she is an informal thing, yes, that, like, she approached the priest there and called something and they let you in for communion. here, that is, such a formality to say on the way to communion, here, but, in principle, confession is , uh, work with what you want to change in yourself, but it's sick. it always hurts, and now you will provide, as they said, even a cruel talent. he hurts me. he makes me look into something in myself that i don't want to look into. in the meantime, i have not illuminated everything at all for the columns of my soul. i do not go to the spirit. don't people like tolstoy look like once i wanted to say about this, that both tolstoy and any. i think great e write. eh, something is changing in us, otherwise there is no great writer at all, perhaps, indeed, in dostoevsky. this, i would say , e is happening. more brutal and more

intense, eh, but the problem is whether i'm ready for it or not, uh, there's a problem. in this case, after all, not uh, so much in the texts themselves. how much e is in me and e, here one should not only confuse. uh, again, rationalistic, uh, some such journalistic statements. uh, and uh real. uh, well, works of art, after all, and thick dostoevsky long before freud, uh, substantiated and described the role without the conscious. that's exactly the unconscious they specially wrote, and the ancient monks this is long worthy of dostoevsky for 1.500 years. yes, it's another matter. yes, after all, we are now talking about whether we are ready or not, we are. this is a big question, a person does not change, because through the consciousness of a and dostoevsky , again. yes, they talk a lot. you need to know unconsciously in fact

only when you know something unconsciously, then only then it really has an effect, therefore, he has such a retreating strategy of udostoyevsky, unlike tolstoy, who will say everything many times and repeat just in case, if suddenly, but still tolstoy writes after the word to chekhov and writes, because it is a story of a darling, because it is so beautiful that it is written unconsciously. eh, tolstoy is precisely tolstoy, but he himself acts differently. but, uh, that's why those for whom dostoevsky is too cruel to carry are fond of fat. yes , because tolstoy poses these questions. behold, yes, illuminating the soul in another plane. he is, as it were, from this plane yes souls, that is, his hero experiences doubts. and you understand that well, you kind of can walk this path with them and it's like a normal human life. and when you suddenly look at it from the point of another

being higher, firstly, you can see more. secondly, it is seen from a different perspective. that is, tolstoy shows this here as your human, and dostoevsky shows it as yours, preventing you from being a man. and these are completely different perspectives that interfere. yes i i formulate these perspectives a little differently than tatyana uh, but for me, of course, it is tolstoy who has this uh such uh. well, i would say, if we say that both of them are still within the framework of christian culture. it's all the same on the one hand. christmas tolstoy from here. from here the kingdom of god to his permanent ones , that we can have the kingdom of god on earth, and the other is still, uh, easter here, uh, both are absolutely necessary for russian culture. uh, although i put easter as it is clear, you know, but, but still, then

the other is necessary in order to fully reveal russian culture, therefore, but you know what i want to talk about. which persons finish? and ask you to answer. here are the questions. what works of one and the other would you definitely recommend in two cases? the first case, a is a foreigner. here a foreigner wants to read one work. well, let's give such a hypothetical situation , the work of tolstoy is one work of dostoevsky and the second is already close to our life. this is an attempt to resolve the dispute early or read in such and such a class. yes, that is, a foreigner and a student must read one work of each. well, as we say lady fift, it means that to a foreigner i would advise anna karenina and, uh, brother roma. so, as for our schoolchildren , i’m afraid you won’t meet it in a minute, because everything is much more complicated. but really. i think that, uh, if you don't do it, but

by the reading that we do, for which you give grades and check whether you coordinate the text. that is, how many mugs did someone have and in what dress? yes how old yes yes, yes, yes, er, then this is a good read for high school students. this is a very good idea. e. well, er, in principle, crime and punishment too, that is, which is really a classic included in the school curriculum. eh, you just need it. uh, very good to read very good to teach. well, i partly agree, but not entirely. uh, long wanderer the brothers karamazov, uh , at least part of it if you don’t master everything, uh, and uh, war and peace, too, at least part of it is not anna karenina, although a foreigner. let them read at least e, the description of napoleon and kutuzov may be

better understood by russia, but for a schoolchild it is the same. well, here i am, although i came up with the ending, and you took it and destroyed it. we just thought we'd be on the fists. and i'll tell you. honestly, i'm a foreigner. i'm just taking the course. e reference to the russian culture of identity and understand that nothing will be mastered. i have a short course of 8 years there, so i ask you to read the boy at christ's tree. well, how can it not only be possible to get closer to dostoevsky, that's everything. well, like this story. thank you very much. today we gathered our thoughts about tolstoy and dostoevsky tatyana kosatkin ivanovich and the salons. i'm vladimir left yes see you again.

hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shklarov, this is a podcast of space stories. today my guest is sergey nikolayevich samburov, chief specialist of radio engineering systems for communication with spacecraft of the energy rocket space corporation. and what is most interesting is that the present is equal to konstantin eduard tsiolkovsky , the founder of theoretical astronautics. today, we will just talk about konstantin edward tselkovskiy, his legacy of space communications, communication sessions, as well as satellites that are collected by students of our russian universities. sergey, tell us what you do in energy. well, i have been working in energy for 45 years. i started to study at the mission control center, i was engaged in the analysis of the activities of the crew, and my occupation in radio engineering followed from this, but, because such a one flew.

musa monarov proposed to install a communication system. for all the inhabitants of the earth have developed frequencies and intended. i developed the project, and we implemented it and went on to develop further, so to speak. and at first it was surprising, because on the world. naturally. hmm , there were no communication channels like that, as there was only a purely official soup channel with dry commands from the main operators. turning it on at 26, turn it off there and that's it, and there was no such emotional support. and when the guys on board turned on the radio stations, they heard the voices of the whole earth, all so joyful, and they did not understand that this station was flying, they say, oh wait, now i'll run away with my wife. wait guys. hang there for 10 minutes here now i have time for my wife. and she, too, as they say with the astronauts, says, yes, we are flying and will already fly away. in 10 minutes we will be 2,000 km from here. well, in general, it gave rise. such

an astronaut, too. and they intended for a long time. and polyakov flew the enclosures for a year. and here, yes and a half and here. everything, that, uh, jonah was very fond of this connection too, thanks to the amateur radio connection. any person who has a receiver at home. yes, the transmissions could talk to the astronauts. i i think the astronauts could talk to their own friends and relatives. today there are no satellite telephones at home and in fact. it was such a thread, emotional with friends and, moreover, such was gennady manakov, they even had his mother there in the village, she lived in such a deaf place, there wasn’t even a telephone , the antenna is there with- i would explain, how to do it, and he communicated with her constantly. and in general, well, the whole village was going. they had it right there as the police were going to listen to the talks. it

was very cool. tell us about your great-grandfather, please. but tsiolkovsky you can talk endlessly and 200 is somewhere dedicated hmm pressed, but by plane. well, including the spacecraft. how to fly into space back in 1903 120 years ago , still the wright brothers. uh-huh, they were just going , probably, on an airplane, did it take off, and only aviation was born, and he had already written a book of his work, which called the study of world spaces jet instruments, then there are world space explorers using jet propulsion. he came up with his own formula. even though he studied there. basically at school. mm, two classes. then he was in the lenin library rumanian, let's say it used to be called, and from sixteen to 19 years old he sat

opening until closing in moscow, so he was such an amazing person, because. well, what a boy, even now he will go to moscow to sleep somewhere on a chest and go not to discos , not only to a library. from close to close and he has a good good memory brains. the encyclopedist also absorbed himself , so he easily reasoned like this, and the fate of not a person, but all his life, working as a simple teacher at school, he thought about the happiness of mankind, of course, they did not understand him. he himself said they would understand me after hundreds of thousands of years, because aviation was just developing there, and here a person writes about some kind of hmm and space travel of the interplanetary milky way settling a plan for the development of these outer space. and no one really understood him, they read him, as if he were an eccentric , and of course, when he wrote to a famous scientist, there mendeleevich. he wrote secheno, and they spoke. well, no, such a science astronautics

is nonsense, because this cannot be , and no one really understood it, that's all. in general, a lot has been predicted and everything will consist of a space rocket, a space station, so that it will be of a modular type. but i know that far from everything that he predicted has already been embodied in modern astronautics. not everyone. in general, he wrote 16 points of space exploration. we did the most half of the primitive there, the rocket climbed a little, uh, the upper earth on 400 km, but already in the middle of the plan. he would create a vast settlement, create a spacesuit for people to go into space, and he is in a spacesuit. i tore all my drawings even through drawing. well, let it be childish, but everything is clear. he was not an artist, so he drew a diagram and, according to the diagram, a spacesuit. it looks like everything modern, how

does it all hmm, as if it comes off, how should he do it? how to push off, throw some things, turn around at the station , painted it all, but we got stuck at the point of creating vast settlements and creating a greenhouse. here let's take, for example, a flight to mars to fly to mars, even if it's real there to overcome all sorts of fields. hmm, and overcome radiation fields. well, let's say they did it, but imagine, you have to fly far away. the crew of 10 people, probably, so that the management was like that and the cook. there it is necessary to cook food. we must go later to give food. uh, oxygen is needed even without food renewable by water regeneration, but the clothes were washed there for several times, then they are still new, and now, if we have, well, not the

best case for a year to fly there for a year on mars for a year ago 3 years. how much can you collect? it must be some kind of a large warehouse of missiles to lead, so he said it was necessary to the greenhouse, it seems to me. right now , we still need to distribute it with the greenhouse, because now, like a child , having just been born, we are tied to the umbilical cord to the mother, where the cub is still breeding. but the nascent cosmonautics need to be created so that self-organizations are already in space and are not supplied with both water and oxygen. well, how they supply food, so you need to make some kind of system that will to regenerate everything in order to travel already, as tsiolkovsky dreamed of in the universe, and in the personal way, and then he has such grandiose plans for billions of years. this resettlement of mankind began in the solar system, then resettlement to you in the milky way and already there use, moreover, for the energy

of the sun, the energy of light for movement and for , uh, the production of some materials. well, in general, and he thought everything through, and therefore further plans will be implemented for a long, long time. how much is real all that he wrote? well, this is for billions of years, but it's all calculated but it's all real, although hmm here a little, returning to philosophical problems. mm development. here we are a little off the ground. and in general, let's get further rational fields. oh well, we 'll continue to grow. tsiolkovsky believed that this is a spacewalk - these are secondary. he says, a rocket is not an end in itself for me. there will be a different way of penetration in outer space, to him and his uh, the main resettlement of man in space. why did he read some kind of teleporter? why did he think?

what hmm well, not quite so, well, and the way, well , some kind of anti-gravity in the field is moving in some kind of a new field there, along which spacecraft will quickly fly there with the help of energy. the veto will somehow be at light speed. well, in general, uh, those that technology will come up with, here, and most importantly , he believed that a person settled in the universe and lived well there, and he said that the main thing, uh, unfortunately, i’m coming back again, that we are not yet so far into space that we they also went up into space, and there it’s not yet a spacewalk under tsiolkovsky. he said that a new generation would be born in space , new people would be born in space. and if they are born normal, even smarter and hmm he thought. well, i also think to sit down many people think that the smarter a person is, the happier he is, that is, he already understands everything. he, well, in general, well, here is a scoundrel under the lyceum and they are unhappy. but people will be born

if the universe allows us to be reasonable. so that all this normal people are born there smarter generations, they will be happier and better and our civilization will develop there. well, you yourself will support these ideas. of course, i think, uh, that, well, first of all, that the smarter a person is, the happier he is. and in general, the cosmos really selects the best from people. that's how much hmm i communicate with astronauts. well, although these are also the same people who are on earth, if worse is better, but in general there is no luck that i am very scared with very good people. that's what all my life here with good people astronauts, that is, from childhood itself, it turns out that you understood that you were born in an unusual family, because tsiolkovsky was known before you and now everyone knows all over the world, by the way, they know. er, so how did you feel? being the great-grandson

of konstantin eduardovich yes, it so happened that if the children there dream of becoming e cosmonauts with someone, yes. now i just want to say what i mean by such a family i was born, i had no choice, firstly, only i didn’t have time as i was only 6 years old, when the satellite was launched in 1957, there were just 100 korolev came to kaluga to tsiolkovsky to prepare these events, museums to open their paths there from the office, because the floor did not dry out there, in general he was engaged. naturally. went to family. not only did he go there about them, while we were driving to kaluga, it’s funny here. the story is picked mushrooms. where did we know nobody in kaluga ? in jackets. here, i remember what korolev

said. i'll tell you a family secret that we will soon be the first in space. we'll start opening the space one. well, no one is allowed, and my parents told me, look, don’t try to tell someone in your kindergarten, tell them that you know that we will be the first in space for these 2 weeks until october 4th. i really wanted to tell you, as he says, he shouted into the well, but i know everything, so, finally , on october 4, a satellite flew, and i already say, but i knew, but here is my first and very i was proud, and the second, of course, step is, well, not only did scientists begin to come and i already understood as an astronaut. and when gagarin flew and this, that is, in general, this is a man in space for xiaomi it was newspapers. there , all the people did not go to work, they threw everything and and then a person comes to kaluga after 2 months. i was already in school and arrived and went into the house. and i’m already alone in tsiolkovsky’s house, where he lived in tsarist kaluga, where this

office where all the scientists came, and we already understood that so this god came in and so to grandmother grandmother daughter. eh, god is ours, but god. yuryevich gagarin came in such a simple person, and then i became petty. you already had 10 years already should have remembered. well, how else did he approach the boy there, stroked his head and said, let's join us as astronauts and since then i have already caught fire, well, you really need to really fly into space, god himself invited. i began to learn and found out that through e, you can either become a pilot. somehow you began to go to the cosmonauts for a medical committee, or, uh, to enter the konsurov bureau. and i by nature an engineer there is always a fan of all these techniques, then you can enter korolev well, for this you need to finish hmm institute. i graduated with a degree in radio engineering

, which means that in 3 years it was possible to submit an application to the chief designer to undergo a medical examination. i did it and went to work. there. after 3 years, i submitted an application to korolev and started checking me there. well, as always, we know that there are no absolutely healthy people. under-examination, that's why some of these tonys found me there. so it's not so. well, like this corrected. and here we see it again. well, here i deeply believe. here, the laws of the universe, apparently, something decided that it was too fat to be a descendant of tsiolkovsky to develop his ideas and cosmonauts, which means they took me away, i served as an officer in the saratov army for two years. hmm school, pilots, it's been there for 2 years. well, and now he left the energy, of course. there is also married here all this. well, in general, the children are there and returned. after

2 years it started again, but again i have such here in my life. i've become so anxious already. all the time some bans are coming. here it is impossible to go there a detachment of astronauts were proud of you. yes and well, but the ideas remained a dream. that's why i immediately when i returned, i probably began to work with a civilian detachment, cosmonauts, and in fact hmm it turned out that i started gagarin here, then there was a gap while i was studying, then i came into energy exchange with the astronauts again with a civilian detachment. what was and is your work with astronauts. and i'm just teaching them how to communicate, because according to legal laws, let's say this, i'm the boss radio stations that are on board and i have to give permission to the astronauts. they could use this equipment of theirs. i teach i tell them. how this system works,

in addition, well, i'm conducting two more experiments , one, and gagarin's space, which you all know, this means, uh, cosmonauts. uh-huh , all communication is carried out either with students, or with schoolchildren. this is about 23 or 30 sessions a year, because with the whole world , not only with the whole world, but basically now is the last time. here we are with russia because schoolchildren hold a competition to select the 20 best questions, because the session lasts 10 minutes, while this side of the line-of-sight flies overhead. even children see sometimes. if the night session of the station says, we see you, and the astronauts also speak with humor, but we don’t see you wave your hands. well, like waving, really those children. here they ask questions quite interesting there are funny such 20 questions they ask them answer. hey, astronauts. and they

have never been happy. here's what about the village, so that they u refuse the session. here we are now trying to make a channel, so that even the astronauts can see those who submit questions , then it will be generally good. uh, the second one i have is hmm well, the radio communication system is um, too. uh, how would radio amateurs help us. this is when the crew returns to the ground, we turn on the equipment. mm, such a source, let's say, because already in the soviet union there were floating nipas. there were ships in the sea that conducted a communication session, but now there is no such thing. and here we are at the return of this share somewhere under africa already when impulses. yes, and you are moving, mm, the transmission continues to transmit telemetry about us, there are two main parameters that concern us.

this is when the time has passed, well, the turning on of the brake engine, and how long it has worked, and the second parameter is of concern, this is when the separation has passed, when the household compartment has separated from the aggregate compartment and when the capsule can already be sure in time that it will fall into the nominal time divided. that means search engines. in half an hour , this place will already be found in kazakhstan, therefore. well, we have a control center, a main control room with the iss is a ship, here the ship sits next to these. well, i'm sitting in the hall and talking to the crew from such a system they came up with that i'm already like a sexual student. he is in space. this is the international space station and all the telemetry from the spacecraft . and if everything fits together, then everything is fine, something is wrong, then we are replaying, in addition, in our

communication system with the student. this is another emergency channels where you can contact on service channels, you can go to others. well, to america to others there even by phone to call the world. at the mira station, this was generally a novelty. now it is possible with putin's phone, but in general, you can contact and just tell some radio amateurs there is something wrong with us, and i also remember valery polyakov. he really was such a case when he helped a lot. we have a special transfer there, the twenty-third form. this means it is necessary at this time said indicated long for a day, so that from this turn from this turn to return to the ground correctly to the right place and fly. here is lena konakova, german melbourne, and when they flew it so happened that there were six crew members and a lot of energy consumption, which means that all the transmissions turned off and turned off

and everything was transmitted. already. well, it's been a day. they say, how is it with us? hmm, we were so worried, the forum was not handed over to us. valery says. and what about me says it turned on the equipment, you received all the signals, everything is recorded for me. well, i was ready and everything. we have us, we have nothing to worry about. the crew also liked, of course, the systems that the intercomputer developed. what is the package connection in the world? because the parallerian system appeared, but there was no such thing in the service channel. and we also had such a hmm and a line such a system, a long ribbon of thermal paper. it was transmitted at such a speed that we can even imagine serving 50 bots when a needle was printed on first paper, and russians were not it was, and when the world went to us, and this was the program

of the mines, it became necessary to transmit more english words on the equipment, it turned out 10 m by 15. length. here is a narrow tape. well, here we are, here he is. hmm, he also began to ask. but why the same frequencies, why can not be done? well, in general, hmm, on the meth- at my debriefing and on the commission, in general, uh, we instructed to make such a system, and between the control center and the hmm station, the world turned out to be an interroom exchange and received it already. uh, now it sounds wild like something with computer, and at that time, yes, there was a whole package dropped. yes, and here are my friends. why are 23 forms remembered? what is there with us the crew had to repeat everything to confirm all these figures, but here they received such an intercomputer. it is so arranged that it is without mistake. now this is, if she passes the spikes,

she repeats, just this piece turns out that they get the file ready. nothing needs to be repeated. and this unloaded a lot of time, of course. i also received gratitude. and you are the crew though for security now, but still, and in the evening the commander of the spaceship. union receiving already in a modern form. there 23 23, 24, then, and in any case, it compares. at least that's what you say, which is the turn-on time. uh, the engine of this column doesn’t care, even though it is transmitted electronically, anyway, so that god forbid, there was no mistake, because it’s very important of course, because it’s better to double-check your time, because if you don’t give it, then you have an impulse, then you can not sit there, and in general in form there it is safe in form a lot of information, there is baked when we cross the equator the beginning of the revolution the end of the revolution uh. well, there is just the time to turn on the engine, e, in

the event of an emergency urgent landing in the study on the ground. so what time to turn it on? what is the impulse so that we just get to the place where we will have to wait for the service? both antoshkaperov and we continue our conversation with sergey nikolai samburov as the chief specialist for the sake of the technical system. what energy here i look on a table costs. uh, konstantin who tsiolkovsky, we always have a presence at the station. i know now you give periodically updated exactly the image of the photograph on the central post it has always been. and we have a library. yes, quite extensive there are a lot of books. eh, constantino eduache. well, i know that the library was still on the world, yes, on the world. yes, it was so official, the library, the on-board library named after initialkovsky was their mucus tsiolkovsky at his own expense. hmm published these books and sent them to everyone. and in general,

uh, of course, returning to tsiolkovsky, which still, you understand the person writes. about something about some stars, about which and now he spends half a shelf of his. for some book research. they are not known. about what refusals are everywhere to him and we have family traditions. still. if it weren’t for his wife, then he might not have been so tsiolkovsky, because she understood with some kind of female intuitive that, well, when her husband was singing on the shelf, this is understandable. and when he spends something for nothing, and there the children are starving a lot, everything is there. well, there, well, and now he spends this money on this. well, it took on itself and it in general, helped him very cool following. so, back to the library. we took these buildings during our lifetime and asked the museum to transfer all the funds from the family. i also sent such works that are not in vivo, which we somehow succeed in our funds and

hand over, so to persuade someone to find and hand over, and we sent. here it is on mk. here i have a photograph stored for me, where you are just with a pack of books, there tsiolkovsky there are several types of tsiolkovsky thinks that we have only as a modern electrode. well as electronic a book, but we love, well, i like, for example, to read before going to bed, just take a book like this, flip through the pages in simple language without any of these, of course, the academy of sciences should have given him the nobel prize, in theory, because he himself without outside help wrote everything, and everyone did not understand astronautics. this is what we now understand . and when we come here with astronauts with some astronauts in calusia, a house, i tell them, look. there is no internet, he does not even have a computer. there video systems. no, there would be no books on astronautics, and then they say. look, there is not even light, he did not even have light. he had

a kerosene lamp, which he moved in order to illuminate places with a kerosene lamp humble teacher. here i was thinking about the universal mind, and the moisture of all mankind is the happiness of all mankind, therefore, here it is hmm it's good that he reminded me about the bust of tsiolkovsky just hmm here and on the iss. there is, and this one was. no, this is another, this is a copy, but that one remained. yes, now, as in the course of the transfer of shifts, they are like the key of tsiolkovsky libraries. yes, as part of the library belonging, and this big bust has already been made by the well-known sculptor , salavat shcherbakov made this bust, and we have already installed it firstly in the izhevsk populist of tsiolkovsky because, but they say, kaluga is our homeland, tsiolkovsky, here is our countryman but this wishful thinking really gives out because volkovskaya was born in the village of izhevskoye, ryazan province, a real russian scientist

who lived there, only the last years of his life with his yes countryman, and she is proud and now the bust was installed there everything is on when it was 165 years last year. we went to izhevskaya and there this bust was opened. and just like that, he was there, in addition to such busts, we generally set up a school for gifted people named after ural sultan, there was such a cosmonaut buranovsky. we have four teams there. and i happened to be happy. i still know all of them, i trained them on snowstorms, because there were no simulators. and here are all the four detachments that we all had, as if i had a chance to train them. well, basically , for the sake of communication, to travel to different offices and this one without installation was installed in the southwestern statehood, and in kursk he was recently just like that, as i understand it, that the satellite has something to do with it. moreover , you are under even. professor yes of the state university, southwestern

state university, i really like to work with milk. that's about these satellites that students come up with. yes, they are already making their own spacecraft, and this is a spacecraft. it flies around the earth from the iss in orbit because it transmits telemetry and it has solar panels. and how long such a satellite lives in orbit, it all depends on the activity of the sun, and at what speed the astronaut will launch. well, i’m eternally grateful to you, don’t cry to anyone for the fact that you still offered a very better way that i need to throw my hand when you go out in a spacesuit. here is me in the film with pleasure. i look, where you and oleg artyom are throwing inside, but three stations yeah, and you are throwing it wrong with your hand. and you accompany me, first i just turn with the body, and then just let go of my hand, and he flies slowly.