[000:00:00;00] uh, our main function is to ensure that money remains money , so that the money that you and i use on a daily basis in a in our lives, and they retain their value, so that money that is stored in the bank, and not available for you , so that banks are stable and, uh, so that at the moment when you, uh, want to pay for something with this money, the payment system also works without, uh, delays. well, let's slowly understand this. i'm just strong. e my career i practically. e. well, i’ve probably been working on the other side for 25 years. barricades of companies, in fact, which the cibs regulate and issues with this are such, and how much are the powers of the central bank of its invariable function, how much they are unchanged, they develop , what has changed over the past, well, let's say, 10 years the last 10 years, of course, but

the demand for e on for safety. yes, and the cyber-resilience of the payment system, and since the population is increasingly using modern non-cash forms of payment, then, of course, uh, and also, as it were, remote access to financial services. this comes to the fore and therefore in this block of questions, of course. uh , the central bank expanded. e. also after every financial crisis. well, the last big financial crisis in the west was in 2008-9, of course, the role of central banks is expanding in terms of regulating the banking sector in order to maintain its stability. and uh, i guess what 's going on in the banking system in the united states right now will push for more changes. but in the middle of cash loans and politics there are tasks solution to price stability. these, probably, were the ancient functions of central america and , frankly, it did not change significantly

, so that, thank god, inflation was low and predictable. we have a separate block of questions on this topic. so you said the word crisis, yes, but how do crises appear and what does the central bank do, of course, the central bank? ah, vested in power, he was given a task. as a matter of fact, respond in a timely manner to changes in economic conditions, including e, respond faster to crisis preemption sometimes work. and, well, in terms of, as it were , such a response to evolutionary changes in the economic cycle, that is, there is an acceleration of economic growth, and there is a transition to slower economic growth. the central bank, tends to work proactively. because his actions. they affect the same inflation with significant lags, and therefore we have to take a period looking at decisions in order to stabilize inflation at the same time on the crisis, of course, this is

a usual reaction, as it happens, uh, sharply requires very quick decisions and of course, last year in this sense a clear demonstration, when the twenty-eighth of february at 9:00 am to the board of directors before the opening of financial markets. e, met and made the necessary decision to raise the key rate to 20%, which ensured the maintenance of financial stability even in the face of an unprecedented shock to our financial system. well, i personally as a participant in the financial system. i believe that these are all the actions of the central bank and ongoing throughout the twenty-second year. eh, it's real, well, such a small feat that is invisible, but in fact, here is the clarity of these actions. she was recognized by all, even there, by opponents of our finances. yes, in western countries, uh, everyone agrees on one thing that the actions of the central bank were. well, as they say, sgud sgs. yes, it doesn't get any better. do you yourself think that the influence of the central bank on the development of the country's economy has increased or

not? i will probably answer the question. and in a positive way, but not in relation to the twenty-second year, but over a longer period of time, that is, with the transition to inflation targeting policy, uh, and uh, after the central bank of our audience, when in 2014 the central bank, uh, said that its task is to maintain, uh, inflation, near inflation is the rise in prices of the general price level in the economy and after the central bank was able to achieve this goal e in 2017, what in 2015, well, no one believed, because 4% inflation in the country was never in post-soviet history e, confidence in financial markets and e and the real sector to the fact that the central bank in fact deed. he can achieve the goals that he sets for himself, and in terms of financial stability, of course,

a huge amount has also been done. this is to strengthen the uh banking sector, which also lasted there from the thirteenth year practically and uh, these actions, again, the accumulated effect during this time, they laid the foundation. they created the necessary foundation that allowed us to operate in the twenty-second year, as we acted and actually enabled the economy. uh, respond effectively to our actions. here is the feedback. she is very important. yes, but i would very much like you to comment on such a well-known myth or persistent opinion that the central bank of the russian federation is subordinate to the global financial backstage, completely obeys them and does exactly what it is the world's financial backstage. he is ordered in reality, how certain decisions are made. and who decides on monetary policy loans. decision on monetary policy. the board of directors of the central bank is adopted in the central bank. ah, there are regular uh, board meetings eight times a year,

dedicated e-rates e-e, the decision that is made are prepared during the whole cycle of the meeting, in which the board of directors. how he makes the decision that, in his opinion , is most consistent with the task of returning inflation to influence that very mythical world financial snack. still , they say that the central bank is not subject to anyone, it acts on its own. well, it comes up right away. this is the myth of the global financial backstage. here you can somehow dispel it, uh komifu. uh, really u relate to this statement or this story, how would follows as a myth that apparently formed in the nineties, then we had hyper inflation in the early nineties. uh, large budget deficits and the imf actively participated in international monetary funds. actively participated in well to

help achieve this, how would macroeconomic stabilization to reduce inflation and so on. and uh, for this, uh, the imf was lending to the russian economy, providing loans to the russian government. and these loans were conditional on certain parameters of actions that were required, and now government. and here is the central bank, but we paid off all our loans when we got rid of the loans in the second year. we repaid all the imf loans and since then e has not been bound by any obligations. that is, let's clearly formulate for our audience that since 2002 there are no even prerequisites to think that the central bank is subordinate to someone for some kind of financial dependence. well direct financial dependent lending in exchange for some solution in terms of economic development. understood the central bank to file a report on state duma, which we

will soon, and if you take the players. here is the central bank of the ministry of finance of the ministry of economic development, as well. well, firstly, very often they all have independent opinions on certain issues, starting from the two-loop system of currencies. yes, it ends with a ruble frame. and these are players of the same level. they have the same weight. here are the central bank of the ministry of finance and the ministry of economic development who listen to more uh , uh, each department acts within its powers and uh, we certainly work in regular interaction with the government of the ministry of finance and the ministry of finance - these are specialized departments. we certainly compare our position when preparing a delivery decision, but it’s the phenomenon that they learn about our decision and our updated forecast at the same time as everyone else at 1:30 a.m. zabotkin. how important

is the trust of citizens for the central bank and, in general, is it possible to achieve such a policy and openness of the information of the central bank? a few words about this, so that citizens really trust that the central bank is doing everything right. there is a first goal the trust of citizens is very important and there is certainly such a goal. it is difficult to achieve, especially in a country where inflation has been either high, or very high, or hyperinflation for a long period of time, and in this sense deserve the trust of analysts. uh, professional participants in the banking market. uh, it's much easier, if we look at, uh, analysts' polls, it's clear that for many years, as if analysts believe that inflation will be 4% with citizens, of course, this is hmm communication

, it is complicated by the fact that macroeconomics is in in general, a complex subject area, which, uh, most people do not encounter in everyday life, so for us, probably , in terms of earning the trust of society, the surest way is to achieve what we promise, what kind of criterion. so you think that the trust of the society of citizens of the central bank has increased or decreased? that is how how how you measure different instrumentation is most like that. uh, the publicly visible one is our regular polls of inflation expectations, when on a monthly basis the foundation of public opinion conducts polls. er, 2,000 citizens every month about their information expectations for the future and we publish this one. this is an important part of the regions, and about. well, this is a representative sample throughout the russian federation, yes. even now, these inflationary expectations are falling much faster than they did in 1919-1717.

this allowed us to lower the rate faster last year, but still they are somewhat higher than they were in 17-18-19, when inflation was closer to 4%. in many countries developed there is a huge number of regulators. well, for example, the same thing america has them there. uh, there's even a dozen more. yes, each industry regulates separately, this or that department is often commercial in england. and we have a mega-regulator. it is even officially called the mega-regulator, er, the central bank of the russian federation, and in connection with this question. what is the role of the chairman of the central bank personally in the very formation of trust and in the decision? reveal a little secret to us. yes, how is it going, uh, the meeting of those same directors. how much elvirian episode. they listen to how important her opinion is, that is, the role of the chairman of the central bank as a regulator , see let's break the question into two parts, the role of the chairman of the central bank as the first

person of a large organization, it is very multifaceted, like the role of any first person of a very large organization. yes, but if you are talking specifically about the decision on monetary policy, then i would put it this way, the main role in the decision-making process is to make sure that all the opinions of the participants discussions that take part in the preparation of the delivery decision. they were heard, the forks were marked, where there is a discrepancy in the assessment of the current situation or in the assumptions about what awaits us in the future and, accordingly , the risks were adequately assessed in relation to what emerges as some kind of criminal opinion about base scenario. that is, he formulated it. so what it is is that after the results of a comprehensive discussion

, a weighted consensus is formed, the monetary politics, in fact, let's move on to it. and what is it in general and why is it needed ? this is actually necessary for business and citizens. this is necessary to maintain the purchasing power of his savings, to maintain the purchasing power of his income, and for the business to have predictable dynamics. the price allows you to better predict. e your profitability your e, future, uh, financial situation. and this in turn. actually reduces investment risks. other things being equal, e, contributes to sustainable economic growth. practically answered my following questions. but i'm still his ass. direct for business, what is more important low inflation or predictable? as u shows, the experience u

of many decades from many countries is predictable, there is only low inflation. good answer. uh then, well then , next question. is there such a thing as normal or low inflation? understanding in numbers is how much? well, there is no concept of normal inflation. here is a good one, and the answer of one of the uh, central bankers green that he gave at the meeting, yes of the system, yes for our audience, yes, which he gave at one of the delivery meetings. uh, in the early 2000s, when asked. what is price stability? well , as a matter of fact, what is yes, here, and after thinking he answered. this is such a rate of inflation such a rate is simply cyan at which, uh, it is not noticeable to an ordinary person. accordingly, for each this level is probably different, but uh this is definitely a value that is below 5% in our

case, 4% is the inflation target. well, that is , the market manages to correlate the incomes of citizens in such a way that, along with the rise in prices, it is imperceptible. well, or almost imperceptibly , it is clear that it is impossible to do this for each product from the basket. yes, but in general for the consumption basket. yes, uh, it was subtly good that inflation didn't affect the decisions you make, yes, so that you don't think about whether you should save or not, because you are afraid that inflation will eat your savings. let's talk about numbers about our country. i think this is going to be a nice question, because the inflation figures for february have just come out, 23 will be easier than 202. it's hard to give a short answer at the moment because there are two ways to measure inflation. the number that is published most often. this is annual inflation. that is, it is the accumulated increase in prices. some period. yes this year to the end of mars last year. this value will be below 4%. and in april, most likely, even more

decline, does that mean that inflation is already back on our not-quite-4% target. yes, it coincides with the goal on the twenty-fourth. it is necessary to distinguish between the goal, what the central bank is striving for, how to return or keep inflation at this level, and the forecast, for example, the inflation forecast for this year, it is slightly higher than 5-7, but next year and beyond. we expect inflation to be 4% and the target is close to 4%. let's talk a little about the issue that is of concern. i think that each how the ruble exchange rate is formed. and in general, why the exchange rate of the ruble is formed precisely against the dollar someday we will cease to consider the exchange rate of our ruble against the dollar. and how is the process of de-dalarization of the economy going on now, what part does the central bank take in this , if it accepts, of course, a lot of questions, it has slightly different topics, yes, if we talk about the formation of the exchange rate, then we are used to measuring

the exchange rate, not to form, but to measure the exchange rate of the ruble and its relationship with the us dollar is exactly the same as for most other currencies, also basic. e ratio measured by citizens of other countries in relation to the dollar, but not everywhere, for example, in central europe, the main ratio is e, the currency of local currencies it is from. well, let's say the citizens are not looking at the ratio with the dollar. she is the euro ratio. yes, and accordingly, why e many countries really this is the ratio of the national currency to the dollar - this is the focus of attention. uh, the public is in touch with the fact that dollars have been the main currency of economic relations for many years, including for us, uh, foreign trade settlements and plus the dollar for almost forty years it was the currency. which was low inflation.

it was a good reliable measure of value and therefore it was convenient to measure the value of other currencies in relation to what is an unchanging stable constant, yes uh comparative, but uh taking into account the fact that inflation in the united states and in fact both in the euro area and in uk in the last 2 years. she transcended whatever was observed. uh, in the previous few let's say it and eight and nine and ten percent is even higher, and in these conditions it is unconditional to compare, as it were, the value of their national currency. against what becomes more fluid and unstable becomes actually more debatable, but uh, to sum it up from the point of view of a russian citizen really. well, not the ratio of the ruble to the dollar, the non-exchange rate of the ruble to the dollar or some other currency, but the purchasing power of the ruble.

that is, the rate at which you can exchange your rubles for a basket of those goods and services that you use the central bank in this. e takes some part, directly or everything is going on how is it going and economic relations are developing in such a way that, well, now many countries are transitioning. uh, in your relationships with each other without being tied to the us dollar, you see this trend. uh , what is really russia with its trading partners to a greater extent there, uh, located in the hemisphere. yes, with china and indonesia. here too with india there. well, or there with latin america that is , there is a trend. well, i'm not even a trend, it's such a rapid shift that has occurred over last year and continues and this is due, well , to the fact that those sanctions that were introduced passed in the first quarter. over the years, they have greatly complicated the calculations in dollars and euros for our uh, companies. uh, involved in

foreign trade and, accordingly, they seem to use other means of payment, which are more convenient and, accordingly, are more reliable money for these companies. well, if you look at the structure of citizens' savings, citizens also significantly reduced their foreign currency deposits and increased the share of rubles in their savings. now i will ask such a tricky question. it is simple from the audience. why can't you just take here, set the dollar rate like this in the calculations, let's say with our partners there, with the same china and india , the level of the exchange rate is determined by the balance of interests. e of all uh, well, different uh, like in companies and a-a participants in the relationship, yes, that is, uh, an exporter. eh, a weaker exchange rate is really more profitable, other things being equal , a stronger exchange rate is beneficial to importers and citizens, because it reduces the prices of imported goods and services and makes them more affordable.

eh, and there those companies that are involved in investment processes benefit from it too. uh, well, rather a stronger course, since it will allow them, as it were, cheaper than the mention of fingers, because the external conditions are constantly changing, a flexible course. it allows the economy to more. tra react to the changes that take place there in the prices of our export goods, there oil, metals, and, in the same way, rates react to changes in imports. last year, imports became much more difficult due to sanctions restrictions, which we tinker in the countries of the lake, which we buy. here, uh, the supply of imports has become more complicated in order to ensure them , large transportation costs were required for calculations, which here is a stronger rate that was last year. as a matter of fact, he allowed, as it were,

to compensate or soften. ah, the consequences of these changes for the period when they were most acute. uh, we see the consequences now, what is being countered. well, the rate also affects the rate of the central bank, but in fact we all understand that this is impossible. is it possible to say that in fact, no matter what happens in our relationship, huh? partners, yes, to whom were both america and the european union and the gdp of the countries with which we continue market relations, the same china and india indonesia , it is higher than the gdp of the countries with which we have so significantly reduced our relations, and they remain market and the russian economy the federation still remains a market one, where it is completely unacceptable. here are these decreed settings for gdp rates - this is the gross domestic product, which we continue actively interact and expand our e, cooperation of the russian federation

remains an open economy. uh, market based and in that sense flexible exchange rates are what provide the most. uh, the operational adjustment of the economy to the new ones. well, respectively, simply the marketability of this economy. now i'll set it as a price yes, here, as it were, the regulation of the exchange rate. this is the same as price fixing there, if there is price fixing, then there will most likely be differentiation, when, uh, the old one is still there soviet times, when a person sells old, old socks at the market at an insane price that exceeds new ones, so the person asks. well, why are you selling something like that, he says? well, you don't have to pass. he returns to the cis, he stands again. he says how much is more expensive now. that's what happened? why does he say so? yes, we really need money. unfortunately, this doesn't work. i ask the most popular question. why can't you just take and print so many rubles. how much is needed and purposefully invested in those projects

who need before funding, there is infrastructure. there are factories, because, uh, this is the intended use of funds. this is only the first step of what happens next with money in more detail, then we must understand that at the moment when the road is being built, the money allocated for its construction is significantly part of it. in fact , the other part goes to suppliers to pay the salaries of those people who work on this construction. there concrete asphalt, gravel and so on. once that money is there distributed. they start to freely circulate further in the economy, and they quickly shift up the demand for cement for concrete for crushed stone for asphalt and so on, and those days that uh workers received in the form

of wages. they are accordingly. uh. how would, don't get me wrong, how wonderful is the creation of jobs and uh, those people who previously had no job opportunities get there well missed meaningful work that is good for society, but uh in a situation where there is not much in the economy free hands. and how i want note that we have been declining for the past year, and now it is at a historical minimum number of reasons, uh, but nonetheless. yes , this is a fact, and under these conditions , competition for those people who will build roads, plants, bridges is getting tougher, and wages are already rising without any targeted funding. and when the people they think they are richer they got more money, but when the store comes to the store the amount of goods that they can buy with that money. so instantly did not increase and

accordingly, these are broadcasts, so a very important balance is important here. this is about the fact that it is not necessary to invest in infrastructure, but these investments must be correlated with financial ones. with the possibilities of the economy, in fact, the answer lies in the fact that it is impossible to print money and finance it to invest it in a targeted way in such a way that it does not affect inflation in any way . inflation will somehow correspond to this reprint. second year indeed, the budget had such a significant deficit. uh, well, uh, last year, about 2% of gdp, uh, in the twentieth year, even more, the central bank monitors the budget deficit. and of course, fiscal policy is an important part of, uh, those prerequisites on the basis of which we build our macroeconomic forecast, there are budgets that are considered dangerous for the economy. so let's say. it's, uh, rather

the key here is, uh, the overall sustainability of fiscal policy. here is one parameter of the deficit for a single year. yeah, that's not quite enough for what would be a verdict or a diagnosis yes, well, i'm still on the figure, i always introduce you to the numbers. let's, we'll say next, that the three-year budget that was introduced by the government in october and that was uh, adopted by parliament, involves a gradual reduction of the budget deficit to about 1% of gdp in the twenty-fifth year in the twenty-three. it 's about two percent this year, which is also an acceptable budget deficit and risks, so it's important that it be preserved, so that yes, actually, we are for ours. uh, with you fellow citizens talking about the fact that the central bank, including the central bank, monitors the parameters that governments put forward in draft budget laws, and

the trend that is laid down. or rather, which is predicted, it is completely satisfied, that is, this is a decrease in the budget deficit from 2%, yes, i understand correctly to 1. in the center of the twenty-fifth year and maintaining approximately at this level in the future, you know, in the twenty-second year at the beginning , actually in the spring , especially most experts predicted the fall of the economy of the russian federation in the order of 8-10%. what happened, in fact, how the economy has changed, and in the twenty-second year and what do you expect from the year 23 according to the same figures. uh, rising fall is our forecast which was published in february on this year's quarterly update. yes, for this year, it assumes gdp dynamics in the range from minus one to plus one percent compared to last year, but i will say right away that in the first quarter, the operational data that we have indicate that, in general

, the situation is developing , well, rather there in the more optimistic part of this range due to why are there such wonderful questions here. i think that this is probably well played by two factors. the first is that, after all, there were probably more modest expectations in terms of, so to speak, timeliness and e proportionality of the response measures that were taken by the authorities in march april may last year. the response to the island's phase of the crisis is certainly, as it were, uh. for example what kind of stabilization of the financial system. uh, maintaining the availability of credit is the most critical important sectors of the economy in the period until the rate was. yes it was how long the bet 20 lasted, how quickly it came to a bet that

fits the spirit. e, the 20 e bet lasted a little over a month and beyond. it was declining all those famous 3% and when we came to 7% we came to 7.5 in september and here i want to emphasize that, of course, uh, everyone uh, had experience in their memory, uh, 14-15 years old when the rate was raised to 17:00, they are up to 20 and only towards the end of the seventeenth year. it dropped to 7.5% for 3 years, and now for 6 months a lot of entrepreneurs come, we talk about different things on different topics. and all such a consensus forecast. here are the wishes. let's bet five. yes, there is a fairy tale about borrowing funds. well, it is clear that there must be a balance between the interests of certain, uh, sectors of the economy. and of course great. it's for businesses that prefix fives will be significantly cheaper than loans because prefix fives are likely to have much higher inflation and inflationary

expectations of loan balances do not depend directly on the key rate. they differ. the rate affects them, of course, but it does not depend on me directly and the longer the term, the more degree. rates depend on future inflation on expectations of future inflation than on our key has become. let's come up with one more number. uh, how much did the economy ask for in the twenty-second year, and according to the latest estimate, it was 2.1% and, of course, this is much more moderate. he radically more or less results from what remains. yes , this is an order of magnitude, that is, all expectations are 20 - this is exactly an order of 10 times less. here and uh, here here we are 0.1 - this is there in a timely manner and uh proportionate. uh, challenging the actions of the authorities, but the second factor, which is rather, well, i would say even more important. yes, this is what e private business, as it were, has demonstrated a much greater degree of flexibility from the ability to quickly adapt

to conditions. here, uh, than uh, what was built into those expectations there for a fall of 8-10%, which were in the second quarter of the central banks. the whole world is tightening credit policy, that is, in this way money is withdrawn from the central bank’s system for itself, and embedding in this uh, a trend to tighten road accidents or still russia will go its own way and at the present time the economy is developing in such a way that it is more worth looking in the opposite direction, if not softening, then at least unchanged for some time. yes our economy and financial system under the sanctions is less integrated into the global financial markets. and in this sense, such a rapid transfer of the tightening of global monetary credit policy or the broader concept of monetary credit conditions. that is, there is how much money, as it were, exists in the world

economy. as far as they are available, but on ours, financial markets on the ofz yield on the exchange rate is the federal law public debt, yes, uh, this transfer is uh, well, now it is much more restrained than it was before february last year, but uh influence of the world economy to the russian one, depending on our foreign trade operation , it remains, and therefore, if, as a result of the tightening of the policy of other central banks, we get a significant slowdown in the world economy, then this, quite possibly , will act as an additional inflation factor. that's because of our terms of foreign trade. uh, the last question will get worse alexey, i always ask it at the end of each podcast. what should be done? well , in this case, probably, cb so that all

russians become the richest and happiest. i think that the less inflation eats away the savings of citizens, the more chances citizens will have. it will become richer, but the central bank is on guard to ensure that money remains money. and at least what we earn. we were able to quite adequately. uh get the goods and services, but according to their work. it certainly is. so alexey i am very glad that we discussed such a complex topic with you. what does the central bank do? how does it do it and why does it do it? thank you. huge. thank you. hello, my name is dmitry bag. i am the host of a literary podcast

called let them not talk, let them read, and i and my wonderful people talk about this sweet wonderful process, because reading e in many ways allows us to live another life reading books. we watch landscapes, we see pictures of the past. we penetrate the secrets of strong characters. we meet wonderful people. in a word, read. it's fashionable cool wonderful. it is absolutely not an outdated way of life. this is life itself, so today we will talk wonderful, and our guest is a famous prose writer. sergei shurgunov sergei hello. i am glad to welcome dmitry and we will talk today about the literary biography of sergei shargunov, which is very diverse, er, attractively , we will talk about that. how sergey made his debut about at the very beginning of the 2000s, and we

will talk about his prose books , biographical books. and finally, in the second part of our program, we will talk about sergei shergunov's current studies on journals about writers' organizations. but, a in the middle between the two parts. we, as always, will have a surprise at this time. i remind myself and a personal poem or showing some old book from my own library. let's see what will happen this time and i'm happy to start this conversation sergey , please tell us how it happened that you entered literature so early. well, not everyone will make their debut, if i remember correctly at 18 or at 19, how did it happen this is a family tradition. this is some kind of special time that it turned out that very early began to write composed. fairy tales rewrote the books of life, because i was born in the family

of a priest. in general, the passion for literature seized literally in the very early years, he published domashniy magazine to kill you, at the very beginning they rewrote the lives. you said, yes, and these are such half-hearted lives, uh, in such uh, homespun covers, uh the lives of the new martyrs of those who were forcibly put to death in the 20th century yes, the revolution of the civil war and later in the thirties. so she captured literature and began to publish her own magazine at the age of 10. in general, we are for the family, but in general it was distributed and even agreed with a neighbor who reprinted something. although mostly. i printed it myself. yes, yes, of course, and then this server was copied and in general it went what is called to the people, for example, mine is like that. you are the first debut in the official press for future biographers. this is

the ogonyok magazine where mine was published there. the note. first there was a text about me, and then some of my text, and just all this revolved around this magazine. this note was of a literary nature of a critical nature or it was an essay. i don't remember. it was dedicated to the fact that there is such a schoolboy who already publishes a magazine called freedom , listen how cool it is. this is a literary and public building. these are legendary years. these are the years when vitaly kortvich led the spark. yes, then he was resurrected in a spark, gumilyov in the eighty- sixth year. this is a little later, apparently, yes in early nineties, nineties, nineties, and you are 80. that is, you are 10 years old, of course, i don’t even know, pushkin 14 made his debut, we won’t compare, and then, of course, a lot was written. e, already in the future as a student at moscow university, took his stories to the journal novy mir, a journalist, a journalist faculty. yes, aga journalism, and at the age of 19 he published it there. i mean, you're like, uh,

a professional writer. uh, terrible combination of words. no, well, everyone writes, yes, it is known e clearly at 10-12 years old. e at 15:00, but not everyone enters the new world of 19 years. yes, for it was an event and happiness for me, i remember, we somehow hung out with classmates and uh, there was some kind of topic with getting into some kind of night club and i climbed over the fence and one of them screamed shown me. there climbs the author of the new world. and although the rest understood that this publication was only to come, but it inspired me and it seems to me that i myself spread this energy of the legend. that is, it was the legend of shargunov? well, cool, yes cool to publish, it was inspiring and down with energy, then write big things, then apply for a debut award. i received it. well in general, well, somehow i can't imagine myself without

writing, but at the same time i like this fever of debutantism. uh-huh always want to feel at the beginning of something such a thing something bearer, despite the fact that the family has enough mom and dad. um, of course, literary history, because before becoming a priest of the pope he was a poet and therefore a translator in the family there were always a lot of friends of writers. hmm. there, too, anastasia ivanov tsvetaeva, you can say that i was brought up by my mother, the daughter of soviet writers , and at the same time among your relatives, gerasimov serebryanovich, yes, you know, there, uh, despite the fact that there are different uh, eminent ancestors. it is very important for me to feel my independence . to remain myself, and on the one hand,

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