we are constantly at the computer. i just pushed her, he disfigured her whole psyche. work all of us with the child on the street the child you have no more. forget it, harmless man, kind, who really wanted to be happy in life, we returned you to the studio so that you could meet one more relative here. confrontation. good afternoon in one very small room.

hello natalya shalagina from novosibirsk today in our studio. i came to your program to get help because i'm afraid to be alone with a sick child on the street. you sit down, please, and tell me what happened to you. he humiliates me. who is this ex-husband? yura constantly humiliates me and calls me names. you and this ex- husband yura have a child. that's right, the world is so radomir how old radomir is 7 years old 7 years old, how long ago you and your husband divorced for 3 years already. well, he constantly kicks me out and says that you began to live together after the divorce. yes, yes. where do you live? what is in one house? here in this house, which they showed that we have one hall there, and we are all in this hall we live someone whose yurin is your ex. well, he

bought it in marriage, yes, when my mother was still alive, and just like yura's mother, mother is old, and of course. everything went to yura like this. and whose house is this, what did you buy it for? whose house it was , they sold it into a three-room apartment, which was for my mother, so everything and the apartment, they bought a house, and arranged everything. he is on himself, yes, so , maternity capital was invested in the house, yes, after she gave birth to a child in 2-3 years, which means that your child should have a share in this house. no, i invested maternity capital, and he we did not do any shares. we forced him to do all this at the trial, and he says, i will make a share only for him. on the child, and then he was forced to do it through the court. and how do you live? do you all live together in the same room in this house?

but how did you get divorced, and you have one room, we have one sofa and we have to, he sleeps by the stove , the child is in the middle, and i’m from the edge to watch the child, when he wants to drink , pee, change my first, well, before it was a civil marriage. there are children , there is also an older son, he is 23 years old. and where is he sits, where in jail? yes, why is there a small petty theft, let 's return to your youngest son when the world, and he has some kind of diagnosis. yes , we have been diagnosed with mild retardation. let's look here, mental development lags far behind age requirements , and then the child needs to create special educational conditions. now the child is engaged with specialists in a special institution. last year, i can’t walk now, it’s not working here because of illness, what does it mean it’s not working, if this a strong recommendation for the child to develop normally. i understand we

went to our place, you now live on a pension for a child. i completed before. i can not retire, it turns out for a child to care for a child. the state pays you a salary. this is your childcare pension. so, you have to take care of him, so you have to take care of him, but in fact it turns out that you are paid a salary for nothing, because you do not take care of your child, only for benefits or maybe, after all, alimony. on the elements i will kick you out from home it is permanent, please, who else lives with you in this same room, who is mom dad? whose mom is my dad, not in november arrived. well, let's just help them. something, but listen. you say that he is such a monster that he kicks you out of the house, but nevertheless, in fact

, mom and your dad came to this one room in his house, because we play where, in my opinion, where we clean, where we fix what you told about him and the facts that you have now voiced to us. these are two completely different stories. and if you came here lie. then you will leave here not just disgraced throughout the country, but without a child. because what we have just heard is an absolute crime, the child requires individual care and classes and does not receive anything, because you and your husband bark, but at the same time your parents from uzbekistan live with you. let's take a look at this nightmare breeze. he says that i kept everything here, although all the things are practically here for him.

this is where i sleep. i'm a child here, that one, dad is sleeping on the floor here. mom a yura sleeps there on the bed. here we have a camera. it's not pleasant, that the camera, because it sometimes shows what i do at home, when i cover the camera with a mask, he thinks that a child brought someone into the house. here he is constantly looking after him, he does not talk to us. if he wants to drink, he takes it, he takes a bottle, open it and pour some water, he doesn’t want it now. here they are, all his toys, something will break, he immediately gets nervous and shouts that we

bathe him in this basin, it’s very hard. he wakes up. i say, come to me, mother fillili or he himself gives a kiss. to live in this house is very hard with such a child. i am very tired. what are you constantly tired of? calls me names will kill any one position. listen. you have one position very comfortable. i can't do anything because he

constantly calls me names and beats me. so you yourself , he is dissatisfied with everything, even something is dissatisfied with the fact that you have such dirt in the apartment in the house that i can’t do repairs man. he must do the same thing. why is there a camera in the house? and who put her baby and think that someone somewhere has something maybe steal his mania, please, when your bathhouse burned down. last year in december i had a sensitive issue. we have seen how you bathe a child. how do you wash yourself? i don't wash. i wipe myself or if the neighbors allow they will call. i'm going when the neighbors last called you to wash on december 30th. yura bathes at work. every day he

works 5 days and 2 days off. that is, your ex-spouse works, yes, but he gives you money for groceries. only when i ask. and so he has loans he now has 300 thousand. i receive a pension and care for the child. you are cooking cooking. everything, i buy. all this money is not there, because there were beatings such that they didn’t break, didn’t kill, i say again, he was punished,

because again the child is left alone. there is no one to look after him. tell me, do you beat her? well, as i killed her, i don’t beat him, but only when i was like that they would somehow quarrel, the child sleeps at night. i say shut your mouth shut. mouth, the baby is sleeping, no need to feed the psycho all night. she yells at her just pushed and maybe i didn't hit then. just me because she is my mother didn’t call him at 2:00 am at 2:00 am. i don't know among themselves quietly quietly why in the story it starts take care of me prepared for this for some kind of action and call the police that they bake me so that i sit down. i don't know what it will give. why did you let all these people into your house. mom her dad why do you need them? well well, so that it is convenient for you, you come on the phone now and asked you, but i can kick them out of but what who better to think about, but there is nowhere to just

take them. here, help me where no matter how he now receives without money , now he does not receive it. i just entered the position of parents, i accepted it for myself. so far, she's taking good care of the baby. no bad, constantly at the computer. i say, expel the work done, then sit down at the computer. i will come from work. yura gave birth to her, then she sits at the computer all the time often very often. what is she doing there? i don’t know, he plays his game all sorts of nonsense, everything is so childish, who is doing what the child is doing at this time , the child also happens to be a computer he to do when i have time, i taught him candy. it's because when i 'm working, she distracts you from looking after him working. now we need to be quiet. no to you. this is where we need to pause and think. so in the end, i'll say,

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convinced that after the program you will have big problems with the organs. wards, very large in prison, who will ask you now? reply. you tell me how the house, in which the maternal the capital is issued only to you, where the child's share is. i was waiting for the court's decision. when it will be because the court decision, when it was in the nineteenth year, yes, and now what year i was not dad then. why

was a child without a share in the house between going and made an abyss? . ah. why is the second room not inhabited? in this room, my mother died and now the rabbits have settled here. 17 krylov and three krylov left, we thought we would sell something, or the wing would go to king meat or sell it alive, but i told her, you can’t do this. you're not like she didn't listen to me. i want to make a separate room here. here i want to put a bed computer table. there in the corner i want to put and for the fact that we cannot, uh, agree. we huddle together, all in one in one room. our neighbors are doing well. so i love porches. he kill i can't baby i get 6 1/2 somewhere thousand there and couldn't do it i don’t earn money on them to buy a computer. well, i

love technology. i'm just sick, she burned down not so long ago. i went to heat the stove and then above me. the first floor arose, it didn’t suffer much, but the second floor is very much everything burned down the child pays off at home natalya doesn’t wash anywhere to wash, but i wash at work. this is a mockery, not only of rabbits, not only of yourself, since you have a living space that you do not occupy, rabbits live there, this is a mockery of common sense. why breed rabbits? i don't know how from them get rid of. i just can't throw it out on the street. give no one no one hold. now we are right there. please tell the child it's dangerous with them, of course it's dangerous. and uh, i yes, the thing is that you understand, like natalya, uh, she

, by virtue of her, let's say, and mental, uh , capabilities, believes that it is enough to feed the child at the same time, uh, as he has certain developmental features. she pays no attention to them. that is, he lives, since the rabbit is about. yes, he takes what he wants, but eats what he wants always e for her. eh, the mental development of the child is not at the forefront, and therefore, of course, here, it seems to be full, it seems to have been washed and everything is fine. yes, i understand, i just don’t understand what i’m talking about, i just don’t understand what raisa anatolyevna ivanova, mother natalya, was thinking about when she settled in this room, where there was already a disabled child and divorced spouses. let's ask her raisa anatolyevna come to us. and what are you

doing in yura's house, well, we were called to help. if he called you, daughter, he says, this is her house, your daughters, well, they chewed. and how does she could invite you to someone else's house? he agreed that it was beneficial for him, because she did not want to work at home. i don't want to work for a child. everything else, of course, i do. dad and i ask, now they are with you. ah, why isn't she taking care of the baby? she deals with him all the time, he is not from her, how can you tell me what she does with the child, what she feeds, looks at him further, what. well,

as they say, we raised it for seven years. what is she doing to him that she talks like that ? what else does she change clothes? just in case ask? he can't water her uh-huh he will ask, then he will ask for books, reads toys, plays. if anything, ask for this book. it is the computer that leads by the hand. he is constantly on the computer. what does he do on the computer ? he she. if he does not understand, he takes the hand and leads. she is engaged in everything , talking, that is, her child plays on the computer all the time. i want you to understand that your daughter's problems are now very big consultation about what she should like. how often to do with a child she

does not? nothing just drone organs, guardianship will go to court you will limit parental rights you do anything? you can’t, because you don’t change, in fact, you have nowhere to go. once again i say, then you will be deprived of the parental rights of the child to attach a family where he will be cared for . i only have a child, all your parents are gone. yes , yura, no, you have an aunt. she could not come, but she told us something. natasha is an inadequate person, deceitful and uneconomic, she came to me so that i could register her, but i refused her registration, she me what only nasty words on the phone everyone. she cursed me in every way. lyuba called all the time, natasha scoffs at the bottom. she broke her fingers. she pierced her head even when yuri

natets was alive, but she also mocked him and he either could not stand it, or that he stabbed you with a knife in the stomach of yura, he is calm and not scandalous. she kept asking yura to prescribe her. she said, if only i don't get anything. i will burn you. well, he told her. i will not prescribe. here is the child you will give birth to. she says he's asking. he doesn't need a child. it was she who personally told me personally, i don’t need a child. i say why yura asks in the apartment it was dirty, not fictitious, and she was lying all the time a boy. this little one will put his cartoons on and stupidly this child looks stupidly. yura said one thing about the child, that i have no time to study. i come to work late. he is already sleeping. she will not work anywhere and has not worked. will not work anywhere. and it was she who dragged these parents of hers, who did not earn. there's nothing. let them take her to their place and live with such a smart and good one. we can

leave tomorrow, we have nothing to do there. where go so igor and he wants it even as. and let's ask him and come to us lying all the time. and that you are a man in general or who , and that i offered everything, where i will live, yes, they sent me to three parts, but it doesn’t bother you that your nephew needs help, everything confuses me all the time. don’t give a good kick so that she takes care of the child for both her and him all the time, where is the crib i ask where it is for her child i always overthrow too. your sister is not engaged in the child is engaged. she doesn't do it. your mother, now not benny, manny crow could not say that your sister is making the child mentally disfigured. well, for so many years. give five days to the situation and i

don't care at all. how do you live absolutely me here now i do not have the slightest sympathy. here to all of you who is sitting here, no, no, and it cannot be, you are adults. yes, and you will not get any help from us, except for one child they will take away from her. let them take what i am could i could advise, what to do will have to be a child, i have no reason to live, but i did not find it. live wait you have another child. yes? eat? well, you and you i 'm helping, why is there a child, right? and, when we were last on a date , now where he sits, you can’t go there. we talked to your neighbors and listened to their opinion. and you? natalya is our neighbor,

she is a complex person. if she has at least sections in the comments, then you won’t get essays for a long time with the child. i didn't see her go anywhere with him. that's just if the store, she and her husband swear, the child starts screaming. naturally, the child is frightened, the child needs to be engaged, especially since someone would come to the house with such an autist to deal with him. i have never seen this. it seems that you can communicate like that, we throw snow, we communicate normally. something that will find something on her here with her, some have thrown a scandal again. actually with my channel. it happens so little at home, he is constantly at work constantly cursing. i natasha brought my grandmother to death , forced the packages to be washed in the winter. why them wash for them in the store for free. how much yura is a rather docile and good -night person is excitable, but this one has always aroused a person once. compliant people fought and fought and militia after militia. i feel

sorry for the child. i'm very sorry. i saw him, only twice, when he was born, and now at night. yes, i need i can manage somehow. let the man take away the capital from the child, please quietly do not talk, all the security in the studio. call everything i say again, i don’t have nerves. i just need to give two. no, wait. i am very i still want her to be present, when the next heroine comes out. it's important truth. now i just want to look at this dialogue olga garifullina let's call her. i don't know her, don't talk. you don't know her, you don't know, i'm such olga garifullina this is her mother, how lovely? hello natasha, your olya, how much did you spend my nerve? look how clean you

are, how good i am. what have i done to you? don't believe any of her, then i 'll make you a drone that i've never tried to work with, how old am i? and how much am i i earn, which led the first child. you brought your second child, your girl arrived at 2:00 in the morning. terry i took paid for a taxi. oh, please, please, maternity capital. i know this woman in 2015 . by the great accident of my daughter's difficult teenager. they met her son. with the first, thank god now. my daughter is fine. and where is your son, but that's not the point. you were probably already a swindler then, yes, that my apartment was

divided into two halves and settled pasha ko me for six months. yes, he knows very well how you and i pulled him out with the police, when i worked in the morning and in the evening at the station. and you know why i say it once, so i swear, this is the last time. well, don't give it, you're all too as they say, that's enough with you. enough, enough, the whole question is impossible. come on out and don't come back come on, come on, come on, please, you can see her from the studio. there is nothing worse than death. give it back. give him the capital. all of us with a child on the street no more you are no more, forget it, i understand that pasha - this is her son, who now has the first son, who is now in prison. she practically settled him with me, knowing that my apartment was, according to my

decency of love for my daughter, after a divorce , divided into two halves, that is, on the 18th anniversary. yes, as if her half pasha was 18 daughters 16.5. and i really love children's first pedagogical education. i couldn't just take him to beat, kill, chase, well, yes, it came from work. i fed him, dressed him and got him a job. it doesn't matter where he is, she didn't even call with him. you this period, in my opinion, according to my memory, da yur had a baby born to you. that's what your wife was doing, what, according to my daughter's story, she constantly played, of course, she puts it on the sofa and plays. yeah and how did your daughter know that she plays all the time, they walked with asparagus, they were friends, they were. there they were hooligans, what do you mean

they were hooligans? well, i will not be like, as if at the moment my daughter is fine. no and then, so that they would drink or use drugs, well, it was, that is, her son is a senior drug addict. yes, and your daughter is with him began to use drugs or she used without him with him. how did you manage to uh, and beg off drugs. well, as it were, i have been staying for the fifth year. well, cleanly sober, everything is fine. god bless. thank you, as it were, to my mother, that she was on time, but she protected me from this family from pasha, as it were, and everything is fine when they went to their home who saved. tell us what this woman is, how else would we get to know each other. he natalya was only pregnant yes, as if damir was born. well, as far as i know, well, yura, they seem to live on the first maker. well, yura always worked, as it were yura provided for the family. well, kasha, she sometimes throws the child right on the bed. he yells there will not feed. she sits and plays. grandma lyubov mitrofanovna is there, she’ll fit there. she is lyuba

get away from him there, don't come near. so, she treated her directly, well, she didn’t treat her very well directly. but pasha told you something about his mother before the age of 18, how pavel died, how he would receive his father. uh, welfare or survivor's pension. so natalya took this money from him, she did not give it to him. here, uh, she says you live in our house. you eat me i take this money, as it were, here, and although pasha , in fact, he is most of it. eh, time was with us. well, my mother, as it were, also provided. well, pasha, as it were, was a hooligan and yurin yura's house in general, as it were, a kind person. he endured it all, and still did not expel him somehow like well, fuck it, well, gold there is a failure. yes , it was. yes, she yura raised his hand, no, he, well, as if i don’t have such information. well , i don't know she's exaggerating. look how harmless it is to her and yura. i just can not. give how yura beats and not i just don’t know, this is a harmless man,

kind, who really wanted to be in life, happy just to build a family to give birth to a child and got that it’s impossible to do this with her. well, with this woman, i believe she does not. excuse the disgusting attitude towards the first child by her son. pasha my mother worked even up to the fact that she also assigned her second child to work at the construction site. i think ruined, only she is the same as the grandmother in the bath. slipped. yura worked asking natasha there helping natasha there, then she even happens but she is on the potty went. there in the toilet, it happens to turn over the pot. she doesn't even clean up after her. there , lyuba, you are like that, or you are like that, or you take my products, or don't wait for my products. not because we feel sorry for you, but because we wanted, uh, for you to meet one more of your relatives here , and we are talking about. about lyudmila petrovna nesterova. you don't know her either. hmm well, at least you know someone, well, let's call lyudmila

petrovna to the studio and explain what kind of relationship you will compose. well, you're not telling the truth about him . yura is a good, wonderful person, right? hello lyudmila petrovna hello, please sit down and tell us, and what are your family ties with natalia , we have family ties, her eldest son, as they say, well, i had sexual intercourse with my granddaughter from the age of 14 from the age of 14 and my right was born ulyana yeah, yes, and when varya was pregnant, she told her don't come near me. i won't help you. i'm warning you. she said i doubt my granddaughters. i told her to doubt until the end of your child's life you will not get everything.

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my husband a grandfather. how do you ask, did you meet? well, the neighbors were just neighbors. and it was voluntarily with your consent. you loved him, didn't you? well, not really yes and no. uh-huh did you want a child or not or not. he wanted he wanted. yes, we didn’t plan to deal with how vary lives with a small child, we were sure that since she was the ward of her grandmother. she is your ward, yes, but the fact that our film crew saw in your house of correspondents is a shock, turned and the girl, we saw the correspondent said that she was dressed out of season completely frozen when they arrived her diapers vomited, used put on twice dried put on what did he say? said

what age is your great granddaughter now? here you keep a child in this dump for a year , you want your child to have a bunch of diseases here. how often do you have organs, guardianship goes here every week.

we are clean. what you will see and hear now, yes, i am outraged even more by tatyana karzova head of the department of guardianship and guardianship of the administration of the pervomaisky district of the city of novosibirsk maybe a child cannot live in such conditions, it is simply incomprehensible. that is why such omissions,

as it were, on your part. i think that we will end with you when they say again, this is confidential information to leave. i have a child in such conditions, i told you, as much as possible, what information i could. we took it further. uh, after the fourth, we 'll be working with this family. and in the future you can officially make a request and we will, uh, uh, comment on the fact that what will be done now i officially appeal to the prosecutor's office of the city of novosibirsk i want you to check the performance of the department of guardianship and guardianship of the pervomaisky district. i will definitely contact the branch of the all-russian movement of mother and russia in novosibirsk and we are taking this monstrous picture of history under control,

and i think that in fact. it’s not something for children to develop, it’s not safe to be in this apartment without such parents, and what i heard struck me when they kicked out ours. natalia from the studio said, the only thing that was correctly said by the hosts was that maternity capital. what kind of child, any mother will not be able to pass by the misfortune of her child. you, here i am, and everything i think is not just my opinion. it's just a money game and that's it. it's understandable, but it's terrible. i don't want to judge. i don't want to judge. well, my mother's heart. this is really just torn apart. i don’t understand

somehow at all, perhaps, and guardianship, of course, well, i think that it was rightly said that guardianship should be just punished really prosecutors should intervene. thanks to channel one for the fact that this program will go on the air, firstly, from them children and children will remain, well, they will either adopt or well, at least the children will live in human conditions, that this is mother cuckoo, she will simply disappear. this same wife and mother cuckoo will disappear and life. i hope, yuri, uh, i understand why we were invited here. they were waiting for help from the experts of channel one, they were waiting for us to help now, that we would kick him out of the house now, and she would allegedly hide behind a child you won't be able to live in this house. we will help you so that the children get rid of you, i don’t feel sorry for anyone, i’m meeting anyone for the first time. eh,

really in this situation that it is not a pity for anyone. pity only you. uh, because of course you made your life difficult. there is a concept in psychology called learned helplessness. so here are the people on purpose. this is what you do when you talk about your husband hitting you and insulting you. yes, by doing so, you take a position, supposedly victims in order to receive, well, the so-called secondary benefit in order to use this situation to your advantage. you don't need a child. you don't need anyone. well, because you were brought up that way, because what we saw communicates. your mother, you are the result of this upbringing, but, unfortunately, your child is simply not what you are treating, yes, because he is already disabled, but you do not make life easier for him in any way.

you use the child so that you trade it in order to do nothing yourself. we're all to blame because we're at all allowed this child. there was another child. she is sitting right here. here i am in general, i did not even understand, how old are you. here, that is, here you are, uh, you are a child, and a child with some obvious life problems, and your relatives allowed you to become a mother too, this is a disaster. here, this is a real problem, and you have a problem. and in general, here, well, there are no options at all here. i don’t know what you need here, not what to deprive you of. there you deprive you of all to share this poor guy who called imagine love dangling life. now you can hardly survive there yourself. there's a problem here, your children. so god will no longer live, because your children. and if guardianships are involved,

the guardianship authorities, they cannot, in which your children will live much better than with you. and you deal with your miserable life. you yourself have chosen it. because i always felt. i do not feel a sense of satiety, and what were you fed as a child? what are you so straight? how do you need yeast? well, what she cooks, then she ate this, that's all, i don't eat it from behind i can on the weekend. even more to eat two more eggs was four sausages, two sandwiches and coffee. well, it's modest even somehow. well, he also had a problem with sausage and cheese, he was so rotten, 70 of all this has been since childhood since he was three years old. and what do you eat potatoes stewed chicken in the oven sang with joy we don’t have cookies at home, we don’t buy, which managed to