interesting, well, you can't praise yourself. no one will praise you with titanic efforts. i am with each of you, but i refrained from developing, so to speak, from disputes from counterarguments, and so on. well, this iron airborne character. but, accordingly, uh, gratitude for this allowed themselves. here are a couple of comments. because we removed this first emotional such actual reaction. and actually, what pushed. e me you eh? in my first these assessments, but really i paid attention. now, when i was listening to you, i once again went over in and in the chinese, so to speak, version of what to talk about and even in the reaction, and the ukrainian side, which is surprising for the ukrainian side, there is no word of russia at all. please note that we are talking about a telephone conversation two uh, that means, uh,
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like a person who is talking about a certain conflict in which russia is involved, which zelensky declares in all sins and the west accuses gray-haired pin of all sins and acts as a kind of peacemaker, while offering his plan the word russia is publicly not chinese, not ukrainian, which is especially noticeable in this regard, does not call this an important indicator. that is, something like this even keeps these cheerful lads what is called, well, in the minds, because here's another they brought me now the reaction of the now press secretary sergey nikiforov well, you remember, well, this is, uh, like the colors that this is the verbal palette that they usually have there here is russia which ruined it all. now listen to zelensky's press secretary sergei nikiforov an exchange of views took place. the head of china has already personally presented the chinese peace plan. volodymyr zelenskyy spoke about his form of the world
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, it is nice that there are some points of intersection. this concerns the non -use of nuclear weapons, which we talked about, as well as the fact that it is impossible to take state nuclear facilities hostage , and sergei nikiforov added that we can start developing a dialogue from them. it was an introductory lecture, for which no marks are given. let's see what he's special envoy with. china in this case will come. i understand that he will come to get to know our position in more detail. we are very customized lens bunnies. it's just that bunnies are just here, and where are all these injectives, that these are not such words, just very peaceful, these very ones, so there is something to talk about here, and i absolutely agree with you e that we should not have, no reason for any, as you said, there are grievances or something like that. reasons for something means too much attracting the same yeah, he put it in a corner there, which means that something is everything, of course
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, thinner. everything is of course more complicated, because this is a very difficult situation not for the ukrainian conflict, but for the whole world, and therefore now , uh, remember how in this uh, my favorite shots of 12 chairs, when it goes, it means that this is the most grandmaster along the board tun tun tun. here we are now, it means that everyone is approximately in this scene, we think it's just another move on the board, which is made without giving it an unnecessary purpose. it's certainly not just e4 but in general, it’s also not that the end of the game, but only an interesting middle, so now think about advertising in advertising and then we’ll return. in the world of a movie filmed in space, there is a russian woman. there's always a test of strength when not being challenged in a movie.
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and discuss uh news. e, which i think is still present today. uh, like one of the top in the news stream. i think that tomorrow it will be present in it, and which in general. well, anyway, regardless of whether it will give something or not? is that anything i'm talking about the assidepin's call about the conversation with the dolphin zelensky on zelensky’s call, regardless of whether it will give, it will give something or not, this is such an important development or an important move. here in this complex, as it were, intricacies of the party. as for where this conflict will move, because it still has to move somewhere, that is, something should still happen on different sides, there are different versions, both rhetorical and practical. where do they want it to go, how they want it to be resolved, and at the same time, in general, no one wants to bring this to a nuclear conflict. at the same time, everyone needs to save face. and there are a lot of other interests that we have talked about here many times, and therefore, in this
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sense, of course, everyone is now watching. by this move and now, as it were, in many capitals , everyone is sitting like this and thinking what it means, but we don’t know and i don’t think we will find out in the near future. although we can assume that, given the fact that the dolphin is sitting, he spent quite a lot of time. in moscow, talking with vladimir putin, what are some parameters of what, uh, about what and from what position did sizipen speak with zelensky? they are here were discussed and more or less, as it were, i understand less, i understand er. from what position zelensky was talking now, we are talking about this later, but here you were talking about our reaction here, our reaction, uh, expressed through the mouth of maria zakharova and it seems to me very logical and uh, given the moment, but it is very such, as if correct , please. we note the readiness of the chinese side to make efforts to establish the negotiation process. we see a broad consonance of our principled approaches, while the kiev regime is demonstrating its rejection of any
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of sound initiatives aimed at a political and diplomatic settlement of the ukrainian crisis, the ukrainian authorities and their western curators have already demonstrated their ability to wind up peaceful initiatives. well, in general, i don’t say anything bad , so there’s no need to apologize, but i apologize to maria vladimirovna just in case that i, well, sort of interpret her words. well, as it were, since this is an official statement, in principle, what maria vladimirovna zakharova says. she says the following. well, as it were, dear chinese comrades. you, of course, you flag in hand you try. it's kind of, well, important. but our experience suggests that negotiating with these lads is, as it were, such a story. well, to put it mildly, difficult, given that the lads are not very capable of contracts. we can say that they will be more capable of negotiating with you, but our experience is, as it were, so-so, and as if two lads knew. uh, such talkative
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ukrainians, right here, one last night, and the other today. here they yelped. well, so they blathered out of inertia, as if every day something needs to be blathered on, but now, they didn’t know that such news would come this afternoon, and each of them will become just an illustration of what maria zakharova is talking about chinese comrades guys, comrades, you want to negotiate with these guys. well, how would you listen, well, for example, they, uh, foreign ministers kuleba, are called, please. u i. uh, we welcome any peace plan, no matter who they are willing to discuss any peace plan from, that does not lead to a freeze of the conflict or to ukraine surrendering territories to russia if the president of brazil is ready to build a coalition of countries that strive for peace based on these two principles, then kiev is ready for discussion. well, okay, that is, we are ready to discuss any peace plan. and well, only on our terms, and everything else, as it were, does not suit us. in principle, you need to understand that, in principle, this conversation about
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with zelensky is a conversation. here with people who until now until today carried this. it is clear that these are ukrainian dividers and figures to them. tomorrow they will give a command, they will carry something else, but, in general, this such a tough conversation should be, after what the kuleba says. well, for example, after what danilov says, he says this, of course, about the macron, but you understand that he is talking about the macron, who started talking about the peace settlement. having returned from china, that is , in a sense, when he is, well, a little rude to the macron, and he understands that he is also indirectly addressing the chinese, and yet this morning the ball. you don’t know that the conversation will probably take place, like this. mr. macron is deeply mistaken if he believes that he can act behind the backs of the ukrainian people and potentially bargain with crimea, the macron can discuss peace agreements with russia. when it comes to relations between russia and france, without
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ukraine, no one will negotiate anything, i suggest the macron refuse , in part to france, he can do this. let him give bordeaux or another region of france to another state, well, translated from the language of danila , this is what he is talking about. that we are the same thing, that danilov is just that a little smarter and smarter, because he pretends to be a diplomat. after all, as a matter of fact. not both, they say, the next ukraine is ready for any peace talks, but only on our terms. we are for dialogue. but only if it is a dialogue about what we want a dialogue about, and so on, but i remind you of this last night and this morning yes, and maria zakharova and actually about this telephone conversation. says about the same thing, that we are glad that the chinese want to try to do something to try to do something. what can be done with these guys? well, no matter how we kind of don’t know, it seems to me that the chinese, after the story with motorsich, don’t know what to do with this at all, how to negotiate, uh, about something and count on the fact that you won’t be
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thrown. forgive me for aging, but the chinese are still a story, motor sich is probably considered fairly, as such well , commercial unscrupulous by the ukrainian regime, but this was not a situation where? in general, this mode itself so, well a little overstrained now the second moment very important. well, i'm deeply convinced that china is great you understand that ukraine is not subjective, that is, when he does not talk to zelensky , he does it correctly. as the leader of a global power. yes, such an emerging polycentric world, but the understanding that there are some theses messages that he says repeats. to be precise, yes, because, in fact, he just voiced it through the handset. the same , uh, peace plan. and this is none. will he give concrete steps, because ukraine is not a subject and the third very important point is exactly the same, i am deeply convinced that china, uh they perfectly understand that in this case the west does not put on the chinese peace plan,
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in general, any strengthening, informational diplomatic. god forbid, and the economic of china, but you must agree. uh, at least some point or some percentage of the implementation of the chinese peace is the chinese peace plan. this is another huge blow to the west. the west will never tolerate it. here we are, when we return to history, and whether the call was agreed or not, probably, another matter was agreed, which, well, i can be mistaken for western curators zelensky. they said, okay, call so another thing, that if there was an opportunity, it seems to me, and for them really. uh, there would be an option where they said no. that would be why zelensky was held hostage, because he said i want to talk to the chinese. if only he didn't call after that. i'm sure the chinese would say, friend you there, uh, told reporters there all about the fact that you, in principle, are ready to accept any peaceful initiatives. let them there , uh, with some principles of yours
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disagree, but you don't even try and the west, it seems to me, well, i didn't really want this call to take place, as i said, because any appeal to another center of power. well, that is, to your enemy too. let not the same as russia in the strategic perspective, even more so for him it is a sign of weakness. it's even your puppet calling him, but it's not very good. you still explain me, i still didn’t understand your position, but still, in your opinion, zelensky called against the special desire of the curators, yes, or he called with permission curators, uh, or with the curators' blessing. uh, because then this is the answer to the question gray pin talking on the phone. called him zelensky talked, in fact, with whom? not with the permission of permission, most likely connivance. let him call ok, at least someone has some space, and zelensky can explain this to his friends. well, i have to at least show that we and china in china are not completely for russia, if i don’t call him, everyone will understand that russia plus china is plus, india is plus there
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brazil and so on. that is, it is here. eh , at such a tactical level, there were considerations, and then in this at your tactical level of considerations, i must draw the conclusion that you then consider this call by zelensky from the point of view of this logic? well, such an almost empty one . absolutely for china, this is an exceptional empty one. listen, when everyone knows about this world initiative and you'll forgive me, there's just stubborn and stubborn and talking about the borders of the ninety-first year to china there is a french ambassador. and in france he lays out about the fact that crimea is, in fact, historically russia , he is a comrade in france, the maonin has already said that this is his private opinion, the embassy record. i removed it from this very site. therefore, in this case, uh, for uh, china, this conversation, it seems to me, is incredibly beneficial. e. well, not that the stocks went up there. well, china already shows that even the puppet of the west, aga, seeks to talk with us for ukraine -
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this is important, because if zelensky announced a desire to at least somehow discuss something with the chinese, but did not if the calls were well, for the chinese , another proof that what to talk to him for the west well, well. let zelensky call, that is, in other words , the ball, in other words, yours, here is the point of view already in response to my, so to speak, questions, if i understand it correctly. you, uh, tell me that one way or another, tactically for zelensky and strategically for china, these are more like pr to score points in front of the world community in his case, that is, that is, it’s not moving anywhere. and all the more so, if the west really had at least some possibility that they would agree on something or there, at least it would be some kind of information, they would not let me call whenever they did, so this is my guess. sorry, i'm rambling here. yes, these are predictions. and it seems to me that this call is what china has now received. yes, it says that very soon there will be a counteroffensive. i'm
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linking these things directly. i would i would agree with this version and really the question is how this conversation and mirny dialogue and talk about a potentially peaceful dialogue, and this here is the silkiness of the ukrainians, a is consistent with the talk about the imminent counter-napa. and this is a separate interesting important question. it can be discussed, but in this logic of yours, under which i have a basis , only one factor does not fit for me, which, as i have already said. if it was just a pr conversation, then it is unlikely that the chinese, under this pr conversation, would have agreed and prepared, uh, the candidacy of comrade likhoe, special representatives in ukraine. i understand that he is a personnel diplomat with great experience. and for him. basically being sent on a mission that is impossible. this, in principle, is, as it were , normal, as if the party had said it was necessary . the komsomol answered yes. but here's what's interesting, what is it? not just, as if a certain
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representative. i immediately as soon as it was announced after this call. i immediately understood that this person was preparing for this, which means that this conversation was planned, for example, also in prc. but here's the track record. uh, dashing, he is very revealing. this man, who out of 13 of his appointments, not counting 14 of today's half, one way or another, connected with the soviet union and the russian federation and in general, as if with this space, that is, it is really, well, uh, the highest e qualification, which is, uh, and in general worked a lot, uh, in russia and many people say that this is gay , this is, so to speak, actually a person who goes there, i hope almost from the russian position, but in fact i don’t hope, honestly globally and uh, who appoints special representatives who can afford to say we are appointing on what conflict
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only a world power and in this sense the special representative of china is another proof of status without coordinating positions with china. no matter how you want , you will not succeed, therefore, if it still comes down to the fact that he will represent our interests. i would, i just think that any chinese diplomat of this level always represents only chinese interests and exactly to the extent that they somehow coincide with ours at the present moment. will represent ours, i'm just talking about what you tell me your logic they justified that, in itself, the appointment by china well, as it were, the patrimony of the west of its special representative, yes, and also a person who , at the same time, well, in general, so many things went through this , yes, this, that is, we will appoint there, after all, well, they have, probably, the former ambassadors to ukraine, for example, they could appoint a former message, that is, we will appoint whoever we want to go where, however we want. and this is
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an important story, let's move on. and, of course, they are sitting like this now in washington , uh, despite the fact that there is probably a certain degree the issue of coordinating this call with the americans. with whom is it agreed and at what level is it agreed? i don't know, it seems to me that kirby approximately found out, at the same time, approximately, when we all found out, here's how he reacts. we welcome the news that a phone conversation has taken place between president xi and zelensky, which is good, but will it lead to any meaningful movement towards a peace plan or proposal? i don't think we know it now paradoxically and again don't be offended by maria vladimirovich paradoxically kirby in a sense says, well, the same thing that maria zakharov says kirby in general, says, not well, the call and conversations in itself. there it is, in general , not bad, but not very clear. where all this can move is another matter, that maria zakharova and john kirby have different reasons
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for saying this, because we are talking about the fact that they are not ukrainians capable of negotiating, and in no case are these ukrainians and treaties capable, and kirby says, so, well , i don't know where this is going, because kirby has his own story, a statement of his and representatives of the administration in which he works, but about the fact that there is no ceasefire at all. perhaps, and you understand the words about the dialogue about the world about everything, now this is impossible without at least talking about a ceasefire and he said so, not only kirby spoke like that on the breaks. blinkin. that is why now i agree with you here. why now for americans? this, of course, is such a very similar story. yeah, well, like, here's a blinken idea for you, the idea of a ceasefire may seem tempting, but it won't be fair to the nasty world for a second and a person who is, so to speak, a puppet of these people calls, and sidepin and then says that yes,
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they talked about the world blah blah blah or someone imagines in today's crazy world that it is possible, the truce is an ideologue without cessation fire is impossible, then. uh, that's what the americans are about, your idea agreed is not agreed, if it is agreed with them, then why and voluntarily or involuntarily and what is it all about for them? first, probably, it is important now to agree. if there was an agreement, believe me, they dispersed, and they will be very much dispersed in the media and would say that this will be their huge victory , but in this case, then, uh, mr. si would simply not pick up the phone. it would be a huge defeat. they understand very well how these people are treated in general from the point of view of subjectivity in china, this is very important. very important. with whom you are talking and the second one is already talking about something, you can agree with everyone , we just understand that any person who is involved in the negotiation process. he always knows who's the coolest the negotiator is a child of three years. no, because he sets his goal stubbornly, goes to it,
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because he wants this ice cream. and now let's you can distract candy talking. a you can, but now let's switch with you, but this is a different approach. here i would like to pay attention to this approach in order to be able to formulate now. the goals of the task, the main thing is to understand who is pursuing what goal. uh-huh after all , we have formulated our goal, their mother does not refuse. we can be accused of stubbornness. in anything. we have our national interests. this is the denotification of demilitarization, and we are well aware that this should be followed by the results of our own - understandable, as we see it for ourselves, china has a completely different agenda now. again , i'll pay attention to china, it's just about jointly. they finally felt the turning point that occurred in the mood of mankind, when more states began to say. listen, there is a minority and a majority. and this topic she began to accelerate very
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strongly. and now look, after all, the majority of the world's population in pure numbers should have a shepherd and you know why, but because they are used to him, everyone is used to the fact that there is a kind of shepherd called the great west america , these comrades and against this background , respectively, we perfectly understand the position of ukraine, is it changing? no, we will never make any concessions, we will not fight to the end , we hold our citizens hostage at a high level, some completely different position was officially voiced. and here for some reason. and right here the doctrine is completely changed. we're talking about the fact that now, uh, we need to change some strategy. after all, we understand perfectly well to change the uh, impasse. you just need to find some workarounds for this impasse. does china need it? first of all, with one simple goal, china, as a peacemaker, gets very good chances. first of all, including economic political ones, but china still allows you to take a flag and say something new. togo, the majority has a temporary leader
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, it's true, it appears just like that leader. what are the results about what does not have any mandates of negotiations, but a very important point is who you appoint as an envoy. you can nominate. you are right, absolutely anyone, a person who has worked in moscow for 10 years, yes, and he knows everything about our ins and outs, he has studied a little what the russian character is. he knows how stubborn we can be too. and when we go to our goals. here we can, that is, as it were, he will be the special representative of china a on the ukrainian crisis with an understanding of what can and cannot be achieved from the russian clearly understands where the edges of what is permitted are, in contrast to the insane, and western comrades who are trying to solve any issues for us. chinese. they never do that. they wedding is very calm, they say they pour you tea and at the moment when you go to the toilet, they decide everything. right now. it seems to me that the chinese will gradually add this tea and look at how the reaction will be. the fact is that any conflict has its own. decision it can not be eternal, so as not to say
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today in washington washington is fine understands that the model of the military world is beneficial to me. and in order to talk about the criteria for victory, you can declare victories, but in order to move on to real victories, russia , torn to shreds, needs to rebuild the world on a completely military footing. not only america not only britain and france the world. needs to be re-qualified. that is, in other words , developing our conversation with nikita sergeevich , you tell me that the chinese and the americans. in a sense, it is also tactically advantageous for this conversation to take place now. yes , it was very important for them to push him to this agreement, because everyone understands that this conversation did not take place without their knowledge , perhaps, and since it took place for hell, then , it seems, they, as it were, are also in front of the whole world, which is all sick of it. they don't seem to mind either. obviously, you can't force someone to do it. well , the americans can’t take any steps, they probably know how, but they have mastered it very clearly. what is supremacy. they stick very clearly when someone has it. it turns out that they are those leeches who know how to
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do this and very well. and so of course at the grassroots level, they pushed him very hard, but they can't push all of them in any way. and here is a very important phrase that was, and from the comments of ukrainian sources, the conversation is by and large like a lecture by a professor, a professor who explained to you not only his position, but roughly explained you. what is the current state of affairs in the world and what are you worth about now, as it were, in the development of that, a lecture is not a lecture, perspectively, not perspectively , empty is not empty, pure pr, or is there some kind of it. so to speak, content side for me was very indicative, and you just mentioned this, too, for me, a very indicative reaction. and the turkish reaction is turkish, which came from the lips of the official representative of the president of turkey , ibrahim kolin. e, who is also, uh, he just said that let's mobilize. this is for me, this is also quite intuitive
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after all. eh, the turks, how do not treat them, they are very subtle, like a nation that understands the trade. they feel very subtly where there is gesheft, where there is uh profit, and even if they start, all of a sudden so actively to say that let's let's think. i, perhaps they feel that somewhere on the horizon some kind of reconciliation loomed, and then it is necessary somehow, well, to stand closer to this reconciliation. in contrast, by the way, from the europeans, who, it seems to me, you also mentioned them. i don’t know what to do now, because they are all gray especially against the background of the trip. pina to moscow everything. er, pretty. well, just like they are smart, they do nothing, they said that china cannot be an intermediary, therefore, for now, at least at least they didn't bring me any european reaction. well, you know, i would start by saying that the picture of what is happening is the picture of the world in the eyes of the west, it seems to me that it
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has changed quite a lot over the past few months. why because a few months ago. uh, the west presented this whole story, as a progressive humanity, which is fighting against e isolated russia, which actually, uh, has no allies and supporters now even officially, if you listen to the comment there is already a barrel. they they openly talk about the fact that the world is entering a phase, and a new bipolarity of a new two- bloc split. this means that they already openly perceive russia not as an isolated country. but as a country that has at least china as a serious partner, and together with china, this is a completely different story and three-quarters of humanity. literally barrel literally. the day before yesterday i just said that it was urgent. to rush to other regions and drag them by the legs from russia to china, even there they are going to
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allocate money, because china, russia, according to the version barrels can form this new bloc, which will become an alternative to, uh, the west , and in this regard, by the way, uh, returning to this conversation. it’s clear that the west is still trying to put pressure on china in the sense that a comrade is sitting in prison, are you sure that you need to form this bloc. maybe stop before it's too late. yes, it's not too late, because you understand that this is a confrontation with us. if you form a block, well, we have a blog formed. that is, you definitely want to play this game, uh, or maybe be uh, there is an opportunity to stop and in this regard, the constant calls for dialogue to talk constant trips there. uh, europeans of various calibers, who began immediately after xi's visit to moscow, calls to call zelensky. besides, yes, they actually show in this regard. well, as far as turkey is concerned, i think that, after all, uh.
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well, to be honest, it is unlikely that turkey expects that something will happen there sooner, turkey well, in fact, as i said, turkey really was the only one for a long time, so to speak, near western the country that was. actually. e this mediator. we remember, at least, it's already winter and was doing negotiations in istanbul. here and there, the plan is not only applications. what negotiations were like we remember the first phase of the conflicts took place precisely on the territory of turkey and turkey, while, as it were, rightly noted, they really did not forget about their benefits. this concerns the grain deal, which we have discussed many times from the point of view of turkey's interest. this also concerns the supply of russian oil through turkey to the european space. this also applies supplies of fuel oil, which jumped sharply. in march, it’s just colossal and it’s clear that turkey just sells its fuel oil to europe and consumes russian gasut
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and actively earns from it. therefore, i think that turkey would not want to share, uh, the laurels and bonuses of this peacekeeping with china, but i think she also realizes that china is still much more significant. uh, the player in this regard and uh, i think turkey is just more worried. i don't think that turkey realizes that something is going to happen now, well, no happens, well, no peacekeeping. how do you understand now objectively? well , it’s impossible, we are all really waiting for this offensive, it will be even without understanding, in general, how will it end? so what about the peace talks now? i spoke about this in this regard, if the sip called for lensky, there zelensky had more arguments about 2 weeks ago. now he has nothing to say. everything, you know, that he is already starting tanks there and cooking. actually. here, actually, this is just a really very important argument, about which you anyway everyone has already said that this is the whole call, and it happens in the background. e talk about
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the program time will tell, we continue to work live, really talk about a possible dialogue. and here is zelensky’s call to the sidimpin and talk that there are some peace plans, there are, and so on. this everything is important. it's all needed, it's part of big politics, but a counteroffensive, like this. well, it's a real story on earth, which, well, can't possibly not happen. he doesn't go anywhere. although
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interesting words were said today that make us relate in a new way. well, what is the military-strategic meaning of this counter-offensive, and an interesting thing was said by the first deputy secretary of defense of the united states of america, katherine hicks, i noticed, if you do not pay attention, listen to her carefully. pentagon draws valuable lessons from the ukrainian conflict in case of a conflict with china, there are a number of advantages that we have received from the conflict in ukraine for a possible confrontation in the pacific region, drawing on the ukrainian experience, the pentagon is insisting that the us enter into long-term contracts with arms manufacturers. we are not trying to balance between two theaters of confrontation. we have a clear strategy focused on china. eh, when i read this today. uh, i wrote in my telegram that, well, it seems to me that at that moment in kiev they should have been a little upset somehow, because they considered themselves the beloved wife of the master, and now mrs. catling tells them that the guys
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are actually, well, how would this be such an erroneous story. we have one kind of strategy. and this is where and in some i do not overestimate the importance of the first deputy minister of defense. i don't think she does much. but since she says it out loud, then this is the idea that this is no longer the main thing, huh? oh, and it was and is. it's still china here, roughly speaking, we train on cats. it's not going anywhere. and it sounds now, does it mean something, or is it just such rhetoric? well, in general, now in, let's say, so in the media. yes, in the western information space, there is another wave of stories about negotiations about some kind of agreements about the fact that, ah, ukraine should give some kind of scenario in case of an unsuccessful counteroffensive, that is, things that until recently were not exactly taboo . well, we didn’t think about it, we supply weapons, ukraine is ready. so you
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must demonstrate the results in the information space. this is what i attribute the proximity of this counteroffensive to, more and more articles began to appear in authoritative magazines, actually newspapers. here, again , bloomberg is the same who says that er, well, firstly, all sorts of results may not be quite. maybe we don't like the good ones. and if this is the case, then, just in case, the main thing for us is china, here i am, look at this connected. that is, uh, yes, the contour song is the main one a basket of eggs is not the main thing there, and just in case, anyway let's not forget that china, again, how much e. these statements will affect the fact that abrams will not be put there or there, uh, f-16 and so i don’t know. i honestly can't say in the formula. eh, this one. uh, how important such statements are, but the very fact that everyone is in anticipation of this counteroffensive and creating , as i said, there are many parallel scenarios in which this will be normal. and it will be ok. if it will be
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really bad, then, yes, it didn’t work out with ukraine. we have a contour, the most important confrontation is with china and, most importantly , we are ukraine. they use it directly, as a lesson in order to gain experience, they trained , they gained. uh, they simulated the situation and so on, but for ukraine, of course, uh well, for the nazi authorities, of course, first of all, such dismorality is very big. yes, in general, such things do not reach. listen with the society there, i doubt you at all, what uh says, there is the media ukrainians generally quote some kind of infix for them, well, but the media does not quote anything there for the population, it doesn’t matter, but these, probably, that’s all there, yes. well, well, for zelensky, this is a dismoral, very big and, in fact, therefore, really , on whom is zelensky’s political future and the political future, the historical future , probably even ukrainian statehood, which, again, as i say, and with it one gets the impression that already everything has long been clear to everyone, even the fields, it is clear, even
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hungarian, it's clear they, in principle, directly declare this. it is clear, actually to the americans. just americans until this, er, as they say, inn portfolio will be. uh, i get it, they'll use it, but at what point will this briefcase be without a handle. this is directly stated, and of course, for e zelensky before the counteroffensive. well , to put it bluntly, this morale boost is not very good. and now just about the counteroffensive, about morale and so on. i still, uh, occasionally think about so that this is a whipping up of counter-simple talk that we all say. well, well, of course, it will definitely be, and so on. i thought about it from time to time. and this talk about counter-nasts is not just an argument. well, they are in order to shift some political processes in their country to negotiate not to negotiate, you understand? well, it often sounds great. here i am reading the last days of an example of the verdunen battle of the first world war, in which hundreds of thousands of people died, and
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no one advanced. no, well, like practically nowhere and they somehow scare themselves a little with this verdeon. what could be this talk of a counteroffensive. it's actually quite a bit. well, an attempt to shift the conversation about the search for applications somewhere, or you think that there are no options, and they will definitely go. well, i don’t really understand military issues, unlike you, but as for intuitively. i think that u already. it seems to me that this offensive cannot take place, because, well, they have already said so much about it , they put the equipment, prepared konstantin vasilyevich, but the question really arises in the fact that, perhaps, again , if all this preparation began, uh , they gave equipment, trained ukrainian crews, it seemed obvious to the west that it would be successful, then perhaps now the expectations turned out to be , well, or become a little more uh, so reserved. and if so, then
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indeed. at the very least, you need to, uh, come up with next steps. that is, if there is obviously no success, then what will happen next. here and here, of course, you need to somehow come up with some combinations in case if here, as you say, there will again be a fixation of this situation. well, in short, if there is no tangible serious military success on the part of ukraine, then the question arises. and what will happen next? that's because we also understand that the forces of ukraine are not endless. so we constantly talk about the fact that we will still carry out an offensive, we will still carry out an offensive. that is , in this regard, around this offensive, a lot of bets have been made. and if there is an understanding that we may not be so effective, we need to think about what will happen next, and then already, perhaps, there really are some conversations, dialogues, peace plans. after this attack. this will become much more relevant. actually, why am i
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asking about this, as about a possible one, just, well, the subject of an offensive body is not an offensive, because when it is said that in general the main thing for us. uh, the military theater there is, as it turns out, that's the counteroffensive. well, in general, there is little for them to decide on the idea, or is it just that. here it is from the point of view of american history. she is generally why and for whom is this story? she is very understandable. now there is a scenario for the organization of technical processes that are in ukraine, we are well aware that any process of preparation for curtailment. they should be aimed at the fact that you are someone who has not lost ketchin in money. hicks is the person who has excellent processes - this is translated into ours, as if the language of such yards is preparation for blowing off our feet or that we will dump it, we will make a very good face with some of the best games. that is, you seriously, do you think they're getting ready? yes, yes, yes, i'll tell you why i think so. eh, the fact is that e is still a very important moment and
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the last thing that america is not allowed to do is related to the elections. just deny it. yes, they will pass by themselves, they will not pass by themselves. they passed in the twentieth year and manipulated well done well done and that's it. great. now the situation is changing . a lot of money has already been spent on every projectile that is supplied, someone made it and from someone else. god forbid one of ours is very bad and now united the states of america, when they say that they are gaining experience , they first of all understand, and what more is needed for the front for the war with china, now only the lazy does not say that it is necessary to create a new industrial system in the united states of america that would robotize the production system weapons to a simple question given by the layman. and why do we need these weapons, and the americans are responsible. let it lie in warehouses, because we still have a real enemy, and we tried it, and now we know exactly what industries we need develop. after all, you remember literally two or three years ago. we didn't talk about how much demand there would be. they were hypothetically valuable, but as a year passes their value increases precisely
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in terms of utilitarian origin, the united states of america today recognizes that they are, and not the largest production. even these small drones , china still produces more clearly in terms of missiles. well, now they are looking at what role this plays on the battlefield, i think. so, and most importantly, yes in absolute right, they looked at what territory they can now hold with such forces. i’m talking about the united states of america now. i’m not talking about ukraine, of course, they saw that all the capacities that they had involved are enough to hold the line, and the counterattack, and the counterattack becomes just a kind of flag. he will be the so-called imaginary victory here he will definitely be , it will be a very bloody big bonya, but they will argue this counteroffensive as an already manifested victory or a certain stage that will allow them to talk further. well, what's next, but here we guaranteed we did it, and then we need to gradually start new fires, in order to shift the point of view, we need provocations in taiwan to
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talk, guys. stop. stop. we will deal with you. first of all, we need to see that the neighbor has it, we obviously have it and what the hex is talking about, of course, one money about the money that the biden clan has not yet finished. they must now be cut in time for the remaining year, because you understand very well that there is no chance that he will live. this year anything is taken next time. hmm really interesting point of view on what really is. i don't know why she says it out loud, but it's a very important story, how would we be there. well, here, they have such an army there, there are 800 bam and so on and so forth, but in general, when you look at how these hostilities are going . and that now these new kamikaze drones have become e, used with which, well, in general, it’s very complex and difficult for us, but considering. how many have the chinese here really scratch your reputation advertising on channel one, the western countries of nato , they arranged a training ground from ukraine and dragged us
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? cinema one tv represents the key to a successful walk from your personal well-being, vanity , irritability, excessive modesty can only prevent you from thinking about something good now. we continue to work live. well, geopolitics is geopolitics, there is the development of these complex trends. who with whom? how to negotiate counter us. but there is another line, such an economic confrontation, which does not go anywhere and apparently parallel political and military-political development. it's like a sanctions story. here's one of
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the representatives of the white house, who, well , as a matter of fact, he's already laying out these lines, please. what the us will do is continue to support our ukrainian partners through humanitarian and defense assistance and on energy issues, and we will continue to hold russia accountable in the ways we do export control. that's it yes, as i understand it, they are tuned in to this sanctions story. quite persistent. i understand that they will drive into it everyone who can still be driven into it. in any case, our, uh, european, uh, partners, and, uh, vassals in this sense , very important news in this sense, that we are also moving in the same direction, just as we did not immediately build a line of defense at the front. we built it somehow in places. we didn’t have it, now they shot it, that’s in the economic sense, but one of these well
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of our fortified areas is a decree on retaliatory measures in the event of the seizure of russian assets, which was signed by the president of the russian federation and i want to start with you this decree, roughly speaking, in our defensive line against this sanctions pressure, namely robbery and fraud, he is in in general, how much it strengthens this line of ours. and if so, then what well, i think that the decree is motivated by the well-known story with the introduction of external management at german refineries, which belonged to a large share belonged to rosneft companies and literally the other day rosneft e, filed them with the european courts. naturally, the german court decided that in germany's right it is an external management to manage these assets, in fact, to steal. i think that , uh, just like uh, so that the last straw is exactly the story with these refineries. here, but we see that we are talking about mirror measures here. e subsection, as far as i understand, not not
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a german company. but i won't lie e didn't count the decree. eh, you need to pay attention to e. uh, get acquainted, but i think that we are talking about the same things there, in general, in general, and companies from different countries, but so far the mechanism has been applied only to two companies, where, well, all this is completely transferred under temporary management. that is, this mechanism is not yet very clear to you. as i understand it, well, i know other examples when, after all , foreign companies were allowed to sell their business in russia, that is, in this regard. i think that there will be exact solutions everywhere, so there is at least such a mechanism, that is, there is such an option. i do not think that russia will now massively seize property left in russia by foreign companies and introduce temporary management there, because do not think that russia will massively withdraw it, because well, because in fact we realize that
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in fact these companies that remained in russia, uh, we can also demand and maintain the technology for the supply of spare parts, that is, you understand, the assets are located in russia, they must work. and if you just take it away, then it’s far from a fact that it will work effectively for you at the level of elementary repair, maintenance and other things and so on. other things, so here, too, must be approached. it’s not just that everything has been seized now, but then we think that it’s necessary to approach this rationally , pointwise, such a tool has appeared, but it would be wrong from the point of view of the interests of our economy. now actually engage in seizure, although it seems to many, a very simple measure. let's take everything. so we ourselves will manage these. we have such a point of view, by the way, many foreigners who continue to work here. but the same italians in general, as i understand it, many of them would not leave, and many still have not left. i do not know how they do it and why this time. it is thank god that so far. so i agree that some approach is needed here. yes, this is really a reaction to the steps of germany, because there are two
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ford companies that i have, not the first one in one way or another , they are connected with germany and finland, but the transfer of b to our external management. it is the first e that does not allow them, for example, to sell to the owner on favorable terms for them. that is, indeed. we have uh, the situation is great number when they were guided there by anything. just not the economics of expediency, trying to find a buyer. we still have to agree with him that as soon as everything is over. all the same, they all hope very much, business, europeans hope that one way or another everything will be restored. they can buy it back. in this case. this is the first mirrored answer. and second. how can we colleagues said. this is really a precedent, but in these stories with property economics, and bureaucratic things from the point of from the point of view of the law, and so on, are so complex that you create a precedent in advance in order to understand how this mechanism works from a legal point of view, so that later, in a hurry, without,
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forgive the jambs, but to respond harshly to their further unfriendly steps, therefore, in this case, well, everything is logical, that is, roughly speaking , what konstantin vasilyevich says , the signing of this decree does not mean that we will now begin to apply it to the right and the left. but it's like some kind of signal that, like, who didn't hide, i'm not to blame. and we have about precedent, we have, uh, a situation in which the scheme of our external management in this case, and in the case of a company that is somehow affiliated in the energy sector from germany from finland well , please, guys, i remind you that a colleague from russia will not give lie to me so far energy assets. inside even the european market remained and if calculated in amounts. it's tens of billions. in fact, the euro, given there this hypothetical wave, that is, do not touch it, what is left before calculating the hypothetical we prepared a wave of expositions in advance.
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these are the same defense companies, if fortune has legal claims about fortune, that is, they are still trying to prove that this property is being confiscated from them is not entirely legal in this regard, you understand, that is, the finnish company proves in russia that russia is violating some laws while in europe they simply impudently take away and say, sorry there to the right and left, and about this i say that this decree, which is not necessary. tomorrow will start on the right or on the left. eh, it doesn't matter. just, well brazenly enough yourself. see, here you go. you have just heard the news that the prosecutor's office of poland withdrew money from the accounts of the embassy of the russian federation and the trade mission of russia , the head of the russian diplomatic mission reported this. andrew is just a bank. e, told them that he stopped cooperating with the embassy, the account was closed. and despite the fact that, as representatives of the embassy say, significant funds are frozen there. that is, you understand, this is impudence, because it manifests itself in everyone. well , it's a total mess, after all, but this lawlessness is happening in many respects, because as if they were still not sure
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that we are going to do something about it. i have a lump of a short question and , accordingly, a short answer is these statements that we will continue to put pressure on sanctions with sanctions. this is somehow linked to how the political situation will develop, or is it like the jacksonian of the soviet union has long been gone, to whom this jackson venik was dumped . and all this remained. this is also an absolutely understandable story for a decade. jackson with a broom, because it has already been worked out in order to lift the sanctions , there must be some kind of engine, as there is such a thing as waves, someone must drag the lifting of these sanctions. now interested parties. no, they don’t exist, but they will appear exactly when we understand very well for ourselves that grain is becoming the most valuable commodity in the world and russia, we can say that we are always under , very reliable protection of international law. we don't break the law. uh-huh we play by the rules and we by far are the party that guarantees food security, and in some no we can get upset and cease to be guarantors of food security, in fact.
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this is, uh, a very important story for understanding, including for those who, uh, think that now i’m giving in a little somewhere, bending a little somewhere, then everything will immediately be canceled and will be as before, it is very important to understand that as before. in the sense of these sanctions, it will not be for a very, very long time, but i want to end this broadcast with important, e.g., news that over murmansk region suffered, and there was an accident with our mig-31 aircraft. but uh. hmm , the main news is that the pilots managed to eject both alive and uh, they are still in the car. here you see, the shots of how the car is on fire, they took it away from the city, and in this sense, technical circumstances. those who are supposed to do this will sort it out, but the most important thing is that people are alive, which we are very happy with. from all our military men we pray. well, we are watching the heir's doll program. tutti is natural, as for them.
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