[000:00:00;00] along the whole line, the prize will not be given no scandal grandiosity was brewing absolutely yes, and in the end, nevertheless, chukhrai and the jury members won the owl received the prize, said from the stage that this was especially important for him , the most important principle, because he received it in the soviet union and to some extent the situation was saved, but in the following years it has already become customary that three main prizes are awarded one film to the soviet another film from the capitalist countries and a third film from the eastern bloc or from one of the countries of asia or latin america i remind you that this eisenstein's witnesses podcast where we film historians natalya ryabchikova and stanislav divinsky talk about who and how created the classic forgotten cult unknown soviet films and how they were watched, today we are talking about exactly this about how the moscow international

film festival was held in classic during the years of its existence, recalls a very characteristic story of a dispute with one of the members of the jury, which happened to him when they discussed the film empty reis, the content of this film absolutely eluded foreigners because they didn't understand. what is the collision. why one of the main characters of this film, a truck driver , cuts off the road when he drives from the forest station, the regional center harvesting, that's why he drains gasoline in the taiga. after all, it is meaningless to explain for the sake of the premiere in order to receive a socialist premium . but what a big prize there is is practically symbolic for your money. well, why does he do it then? well, that is, in general, but for foreigners absolutely slipped some realities that were familiar to residents of the soviet union for the audience of the soviet union, and they really just sometimes did not understand the logic of the characters' actions. and therefore actually this film has caused some certain scandal. let's see,

in fact, an excerpt from it, the main role is played by alexander demyanenko, a journalist who comes to write an article about this state farm. here also discovers here this property secret if this gasoline. you see how much you know, nikolai handwriting about you, i have almost finished will be called ultralespromhoza nothing, huh? you you know, i’m sure that not only someone could write, what are you thinking about today, but also what you will think about tomorrow, the day after tomorrow that when you go home to moscow, now soon it remains only to explain artistically how you manage to achieve success. ride tomorrow. and tomorrow i say, go collect the fact and flutter from here, the wolf will bite. and

then they will say chrome shoved, you do not take the hassle. ride. here, after all, the chukhra, apparently, managed to find compromises. the film was given a silver award. in general, it must be said that the award at the moscow classical festival was very a lot of. here are three main prizes, then another for an actor and an actress, and another silver and some other minor ones, and, uh, a special prize from the organizing committee and a special prize from the union of some professions and smaller ones and, in general, the full list is quite significant . and this actually reduced the value of the prizes of the moscow festival, because if everyone receives awards, if friendship won, then it turns out that no one won, and chukhrai just again notes in his memoirs that after the story with the filin from the film eight and a half prestige of moscow fillet festival in the world began to slowly decline, because for soviet cinema

, by definition, a soviet film is better than all non-soviet films, so it was impossible not to give a prize, and it was also difficult for one of those soviet films that participate in the program. i think to explain to foreign guests. well, by the way, one of the first soviet winners, even before the scandal with fellini, was , in general, a film that still remains a classic of soviet cinema - this is a film from sergei bondarchuk, the fate of a man. it seems to me that you can see this fragment, to see. and what did the moscow audience watch then, and what did the jury judge at the moscow festival? vanyushka do you know

who i am? i am your father. i've waited so long before my dear one finds me. the cap was frequent. well, you can say that you are always at the moscow festival, because his film war and peace was also one of the participants in the program, a colossus one of the main films of the sixties. and in general, when a chukhrai says that the festival is a little losing its significance for the big world, nevertheless, in the soviet union it turns out to be more and more meaning, because for the audience it is such a window to the world, but thanks to which the audience opened themselves to world cinema. and in general it cannot be said that the festival was just that, deprived of the attention of the stars. here, of course, fucking exaggerate a little, for example, and in the late seventies, significant events took place, when francis ford coppola , the director of the film godmother seats, the conversations

of many others bring their hottest novelty to the festival. moscow film apocalypse of our days or apocalypse today we bring a version that we have not seen in another world, a version that has a different ending where when the main character refuses to commit a murder, he simply throws a knife, refusing this fate, which the circumstances themselves impose on him. yes, he does not kill the colonel a little bit, and the very bivalence of this tape was somehow clearly demonstrated precisely at this session, that in general this film could have such an ending, but it could have been different and this did not affect the artistic fabric as a whole the film has changed in perception, but the impression that the audience received has not changed the eighties is the peak of the moscow festival, because after long years of stagnation in the soviet union, perestroika begins and at the end of the eighties another festival takes place. where absolutely all the stars converge. well, no, everyone, of course, but a lot of big names are coming. robert de niro

is coming. well, a lot of different stars. depardieu marchela. some kind of mood was absolutely incredible at the festival in 87, when really, uh, on the wave of some kind of transformation of the soviet. aggression after the fifth congress of soviet trophists after the release of many films on the shelf is incredibly interested in what is happening in the soviet union, including in the field of cinema, and this year one of the notable films of the festival was the film, courier of course, azarova we have a small piece. you can see. what was the feeling then of the audience of this film? see. everything is taken with hostility , everything is made into a performance of buffoonery, elevated to the principle we do not need anything. we all know this is a fundamental question. i

we our generation wants to know who we are for lived and fought. the building we erected. and what, actually worry, it would be interesting to know the principles of the young man. according to which you are going to exist in the most uncomplicated society, i would like to have a decent salary, a car, an apartment in the city center and a cottage in its vicinity. and even less work. well, material wealth is necessary in this there is nothing warning. in general, this is one of my favorite fragments from this film, it is so vividly shown there. this is the difference between generations, the generation that knows everything words, but we see the emptiness behind them and the generation that is new, which is trying to break out, including from under the power of these words, from under the power of this generation of the previous one, and, in general, declares

that it wants, but this declares this frankly in this sense, films become like such a window into reality. yes, it's not just a work of art. this is an opportunity to see the changes that are taking place in society. we sometimes forget that this is not just a work of art that is created in a vacuum. yeah that's what somehow reflects the moment in which the film is made, even if the plot of the film does not actually refer to that moment. yes, that's why the space text is very important, because very often the moscow festival today is scolded for competitive films, which, in order to well, often do not correspond, but to the level of a critic who is accustomed only to a masterpiece of world cinema, and love festival actually , this is a selection screening, because this is the crucible through which it must pass, and the ratings, and with the jury of the audience, but the film before, than someone will decide that this is really a masterpiece or not a masterpiece in the nineties, the moscow festival

is undergoing the same way as russian cinema in general, but turbulent times, because, in principle, this dichotomy is disintegrating east west and we at some point from er, the biennial festival we move on to the annual festival, because you no longer need to look at karlovy vary and not really, of course. what, for example, domestic films can be shown, because in the early nineties, at least there are not very many of them removed. and at the same time, new festivals are being born, the moscow festival no longer competes with world festivals within the country, because the 1990s appear on the taurus, there are film shocks and as a result, uh, the festival is reoriented in many respects already to asian cinema, for example, washing there. yes, very often there are strong programs dedicated to asian cinema, in principle, this is openness, and post-soviet russia to the world, including from the point of view of festivals, for the moscow festival has become a little bit. e additional

complexity, because now big films, and could get to big festivals. yes, we have such a group of directors, for example, and pavel, you can remember who often worked in production in the nineties and some films he came across various european festivals and already this is the right of the first show. yes, and compliance with the parameters of the festival class, and moscow could no longer participate in this, while the fact that we really have the opportunity now to watch anything, anytime, or rather, we have such a feeling. that's the thing most importantly, we have the feeling that, in principle, everything is available to us. this feeling, uh, began to appear with the advent of video cassettes, video rentals of video salons, then disks, computers, streaming, and it seems that, in general, we don’t need to specially go to some event that takes place once a year and watch a certain selection of films there, which someone selected for us, it seems that well, why, but at the same time there are a lot of films.

it's just that oil never gets on streaming, but not in rentals. and we will never see them. these films. just like the soviet spectators. those who missed 8 1/2 at the moscow festival in the sixties did not see it at the box office, so here we don’t know what kind of masterpiece we will see today or tomorrow at the festival and will we be able to watch it later when he tells the experience of visiting moscow festival. it has always been for the past 20 years and has always been a lottery. you never really know . you only have an abstract in your hands, maybe something and they say the names of the creator or the authors of this film, but you never know what you are facing, sometimes happened. i would just like a sharashina from some films. uh, but this really is a lottery that happens every 10-20 films. by the way, i said that we have a feeling that we can now look. and that’s all, but often it’s difficult for us to do all this at the same time. actually, yes choose here we choose at random

the festival is good. also the fact that there is really a certain person who really selects films. and here are the programs. this is something that is very important at any festival, including the moscow one. over the past 15 years, it has always you could go to any movie documentary program because it's, uh, going for quite a while. it is assembled by wonderful professionals. it really is cream. you can't go wrong with a documentary program or a retrospective, yes. and there was a retrospective for a while. the same dmitriev yes vladimir dmitriev from samo. yes, when we look at films, let's say from e soviet cinema, which passed by the big screen, or have we forgotten about them, or are they so shelved? what are they even on television do not get photos have their own festivals, which used to be called white pillars. i now call the festival of archival films, and in this sense , another root competitor has appeared at the moscow festival,

and in general, its main task in the future is to reinvent itself. yes, and time will tell , and it was a tackle by eisenstein's witnesses and we are his leading film historians natalya ryabchikova and stanislavsky, we are talking in this podcast about who and how created the classic famous little-known cult soviet films about how to better understand them now and how to get the most out of them. goodbye. thank you bye. hi all. my name is tatyana gevorkyan, this is a podcast of a stupid shit and today we will talk about fashion as an industry and as a social phenomenon. today my guest is a journalist, blogger and a person who is

truly passionate about fashion arina kholina designer. svetlana rodina hello girls hello, joke, girls. you can just say, hello girls , let's start right from the beginning, how trends are formed, who invents them, who dictates them or borrows them already from some existing 20 years ago about color trends. there is such an ingenious classic story, the tenth is 60. well, in principle, to europe, europe is just in the post-war crisis and cognac, in which we know cognac, of course, the drink and they say, we armenians called, then they suddenly asked for a dramatic drop in sales . well, it’s almost despair, and someone from well , from some final company there had some kind of connection with a fabric factory and a person comes up with such a story and persuades this e fabric manufacturer. well, in principle, the fashion

industry is also not on the rise at that moment, yes, the entire economy in europe is destroyed. so in general, he didn't care whether it was a gray cloth or a skate-colored cloth. they, in principle, took some more or less their own brown fabric. they called this color like cognac accordingly, they persuaded some diors there conditionally, yes, to introduce this color and cognac just happened. well, first of all, it was very fashionable to be in cognac color, that is, brown clothes, and it turned out to be some incredible growth. simply phenomenal, they raised themselves again to super heights. well, uh, again, when it appears now, there is the color of champagne. yes, an observation according to this scheme, and because we really have a designation of colors in russian. they are what they are, and in english they have the color cognac. they've got color, camel, well done they 've got champagne, why don't we? uh, very

camels. while these magazines of ours were still there , you are not used once a month. uh, like, oh, this week's trend is again surprise color champagne went to champagne flowers, for example, today we looked at you have the color of a champagne flower. and you typical cocoa, yes , more champagne. this is where the designers would probably call it. what is the name, intelligence me necessarily ocher, but ocher? yes, i have. well, what yes, it's more crucian, like ocher pigments, but i know a little about what i wanted to add, what, for example, is amazing in russia. there are crafts and lace. yes , and embroidery and this russian craft, i want to say that, for example, when we are in japan presented the first collection, then japan for example, yes, beans there they had such a beautiful woman to the way they adore the traditions of our own. why are we taking so long? this is the post-soviet time they denied what? no, no, no, we are not russians. oh, no, no, really russian speech. heard

abroad. we are all encrypted. we are all under them. this is disgusting, because in fact we have amazing roots, we have incredible traditions in russia, and actually , just the idea is to take from there, and that experience. truly global because well, it’s a sin to hide in france, uh, fashion was in italy, it was and there really is amazing fashion in america, but we, for example, now there are those people who are not us in fashion, in general, now we are on our own, we ourselves are so cool well done that too what is wrong is that they have a lot that can be adopted by adapting for us, see now there has been such a trend. you all remember, we all remember plus or minus everything, the end of the nineties yes, the beginning of the two thousandth trend for sexuality feminine silhouettes are things that you, too, once find in your wardrobe, old. they seem to be two sizes too small. and now the fashion for oversize oversize is convenience. this is a bodysuit,

does this positively mean that a woman began to dress for herself, and not for men, that is, now they are less trying to emphasize sexuality. you know, it seems to me that just now, firstly, everything has returned some kind of corsets. you know, another cover, that's what you said, it's not only we got fat on the topic . then you don’t understand how she so-so digs into the armpit, but a little different. the main material is different. he has almost all the material now about the meeting. it is more comfortable breathable and the technology itself materials, if they are semi-synthetic there, uh, they are very comfortable in a different way than the same flour of the nineties for example. and listen, well, firstly, since the nineties it was already kenneth there, then the universe came. uh, was there a japanese and a garsion room, and this is generally a separate system. this is the story, how were the belgians too

huh? well, listen, it's still a lot, so it's not quite something wild, right niche , when it was called smart fashion yes, now it's, well, it's somehow different, we throw it away, but firstly, it depends on the fabrics. if only she was such a hoodie for me. some kind of translucent from some kind of veil, i don’t know felt wool, it would fit in a different way and would show the body sexuality, in general, this is not about over or slim here. eh, here i will hold you for sure. yes, it's just that men don't take part in our conversation. i think they are talking about oversize, how to swing even posting. yes, if take, then, for example, the more over the thing, the more feminine, for example, a woman looks in it. realistically, for example, a woman. look, it's great there. skinny fat. it's all in the head. tan, well, that we are here already, all this is only tall and thin. and that's just high.

or it may be that it turns out that if the trends are dictated by designers, then let's say. i love auvers very much. this is of course, after all , they also suddenly realized behind it, for example , during the pandemic, what about, but how convenient it is to walk. let's go, we'll be this trend just wear it all. i think that, most likely, of course, also a social manifestation . everyone was sitting at home. remember at some point, surely you know there was a surge, after everyone went out, everyone went in sweatpants. e in such at home. yes, it's so convenient and really everyone understood that you can, like, not meet every day. you can spend there like on zoom, if you started to appreciate the time of communication, there is something else yes, and things , including, i think, then everyone got tired of it and feathers appeared, food, too, you understand, yes, how it works too, like at some point, for example, after the pandemic, for example, the color of pontoon was the main one . uh,

trend bureau. e, for example, described how the explosion of lava was like an avalanche came out so people came out, like, you know, now the conclusion of the feeling was that everything was really great. bright super shiny, yes, that is, it was really. a holiday like this, when you know everything, the same imprisonment came out over well look how great it looks. take the same one there gigi hadis was, yes, and thin waists, low-rise super overjeans some huge dicks, and i think it's super in uh, well, this is a reflection of all social phenomena of social political phenomena. yes world. well, as far as i remember, here. uh, very cool to the whole world with promoted then still a vetman, uh, vassal. she came out in this kind of down jacket. there is a down jacket somewhere in the back. well, its somehow a cut. there, of course, some kind of bra stuck out, what is it? she in she looked unbelievably hot, so look at who we're dressing for and that's sexy. listen, well, i now think that when people make a big mistake for me.

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get married. well, preferably not quite for the bastard and loafer. yes, i'll surprise you , nothing has changed. a very different world. wait. i say, it’s very frankly arguing that everything has changed. so, in short, naturally, if you have a super-task, you try to achieve it as much as possible by all means at once. what are the last year's trends that have mitigated? well, over you yourself said over a long time ago. well, you know, it’s more or less each corsets i don’t mean, you know right, that’s all the same t-shirts corsets. well type, when it is simply sewn under a corset, well, that is, a silhouette and pseudo. that's right. so let's say. yes, so to speak, yes, personal pain is what is gone, uh, low- waisted jeans are back. here is a low waist, which returned everywhere. i'm low waisted now, how is she? i have always loved, just to bare animals. you have it like this, how it was

right at zero. yeah, i believe me, i went to college. i had low waisted jeans and underwear 20s and a short jacket. i walked here with a bare stomach at -20 as a child. everything is different in youth it was now nothing returns in the form of a dictatorship. now moon is returning again, i don’t know where they went, but conditionally. yes, it’s like what’s rattling there, well, it’s equal again. yes, people are already tired. chasing trends in general, many designers rely on basic wardrobes, so fashion is a phenomenon that represents new trends every season. it’s already somehow a little outdated , doesn’t it seem to you that fashion, as a phenomenon, on the contrary, is even more relevant, because motov, in principle, is like that, and some, if we take it is the fash industry, as a reflection of social reality and designers who analyze like analysts, yes , fashion trends a year ahead, because a

collection for buyers enters the fashion market for the first time, that is, yes, for experiments further for a month already with retail in another it’s been put on the market for half a year, but now designers are really working on a collection , and next summer there are already people for whom clothes are utilitarian, in principle, there’s nothing wrong with this series, i don’t know, i bought jeans and made some kind of jersey to it was warm and some part there are people we are not about fashion we have our own. a unique style is not necessarily some kind of bohemian creative profession. here, the girl tave was a superstar of the 2000s, but who generally lived in some kind of deaf, but american village, and she picked up some kind of junk in the local second-hand store, and it was so stylized that after literally 2 years she was already called to the shows by anna winter yes, the editor-in-chief of the american volga, that is, there is such a power, such a plast and people in the middle. that is, i am generally on this youth cannot be beaten on the contrary and they rave and create their own. and there are people

who want to look somehow strong in terms of such and such a time. yes, they have some time for such and such a season, but if they are ready to pay, she has the certainty to pay attention, to somehow force herself to shop there. there read stylists that combines some color. well, at the same time, they do not have such an obsession with it and they need fashion, because it is logical. it is clear to them that it is easier to navigate specific trends. and so fashion they will never leave this concept, because i bet. well, of course, i would now think that