well, maybe fantastic song come on with two eyes from me and away from friends cool down footprints and steps. i'm waiting for those who don't come.

everything is on the way through the clouds, i look at the houses, as if waiting. during the day , they are always waiting for something, it will come without end.

indent of the frame repeat turnover turnover i must say, dear friends, that you just see, this is how the work with yesenin is built by the apple 2:00 group, that we don’t hear these sinister alcoholic ones, but here are the taverns, who for some reason always come to everyone head when they take e. here, when they try to make a song from sergeevich , dear friends, we can’t do without a night. see. here we have tonight. and here is the night, from the point of view of sergei alexandrovich yesenin. do not return this cool night to me, do not see my girlfriend

sing with her beauty. wait , god has come eternal rains are pouring , the weather has come on hay, endless places of rain and

sky, and you will hear your heart. this seine love will not wake up the population. well, i told you, i didn't know what we were going to say. it's just the energy live performance, for which anthropology is on channel one. and you could step aside a little from our main theme

of the yesenin league in the state of a village holiday, which actually fills the village river. he loved to drive around the garden, why is there no one? yes, you don’t love it, and why do you fight in the garden of melons about whom to give them tattoos in your mouth, but you don’t like fashion schmuck. why aren't you a driver in the garden? about whom they played and 100 rubles. gave away? why don't i, but you don't love. why don’t you hurt posad, but it

lay down. don't be afraid in the garden.

dear friends of the anthropology project, today we enjoyed yesenin's lyrics performed by the apple two point zero group, and now we just have to thank this brilliant team and wish this project, which is called talyanochka. happy journey through our souls, dear friends. thanks a lot. hello this is a psychic podcast and we're here to take the heaps of trouble off

your shoulders. well, let's try to do it anyway. my name is natalya loseva i am a journalist, and my co-host is a clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological sciences mikhail khors hello, our today's heroine elena stupnikova came with very, very much. unfortunately, typical problems. how to explain to children that they are not to blame for the fact that their parents broke up? hello lena , hello. well, the whole story. e, so to speak, the sad one began 5 years ago, e, my ex-husband and i separated. well, so to speak, we didn’t agree on the characters and, uh, now the problem. mine is that i have an 8-year-old daughter, and my youngest child has a son. i'm 6 years old and uh ah such age, when they already understand. what's going on and they started asking where is dad? i want dad not to live with you. yes

, they know why dad is with us. yes, dad doesn’t have another marriage, and his happiness and health, but it turns out. so daughter. she remembers him, that is, she was 3 years old when we broke up and hmm, my daughter is very worried about this topic and let's say such situations, when february 23rd. yes, there are some events being held at the school to draw. postcards well, dads, yes, uh, and now my daughter came with such a straight hysteria. she says, and who should i draw? where is my dad? why doesn't he come? why? and he. they do not communicate now very rarely and rarely via video. it's like once a month, maybe twice a month. well, maybe in the same city. well, now i don't know exactly where he lives. and you do not know, he lives. no, we're not in the same city. when you got divorced,

they talked for a while. yes , well, according to the classics, in general, it was somehow more or less regular and then often began to go to no, well, yes, yes, as usual with all happens, and the children live here, in what paradigm in what version? why does dad live separately from them? how do you explain, well , she explained that we met, fell in love with each other, then we didn’t have a relationship. and we better somehow build our lives. yes, on their own, so as not to spoil some moments of life. well, that is, you didn’t offer them some kind of such a replacement model , what, look, dad doesn’t live with us, but he, that is, you gave them some kind of sphere of his presence. well, maybe not physical, but some kind of virtual remote work, that is, at first it was like that. here i went on

a business trip. he works. he's there to make money for us. yes in order for you and me yes to live well. yes, yes, no, there are no questions, that is. well, what do they say, when on february 23 they drew sitting and postcards, and dad, you could tell your daughter . yes , the fact is that it was at school, and i did not know that when they would draw what moment there? that there it was without me without mine. they just didn’t read this situation, what could happen. so that everyone had to make some gifts. they why they calculated, because probably there is no such thing at home when we draw something for the departure dad. because if it were, then the child would have problems, but in this model there were no problems. well, well do dad not a court postcard. and i'll take a picture and send a postcard. yes, we did just that. we then

took pictures. yes this. well, that's probably my problem yes, that i i don’t quite understand, but sometimes, if the daughter doesn’t talk about dad. i also try not to speak. why? well, maybe it's my inside. yes, it's hard for me. it’s hard for me to talk about it. and if she doesn’t talk, then i somehow don’t initiate this topic myself. let's take a step back. when did you visit us? this is how you would put it. or maybe you have formulated the problem? honestly, i can't even offer two options. yes, the first option, how to explain to children and the second option, how can i stop suffering myself? a i have a third option , how can i make my father's presence in one form or another? somehow it happened, because the father exists physically, the father exists legally and the father

exists. well, let's say so morally and ethically, because well, although, because he bears material obligations. and maybe a third option. by the way, this is not a mutually exclusive option, yes, the third option, how can i build a new model of life in which there is a dad. well, in fact, i came here to figure it out, maybe even listen, yes, experts, in order to understand how i'm better. what better choice should i make? well, in principle, as mikhail put it. yes , i had it in my head. how do you explain to kids what's going on? yes, why because, of course, at this age? they still take it upon themselves that it’s like, more precisely, a daughter , but uh, my son was 9 months old when we parted , he practically doesn’t remember him, but my daughter was 3 years old. that is, she remembers him well, and had a very good relationship with her dad. that is , he is with her, he is right there love. -love was like that with my daughter and she is very, very worries that e dad is not around and but

there was some other kind of love, he somehow nursed her there to go have fun while she was some kind of baby. they didn't walk. yes, she wore it on her shoulders. this is the whole story here. that is, they danced together there, he turned on the music. she moved around somehow. it all broke off at the moment when he left you, or he already left, but their relationship. i just don’t understand how you can turn off lyubov yes, but me too, to be honest, it’s difficult, how it happened, their relationship collapsed well, gradually. well then yes, he began to come less, then he, uh hmm, so to speak, began to travel on a business trip to other cities. yes, that's all. the communication of such a living person has become less. and tell us about such a moment when you realized that your daughter is going through. well, maybe a year ago, that is, it has always been, but now it began to be expressed very brightly directly. and this episode too. well, that is, she began to cry and talk. and now i want to

just touch my dad, just touch it, not by video link, but i always have a watch when i speak. what to say? tell elena what this, as it was after some conversation with dad? why did she start talking like that? or maybe she saw how some other girlfriend was with her dad, well, odnoklassniki has a dad. yes, there is even e, well, many. it’s just that it doesn’t tremble for everyone, probably, well, tell not everyone, tell them again. not for everyone, not for everyone, she came. and why did she begin to cry, tell me, is she friends with the neighbor's boy. he is very good. they began to communicate in the summer, and their parents are also divorced, but there dad is very, well, tight involved upbringing. and well, questions began to arise, and my dad, why doesn’t he come to us. where is my dad? well, that is, such

moments here, what happened why did she cry? here, well, that's why i cried, that dad wants to touch him simply, so that's not why. she cried birthday. i just want to understand this moment, which has become so combinational that it was. well, it's hard for me to understand. i can't do it myself. she just came one day and cried that she wanted to touch her dad, that is, no. before that , she was also worried. there was right there strong emotion or on you something about yourself. here comes your little girl daughter is crying. what do you feel? i also cry with her about what you cry. well, shame on her. and for myself well, it’s a shame for myself, but somehow, if, yes, she’s somehow aside, yes, then i myself, probably, with myself in a feminine way, yes, as if i’ve more or less coped with my female resentment , but with resentment, as the mother of her daughter, i can’t. are you already bored yourself? that's what you want

no more. i think your resentment helps this situation, i do not interfere. what comes to you head? here is an image right now, immediately answer with the word catastrophe explosion more panic tornado yes, something is flying off roofs cars are flying somewhere this is all a disaster. yes, but what happened in your family. it looks like what you just imagined no, no, that's when there will be an explosion, when there will be corpses, when the roofs will fly up. here it will be a disaster, and you have a divorce. i'm not saying it's bullshit. i'm not discounting your experience for something else, but calling it a disaster for the whole country. don't you understand, that's how how

if you name a yacht, it will sail like that, if we have such cases, which now, according to statistics, 80%, 80 are called disasters, that we will then feel eighty percent. they will feel panic in us . there is no need to catastrophize this case when we evaluate an event or in our life it is important to compare this event with something else. yes, some boy, dad comes more often, at least that's how you see that we don't really know there. well, yes, he comes more often than yes, dad communicates more often than with yours, but compare on the other side. don't you know about cases when dads do not participate in life at all, so the conclusion is the first. compare yes,

compare. yes, it would be better like this, but i know that it's like this, and i'm here in the middle and my condition. my life is not a disaster, no matter what we are told, even by very reputable tv presenters. well, i'll tell you to compare it well with a cold head, but when the daughter is already in hysterics emotions are overflowing and right, of course, that's why i asked, what do you feel, therefore, when and natalya spoke very correctly about the task with which you came. yes? i offered to somehow calm my daughter or myself. so, when you fly in an airplane, you flew in an airplane a couple of times, yes, remember some instructions, if you understood the masks, yes, yes, no. oh, first everything for yourself, so now our task is to show you how you feel in this situation.

you will be calmer, you will feel calmer, your daughter will understand that she is a support, and then she will be calmer. i heard it’s simple, and you will be calmer when you stop absolutely disastrous. so, yes, evaluate your life and what happened in it, what's wrong, let's, no, everything, no, i like everything. there is some objection to your eyes. let's talk. everything is right, she says, she even completely agrees, but the tears of a child are directly knocked out of balance , they are knocked out right at the moment, and the child. maybe in this situation you are being manipulated, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, in fact, the word manipulation is not a tragedy. we all manipulate each other to some degree. even natalia and i sometimes manipulate each other, and there is nothing catastrophic in this either, but what is important to understand is that you get

into the head into the soul of your daughter. you cannot evaluate only her external state, therefore, compare the two phrases, the point is crying and the daughter is very worried. which of them describes the actual e life, and which one of them your daughter is very worried about, where is the fact. where is the guess? well, the fact is crying , the fact is crying, yes, well, crying in different ways can also be done in different ways, but for now you do not implant yourself with a chip and your daughter chip and when she will cry. you will know for sure that she has electromagnetic interactions there , the biochemistry of the brain corresponds to her experiences. until this happens to us, your opinion that she is experiencing this assumption. well, so futurism from mikhail well, you can cry, don't worry, if you want, i

'll cry. here natalya is sure that natalya is an excellent specialist in her field. that's how psychologists always treat it. yes , actors can do it. no look. which story you now pay experiences. i'm without feeling gentlemen. this is, if you sit down, this is how you start to swing like this and this is how you talk about things that are connected, tears will go on their own. this wait is the world, the imaginary experiences of our psychologists. let's get back to your specific situation, but it may be that the child's bad mood at school did not quarrel with someone. yes, uh hormonal how old is eight eight? well, soon there are some hormones. you see, we also believe that all this is a consequence, that it

does not sleep at night and suffers. i will say more than that, look, the less, she will now communicate with dad. and you, accordingly , will live with her all her problems and tasks of failure of adolescence, the more you will be like this, that's a strict policeman. yes, and dad is so ephemeral. here is a pink pony somewhere out there galloping around the world. yes, just a prince on all magical horses immediately intercessor. kind heart, we are an indulgent, you understand, and the fact that in five years or earlier, she still doesn’t have such thoughts like this watershed, yes, here, she mom is not going anywhere. mom is always here yes, it is clear that i love my mother, i value my mother, but my mother is also a given. here are the circumstances with which well, how is the weather, how is the leg? how about hands? yes, uh, like hair that does not cry until it is lost, and dad he will more and more

acquire completely inexpressible beautiful features, you understand and compare the real you. and an ephemeral dad almost like an imaginary friend. clearly, it will not be on your side. michael is correct. i predict or again i catastrophize the forecasts, it turns out correct only when we test them, but we test them with real life. until she grows up. you won’t know what kind of situation i don’t experience at all, to be honest, there is a forecast, maybe it will somehow be realized to some extent, maybe not, until you live, you won’t know for the next 10 years. it's a walter kron kite from our studio i just got an urgent message from the united press .

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why kill a useful person? this is a podcast of the psyche and our today's heroine elena does not know how to replace her father when he is gone. i would like mikhail to talk more on one topic, because we have a young beautiful woman in front of us. i think that the question of your

future personal life somehow somehow exists in your head in your heart, right? it would be very embarrassing. if it were not at all, now there is some kind of relationship of some kind here's another potentially significant man for your children is on the horizon you have and why for children why is the wording potentially significant for children at all potentially significant for you or is it? no, wait, i don't oppose at all. i just assume that if elena has men with whom she will be connected , they will have a serious relationship, and some plans are possible, of course elena mikhail can open for you now, the whole universe, and so it is, but in general -something for a woman mother of children of small minors here this factor, how her potential election will relate to her children, how their relationship will develop. will he offend them,

will the children, by the way, offend the chosen one offend. well, what, have you finished, will it really end? and then we don’t know e divorces, which, thanks to teenage children , also happen like this for for for women. and i know so for a woman this is the most important fact or not, or am i mistaken , tell me, thank you, what does the most important factor mean ? i can’t understand what is important that yes, men and women like each other. wait will live, if he wait, you and i remember our history. yes, friends. now, if you look at our episodes, the previous psychics podcast is weak, then you will see one of the historians there. now it was beautiful, and the mother of five children, when her older children. just forced to run. that's what he was wearing on the couch, literally her husband and

, by the way, the father of the youngest child, you understand , and they didn’t understand that story . i beg you wanted ran away. that's why he's not here for children. yes, children can resist. yes, kids can be worried. yes, children can cry there ah-pa-pa, where is my dad, but very bad. so they are talking about you so they can only ask the cape themselves adults, or we will, as soon as our children cry, immediately aim to get up and run. calm down. well, listen, let's, after all, we become more mature ourselves, yes, and we begin to remind ourselves. that, in fact, our emotions that we experience, the pain that brings us is not a consequence of circumstances, which we have encountered is a consequence of our reading of these circumstances. here is a vivid

example you said, he rarely sees his daughter. i asked, more precisely, well, once or twice a month a question. why? is it rare? i think prove to me that this is rare. well, i would like to. just prove to me that it was the dad who looked right away that he lived in a traditional, so to speak, family in his own way, that is, he would go to work in the morning and return in the evening to see the children, seven times in general - this does not mean that we were now, right? i'm talking about i about that once again return to thought. wait that your emotions are not a consequence of the number of meetings that take place. the consequence of what you think is rarely enough. and it shouldn't be like that, and it's often and quite a lot less than what you want for your daughter, but less than you want and little

is not the same thing. well actually. and why should there be everything in this life, as we want natalia in your life , everything as you want, and in my life this is not useful when we get something immediately what we want is not very useful. let's still return to the situation when elena has another man, of course, the situation for 5 years was unwilling to deceive. well, no, well, deceive. see. why not? no? what are you? i never lie at all. actually registered in this e, where people sit twist, they go there do not fit 3 days. i stayed there, i became, just because of this, the questionnaire is incorrectly configured. i'm a theorist, so i'm changing how find about expert master. yes, i am a practitioner for

working with people who are on a dating site. so here's the main problem. why don't people get there? yes, they don’t find someone . this is because they believe that they need to immediately open it and find it. but these dating sites there, you just need to treat everything like gold comes to look for gold or scoops it up somewhere on the river, which means the sand starts like this. ah, sift sow sow sow sow sow sow sow sow. oh, we need juice. this is impossible. it's just, well, like sand and at the end is, it means a grain of shiny gold. he takes her. and this is the second mistake. and they say gold. no, until you take a chemical little thing there , you won’t understand that it’s just gold , don’t say that it’s gold in ours there are a lot of minerals. recently i was at an exhibition of generals called gold for fools, kharkovite. you see, this is iron, but it looks like gold. here, therefore, means,

here it is, and so it is gold for fools. this is gold for fools. it's gold for fools hop gold. understood, well, that is, someone comes across immediately leads the first time. someone is overthinking. maybe well, you just have to set yourself up for the fact that i'm sorting through and sifting and each of this sand will be there and gigolos and perverts. and these are all yes, here you are now yourself that you have now catastrophized for her no? i didn't say it was a word. hello to this maniac, let's go. why come? that they are a maniac in general you can even meet. well , it's simple, if we treat such people as, well, the norm of life, sometimes they stick. sometimes to beautiful women, the gigolos of perverts are renewed it used to happen, well, now it’s beautiful to have no time to communicate with maniacs. i have other children. well,

first of all, i have children. i bring them up with many children and then, secondly, i work, study, continue to develop in my profession. here. and this all takes my total all my time. well, i communicate with my friends there as friends. yes, once again you have a desire to meet someone, meet someone , but do not spend all your time looking. here is this gold. i have absolutely no motivation and uh, it's not the main task for me now, either there is no motivation, or there is no strength and no strength, yes, there is no strength, and where the strength goes, the strength goes. uh, he walks around in anxiety in resentment for his daughter. well, there , too, there, too, you know. and why are you offended again for her fate on her husband? yes ex why because you think her fate? i am setting. yes, i have that a child should grow up in a complete family. well, i grew up in a complete

family the way i grew up in a family, it's true. but the fact that children should grow up in complete families. this is a lie. no, i would like to it really wanted to lie, there is something. i only know sandwich. i'll give you a book, and you hold me a sandwich, where did you get this book. if you're not who you say you are, i'll find out and you 'll die after work and teach me your language. i think how to get rid of it. i'm just

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he didn't like. the family doesn’t want you for a moment, but he was still better than another man who will adore you. and as they say that you love women, you love her children and will love your children, but he will not be a biological pope, he will still be worse than if he was a biological one, in my opinion, right? no wrong. i am not like that. you don't, you definitely don't. i had a cross on myself, i don’t put it at all already. so that it then prevents you from thinking about the fact that while the children. they are small and while this significant man is needed for them , and in the first place you will also be, he did not find such a man. why didn't they find it? because natalia continue my phrase. we are already with you how to start each other the phrase continues, because they were looking for, or maybe because the first husband left such furrows on her heart, you understand that she lives according to your happiness, michael, she lives in some kind of

subconscious countries. she has such a burn and reflex twitches. all you understand, she is afraid to be touched. yes, of course, but it makes it difficult to search. yes, therefore, the task is to work with the cause of fear, and the cause of fear is always a belief , for example, yes, but here, most likely, it is not fear, the divorce itself or something is the fear of pain. yes, yes, yes, i agree. know you it seems that if you go to the left there will be pain , if you go there will be pain. it just wouldn't be better not to go. well, yes, it hurts. here, maybe such a relationship brings pain in fact, it's true. but what is the truth for? yes, i'm sorry, i'm 25 years in a relationship, what noted? uh, the wedding, how ill-prepared she is? here, uh, thanks. yes, relationships hurt. but that relationship brings only the pain of this lie, not the right relationship brings pain and

joy of limitation and opportunity. here they gave birth to beautiful children, completely without pain. not do you hear, don’t remember, but there was such a motivation, i wanted children and there was a directly strong motivation, what is our nature? now, it's not about motivation. it's about your fear. pain fear of pain also takes away your strength and loads your nervous system. fear of pain occurs not because of pain . perhaps, but because there is an opinion that there should not be pain in life, that life should be. wow my favorite unicorns and pink clouds. yes , the denial of pain leads to increased pain and vice versa, when we gradually but regularly we begin to speak to ourselves elena. yes, in my life, there can be pain. do you know why

there may be pain in your life, because you are a person, my good girl. here you are a person in your life, maybe more in my life and in the life of natalia and in life even in your daughter there can be pain. pain is a normal part of a mentally healthy person's life trying to throw the pain away. this is an attempt to become mentally ill. i have read your book. well , let's talk about what the picture of your life could be, in which, of course this pain will be, but joy and happiness will be more justified and will cover this pain and overshadow it. as i understand it, there are two scenarios to leave everything as it is, even three, and try to build relationships differently with management

literally. yes, you are like here, how to manage your relationship with the biological father of your children or radically reboot everything and maybe build this whole family with another person. here is which of these options seems to you, well, more feasible and desirable. well, leave it as it is option, otherwise you didn't have me here just here and build a new family. well then, please, allocate time for this, because here i am working, children are studying, and here i seem to have no time, but i want no adult understands that if he wants something, you need to allocate time and effort and so , not enough i'm ready or want. yes, as there is not enough, listen, okay. we are now talking not theoretical advice is very smart. yes, we are sitting here all over the country to be clever. i 'll tell you what you need.