[000:00:00;00] nonsense, listen to me, he came and felt insulted, and he said to her oh, you know, i also have love, and i also fell in love, and offended by marina, he sent a letter to voloshin, where was this terrible phrase that it was necessary to cut it out and throw it away. marina never cared what kind of firewood was burning in her fireplace. it is this, not answering the truth of the word, not answering. i want to say. you have your great immense love for marina and everything else i communicate. i communicate with specialists, for example, once one was very good, an artist, very good and very famous , said erroneous things all over the country and then everyone began to repeat it means, there is such

a poem on december 12, huh? 1923 written by marina just after what the efront said, that's it, i don't love you either. i don't need you either. go there, live. and i myself voloshin with myself, while writing an offended hot letter, marina writes. poems you me, who loved the falsehood of truth and the truth of lies. you loved me nowhere further abroad. you loved me longer than time eyelashes wave. you don't love me anymore truth in five words. and this is a famous artist. she said it was written razdelevich. it is written to the front of any major specialist. uh, it will tell you not to us about it

, it took 2 weeks, and she understood and decided. that efron and alya will simply die without her because of the children. i would very much like to say, because they also throw mud at it, so it doesn’t have. i sometimes ask a question in the hall. raise your hand, that person who knows what hunger is , there is not a single hand of larisa in the hall, people do not know what hunger is. i want to ask you a thing to say i know what it was, what it is not to eat for 5 days for seven and dream of a piece of bread, what is it like not to have a roof over your head? i know this, you understand, they don’t know, she has committed and committed even more heinous acts

, more terrible, but they are not interested in marina tsvetaeva, which means that the case was a very simple twig. look, but while her children were in this orphanage. she did not lie down on the bed and did not become. sorry to peel off the wallpaper there, you know, she didn’t go crazy, she had a relationship. she continued to live. let's, now let's remember how it all happened. come on , she also had to feed the children, it was extremely difficult to feed. and very often she became a prostitute, to bring a piece of bread to children, she is all about love and my soul, so someone told her that there is such a kuntsevsky shelter. and what do they feed the children? well, the truth is, why not believe in talking about it? so why didn't you go? she, who took them there, and she took the children irina and alya abu there - both

girls, and suddenly at one moment. uh, the news came, i don’t know how any there were no phones, so she got sick. alya got sick, alya had a terrible temperature of 40 and even a little higher, and they couldn’t diagnose her, and she died and marina ran and took alya home. and she nursed her. she did not leave her, and at this very moment, when all this was happening, she was fighting for her life. irina died in the orphanage there, and no one told her, and they buried her there. she found out everything, then i can continue we are talking. poems two hands lowered on the infant's head were

given to me, one for each two heads, but both clamped furiously, as best as she could, the elder of the darkness, snatching the younger did not save, two hands to caress the gentle heads of the magnificent two hands, and here one of them turned out to be extra light on the neck of a thin dandelion, damn it. but it is still not at all understood that my child is in the earth, and i do not want to eat, drink and live, but to cross my arms quietly, to swim with my eyes across the empty sky

and for freedom. i'm not nasty. oh my god . i don't allow anyone to talk about this situation and about marina badly. who says it? who does not know what it was. and she left soon. we irina did not become at the beginning of the twentieth year, the twenty-second she left. uh, marina went to sergei yakovlevich. e there in the czech republic where the mass sarik called? but amazingly, she writes to hurt another. no, a thousand times better to endure the most i'm not the winners. i am under my own judgment; my judgment

is stricter than yours. i don't like myself, i don't sit. so that people do not say a phrase to the marin, they will always say a bad one. this is also true, when the first wife, but exactly written too early, brother too young. its main difference the sociability of the public is my wolf solitude. he can’t live without a newspaper, and i can’t live in a house where the main newspaper lives. here, when here it was leaving with the undressing family. yes, it's boring, yes, the heart does not beat, but i was given a terrible gift of conscience - disrespect for someone else's suffering. she said who is your neighbor. the law of god is the one who is most in you. e needs, maybe writes. she was a fool, they would have been happy without me, but who would have convinced me then. i was sure, not sure, that without me they would die. and now i

burden for them. god's punishment they all want to act to build a life. they need something else than what i can give, gave away and remained useless to anyone. i understand it well, i am like that. excuse me, but i understand why you, why is the universe valuable for itself , yes? and why are you her lawyer? of course, thank you. thank you for calling. i'm always happy to talk about marina. i mean, it's also important to refute what you said today, it's so important. this is a podcast of letters, and i had a guest, great svetlana

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select and benefit every day. hello everyone, there is a podcast on channel one, everyone wants to fly and i'm leonid yakubovich, i'll sit in the first cabin, as in general, i'm clumsy compared to the person who came here today the official title of the best pilot of the century, honored master of sports svetlana kopanina, svetochka hello, i did not say one thing about which you do not know, i wanted to say that today in the studio there are one kashniks. after all, i graduated from the kolta kaluga aviation technical school, so you and i are classmates in e, after graduating from kolta, we sat on

the yak-52. it was the first aircraft of the first aerobatics. how many times have you been world champion 41, and if you complicate the seven-time absolute world champion? there are four exercises in one championship, maybe four, if the weather permits. yes, maybe four times, but to have, uh, a championship title, for example, if you have four gold medals, then you are already a champion four times in one competition, but there is only one man and woman absolute in the sum of these exercises. here i have, if now the seven-time absolute world champion, we have in general in the world two three-time absolute champions men, one woman, three-time absolute

champion one russian. and there is only one russian three-time two-time, a czech and a russian. here we are disbanding on the step of women, three times. uh, the two-time frenchwoman is also french, but i have sevenfold scheme for fulfilling the standard deserved. well, master of sports. how many figures are missing? how many figures, in principle, because a-a figures, they are, as it were, the same. yes we fly, we have means unlimited is an unlimited class two is a class of restrictions and sideshow is a beginner class. what is an unlimited class? this is what it means for here, just for the figures, that is, the class is not limited, there is the maximum number of figures. well, almost everything that is possible. so what is allowed? yes, because our catalog of aggression has a lot of figures. well, most of them are in principle allowed

for arbitrary. gram, and here, and with class restrictions, for example, they cannot do. there are some kind of negative spin outputs. well, that is, a simplified program and intermedia is the initial class of an even simpler program. what are you working on? at the championships on our boards or well, now , unfortunately, on the german exac, because and our planes are not produced, despite the fact that i adore our dry ones. well, i hope that we will also fly on them su-26 131 you need to say that i once tried it on dry. i was given the opportunity to fly. he asked you. how will you take off? i say how you can, but he says you can not. and you can fast and furious i say, well, afterburners, well, well, that means the handle of the ore forward for the plug, and i pushed them. i had the complete feeling that

he had flown away. i stayed. i swear, i just did not understand anything, phenomenally phenomenally with such i don’t even really understand, crazy loads, moreover, with everything that is on a jet plane. you say now the pro-reactivity of the plane. and they generally overload, in my opinion, more than six does not happen. no i mean you us 10 plus or minus 10 she reactive minus almost no tenfold overload. how is it on you 10 sits companies 10 times 10 times more. well, yes, uh, we understand that it is short-term, if strong men flying on jet planes have a long overload, that is, they pulled it and that’s it. yes, there the scalp climbed for itself, and this one here continues there for i don’t know for half a minute there is still a little something, then we have it for a long time

10, well, a hammer on the head. so tyuk ate badly a little bit, lost consciousness. well, i put a vertical line on a random one, i woke up somewhere. you fall asleep on consciousness when you get lost, when this one pulled the overload, a good time you drove off, you woke up, there, not there, then you have to determine where you are. that is why they say that a pilot without meat cannot fly. i once pulled on myself, it was six and a half, a bunch of curtains fell dark in my eyes for about 4-6 seconds. then there it was me and experienced the time limit is for the performance of aerobatics. well, championships. yes, there is a limited time, for example, 10 minutes is given for the complex from takeoff to landing. and during this time you need to have time to do a warm-up figure and

a complex, you work as an instructor at a dry one. yes, what is it, it means that we work with the team, that is, we help young people to prepare, we fly to sports. and you are asking for senior instructors or among you there are some other junior dry instructors. in our country, all pilots are mostly, and testers or hatches the testers are we only instructor athletes. like him, then you can't be an instructor? hard work, i was talking to a test pilot who worked on the 144. here tupolev every time i admire these people. who go, i always thought, i know that naked wrote that a person who goes to work in flight, as a feat. uh, you think he's not ready to fly,

but still step into the unknown. we are with you , thank god you at least know what the conversation is about. how long does it take to to put a person by the handle to perform all the aerobatics. eh, it’s great for the world cup, you know, there are no incompetent people on the internet, right? well, it’s just that everyone is given differently, someone will sit down and fly. for a year, and someone is 15, but from their capabilities, from their desire, many can come to the same level. but today, uh, i can say, not two, but

three athletes, and in principle, they are all promising. this andrey yakimov is a very promising guy. irina grishina is also a very promising young girl. well there is another girl, but she is engaged in her own sport. this is my daughter, stepanova yesenia, she is now the champion of russia in freestyle snowboarding, but she has very good makings for flying, in principle. here she flew in the front cockpit with me, literally there, well, 3-4 flights and participated in the moscow championship. that is, she grasps very very easily. and if she has a time of opportunity, she wants to change sports, or somehow manage to parallel, then she could get a giant distance such a safe view. hmm life is like flying and then snowboarding. it's not known what a snowboard is. it's generally scary.

it captures my heart. when and when i watch the jumps, my son also jumped christ , literally now only yesenia is left. you are sitting, looking at all this, you are not. my son hasn't flown yet. gotta roll it. somehow everything did not work out, and he does not know what aerobatics is. here yesenia swept she liked it. she wanted to fly, but he hasn't gone for a ride yet. daughter, well, i don’t know it will be seen, but a long life will show. sorry how many years. 18, well, 20 then she still has take away and immediately because of this snowboard. let her fly, i can't help but ask. i think you have been asked a lot where the various

writing brothers are. a woman is still in a men's team of this rank, you don't have a friend next to you who stands next to you in skill. well, why, and especially before under the soviet union, we calmly recruited two women's teams for the world cup and each of them could easily compete for first place, but now, unfortunately, wang limit. i was left alone, yes, so we fly over veterans, we defend whose country you are on-on. but we still have even good results, while at the same time you fly out. it's funny, but still, i asked psychologically for a reason, but as a man i imagine some kind of inconvenience in

my soul. well, how can i, but she can, but i’m not like that, you’re right, by the way, that’s why male envy, it’s much worse than female envy, that’s how many years the team has been flying so much, because despite so much they peck me and tries to make me left this team. now it has become a little calmer before, just ate right. but they can't do that. you can not wear skirts will be in the women's team want to be stronger, well, improve. be better. why envy? why negative? i never understood this. i always thought that the russian team is something so sublime, something ah, unattainable. yes, well, something unearthly, but when it got into this team, when i saw

what kind of chicken coop it was, how everyone was eating each other there. i said i don't go there anymore i won't go and i don't need anything, except for the soviet union. well, then i got into the national team of the soviet union for the first time and from the next two camps. i refused completely, but then the head coach persuaded me, and now i'm back. and so i was shocked in the wild, what was happening in the team did not want to return there, i think that in any profession , each of us had a person who, like a sheep on a string, dragged us into this business. for some reason, we coincided with someone, purely psychologically, not even because he we were surprised by something so incredible. it may be an artist, a composer, a locksmith, it doesn't matter. that's something he attracted us to, and we went into this profession and never regretted your first instructor a little, if

a little longer. i just always wanted to jump with a parachute, so i came to the air. sport club. but when i began to record, they intercepted me a little, they said, why do you need a parachute and let's fly, well , i mixed up the record, but when i signed up, i had no idea at all. what are airplanes? what planes? what planes do you fly? and what is aerobatics in general, and then i started to practice, and in september i came to the first lesson. at least i saw the planes on the posters on the wall. and we live and saw the first plane only in december before the new year and for the first time i saw what aerobatics is in january. after the new year. we had a brilliant coach. uh, rukavishnikov alexander vasilievich who really wanted me to be an athlete with him, and he pulled me out. well, that's how the cards are. and that my mother broke her leg and i had to return home. i didn’t give him my word that

i would return, so i didn’t fly with him anymore, and i had my first instructor, also a genius, he was instructing for the first year. kolya golubtsov was a very cheerful, very energetic athlete. but the first coach from the second year was your namesake leonid arkadievich solodovnikov. yes, it was just a brilliant pilot too. unfortunately, he is not there now, but i received from him, of course, everything that concerns sports equipment. a probably love for the sport. this is the man who first got me rode for aerobatics. and i liked it. i decided to stay and try. and in principle, here i am very grateful to him easily, go through a medical examination. yes, i don’t like the bike at the last moment, the commission, i had to spend 2 days in the gym to unscrew the bike normally. for me, it has always been a boat

all my life. i went in for athletics, never ran, gymnastics, physics is good, but the bike. i do not know why he was included in the medical board. i understand the cardiogram. well, there isn't even one in flight, we do not experience such loads as this bicycle. well, after all, in dynamics they are against a bicycle. ok i'll pass it on. no , i'm against it, of course. with age, changes in vision can change the usual things . taufon was created to nourish the restoration and youthfulness of the eyes; it is recommended to use it. daily for three months , three courses a year . and what does it mean star sale book pack of moomin diapers for 959 rubles. and gel for

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78. we, perhaps, flew one twist, aerobatics, 78 years old. yes, i do not understand, everything is ahead. no, wait, i understand, we are in common with him. we get the same age, but i would not dare to twist aerobatics. in any case, many people told me, after all, the age of the vessels , if you tear something will burst, god forbid, they always say everything, and who is this, by the way, is it a russian or a foreigner? no, this is an italian 78 years old. well , of course, we always flew on the sly. mediocre, well, whatever it was , little by little, little by little. your body is individual. yes, you yourself feel that you need it, i flew off pregnant, everyone told me it was impossible, but i somehow feel the bearing fit in there. i put my pillows, and she

is also in position. well, it was. yes, wait, wait, well, my mother is a gynecologist, if she moved there, it means she worked with yesenia for a decent uh period, and the second was 5.5 months. doctors , please forgive me. it just so happened that i passed the medical examination, and it was in six months, and this period was enough for me to participate in the cup until the next medical examination. you know, i regret now, i didn’t introduce you very correctly, i should have said that i am today i'm happy to meet svetlana, honored master of sports, a little crazy woman. i didn't say that, but you stunned me, mother, dear. she, in principle,

is not even ready to swing before. wow. and how did you fit in the cockpit? by the way, i also tried to fly, but he did not like it. yes, that's blue and blue right, right, it generally merged. i got off the plane. she is with me. this idea was pen dry. he is big. i put a lot of pillows one or two did not report. well, it was just the situation that was interesting, but it was in the emirates and the correspondent. one he was previously married, he approached a russian woman and said, svetlana it seems to me that you are a little pregnant. i say, well, this is temporary. he says, there i can talk about it . write whatever you want, so that you can tell me all. and then the men here ate from you and didn’t let you in here anymore. what are you talking about, a woman is pregnant for the first day. she doesn't get out of bed anymore. i go to bed with her, courting everything there. i say, well you want to say that you

women ate me the next year as a result. he wrote so after, uh, the cup. i know who is listening to us now. i know who we are there now he hears, and smiles, understanding how much what he wrote. there are women in russian villages, that's right. yes, so it turns out you came to the aerocle. at what age how old were you for jumping or 40:20. now i will ask about one thing that everyone remembers, but i can’t remember, i don’t remember. i know that you ask your first flight, do not remember. i'm like, well, i don't remember what the number was. no, i'm not talking about the number. yes, this is when well, i, well, how do you say? i even began to choke now. i remember just before the flight. i was told a joke. we had tradition told us, they told you jokes, no. about

the boa monkey, yes, and so on. yes, they told me, this joke was closed further, a lantern, i flew. i don’t really remember what happened next, when i arrived they told me that i told the container instead of the conveyor and i don’t remember that either. perhaps it was. well, that's all, and flew in and everyone was so joyfully greeted was three waits three times. yes, yes, and that's it, and, uh, everyone came running, everyone congratulated. it seems to me they rocked. it seems to me even there, and the fuselage was still beaten in different places. that's good, the plane is not broke. i was thin then, the feeling, of course, yes, you know, but i remember the first independent flight more, but i’m

50, this plane is very strict and very interesting. on even taxiing , you give a little more gas, it immediately starts to rotate like this. he was just so sensitive to so many. m-m refused to fly on it. we even had such an athlete who, when taxiing into the runway , abruptly gave gas and spun him. he immediately got off the plane. and he didn’t even begin to taxi him, he said, i won’t sit down again. explain but i do not understand. and what starts to twist it like that at the expense? what is the plane? i am 50. well, he has such a reaction of the screw that these things are theirs? and so and therefore i have such a memory and when she takes off. i took off, everything seems to be fine, it took off. he asks me. you're all right. yes, everything is fine. well, okay, fly, well, i did the same three by three flights, and the landing taxied, laziness arkadevich suits how are you normally, he is so tough,

he always swears to me quite like a man on takeoff, that yes, nothing. they still that you're past tom flew by? i say, no, i didn’t see it, that is, i also gave sharp gas and i was spinning. and since i was just starting to fly these ones, well, this one is not always leaving, apparently, apparently you catch it. yes, maybe look a little bit in the wrong direction, joke he's a plane. that's how high it is. he has a very high zadrat, and the hood is very high, and therefore, we take off. well, not as hard on them, for example, we do not raise the rear wheel. yes, as long as i'm accelerating. and this moment of departure, when you are still a novice pilot, you do not you feel, but a little sharper the gas, it immediately turns like this makar, and you can’t even catch it. and if even a little less often, he immediately makes a circus on the ground. and here i am a little bit, apparently gave time and in between, like this

, this is on the rise. i thought on the strip, it's clear that the screw works in this direction, well, it's clear, but it turns it. of course, on earth. yes , a helicopter, a compass. yes, the right leg should be given, because to compensate for this movement. an interesting story. or how much you need to get used to it, you will fly a little normally you get used to it. it's just that the very first one is so difficult there that mmm before taking off. um, he, how on how the initial flight gives runs. that is , you first do runs along the strip , you try to jump there, and do it, and it also has such a feature, it has a very large air cushion. you go very far , you stand on an air cushion, and it flies, and when you get bored that it flies for so long. you start to slowly twitch him, and a little bit slowly, if according to the principle there is a yak-52 or something else, then he is immediately at 5

m. well, so fast. right, the zhuha flew away, if you start to annoy him from 5 m, it's already a bit high, that is. should have gone to the second round. well, a very interesting plane is something that is usually not printed in books. this is m-m. you understand that, you have to have a wonderful sense of ass. yes, that's for sure. yes, yes, because the feeling of the earth with experience. and this is an air cushion to put him on tinctures so that he sits neatly in the box, a remarkably dry light machine. for real russian men, this is my favorite plane. i love him, but it is very difficult to control, we rotate it with two hands, if we compare the sexroy, which can be done there with two fingers, then this two-handed one is so reliable like a man in the west,

even men can’t cope with ours. no , of course, it can be lightened by the aileron, but then it becomes uh hmm very difficult to stop. that is, the heavier or the runes, the more interesting it is to stop the neutral , wait, but if the handle is so hard, how to turn the aerobatics in the same movement instantaneous movements, well, heavy wait and yell, how hold the engine control handles. no hard story. no, this is a very interesting aircraft, it is the best in the world. and if it is slightly modernized, it will be better in the world for many more years. what is let's modify the same ailerons to raise

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