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Understanding 9/11tv Kukli naslednika Tutti 1TV May 2, 2023 7:50pm-9:01pm MSK
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well, an attack so that they lose, that it was possible to occupy western ukraine, dismember this country and take these resources for a penny. moreover, the poles of the same ones have already prepared a plan for a long time and a map of the partition of ukraine. they have already presented to everyone, they have written to everyone who could only be on the air now, of course. look, do not miss the interview with the permanent representative of russia, he is vasily , not benzya to the host of the program , dmitry's big game, thank you all for your attention. there is a big game on the air we will discuss many international events and of course we will talk about situation in ukraine and around ukraine, but we will begin our program today with a conversation with vasily alekseevich , russia's permanent representative to
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the united nations good afternoon hello, dmitry, but i have to see you. as you can imagine, it's an obvious question. you had a stormy week in the security council, when foreign minister sergei lavrov was present. and it is clear that these were not easy days, it is clear that the minister and you managed to say what you considered it necessary to say, but here's how it is with you general impression from this week, and especially if you could share with us your observations of what the collective west was trying to achieve. why did they turn it, but not into a platform for diplomacy, if you like, but into a platform for hybrid war. this week has been easy for me. i am always glad when
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a delegation headed by a minister visits us. for me, this means that the minister is working and resting. but of course it works, my colleagues' visit was preceded by preparation. uh, i didn't talk about just this week , our presidency as a whole ended in april. a and uh, presidency is not football, where hmm where where the team strive to identify the winner in diplomacy sometimes, a draw is much more important than victory in this sense. i think that our presidency was successful without any excesses during it organized three. uh, the so-called iconic events as they say here. this is an open debate on e, on the risks that arise from uncontrolled uncontrolled supply. from military purposes, to effective multilateralism based on
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the un charter in principle and, to the middle east, including palestinian issues, the last two of these meetings were chaired by the minister of foreign affairs of russia, and we outlined our approaches to multilateralism. this is a separate topic, we can talk on this topic on this topic separately in addition to what i will say now, we have outlined our approaches, which are well known to everyone. e, in response, of course, will be heard by the well-known narrative of the west that e is not the skin of the aggressor to reason and versatility. that was about the leitmotif of the performance of the west uh, they were limited to what these already ritual formulas gave, or they really tried, uh, to arrange some kind of polemical battle from the session of the security council. yes, there is no special
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polemical special controversy did not work. they spoke the theses known to us, which they repeat the meeting in the meeting is nothing new. in fact, we didn't hear. but there were some attempts to prevent you from organizing sessions to show sessions. you probably remember that on the eve of our presidency, the americans and other western countries. uh, the media had a lot of talk, uh then who, uh, russia has no right to take the post of chairman of the security council that russia should give way to someone else, but that the americans will closely monitor how we carry out our functions. it was such an ar-preparation and an attempt to put political psychological pressure on us. we have never abused our convertible chair. there are always performed honest professionally. and we are chairing
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the council in february 2022, which coincided first special military operation. and then we theoretically had the opportunity to abuse in one issue. we have not become this case. for which they earned the respect of our colleagues. e, and now all of them, after the end of our intercession, thanked us for holding it, and they even did it. those who initially doubted our ability to exercise an effective presidency. let it be reluctant, but nevertheless you understand, it's very, uh, interesting, what you say new york. we talked with your uh, predecessor vitaly churkin, and there were also quite a lot of contradictions and public controversy in the security council at that time, but to my pleasant surprise, churkin said
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that at the level of his personal communication with colleagues , the situation was normal and, uh, i even received confirmation, but because a force, which was at one time his partners. uh, just talking about the churkel. i would even say not just with respect, but out of sympathy, but samantha power new york times. which article wrote a positive positive decision and also halizat zalmehalizat, they were generally cut with churkin desperately for cash relations. i know this from the sewers they had. well, i don't want to say close relationship. of course not. well, in general, constructive. how is the situation. now you can work normally with representatives of western countries in the security council. of course, they can
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security council - this is not an institution of noble maidens, which at first, with the start of a special military operation , the anglo-saxon ladies tried to turn it into and not a club of like-minded security council e. always was a place where the contradictions of the great powers and those who argue that the council was effective before and has now become ineffective are faced. they are either cunning, or they don’t know history , or they pass off wishful thinking, and there was a time in the nineties, when it really seemed to us that we entered a new bright world, and everything will now become different, er, but that, well, then we had a collision, because with this security. uh, security council clash, interests, nationalists interests, often indigenous national interests.
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uh, as i said, the great powers are constantly members of the council uh and uh in order to ensure that these interests are ensured and there is an institution of branches that are not just a privilege constantly on the most important tool for achieving a balance of interests, with regard to personal personal communication. e, then with all the representatives of the west and the powers, including the americans, we had e friendly communication outside the council. i have spoken about this many times. uh, the same communication we have now is an amendment to what is now happens because western countries. uh, the european union is first of all, by the way , the americans are second. they made a decision at all. hmm they made a decision. uh, limit your contact with us. yes, this is not our choice, but in the security council he has nowhere to go from this. moreover, at the expert level, we communicate daily with
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representatives of these countries, uh, for a long time. more than a year. we didn't meet as five members of the council all the time. and it wasn't our choice either. finally not then, but like our presidency the french organized such a traditional lunch for the five, together with the general king, where all the members of the five confirmed the need. yes, there is no dialogue dialogue, because the security council is not limited. there are so many situations when discussing the situation around ukraine ; there are a lot of issues that require our joint actions. thank you very much. this is from my point of view. not just, but a very interesting, but also important story, because in general, sometimes one gets the impression that the situation is in the security council. eh, more worse than you wrote it, but before we let you go. i want you to have a question, but it was asked by a person whom the former
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ambassador knows well. he is andrey denisov, you know i have a question. eh, very simple. firstly. i am very glad to see in all of alekseevich we are connected by many years of joint work, and i would like to emphasize the following. all of us, the audience that hears us or sees us, must understand that our diplomacy in modern conditions is diplomacy. warring country, and this is felt first of all, where vasily alekseevich and his staff, because working at the un is a team game. i remember my years 17 years ago and what seemed difficult to me then, and sometimes incredibly difficult. uh, it just seems like hothouse conditions now compared to what's going on right now, so sorry for the lengthy question. i have one vasily alekseevich, all mine and first of all, as they say, cyprus fingers i cross
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my fingers and the question is this. how do you endure all this? helps us helps us. ah, long experience. uh, relaxing uh friendly communication. e. well, i want to say that i have already said that communication with my colleagues never stopped, except only for new intermediaries who arrived here after the start of a special military operation. they did not consider it their duty to come to me with a courtesy visit, so i know what to say, as they say only on tv, but with all our old colleagues, friends, we continue to communicate outside. uh, the united nations buildings. true. i have to say that i didn't give away a big secret. that's about the level modern diplomacy, and i think it is represented by the high representative of the european union for foreign affairs, josé barrell, minister
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for foreign affairs of the european union, who recently became famous for a number of high-profile statements. well, what a high representative such such diplomacy of the european union recently. here i was at one reception, where i met my old friend. ambassador of one of the major countries of the european union and i told him. you wanted to come to me for dinner twice already asked about it, i invited you twice, but you didn’t you come, to which he told me, vasily, you understand, because at the eu level we have decided not to communicate with you socially. e, you see, there stands, a settlement of one e of the baltic countries. i know brussels will snitch on me but i'm not afraid of that. here is an example of what is happening here in the european union now, as regards, again, the level of diplomacy. during our presidency, a number of countries, four specific
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countries, did not contact us as chairman, when he gave them the floor, they said thank you and move on to your presentation. we met yesterday. uh, from the hiding place to discuss the program of work, they were the chairman of the maya council, and i told them about this, that, of course, this did not go unnoticed with us, but we are polite people. however, everything, this is petty and unworthy of a member of the council. and i can even tell you. ah, i join , uh, denisov’s dishes and take off my hat to your professionalism, because speaking the way you say is calmly confidently balanced, but no way, but if you want, without showing indignation, but with rhetoric and actions of your so-called colleagues on the security council. this, of course, from my point of view is not easy and a great achievement. thank you very much. thanks dmitry and
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thanks to everyone in the studio. i am very glad to see you. hope to see you again soon good luck. thank you general buzhinsky obvious question we talked about the diplomatic front, which, to put it mildly. e was uh, far from hopeless, what happens when we talk about the battlefields in ukraine and one of the participants in our program. uh, talk about what's going on with the so-called counteroffensive. he spoke about the feelings of the russian military. he said it's like a tightrope. you know , dmitry has the impression that the whole world is looking forward to when this widely advertised, announced offensive will begin. of course,
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the discrepancy in statements is a little alarming. e ukrainian leadership. some say, there, well, april 30 has already passed. they talk about may, and others say, but still others fly. they say that it may be until the autumn, uh, that's it, it will last. and all this is accompanied by ritual e you know with such statements, yaroslavna crying that there is not enough equipment. now here is a new e moaning about aircraft about combat aviation. i understand americans very well. i have more than once. eh, would talk about it, that it would be so to say. well, let's put it this way. uh, if they decide to start supplying combat aircraft, this will be a turning point, of course, in this operation, because they themselves say that ukrainian pilots are not yet ready to pilot these aircraft. this means that these should be pilots, and they should be based from nato countries. they have to somewhere not on the territory
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of ukraine, therefore, all this may result in the fact that we will enter into a direct military clash with the forces of the forces, but i want to say about something else, that , uh, they have been for several months. uh, they accumulated strength and concentrated technique. uh, in the pavlodar region, pavlodar has turned, well, given its geographical location. uh, not far from dnepropetrovsk , it’s close, practically all areas of the special operation are accessible, and they have accumulated quite decent forces there, judging by the intelligence that became known, a. it's in open access. uh , yesterday's attack on pavlodar at the railway junction there, well, there is no exact data on what was hit and destroyed, but the ministry of defense said that all the targets
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that were planned. they were hit by a lot of very hard explosions. uh, that is ukrainians. i think they suffered very heavy losses there, first of all, in terms of destroying stocks of ammunition and equipment, so i say again that i am waiting for this offensive from the point of view of simply operational art. how does e not having advantages in none of the components , not in air superiority, not in armored vehicles, not in artillery, but they have the only one. uh, very high hopes for precision weapons. these are, uh, rszo, like hymes, but they can't decide. uh, the tasks of a successful offensive. i strongly believe in this, so i'm looking forward to how they will cope with this task, and especially considering that if this is the south direction , it's all in the open. all this is also great for defeat, when they begin
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to focus grouping for a breakthrough our very well organized defense, so i am like a military person. i'm just looking forward to when this attack starts, if it starts at all, well, i understand your patience. i'm sure. even more impatience for those who are at the front. yes, because so much has already been said about it, for sure, people are tired of waiting, but uh, as i understand it, uh, and the command at the front of hostilities and uh, the general staff in moscow, in general, is very serious about the upcoming offensive. especially considering how the ukrainians were prepared for this military personnel here uh your point of view. would it be more correct to call it a counter-offensive of the ukrainian army, or is it the offensive of the collective west that
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uses the ukrainian army. in this case, like a battering ram no, well, it's natural that this is a proxy war, that is, a proxy war, of course, ukrainians are at war with the west. it's just a tool, so to speak. e on the other. on the other hand, of course, the west is already uh starting to get bored. here it is, first of all, uh, i repeat again. this is not a counteroffensive, a counteroffensive retaliatory actions in response to the offensive, when the offensive is reflected and e, the defending troops go on the counteroffensive. we don't advance. we are conducting e operations to force out the mopping up of enemy forces, let’s say from bakhmat and e because of avdiivka, because, well, from the object, it’s clear, because this is the place where e-e is fired from, and the president set the task of eliminating this as soon as possible
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uh artillery concentration point, ukrainian artillery. what about? i repeat once again, an offensive operation, then the west, in my opinion, is already openly pushing the ukrainians. let's start already, otherwise our audience starts asking questions. with what article do we spend such an amount of money, send such an amount of ammunition equipment, but you still can’t decide. uh, move on to some decisive offensive action general. thank you very much, we're leaving for advertising and will be back in just a few minutes. the genius of beauty died valentin yudashkin, his impeccable taste was trusted by the first ladies and celebrities of the work showed the world what it is
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becomes too large to be sunk. carlson, who lives without the roof of a heir doll here tomorrow on first broadcast, the big game in ukraine, there are serious events, perhaps even more serious ones, but this week in the united states focuses on something else on the conflict between republicans and democrats in congress over the issue of state debt, and just now mr. finance in the united states, jennett, made a rather dramatic statement that if no agreement could be reached
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in congress and it is not possible to reach an agreement between congress and the administration, then this can result in a situation where, after june 1 , the united states will not be able to pay its obligations for a long time, this has never happened in the history of the united states and no one knows what it would look like. what could be the consequences of this of course. it would be a very serious blow to american prestige, but if you like, you still have the dollar's reputation left. as the leading reserve currency. andronik migranyan professor of gmo what do you think about this i must say that this is not the first case, but it’s true, it usually happened not with the public debt , but with the budget of the budget emirates, because the parties always competed and blocked the adoption of the budget, because each time it was necessary to raise the ceiling for a long state in order
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for the state to be able to borrow new money . the russian federation, uh, would give this money so that e could fulfill his obligations. as for the budget, for social and for a variety of things, as a rule, it was before that. right now. added to this is external debt, and i think that this will end. in my opinion, most likely, as usual. it ended up in a bargaining between democrats and republicans, as a rule, in order to vote for raising the debt ceiling , it is necessary that the republicans and democrats find some kind of agreement in common and that there are enough votes hmm about making such a decision and as a rule trade is going on and on some issues the republicans will demand that the democrats go to meet them, and on
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the other hand the democrats will go to uh, meet them, because otherwise it’s really it will be that, actually, uh, it can end in a very serious collapse, another thing is that, as a rule, those who start this business and do not want to do it. then they have big problems. i remember teda crusoe who blocked at one of these events because the democrats would blame the rubber cross, the republican senator. yes , and yes, because on the one hand there is a temptation to block and demand big concessions, and on the other hand there is always a party that, uh, generally gets through. uh, politics is real executive power. she can always announce opponents. well, in general, irresponsible and by people who actually lead the state, uh, to
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financial collapse and, in general, to the collapse of international relations. i was just a witness myself. that's just two words. last . usually it ends with, when it comes to pay, uh in government uh, employees and so on and so forth. this happens with the budget sequestration, and then the budget sequestration automatically enters into force the law, which distributes people into the necessary and unnecessary in the first place, that is, this whole a number of things that can lead to very serious social consequences. that's why i believe what they're saying is that in the end what's going on now is rather with these congressional discussions. you are absolutely right about the budget. yes, because the republicans have already been told that they are ready to vote for an increase in the national
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debt. but they say we can't do it. if you're not trying to bring this ever-increasing american spending under the democrats and they've put forward their proposals and the democrats, who control the senate. and the white house. they've already said how to say it, given their tone. and it would be unacceptable to go somewhere far away. in general, they kind of showed their uh, contempt there was such an element. that's how they behave the administration of world politics. and who are you? we control the executive branch. we control the senate, you are like that, and the republicans say, and we are like that. without the consent of which you cannot raise to the ceiling and raise the ceiling, and with that
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emotional animosity that exists today, that's just the ambassador of the nebenzya. in general, described enough. uh, meaningful work in the un security council despite very serious contradictions in congress. we have to look and make sure that it is still possible, because there rage, uh, ignoble, but rises like a wave of history from the other side. and it just shows how polarizing is in american society. and how does it interfere with the decision. in general, very important and, in principle, in my opinion, andronicus resolve my questions. fine. tell us about tucker carlson, uh, everyone in russia is not interested in this, of course, but very many, uh, he was thrown out. and he, in general , for now, and not really, uh, explained nothing happened
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, not his plans, but he made a short address to the country. i watched it, of course, and there he did not say anything about what happened , did not say anything about his personal plans , and accused the american media of constant lies. and that they discuss problems of little importance and at the expense of very serious problems. well, what was important was the performance of 50 seven million people watched him. this is that the future candidate for the post of president, dmitry, is a very good question. you know my weakness, and i always have a hand in carlson. morning, by the way, uh, i wrote to someone that it was as if i had lost a member of my family, because my morning began to watch the night program in general yesterday, and records to us, but she gave such a general direction what is happening
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in the united states is a very interesting question. i looked at almost all the comments about what happened and what it is maybe pour out, which our, probably, tv viewers know she was and she left from there to nbc and from nbc because of black face there and so on. and the bilor, or who was expelled 6 years ago for sex, was sholharazm. by the way, here he was then kicked out in connection with the accusations, categorically denied that e was a rally then 14 years in a row was such a position. somehow he was an absolute champion. e on cable television. always in the first place, the largest audience and so on.
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such a blow to the channel, which is a channel to itself inflicted this was not here, apparently, the ambitions of robert merdark of his family collided. by the way, one of these questions is many there, but one of these moments they say, well, you see , when social events take place in new york or in america in general, events take place receptions, narrow meetings and so on. and when you are billionaires, you have a television company , you have film companies there and you are not invited there because you do not belong to this group of people, that is, such a polarization has occurred. what if you, well, uh, even the owner of the republican channel. and in general
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you are referred to as radicals. uh, but right away, they immediately call them racists, they call them anti-semy here and there, and so on and so forth. well, then you have to prove that you are not a camel, that is, before the sons of robert murdoch. many feel long resisted. he didn't want to go for it, but they didn't fire him. here is a very important question. that's it with him, because the focus is an interesting thing, but for us, of course, it's more interesting if it turns out to be the political future, the political future. moreover, this is the first time that all leading analysts and presenters stars. they said 3.5 million. if it seems so, open your program, wherever you
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are. this whole audience will go from fox to him and he's got really big, and he's always had a big chance, but it's just not his cycle, most likely in the next cycle. he will seriously think about it. i will only tell you one thing. i agree that he has well imagine here he is right like this without any political experience, and from his extravagant manner from a tv presenter a year and a half before the elections turn. this probably not his. i can say so, one was such one. eh, chizhik-pyzhik. e in ukraine yes , and you remember what happened with this chizhik fawn, when we decided to promote it well, so we live in an amazing age. i still think that the next republican nominee will never be, but i'm not ruling anything out. that's what for us, of course, now
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central is not even who will be president, but the united states and how china will treat russia and you know that there were statements, but the chinese ambassador to france all in all? to the russian point of view, e, such are very encouraging, and those who say that other e are post-soviet countries, that in general their legitimacy has not yet been proven by anyone, then there was a chinese statement, like the first statement, refuting. is this a storm in a teacup or is this a serious internal chinese debate about their policy in the international arena. well, uh, i would say that there was a time when chinese diplomacy was very reserved when the chinese ambassadors. uh, overseas after the people's republic of china avoided any public
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speeches. and even more so in the body of the interview. and even more so in foreign languages there was such a time. that time has passed, chinese diplomacy has remained much more flexible , much more active and i would say offensive. uh, and examples of speeches by words here, about which you spoke, in the first case it was the best e went in france in the second case. this is foothun. uh, permanent representative to the european commission of both. i know, especially funa worked closely with him for many years. this is a very experienced diplomat. better. i'm no less experienced than he, but in china there is an official position, which is articulated on behalf of the state and which puts everything in its place. therefore, what was said by the official representative of mead after all these statements. this is the truth, the last resort.
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and i would like to point out that there is a certain set of language that balances each other, but they are all quite general, when china declares respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity. he never speaks. uh, whose and what cases does he have in mind, and there are many such cases , not only ukraine. therefore, china has a principled position, which, uh, which follows steadily, chinese diplomacy and there are certain opportunities for flexibility. that's what we see, well you have. eh, tell me, there is some kind of concern that china, for one reason or another, decided to move away from russia, you know, i honestly don’t see any signs of this and i don’t do it whether i see them or not. do i have such concerns or not, a
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it is a matter of objective interests in the objective position of the people's republic of china uh, this is a state with a pragmatic policy, both external and internal, and it will not retreat from its uh principles. and even more so, it is useless to exert any pressure on china. you know china many times better than i do, but now, when i look at their diplomacy, it seems to me that these are, well, not french zigzags, if i put it that way, there is no such thing. uh, gallic uh, if you want the eccentricity that sometimes appears in today's french government. i think when they chose their fundamental course. and this, it seems to me, is clearly a course towards e-cooperation with russia, then this is serious and for a long time. unless something extraordinary happens. you
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absolutely agree with this. and this is confirmed in our joint documents signed at the highest level by china and russia , including during the recent visit of the chairman of the city. here. uh, when we talk about this region, there is a country there that is kind of considering, but opportunities. changes in its e-policy its position on about ukraine, its former unwillingness to supply ukraine with lethal weapons and just their president yoon-suk, yeok, i don’t hope i pronounce the name correctly, i just visited washington and as i read his statement, he didn’t announce military assistance to ukraine, but said, that they are ready to consider such a possibility if some undesirable for them happens. and the events in this country in ukraine, i mean, how to interpret this? this, in my opinion, is completely
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optional to interpret. it's obvious we can, you know, classic form. yes, but we'll see what outweighs, either yes, or, but, most likely, still in this case, but i would say a few words about the republic of korea. this is its official name. i think that too little attention is paid to this country in our video space. this is a key state , located literally at the crossroads of interests of our country, primarily for us , china, japan, with which, by the way, the relations of south korea, to put it mildly, leave much to be desired. well north korea democratic people's republic of korea in general, the entire region, this country is modest in terms of its geographical and demographic parameters. but it is certainly one of the leaders of the world economy, moreover, one of the leaders of the world industry, moreover, the modern innovative industry. this is a country
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actually devoid of natural resources, but, uh, rapidly developing and producing the most important producing and, therefore, dependent on foreign economic relations. and here a situation is created, if you want a hammer and an anvil, a reference and a charybdis according to pleasant, not i will talk about this for military-political reasons. uh, in any way to object to the united states of america, seoul is simply not able to deploy a significant military contingent of the united states of america on the territory of korea. yes, yes. yes , absolutely right. this is a very serious power. e, so e, as for the relations between the recently elected president, by the way, say to washington e, as for relations with the united states, korea is objectively deprived of the opportunity to somehow raise
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a voice there to demand something. she can only ask to ask, what to read to ask to take into account her objective features, which nevertheless force us to follow some kind of flexibility. this also applies to relations with china and relations with our country, because korea is present in our economy. ke is not only through trade, but also through investment and is present quite seriously. well, the truth is now because of the sanctions, let's say. so it's somewhat, uh, faded into the shadows, but cooperation trade hasn't stopped. and here i would like to say about the main e. apparently, the purpose of the visit of the president of south korea to america was the statement of the request not to respond. well, let's say in such a sharp oh , way to show a certain understanding of the objective situation and pay attention , immediately after this visit, there was an announcement
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that the deputy minister of foreign affairs of south korea was going on a visit. in russia, yes. well, even more so. yes, that means that the figures have also chosen an acceptable and familiar one for such rather serious conversations. of course, on the one hand, the president, on the other, the deputy minister of foreign affairs. this different weight categories. the fact itself suggests that in this case, apparently, our korean neighbors follow the classical so -called taoist philosophy, which says that if there is an up, there must be a down. if there is a right, there must be a left. if there is a nose, there should be a tail, here the main thing is to balance and balance, so it seems to me that this is where we started in this design, yes, a comma but uh, well, at least, well, if it doesn’t outweigh, then it will be very significant. thank you very much advertising
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wings over berlin big premiere on 9 may on the first thing that, for obvious reasons, concerns the citizens of russia as military actions in ukraine as an action of the ukrainian authorities, how can they affect normal life in russia and yet life in russia? this, of course, is a great merit of both the russian armed forces and the russian authorities are still
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very limited. what can be done so that zelensky and i don’t know what to call their colleagues, not colleagues, but members of his group, so that they have a clear understanding that trying to disrupt normal life in russia may turn out to be for them, darov you know, they are already uh disrupting the normal flow of life in the border regions by asking the west for more uh longer range missiles in order to reach formerly cities,
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uh deep in russian territory. uh, so far the west is very restrained in this regard , fearing an uncontrolled escalation, but, on the other hand, the ukrainians. e. now there is a tendency to unleash such a terrorist activity, you know, a terrorist war. e even the statement e of officials. uh, when one talks about that it is necessary to switch to basayev's tactics of capturing, uh, small towns in the border areas, others say that it is necessary to carry out the more terrorist acts, even if not very large ones, the better . uh, undermining e-e tracks in the belgorod region.
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as a result, it went off the tracks, uh, the freight train is and uh, various , well, political assassinations are, uh, shelling, uh, by drones, not like shelling, but strikes by unmanned, uh, surface, uh, ships sevastopol was also shelled by, uh, unmanned strike weapons of sevastopol here just yesterday, so i would not say that life in the border areas is completely normal, but from my point of view. you just have to be very tough. i think, as i think, that here is a blow to the pavlograd - it was a kind of. the answer to uh, the last series , what it was, was strikes against concentrations of ukrainian troops and equipment that they had been accumulating over the past few months for uh, the start of their
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famous offensive on most likely on south direction. although from there they also supplied the group, which is living its last days. uh, in artyomovsk or bakhmuti and uh, a group that resists vovdeevka, therefore, i think that what the west is afraid of, we provide missiles to me, i am absolutely sure that the west, uh, is afraid of the beginning of such carpet bombings of u ukrainian cities, because russia is quite capable of russia is quite able to do because not for nothing. uh, the kyiv authorities are just begging. uh, the west put them. uh, the more, well, the maximum number of air defense systems forgetting about that air defense systems are not tanks. this is very uh, expensive technological and difficult and long systems to manufacture, there are not so many of them in service. even the same united states
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of america is not superfluous, and the fact that, uh, they announced that another battery, uh, patriot arrived in ukraine but these are four launchers . well, you can cover up some object, but they objectively lack air defense means, e-e missiles for our complexes. they are already coming to an end. they are not produced in ukraine what they are ready to supply americans. the same there are 4.000, zu-rockets are rockets. eh, air. uh, air to air, unguided missiles, this does not solve those problems of creating a layered anti-aircraft defense. on defense, to prevent, uh, indeed, such very massive bombardments of ukrainian cities. e. it seems to me that you are absolutely right, general, what is better is the most effective and quite accessible for russia, e, the defense of its territory. this, of course, is a vision of successful
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operations in ukraine and the last blow to pavlodar to interpret this as an answer on ukrainian provocations of terrorist attacks, but he needs to be considered as a completely meaningful and expedient military operation to prevent. e ukrainian offensive, but nonetheless. i'm worried i won't hide from you. what for the curators and admirers of ukraine for all their devotion to ukraine, even the carpet bombing of ukraine will not scare them very much, because after all, their love for ukraine does not go so far that they really worry about ukrainian civilians, so my question is conndronic. is it possible somehow from your point
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from a practical point of view, to convince the administration of the war to convince significantly, at least part of congress, of course, their information that if they cross into some kind of red line in russia and there is no need to mark this red line , everyone understands, that strikes on russian territory, associated with great destruction and loss of life, this is a red line for any normal state, including the united states. if the opportunity to convince the united states do not eat on strikes yet on the united states. is it possible to convince them that they are playing a very risky game, knowing the usa i have been dealing with this country all my life. i know that they cannot be convinced of anything by the means of persuading the american administration alone. this infliction of a heavy defeat on ukraine is a threat to the liquidation of ukraine as a state, only in this
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case the american administration will look for its place, because as soon as such blows are delivered. this will ricochet attacks on america against the washington administration of the babayd, but personally they will simply lose everything after afghanistan, it will be second biggest defeat, because biden himself raised the issue. so this is our war. this is, firstly, not only will be the defeat of america, it will be the defeat of democracy against authoritarianism, well, as authoritarian regimes. they 're looking at us and china first . well, this big thing will have consequences. so we don't need to hit america. we need to achieve a decisive turning point in ukraine. this, of course, is very wise. uh, let's say this again, uh, uh, uh, in
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ukraine, i don't know what you all think the rest it's obvious to me that this is a fundamental task of the russian leadership, but if the russian leadership, uh, so uh, is focused on this task, that they are doing nothing else that will keep the country safe. it would not be the russian leadership that i know. well, to convince washington with words is a waste of time. you can find some words and some formulas so that washington understands from my point of view one obvious truth that there are some things that russia will not allow itself to do without a really very hard a and a destructive answer for the west, or even wrong. this is a hopeless case, you know, and no, it seems to me that mine is naturally and closely
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incomparable with the experience of andronik in vsevich. uh, length of stay in the united states and communication with colleagues. e, says that there is still some kind of line, indeed , this is all, it is, but something at the end, as they say, they understand. after all, they are, well, not really, what is called untethered there are some things, well, first of all, related to the quantity and quality of military potential defense potential of our country, which in america well at least. at the very least, i would like to hope that those who understand this, the military unit still takes into account, but a serious response to the situation. it seems to me impossible, including at this time, including due to the electoral cycle. we are now at that stage, when in general, er, any serious changes in us policy were impossible, i fully understand that in
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america they are very reluctant, but they recognize it. the truth is obvious to me. what makes action opposition? and what though america manages to do in relation to others? and the fact that others will think very much to make america's relations but it all works up to, well, a certain limit. i understand well. uh, american unique experience uh general. in general, in america there was only one serious war on american soil. and that, when americans killed americans, i'm talking about the civil war and more than 600,000 more people died in that war than the united states lost in world war ii on both fronts. i mean europe in the pacific is a fact, and so here, but take seriously
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what you have never experienced. it's not easy psychologically, but here's a question i have for you. america has fought many other wars. and that's when i look at these warriors. in general, it turns out that when american coffins begin to come back to the united states. yes, it makes a very big very big impression. and uh, it doesn't have to be that many in the tens of thousands, like in the case of the korean war or the vietnam war, it could be in the hundreds. maybe a few thousand, like it was in iraq ; it could be again in the hundreds, a few thousand, like it was in afghanistan, and that's why i'm wondering.
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and if the americans, in order to help e zelensky, but go over to some line and become a real participant in the war and become real decisions, then this can greatly affect american psychology, especially on the eve of the elections, and they say that russia should do this, because this is a very terrible decision. and the last thing i want to recommend is some strikes on the united states. well, i want to say that there are some objective historical processes. and now it is obvious to me that if the escalation in ukraine is not brought under control, then there will be a real threat, not only to ukrainians. but of course, their patron, which
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amazes me. uh, me lately. uh, i read a lot of uh analytical papers and uh research centers like rand, uh si. e, s. and uh , the congressional analytical service amazes me, uh, the estimates that they refer to by american intelligence. they seriously compare our capabilities in aviation with ukrainian capabilities, despite the fact that he cites numbers. here is the latest congressional report that we have 1.38 aircraft , and there are less than a hundred ukrainians left there, but still our capabilities are comparable to the same and the air defense is the same in all other components. and this is really amazing. it seems to me that they convinced themselves that the ukrainians are quite capable of winning uh, victory and uh. indeed, only a decisive defeat of the ukrainian group can induce them to change their position.
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if we are talking about the american elite, it is very, very difficult for them to reach out and shout out. unless something happens that obviously hurts or could soon hurt the united states . but this summer. i walked several times around the territory adjacent to the house in which we lived in america and ran into my neighbors , it's 100 kilometers from washington well, it's like, as if another country is rural, the area is conservative people elect republican congressmen, and since everyone is at home there located very far from each other, then you practically do not collide with everyone. and here i am walking along this dirt path, and on
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which there are very few cars, rare traffic, and several times the neighbors know who and where they stopped and started a conversation with me. and what is uh we're doing in the ukraine didn't mean russia they meant the united states would they lead to a mechanical united states war? one even asked me. now, if they are russians, and the results of the explosion will bang the big rockets raised to us, but will they reach or not? so, you understand, uh, i have a feeling that when you talk about the real america it's not that they support russia against ukraine but they are absolutely not ready to fight for ukraine. they don't see.
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what is really interesting for them in ukraine, and it seems to me that this is the thought of this fact, and one way or another it will reach, if you want to the political consciousness of those who make decisions in america that if they cross a certain line of their escalation, then this will become an american domestic political problem, and then i won’t i'm afraid to predict, using my favorite expression serge. i'm lavrov then the biden administration will not show a little from their own voters it was a big game meet tomorrow on the air.
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