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[000:00:00;00] it means so wary, uh, opened roman, but when we already m-let’s say about it, you don’t immediately roll into it, because i must say, it ’s not written quite simply , some kind of complex is written, andrei bely’s petersburg is such complex syntactic constructions, to wade through through them it is necessary, but there is something for which it is not easy, but everything fell into place when i realized that seryozha was writing a modern liad. that is, when i realized that we have this confrontation. rather, in his novel there is a confrontation between two aces. uh, this german pilot and the soviet stalinist sokol zarygin. and this is a confrontation. i considered how the confrontation between hector and achilles in homer , and then on. the soviet military threat is a myth for sure, and he
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even has it on a technical basis. it is noticeable to me, because if you start reading this book aloud, you will see that at times it goes into hexaments. he rhythmizes this prose, that is , if not just with his eyes, yes, quickly skip, and look so carefully, then you see how the adjective lines up and everything adds up to a certain a to certain rhythmic ones. eh, sample. so this is really practically an ejector. and it was a huge risk on the part of the author , of course, but it seems to me a big one, yes, but he won. of course, look, despite the conventionality of the mythological space and the method that sergey samsonov uses. i am in some places. here in this in this powerful such as pozh-iron sheets beat from each other their exams. and sometimes i could not hold back the tears, despite the unrealistic nature of the story, that is, samsonov standing up, on which it is absolutely like an ancient greek choir in
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an ancient greek tragedy. chalk penetrates precisely into the tragic plane by creating, but a truly large, large-scale work, and it is very different from the prose of the lieutenants of the 20th century, very very emphasized by the conventionality of the events taking place. although personality. yes, although there is uh, and practical details and a lot of hobbies, it is clear that he studied the material seen about it. by the way, we need to talk more today, because this is one of the important differences between modern prose. the fact is that e participants in the war, e, and bondyrev and boris vasiliev and so on. they do not dwell so much on the technical details of the contemporaries. and seryozha or i would have a seam and other authors. uh, often addicted to wikipedia. i understand access to information has become huge. and when you start doing research. you. well, you are fond of this or that fact, yes , technical and this affects, and in the end
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big there, but meet. that the machine gun fired at a speed of 1,200 rounds per minute, and i think so, i think so. and why should i know? here but this is precisely, as it were, the author's delight from the information that he has now received. well, by the way, since you're talking about a big fucking wonder that two writers. in general, i think independently come. here's to this idea to portray the war as a confrontation. well, two people. yes, some achilles yes, uh, and uh aces. both are cheap. this is the tankers, which means our tanker, who appears. here is the beginning of the romanas story of roman's bewitching, when this man, who is absolutely burned there. the tankers who have already stumbled don't even want to heal either 98, there or 90%, and the skin that suffered from a burn and suddenly he is like that miraculously. yes, this is some kind of magical moment, yes, which is present here, this person is resurrected.
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it turns out that this is a brilliant mechanic, and it means he is returning to service and his task is to knock out the same brilliant white tiger it means that the fascist tank and this duel of two soviet and german tankers actually constitutes the idea of ​​this story of this book, according to which, by the way, karen shakhnazarov made a film white tiger. yes , but this is really written by ours, and sovremennik is his attitude to the war. another book about which i would like to say, i have already mentioned it, but the cloudy floor by eduard verkin. and this is a very interesting book, because it is dedicated to the pioneers of the heroes. more precisely one pioneer. lenya golikova who are people well of ours with you generation is fine. remember. yes, all soviet childhood. we read about the pioneers of heroes. they really were there by our numirs, role models a lot was written about them. i remember when i was a child, one of my favorite books was the book of lev mower, the street of the youngest son, which
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is dedicated to. where is the cudgel yes to our pioneer hero in kerch these are the kerch quarries and now the modern author eduard verkin describes in modern language the history of this partisan. leni golikova without calling him by name, he is there all the time sanych sanych by patronymic, as if to your own. compare two books, how they mowed down such a good thing in the best sense of the word. here is the soviet narrative, and the novel of education that unfolds , you see the character of this hero, who, well , practically such, here is such an icon, yes, such a boy who has almost no flaws. and if they have, it overcomes. yes, he is alive, and at the same time a very good book, and verka has a completely different child for this. yes, another teenager. he is scruffy. he's complex. he is conflicted. he may be prickly somewhere some. well, you're addicted. you fall under the spell. this book is very cool. and what is it? and the question is still why, and
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now i would like to see you. to turn it, because, of course, another, but a very bright book dedicated to the great patriotic war, which appeared already in the new century. in the new millennium. this is your novel gods of the steppe, which won a national bestseller award that enjoys huge readership as well. i specifically re-read it for this program and once again just rejoiced and admired how it's all well written. here, now let's talk about you about your book, why and why did you write it? how did it happen? it was extremely important for me to understand what my grandfather felt at the front. uh, fighting against the quantonese army. september forty-five. uh, i wrote the book when i was already twice the age of my then-grandfather, and so it became. eh, plus is even more important to me. i hmm started this novel sometime in 2007-2008. and when i
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myself have very serious problems in my inner self, i don’t know how this is self-determination self-identification. yes? i needed to define for myself. ah, goal setting. well, how did he define it? i began to recall the stories of my grandfather from my childhood about the war, and began to write to my grandmother. she was still living then. e, in the chita region began to ask questions about that time. eh, because i was just looking in the history of my country for a point where it was, perhaps, even more difficult for people than it was for me in the nineties, and i found this point. i understand. here, for whom it was very difficult for these people who survived that great war. and this excuse me for a second. it's just that my grandfather and my grandmother and grandmother are still alive. and so i can ask. and how are you? this? how did you manage? yes, you were young. you were there for 25-26 years. and she needs to live, love and give birth to children, and so on. and why the main character
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was a boy in this case? i somehow intuitively realized that i want to look at it through the eyes of a child, as if with my own eyes, that is, since this is my grandfather, yes, then i needed to make a point of view below the horizon. these are adults. and this is the look of a child, firstly, he is not clouded by evaluative categories. and, despite the fact that he is integrated into the entire soviet ideology, he is delighted with military heroics. eh, he likes all this madly, and he dreams of dying in the war for the motherland for comrade stalin, but nevertheless, he still has a very strong and objective understanding of good and evil. yes, he is not yet clouded by complex social interactions with the universe and the world around him, he is not yet ready for compromises. this is, uh, not willing to compromise. i have a very uh in my pet, she was to me, dear. i therefore actually wrote on his
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behalf. that's why i started writing roman with such great trepidation and anxiety. it was important for me to understand. what happened to my homeland with my grandfather. i also fought somewhere, but he never said anything about the war. he passed away quite early. if he lived a little longer i would, of course, try to talk to him anyway, but at that moment i was a child, but a person doesn’t want to tell, so he doesn’t want to tell, but we had such a very curious story at the school where i studied and about the usual moscow special school, but there was a museum in it, the museum of military glory. i was kind of informal, not that it's a formal, bureaucratic thing. no, it really was. a very serious story. there was such a wonderful geography teacher for us, and olga alekseevna gorocheva. her name was. and so she came up with the idea of ​​making the museum of the military unit. 9903 i must say that this military unit was very unusual, this is the same unit in which the evil kosmodemyanskaya fought. that is, in fact, it was
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the unit that prepared these reconnaissance and sabotage groups that threw it in were made in the fall of the forty -first year, they were thrown over the front line so that they would arrange these of their own. yes, sabotage in the occupied territory, and basically, there were young girls, young guys who did not have military training, but komsomol members who volunteered to sign up for the war there and offered, if you want to take part in such a story, here are those of them who survived, they came to our school, met with us, and i remember one veteran with such cheerful gray hair, and he says, well, how can i tell you how it should be or how it was, and she says how it was. here's exactly what he said. i don't remember now. i'm sorry i don't remember. i remember something else. here come the veterans. it was always december 6, and on the day when our counter-offensive began near moscow, when the germans were beaten off. and here they came from some, just a lot, a lot,
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which means that others have almost no orders. well, and children's consciousness, so this one fought well. and this one, maybe fought somehow worse and i remember someone here this idea. well, how did you say it out loud, or was it a question of some kind? why does my uncle have so many medals, and this uncle has so many i remember, a tough answer that it does not mean anything, that very often worthy people did not receive medals. for example, i never knew, and here is my grandfather. like yours, too, it did not spread very much in the war. uh, well, he said some things. but, for example, he never said why he received the award, and then some years passed already later, even after the release of the novel, and one, my good a friend helped me find award lists in the archives in the archives of the ministry of defense, award lists for my grandfather and so i got photocopies with trepidation and began to read and read, that on september 15, 1945, in such and such, that means, e
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area. uh, there was some kind of clash on the gun commander of the second battery of the 817th regiment gerasimov anton lantern. skillfully fired, uh, from his gun, aiming it with direct fire personally. e, repelled the japanese counterattack, destroying eight japanese soldiers, and then we read a little lower, well, there year of birth, which medal is assigned and below is written in the red army since 1943, but did not participate in hostilities. so i 'm starting to think. so this is the first fight. so the man has arrived. yes, a man turned out to be in a combat situation at that moment there for 26 years. ah, this is howitzer artillery. i knew that, there is always a howitzer battery , aleksey nikolaevich, always a little behind, they hit the infantry over the head of our soldiers. e in the enemy there further they are a little in
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the rear, which means in the battle formations of the infantry. means it turns out that the infantry rolled back here, then personally repelled the enemy’s counterattack, and it was clear that the infantry had a breakthrough from the side of the japanese, moved back, rolled up to the howitzer battery, and are sitting here. these gunners. the smokers suddenly saw that all this was rushing instead of meaning to say, but to grab the head of the order and run away. they start firing their howitzers. and they have a stem. this is how i should teach at an angle, because it hits a canopy far over 20 kilometers and it says again i say direct fire, and i i understand that they have time in these fractions of seconds , which means that the enemy is rolling towards them and the retreating soldiers begin to lower the barrel, this takes time. so, give some commands. yes, we lower the barrel, time is running out, these are getting closer and closer and at that moment a huge projectile. it is necessary to fill the breech with a shot, another shot, another shot, and the enemy’s counterattack is repelled. i think it's 26 years old. first fight. you find yourself in such a situation.
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no, it's even scary to imagine yourself in the place of my grandfather. and he alexei nikolaevich never didn't tell me about it. i read it from his commander's handwritten notes. that is, well, maybe they shouldn’t have told them about it, that is, they didn’t want to be famous, maybe they shouldn’t, but it just really turns out that this is our idea of ​​war. it's really not complete here , it's interesting just to see how different generations react to the same event. that is, if in the prose of lieutenants we hear e, the voice of a participant in events, and there you can directly feel the objectivity of what is happening, you are specifically in this situation, when when you read bondarev you meet the phrase literally. at the very beginning of the novel. uh, and the sand creaked on the teeth in the hot snow. yes, that is, sand creaks on the teeth. and you, when you read, you understand that a man is coming. yes, he inhaled him running, and this sand creaks in him. but with this squeak of sand on his teeth, seryozha samsonov cannot have it because
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he perceives the war on a different level, he was not there. it didn't go in his mouth. this is dust at the moment of attack. yes, and he was not sitting in a thermop. he takes it really mythological point of view. here's homer's. yes? a-a is looking for generalizers in it. this is another generation of some generalizing beginnings of elements , and so on. yes, the boishov relies. e on the tradition of herman melville. yes, white is white. yes , of course, very reminiscent of e white whale mobidika from this novel. and his hero himself, this evan ivanovich , was found, in my opinion, he calls his name, and this is clearly the captain, the hahaf of the captain, hav, who rushes with a harpoon across the seas and oceans, just to kill this personified evil of this strange white whale. yes and here is the white tiger yes, the white tank here, and as you can see, uh, i repeat once again, if the specific prose of the lieutenants impresses us with the effect of presence, like authenticity,
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as if they were in paid off right next to you, as if someone is on your shoulder now. he will say, brother, leave a smoke, that is, here we have. i don’t know about such people, if you want a mythologically mythological consciousness, which is necessary for this mythology about war to be created. in general, this is a good mythology. well yeah, it's so right then there is, of course, e bring your own view. so on, so they are exhaustible, so i hope that people will continue to write, because you know, not so long ago we , in my opinion, a year or a year and a half ago, uh, filmed for one channel a documentary film ticket to war with literary students institute. we filmed it, they showed it in the frame , so they, and now we arrived near petersburg , which means that, where the oreshek fortress stands, there is a railway station nearby and there are small private, but it is clear that such an unfortunate small museum of this railway station, where these trains
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were formed, which went ah, from the mainland, delivered, as soon as the opportunity appeared to extend the railway line and break the blockade, then these trains. she was all shaking on the logs, there were these rails of sleepers, practically not pontoon yes and one of my students. so, this museum worker is worth it. he asks, and they were shot at at that time, when they were building this all the time, that is bombers. they fly all the time, artillery, a howitzer object, it’s located 15 km away yes, it’s mysterious there and hits directly where the crossing is being built, where the railway is being built, and this road was extremely important, because the first food went through it in besieged leningrad maybe the student asks. and how, uh, did the bomb hit the canvas? she says, right? so? it also says that it was destroyed, that it was not built. she was breaking down. she says. yes, he says, as she says, well, they rebuilt it. and this is what i remember and the surprise of my students and these photos of people there, drivers, who were
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just like some kind of hollywood superheroes alexey niko about one she told me. he says was just here au know what he was doing. and as soon as the train left the german reconnaissance, they received information from their reconnaissance aircraft there, and attack aircraft immediately flew out to bomb this train, which means they fly out. so he says he learned to do he maneuvered. you can imagine maneuvering on rails neither to the left nor to the right. you can't do it anyway, so you can only maneuver speed. he hears that the lighthouses are following him, they carry a bomb, yes, and a machine gun and so on. he slams on the brakes. she says she gives them a turn, and releases puffs of steam in which the locomotive hides and imitates knocking out mister says they will circle, they will circle, they will leave. he quietly, quietly does not include in it creeps further. i saw his photographs, a surprisingly handsome
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man, this people did not win. yes, yes, yes, well , thank you very much andrey valerievich for this conversation it was a podcast life of the wonderful with you alexey varlamov writer rector literary institute we talked about the heroes of the great patriotic war and the modern writers who write wars. i love these turquoise royal ones of yours. this is from those times, without turquoise at all, i don’t remember. that's never and it somehow suits you. well stuck, because you want, but it turned out to be my stone, although it’s not mine at all, it will emerald,
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you know, but turquoise has become some kind of talisman and the color is absolutely amazing, so i really like it. oh, i'll introduce you, and katya christmas daughter is visiting me of the brilliant soviet poet robert rozhdestvensky well, who doesn’t know, suddenly you speak somehow beautifully, brilliant so i think that it’s absolutely brilliant yes, absolutely brilliant ksyusha is the subject of study by psychologists all over the world, that is, psychologists do not have it, because now what is the main topic of parental family without dad. mom's dislike , this enmity, hatred, and so on. i always looked at you, but i knew each other. e, with mother, the kingdom of heavenly fat. that's how it is when they're just a complete mom and dad family to me. this is binom newton, i can’t even
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imagine. how is it when mom and dad parents love children. children absolutely adore their parents and not that they bow down. well , it's just love to the point of spasms, and at the same time , parents who love each other madly from the first day they met and to the grave . is that how it is, how to live in such an atmosphere? kat i can't imagine. well , it's probably some kind of anomaly lived and did not see and never met. that's it, really, it seems to me, yes, it looks like i haven't seen, all the more here are such relationships, like mom and dad, tell me, did you always understand. that's what you always knew. that you are a happy girl, or because she did not know another life. a? and besides, star guests house a full bowl, but beautiful things. dad brings.
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e from business trips to you some beautiful sister. mom loves grandma. and here it always smells delicious at home and there is no need to stand in lines there for bananas. this is how how is it possible to live like this? well, how could you, but i hated everyone. i generally hated people when i was little, because they took away time from communicating with my parents. i adored my parents so much that, uh, every visit of some sort of voznesensky stew hmm to obzon. magomayeva turned anyone into a wild animal and crawled under the table , many people remembered me under the table. here is a teenager there 10-11 years old. and at school, you weren't slandered, no, well, you see, how cool, how happy. you watch because everything children develop marina just u change marina u teachers for what i wore there u boots-stockings, do you remember there were some
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things i had there they were forbidden to wear them. and so uh, well, for some reason they forced me to have an a in literature. well, of course, you remember, uh, and all the wishes of all the elements addressed to you from dad. and in general, everything, because you do it, because your legacy, which you treat with such trepidation, as you carefully and popularize, and i know what kind of birthdays you arrange for dad. well, in general cool but congratulations on the twentieth anniversary, if you let me, of course. we will not frown today, our katyukha is over 20 years old. my daughter and i are suffering and want to continue to suffer, i will show you how it looked, in kind. i took this sheet. i think that such things that are handmade are much more important. that 's it, you know it was somehow not crying. i don't understand, i 've never had anything like this in my life. you know, i have all
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the tears inside. they are not here all inside. i don't let them out, otherwise i would be all the time at all, when, well, i read letters correspondence, here are scarlet roberts i want to cry all the time, but there is what we really have, i just, probably, some kind of vaccination has already formed and because i relaxed in it. for me, this is not surprising. so it was supposed to, where do you know, on the day of the 20th anniversary of the birthday, when ksyusha was born 12 12 years old. i know that when alla became pregnant, she came to her room with a question. eh, requests for advice to give birth to yourself to take to your sister or not to give birth? and you said leave. i said very mature phrase. let's leave it, but at the same time i also asked to think a little, probably for the sake of appearance, but i really wanted to, in my opinion, they were very adults. yes, where do children come from? and what is pregnancy anyway? how pregnancy should have known and i was very well versed in the sexual issue,
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because, and papa's mother was a doctor and i knew everything, thoroughly mesmerized me. these atlases, and then, probably, guests came, and well, such a creative elite, uh, who doesn’t choose very much and not very much, so selectively say yes. communicating with each other is not filtered, as they say today from the text, and you, of course, warmed your ears under the table and everywhere you understood everything, who was with whom? who why who why who is cheating on whom no lar even not bones, but another grandmother and mother's line, which is cast. she was with me in front of the dancer, so all these abortions, all these novels, all these. well, that's it, it was always said at the table with their girlfriends, who came to us for 100 years or not, they don't. no, i thought that this education was
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absolutely right, i learned this not by the fence of girls and boys, who also heard it somewhere, but firsthand and the lidka could give advice. and in general, it was just such a chic university. god bless every child. ah, it was like that. here in the sixties, it was such a time of freedom, uh, which, like now, we, too , well, in the nineties zero did not know what to do with this freedom both on sausage and on television and in the theater and everywhere did not know what to do with it. and so, when this warmed the sixties, everything was produced with their wives and husbands, they all had five romanovs and where to draw inspiration from something? yes, if they are in someone else's bed, e not with a new love and so on. tell me how your parents are, but mom served dad , of course, but dad, where did he draw
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inspiration from. how is it possible from one wife never and without changing, and not looking the other way, what he ate, if a musician, i don’t know, uh, there uh composer, so the actor will not torment his uh, soul this dual life, so that no one didn't know they love it there. where to draw? where to take dad’s nourishment, due to which yours, due to alla alone, she enveloped him so much and gave him so much that he didn’t need anything. and it happens. a lot at first. but i just think he was monogamous. here is a very rare copy. e in human life. he had his first wife, with whom he lived for a couple of months. it was the grandmother who introduced some of her front-line friends to her daughter, but he realized that this was absolutely not what he was looking for. he went to the casting institute, where he entered somewhere. e did not enter. yes, because it was he seemed to be not very talented, so he went to petrozavodsk, where
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he studied for one year at the historical one and returned and just got to that very time and to the very place where in a smoking room somewhere on the stairs kireeva smoked her cigarettes. well, everything, all the destinies have grown together like childhood, it seems that they experienced the same ones. and the same emotions suffered because of the divorce of their parents. i even have. tell me, how is it? well, everything, very, very much. yes, it seemed that alyonushka really called her from the first second of their acquaintance, but she was sister alyonushka and to take with ivanushka at first there were different names, but always diminutive caresses. dear, dear alyonushka, for the first time in 40 years i am sending you a letter from the second floor of our dacha to the first floor, which means that such a time has come. for a long time i thought to give a little to this , i still do not believe our common anniversary, and then i saw a three-volume book standing on a shelf. and
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i even laughed with joy and gratitude to you for the whole morning making bookmarks to those verses that already in the fifty-first year, one way or another, they relate to you there so a lot, which is even scary and joyful, so i made another big bookmark. at the end of the third volume you are tomorrow of almost everything that i have written. and here, the newest is the newest 40 long years and instantly years. you are my destiny, my eternal light is in your soul an eternity of height in the world and you exist in me. you, so without you knowing, for sure, i would not have lived these forty. i kiss your be, but it's impossible. this is impossible. this is impossible. it's just not a point, you know in a relationship it's an ellipsis an exclamation mark - that's all
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like a question mark. it's anything. he was already more and quite rarely went down. and here it is on the day of the circus of their wedding. he wrote. here is this letter, which is incredible, which even if my mother received, in a year it would be. just as amazing as 40 years after their life together. it's such a holiday. this is such a firework of relationships of feelings, that's why i say that they are, uh, amazing in this regard, such a mystical story, which is incredible to believe but friends. i i know it's not a writer. uh, why are you as straight as a sleeper, what is this and you say. you don't love too much either. these are all underwater. and alla went to him at the cemetery, smoked and talked to him. all the time and now some time passes and she finds a telegram, but in some miraculous way, sent by robert to his wife and
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lost in the papers. and here is the text. you remember well, everything is fine. don't worry. i love to be you. well, i really found it every day in any weather , i came to peredelkino this old the cemetery smoked out and said she went back. i think she's crazy. hmm crazy because it was so stubborn. this was a necessary movement for her , both physically and mentally, and my sister and i were very worried that something like that was happening there, then in one day everything seemed to be taken away by hand. she told you everything, and on the one hand, i am an unusually happy woman, because i lived in love, and on the other hand , i am unhappy, because robert is gone, and i cannot be with anyone. i can't look in the wrong direction. no, she was not looking in that direction. look, but she and when why look, she
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lacked. that's what happened with the father those relationships and those feelings there was no life without him. yes, absolutely nothing. and now , when robert is not on earth, i anchor myself for the fact that we spoke so little, but after all, we understood each other and it was wonderful to be silent with him without words. i do not want to say that we were saints, small temptations happened in life. we were still alive. i was blind, i didn’t see that robert needed me, with all the problems and complexes with you, and only me, and it seemed to me that around every corner the rival robert was not only a one-woman man, but also a very loyal knight every day. i heard. alka i love you. and me it hmm i can not say that i was surprised. it was a daily routine. i remember myself as a little girl, when i looked up at these two giants at my parents, who are embracing, or, uh, my father couldn’t get
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past my mother at all, they touched her, they didn’t kiss, they didn’t whisper something in her ear. and when i was surprised, i did not hear. they were very high under the ceiling that he whispers and then, when they lifted me up in their arms, and we stood like this three of us embracing, and i heard that he says those words that need to be said, only she is absolutely ordinary, but so necessary for every woman, probably , my alyonushka said there, dear, beloved. and of course, his eyes were wet, goosebumps were going down his skin and she said that she was jealous of robert yes , it is that she was a beauty, but a little overweight is disposed to be overweight, and it means that she competed with these whore girls who fidgety were not fashionable at that time, therefore, a fan of thick and thin, and to light
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jealousy did not torment. no, she's inside. she suffered herself, probably, but it was not so obvious; it was all the time with some kind of joke under the text from the custom. at the same time , robert, on the contrary, was embarrassed by his popularity. and well, now there is a hood, thank god, there used to be cap collars. that is, it was closed. he is not insane. he was tall. i, of course, he went all the time. somehow stooping due to the fact that here he stood out among the crowd. but when they flew in from across the border. i always recognized everything to have him by his height. and that was a big plus. katya, tell me how you were as a child in general. well, your dad is not coming, because, well, all the parents of odnoklassniki get up in the morning and go to work there. and your dad closed himself in the room and sat until once at the stadium. here, tell this story. really, do you understand? sometimes you want to remember something in life and nothing happens. and there are some things that fall somewhere in some close
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drawer and crawl out. you open it and that's it. time away from you it's in plain sight, really. i think that he is not going, because according to the stories of schoolchildren, their parents left and came to work in the evening. and well, somehow it was all alitno, and mine got up. grandmother made him an omelet or porridge and went to her office, locked it with a lock, and a typewriter began to knock there. ah, and it really seemed to me that i was unlucky, because it’s not a poison, and then there was a struggle with parasites. and it was somehow doubly embarrassing and it was very unpleasant to talk about it at school. but he was already extraordinarily popular. it was a surprise and sounded on the radio and no longer exists. no, at that time no songs were heard, no history at the stadium. i was already more understanding. i was
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probably 9 or 10 years old - this is the end of the sixties, when the poets occupied the stadiums, when people came to listen to them in the stadiums. it was, of course, an amazing thing, mass hysteria, you can imagine the degree of spirituality, e people. yes, they were going to, well , in the center they read their elements on this one, uh, and i know, and the crowds allied, remembered by heart ho specially by hand copied, because it was impossible to get. and yes , the girls made a volume with poems, in which they wrote down poems. i'm not even talking about the polytechnical ploys. and luzhniki is 14,000 people, and all 14,000 people. and so you gathered we gathered. yes, the first time my mother put me in the stands, and not in the stalls. here is this nizhny a there to the stands, but, because that's how
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we always sat backstage between there, well, how dad will speak. we could leave the service entrance right away. uh, you could have a car leave all these convenient things right away. and now i don’t know, i don’t remember, dad reads the elements, forgets the line, but reads it. eh, and there are no big screens. you do not understand what is happening, and he suddenly stammers, and i was so embarrassed for the first second, but then even through me. this buzz of hints and all 14,000 people suggested this line. i began to turn around and looked at no one had a book, they all knew by heart for me it was such a shock, what happiness you are, and i realized that it was no accident. actually there sits shut up. this is how it often happens, but it happens until the passion passes from the parents.
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uh, well, listen, many couples come together out of passion and out of love give birth to children in love and they are so absorbed with each other that they don’t care about children and children who grow up later yes , turning into adults, too, complexes that no one carries through the whole life is not a lack of parental love, that is, each other's adults. yes, but not for children. and how in general, where did dad scoop? where is it from? and then we will return to his childhood and to wartime . where did he have such a powerful reserve enough love? allah had enough for you ksyusha for your grandmothers, whom he also adored for guests for friends. where from where from where i don't know where from? well, i can’t say such a type of person, there probably isn’t such a type of person. no, it’s just that such a person, probably surprisingly unique and gifted to the gods, is now absolutely, understandable and they say that
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great things are seen at a distance, but here the distance was not needed, neither time nor distance. oh, it's real. weightlessness is clumsy even for a moment. everyone was fine. everyone was fine, only those who i went over a little with dinner, what do you perceive in the morning, what in the morning? well, yes, if every 45 minutes dawn and dig in. how much time you do not even say until you look at the clock man, immediately fell asleep. yes , great, i had a dream and woke up about the next click of this gagarin and at eight o'clock three hours and vigorously went to work in
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life, tried to be in time. the whole hall whistled us. it was a gesture of fear, there was never a podcast, paws all night with you. tell robert's parents divorced when how many boys were they they didn’t get divorced, in fact, father and mother went to the front, and father died right at the end of the war and when his father turned. he wandered all the time around the orphanages for all sorts, because his grandmother also died, who raised him. yes, yes, my grandmother was a military doctor at the front. and therefore actually. he was under state supervision at the age of 14. he received

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