reading and already, respectively, is not interesting. well, we'll try. we have it tonight, but it's already true, you've seen these memes, which are divided into several parts. here is the first cosmic yes 1 2 3, 4 you can stuff this in there, unlike, uh, buttons conditionally, like a comic book? it is clear when the whole story is in pictures. yes, well, it would be even cool, by the way, a good genre. like jokes, how to do everything, guys? we came up with something. e, but let's just say in one here, well, right here in the picture yes, i think that it's difficult is another matter, of course, when all sorts of fools are out there, uh, now they are trying to play a prank, they are filming there. eh, video. mostly. there is a guy girl, like family ones, when it's some kind of joke. they staged filming all this there in such a handicraft, probably, as if by chance , everywhere everyone is such-and-such a ratata, yes, you overplay it with a creepy one and so on. well, everything. uh

, the situations are anecdotal, that is, in fact, that is, all the same, people try to have a joke in their lives. well, maybe it helps this genre not to disappear somewhere. yes? well, by the way, that's when doing so is still considered sloppy on the internet. well, to be honest, if this is well , let's explain to the audience. uh, well, like, how to repeat yes type historical mothballs for the second time. yes , with a beard there, such as not fashionable, yes, and not in a timely manner. yes, when in short, it's nonsense that you're ready already just a joke and now it's reworking and still not skillfully somehow wins back. it is not listed on the market. and what is conserved in the market is a thing in the blogging market, a personal joke is a conscience. well, now the truth, first, the truth, the funniest truth of all, and true, when you wash yourself and it's funny

topical. and uh, for example, it's especially funny when you recognize not only yourself. and also your surroundings. ugh someone. this can also be thrown off, and then you can still look for it. recently, surprisingly , quite by accident, i will tell you a joke that i shot. i look, it means that the wine supermarket is already a joke, i look there and i go and say, listen, i say, e friends take off, she takes off me. i say there at one point to ask, like, what is it expensive for a psychologist. i say what i say on the video. and i i say this, and today, uh, i'll go to a psychologist. for what? is that expensive? i say, no, it's cheap there 490 on sale and she films me walking into a wine supermarket. well, it's funny on

the internet. and it seemed to me. this is such a completely abstract invention. well. everyone recognizes the responses, and psychologists are generally indignant at speaking like that, and drinking psychologists, in general, were even more indignant there. here, it's for this in a joke. i think it’s just jokes that we can’t retell funny and when it looks like a video format, what’s interesting to watch, then there is, in fact, after all, when they ask a question, yes, like, who came up with these jokes? well, it is believed that this is a folk genre, people, because there are some specially such authors of some yes, even russian and so on. well, it happened, that is, we came up with jokes there. well , it's still extremely hard. and how, well, to eat there went to the people. no, of course, no, some jokes left there. well, so that there was some kind of conglomerate that we were sitting, we come up with jokes.

that is, these are some, well, all the same , situations of real life that formed in and then they were screwed up there somewhere, attached, the sun, there is artistic fiction, someone i now interfered with the channels there. here's an anecdote for you. but that is, you are essentially yours with this, that you were not too lazy to come up with jokes and took off. that is, essentially. you made up a joke. here's an anecdote of the 21st century. i remind my friends that we hmm in the jokes podcast today are discussing the joke of the 21st century, of course, at all times. as they say, as we live, so we joke. yes, as alexander vasilievich maslyakov said there, here are the characters that vintage yes, and but the form is still there. well, a joke about what, yes, there, for example, there was once a joke about brezhnev yes, if today , then i don’t know to insert, there, uh, some other surname, i don’t know any leader there, well, foreign or domestic, or some new characters why they do not become, in your opinion, the characters

of jokes. that's why at the time, for example, well, loved ones. those heroes cheburashka and crocodile gena, the heroes of winnie the pooh and piglet, whom all the children watched, they, as it were, the heroes came out of a movie about shtirill becoming a hero. yes a lately. so many events took place in various stocks. why don’t jokes about ilona mask appear, for example, i don’t know why there aren’t a lot of jokes about canoe, which you can also find there, well, how to make friends, how you can read a book, i think there are jokes about the war, by the way, yes. well, the film avatar has thundered all over the world there, why aren’t there a bunch of jokes , two avatars meet, one says the second , well, in my opinion, that is, people have stopped inventing these forms. that is, maybe, in general, no one now takes it seriously, first of all. i think it's possible, we just don't know. we can't read all the newspapers. that is, somewhere there is an evening avatar yes, there and there are only jokes about you. i'm pretty sure there are a

lot of right anecdotes. here's the truth, well, it's not possible, we don't know him. here we just saw the picture was present there. that's the meme, yes, that is, it's already somehow lightened into humor and also among comedians at stand-up comedians. often something can be traced in stand-ups, but avatar - this, for example, is not super relevant despite the fact that it came out anyway. the theme is that the film was made for a very long time and everyone was waiting for it for several years. eh, he came out and played a little bit of a film there, which they didn’t wait to make for several years, but he came out and won. that is, our cheburashka puts some kind of it on the topic of the day, because there is a precedent here in what happened, but so that in general after the first exit. there is an avatar of jokes of some conductors. well, you didn't agree, actually. yes, that's great would it be clear to modernize? why do people have

such an attitude towards jokes, because they think that it is outdated. for the genre. what is this? and that's why there is such an attitude, but as you said zashkvar, like, right? tell a joke to many ask if tell me a joke, no one will ever tell you that you know a joke, it seems to me that you can literally change your attitude to a joke with just one letter e. you can call a joke to me a joke, but they are already a joke to dota jokes, 2 team a in general could be done, but how in marvel has different universes of superheroes, please, basically the same story, that is, there is a universe uh, russian german and french figures who always three of them got together piglet so they corresponded. yes, this is a podcast of jokes, as always. i'm vadim golygin. i have wonderful

guests in the studio, and people who work with humor alexander schneider and evgenia iskandarova today the topic of our program is a joke of the 21st century, given that all this has already come to us, right? here are these fanfiction memes and so on. how difficult is it to create stories here and there some kind of joke, well , somehow or or this, as you know, like people who were afraid to tell jokes. here , too, i won’t be able to take something cool there, shoot it at well and comment. for example, i thought it was easier. that's why people slip into this . uh, because it's easier to do, that is, jokes should go out to the public, roughly speaking, yes, well, there is even one or two people. you have to tell your eyes to do it all, and all these vines, all these similar stories. you take the phone, you just take a picture of yourself, no one sees what's next, then they will write to you. this is the second thing. and so you took it off and that's it, you're not ashamed,

and then posted it and already then listen no, but you're talking jokes. we have to go out in front of the people. and whoever went out in front of the people, you are sitting in the kitchen, here they are, the drivers are grandmother, and you start working. i'm ashamed. they saw you, five years old, when you were picking your own poop there, that it’s a shame to tell a joke it’s not ashamed, just just not ashamed. well, there has to be a place and a time for everything. you can't. well, depending on what kind of upbringing there is in families or, for example, that is, for example, we are on the air, too, we can’t tell all sorts of jokes. here you know some anecdote that would not be vulgar and without obscenities, and that's how television is like that. so, sorry, it’s written here, i’m reading it. the first time a guy tells a friend, he and his girlfriend decided to speak only in english on wednesdays, any questions and answers should sound only in english, so on wednesdays we don’t we are talking. here, of course, there are some

jokes that, well, you don't know how to react to them, but you see it. what, most likely, is the best issue of this journalist in general jokes. yes , i’ve put my jokes in there now, if i’m joking, no, no, there are just good quality jokes that it’s not embarrassing to really tell the public. even i 'm sure there are such jokes and a huge number of them that you, uh, there, as a stand-up comedian, will endure, tell on stage, and everyone will laugh and perceive. it's not like they are up to the type of a joke word already, namely, like stand-up. like a cool story from you, but there are jokes that are better not to even read. uh huh, i understand. you can tell a joke from yourself when a crow sits. uh climbs the cow on the first. where are you going, he says, there are apples.

he says, you that the cows are birch, and i have with me, that is, you can’t tell me that i had a case in the village, i’m going. i suddenly see a cow, i hope. no, why do you say that, it was such a case for me, uh, you are such and such and how you turn people into another. that is, if it was, like, there, you estimate, and here is a cow, maybe it's, well, understandable. that is, you believe that transformation can take place. the main thing is to be able to do it, right? well, as if they actually laughed, which is a joke, goodbye. i never even heard the jokes. it's like a joke, that kvn certainly builds it all up. e that the rest of the programs are humorous, which were before which are no longer there. they built it. uh, our sense of humor. well, here are us comedians, for example, without this, we would not even understand what is funny, what is not funny, which is there, well, passed. this was also divided into two things.

it was just humor, understandable to everyone, stupid swearing, such a piston there, and part of the satire component. that is, it is political there, social satisfies, and so on, some of these jokes that they were afraid to tell in the kitchens, there were three and so on. well, in any case , i agree with you that everyone who reads left an imprint on us. mostly. eh, wrote filitons. there were screenwriters who wrote specifically for those who read monologues. there were namely, some were able to tell, while others simply wrote to them there, and some told their own creativity. yes, i need to forget the witticisms and aphorisms, of course , and we all grew up on this, but basically there the topics were such basic ones , my husband was returning from a business trip there. here is the wife. his there meets the rolling pin there turned into a salary. mother-in-law, son-in-law is some kind of subordinate boss. well, something about brezhneva there, and so on and so forth, but today, here’s what, uh, how to joke, because life has become

faster. yes, well, they talked about it, it became oversaturated with information that people receive before they received information, where they talked somewhere in the dining room or a smoke break turned on the tv 1 2 channels told the whole country. that point also told there how to treat varicose veins correctly there. everything now is oversaturation of a person with any information, including everything related to humor, maybe that's why, that is, people are lost. they no longer understand what is funny, what is not funny, because you understand a lot of everything? here's how we let you. well, bought some kind of candy there, yes, there for the weekend they gave you some cockerel, and then you come to the room littered with chocolate and marmalade and so on to be exactly here, uh, progress uh, which came to us in the form of all these gadgets, where every second. you can do something with a claim, maybe it kills, in general, the perception of humor. listen,

right. you said there was so much humor already. it seems to me that in kvn i joke about everything jokes, comic switched to everything, then now on the internet. you can also see humor on any topic, and it seems to me that at some point. now it's getting really funny. and from, for example, surprise or from the courage of what a person says. well, i mean, we couldn't say things before. like, well, i have to think. yes, just think, well, that is, i understand what you are talking about, that is, the boundaries have expanded and now there is everything, i, well , you are typing some kind of search engine, i don’t know there, i don’t know the horse there, which has 70 nipples and the children will give out a picture there, yes, as if someone thought about it and drew such nonsense there, i’m now relatively speaking, and there it is in this, in all the garbage.

here in this, you understand, in this bottomless dump on the internet, that is, there is nothing, but the most i’m talking about is that for four seconds they didn’t show those there naked something there or someone something somehow you you say you didn’t blather there everything, everything, it’s not interesting, that is , someone must definitely show something, some thing, or there. uh, something dirty to swear, or something that just here, well, nothing with humor has nothing to do with it. the way you only talk with surprise, like, yeah, okay, i mean, it's more like surprising people. but to think about something, that is, well, it seems to me that there really is just a lot of humor, and moreover, uh, in its various genres, and miniatures and stand-ups and some funny songs, and memes and everything, and therefore , it is difficult to surprise a person now, and he needs to be hooked from the very beginning. that is, if you don’t initially hook a person somehow and tell a joke, or this kind of video begins, then he saw, saw, heard, or not funny and get away with it. that is, you need immediately from the first that it turns out. yes? time

is running. yes, we are all oversaturated. that is, in principle, there is no need to create any programs related to humor, because well, what new will it show? yes, i have already seen everything, that is, it turns out that we are, uh, like people. who are engaged in humor, are doomed to some extent or what? yes, that is, we are like we are like a sunset on such dinosaurs, which have not yet been knocked down, mammoths have already died out there, and everything will still fly to us, that is, it turns out. so it seems, on the contrary to look for some new forms that humor is now, on the contrary, stand-up is so much in demand now. he has already reached a new level. previously , no one understood what a standard was. and why then come now to check the material? that's when you go, when i'm here today, for example, in the evening, i'll go to dad in the beer pap where will people sit? and i will check the material there for 10 minutes of new stuff and people

listen with pleasure and even more if i ask who came here specifically for me. listen to me people will applaud because they, well, this is your viewer. yes, he likes this form. went there 20 people to spend an evening somehow. on both sides, i also listened to my favorite artist, i understand, but i 'm talking about the form itself. i still want to bring this genre back. i want youth again. basically, you have to walk through them. there , to instill in young children precisely this ability to be cool in a company, because you know how to tell a witty thing, let's call it this is a joke, that is, well, anyway, uh. let's call it a joke. here i agree the word itself is the word. consider it exactly. yes, oh cool fine. phone anecdote - this is grandfather in fact, an anecdote. he is a joke grandfather. and that's the same as boys guys, to be cool in the company you need to be a grandfather, just cross out the word anecdote, like, just, well, cross it out

and that's it. ok then. that is, you think that whatever you call a boat, that's how it will float. that is, this is such a new or , as you say, the latest joke, bugagashechka. do you want boogie? yes, now i’ll tell you just a mumble, right? the key word is yes, when you want to start let's go crazy. we so distorted our language, poor even today sometimes to understand what is at stake in general, that is, when they talk to each other there. okay, because this is zhiza zaskvarnaya, that is, you need to take into account the translator. you know, there i urgently find out what it means, let's. that's what e first of all, thank you for your opinion. and, of course, there was something i could hear. well, it's not that unpleasant, but i would really, that i learned something, and now, maybe

, are you really right that the name itself can change? that is, if now get out there and say, let's dance the mazurka. yes, let's say. what a mazurka. yes, if you come up with a new name for this dance, and somehow do something there, i’ll say that i saw a new cool dance, they came up with something, somehow i’m afraid to say a word, everything again, a joke. but let's come up with an anecdote called the audience for themselves time runs tirelessly. yes, we are oversaturated with everything including humor, which, in fact, perception leads to what you should be very quickly. well, it's funny. that is, you are not ready to sit and listen a long orthodox story there, uh, an anecdote. yes, you need zarya, ah, this is now like working more, yes, but what we did not agree on. that is, i still think that a good anecdote is much funnier and funnier. yes, but you still think that the future is called this

short form. yes, that is, well, transformed, uh, ordinary or not the way you think life is, well okay, then, then i'll just say, then i'll emphasize what they said, that, in principle, even uh, a new comer there is a genre in the subconscious of people standup. yes, when people come out and tell some interesting stories, since, in principle, one can also add an anecdote to one's experiences. yes, but do not call him such as in that funny story. yes, as you remember, yes, i'm just so funny. now i remembered, my dad says all the time until now, and he will always warm like that. oh, like in that joke. this is interesting to me. what is that anecdote? when you have any life situation with him, as in that anecdote, from which he thinks that i know, that anecdote. he emphasizes so well. you know zhenechka, he emphasizes that for almost any life situation. there are a

lot of anecdotes. that is, like this, well, for any situation. there are a huge number of works, there are romanovs, that is, in general, and in this case, anecdotes also say an anecdotal situation with something that friends figured out today. it was a podcast of jokes and today. e, my company was made up of my colleagues in the workshop, and people who work with humor are alexander schneider. and evgeny and skandarov. zhenechka sash thank you friends. my. total good, good mood see you soon. this is a creative industry podcast and elena kiper is in the roman karmanov studio and we are talking today with the great soviet and russian writer sergey lukyanenko. and somewhere else they write, a psychiatrist. but seriously, well, that's right, yes, the former ex, well, there are

always no former big mystery of how a writer gives birth to such massive huge works. how is it all born? how do you this you you how do you nurture you compose? or they themselves come more part of the account themselves. i don't really think that here the profession of a psychiatrist is very important doctors, of course, there are many among writers and among writers. fastov too. well, there are dentists and therapists and surgeons. it doesn't interfere. uh, but actually, a medical education probably gives some kind of plus. like any education teaches. from looking at the world in a systematic way, and since childhood i loved science fiction, and for me, as it were, the main favorite technique, when i started writing, was to introduce some kind of unexpected fantastic assumption into the world, and after that, how one single assumption appears. you can see what is happening in the world. is it possible

to teach to be a science fiction writer here is a difficult question . you can help to learn. you now have, uh, two projects at once. as far as i know, these are the stars in the donbass one and another workshop by lukyanenko - it's all about young beginners. uh, unknown, uh, writers, well, who or who thinks he is a writer e according to your observations. that's how many people from those who have seen can actually become a writer in the future. well the stars over the donbass, after all not quite my project. uh, i'm participating in it, it started 5 years ago as a project of cultural assistance to the residents of donbass, because people were completely cut off from the media environment. they could not see the favorite performers of the writers, and we came to meet with the readers. they just showed that they were not forgotten. as for

the hmm literary workshop. eh, it's really here. i think this is a very big deal. uh, writing is a very lonely job writing. for the most part he sits at home, e at the computer and writes. you know, how in the first years of soviet power, writers gave the name of a single handicraftsman without a motor. this is how we stayed. as soon as we had a motor computer, and in order for a creative writer to somehow develop, he needs to communicate with his colleagues. if necessary, listen not only to the voices of readers, everything is clear there. there will be those who will scream - this is the best book i have read and those who will scream that this is a terrible graphomania, in general stop writing forever. and here is the opinion of colleagues who also write support for their criticism. their. this is very important and for this just existed before. uh, all kinds of seminars where

they were going to write or and young authors under the guidance of mayors. such as uh snow, belenkin. e, strugatsky well, there are many of our wonderful writers there. they, under the guidance of these, er, writers, studied, sort of trained. eh, they understood what was good and what was bad. this tradition was broken for a long time for 20 years, at least. and now we have revived it. we had the first such workshop in the fantastic city of korolev near moscow and gathered 36 people from all over the country. uh, they came together, for the first time they saw that there were the same ones nearby. uh, people who are completely passionate about this communicated during the week, they were engaged in parsing each other's texts. uh, the lecturers came. i mean, it was a kind of cauldron where they were brewing, and i just saw that when they left, they are still

boiling, they continue to communicate, argue, uh, show each other fragments. we are visiting. e, sergei the great soviet, writer science fiction writer and russia, yes, i watched the american tv series, which means somehow, and there was such a plot, and a person who thinks that he is talented or not, talented, he has the opportunity to take a pill. and if he is really talented his talent is revealed. he begins to write from the side of the force. and if not, the talented one turns into vampires into zombies. in general, he starts walking and eating people, here. at the dawn of your activities. uh, when you realized that you can generally eat a pill already, but in fact the writer, when he even wrote his first story. he must be generally sure that he is a genius, at least potentially. uh, here without it, you can't do this job without it, because you look on the shelf of bookstores and you get sick and you think

what i'm doing. for what? am i writing anything else? he has already written a lot, but in a good way, probably, it was a book atomic dream. i have such an old, old, completely written, in my opinion, 20 years old story. and when i wrote it, i suddenly realized that it was more or less good. i realized that i was succeeding and somehow noted this for myself. so joyfully, and then there were several more such works. there were these autumn visits, after which i realized that i wrote a good novel. uh, there were spectrum and a few more books, that is, every time, like this, at a certain stage , you write some kind of book and think. i'm great. i took some peak for myself and you can eat the pill again. and now young people are asking you how to make money. well, they ask, of course, they ask, they ask about what is the scheme when a person

works all day, and in the evening he sits and writes something. well , she's still young. maybe e ride. and when a person is already 30-40 years old, then in the evening you still want to relax a little, and not do a second job of writing. this is also work. now i just advise everyone to say, go and engage in electronic publications, because young people now love it very much. uh, there are a lot of sites like reading from a tablet from a phone and so on. where are you authors? this is how they are displayed. and there people pay. well, a person announces a subscription, says, here i am writing a novel right there, read three chapters for free. if you like it, there for 50 rubles. you will read to the end there or at the table, who evaluates their work and as a result some authors become super popular earn

big really big money, but there is another danger here, because he is a reader, uh, a person who wants to receive all the time what he already liked. and so the young, the author wrote his novel, everyone screamed there. wow man. suddenly earned him there for 20 years. he wrote a book and earned there in a couple of months more than his dad earns in a year. his eyes are on fire. he screams. now i will write a new book to read or screams. no, we like it. write a sequel to the person already. strictly speaking, there are no ideas to continue, but it is necessary. he sits down. they are writing a second book. so now i'm writing a new one. no, he writes, then he says the third to himself. no, i'll write a new one. i 'm a writer, he writes a completely new story and all his faithful readers. they say fu not at all what we wanted and he sees that he is in a financial failure and as a result a person begins to earn a young author, but he is forced to work. that's purely by order

of the public. you always write what you feel like what torments you almost always i tried a couple of times, uh work. let's just say it's on order. uh, usually it was connected with some kind of computer games, that is, people create a computer game, it is interesting and they have an idea. but if a famous writer writes e a novel about our computer game, then she will become even more popular. yes, it basically works. eh, but when you write such a novel to order, you're persuaded, motivated, you sit and write, but do you feel that you, in general, are still doing it? uh, not what he wanted, this is a very unpleasant feeling. i've uh written books like this a couple of times. uh, well, don't really want to repeat eating the recipe. how many hours per day do you need to invest in? well, there is, uh, such a good rule to write, at least a little every day. that's

at least half a page at least a page. uh, to be honest, even if the page is a man will write. uh, every day one page of computer text there is a word, then he will write a couple of novels in a year. stephen king banned the film adaptations of several of his works , not only adaptations to theater settings, but they were connected with the fact that children are just like in american schools. uh, over the past 10 years, these cases have been repeated, and committing murder with children, he forbade it. he categorically did not give anyone permission. and you have such, perhaps not. i know what it's about. uh, king has several stories about teenagers who did school shootings there and, frankly, i didn’t write such things, yes, and in general these books. i think king's is not the best, but let 's get back to the industry, after all, yes, uh, indeed, the western industry

captured our market for a while. well, it's quite obvious. now it has partly receded, but it subsided along with the interest of our citizens too. that is, they continue to look for western western, western tv series, films and so on. do we need to make any extra efforts to ensure that this attention bring back inland to our work soil to our fiction to our series our movies and so on. it seems to me that any such film production is the production of games the production of quality music. this is , in fact, also a production. sacrifice this is a product that can be sold to earn in the worst case, the money simply remained inside the country, and at best it is also an export product. that is, e supports is worth at least starting from this in fact in the same serial production. i think we are now have already reached quite a decent parity not everywhere, we are pulling out on special effects on

technology. this is understandable, because it adds up to less than the sum, but in terms of the performance of the actors in the plot of e, we are already fully drawing out and there are a number of projects. again, i will not name which people look with delight, and they are ahead. eh, some western counterparts. but if we continue the topic, then go to foreign territories with our films and our meanings with our books. as far as it is just as necessary and there is something uh, well , it seems to me, there is something like me. let's say about ourselves i don’t know now, i think they will publish much less in europe, eh, but in fact they still publish now and there is still a proposal and everything is very actively going to the east. uh, there is a lot of interest in china. there is an interest in our culture. in general, it has traditionally been preserved. and you can go there

, you have to go. i'm getting out. there's now book after book in china. oh, well, now we have box office receipts, if we talk about cinematic, and very high right now, literally these two months. i mean until my collection. but we have good news. uh, next new the year, apparently, will still be accompanied by an exit. e a large number of premier and la-la. i think, i think, yes, i think, yes, i say again, i serve on my own in terms of the number of projects in which i am directly or indirectly involved. uh, it's projects that price, well, film projects, television scripts , selling the rights to the books. i see that we are very active here. now here is a spread of e on their authors and on domestic

production. well, it seems to me that it is going even faster than many expected a year ago, and it is coming. that's good, he goes without centralized instructions from above. as they say, we are all used to what it takes to be told from above to quickly develop your computer, there and so on. uh, it turned out that in the movie industry industry. in general, people themselves, without a team, begin to develop and launch projects on this positive note. it's time for us to wrap up the creative industry podcast. how would you like to talk more? okay, let's talk. yes, we were visiting. uh, science fiction writer sergei lukyanenko dear friends. see you again. thank you