good afternoon, they say that each of us has our own skeletons in the closet. but what to do with those who have these real skeletons, do not scare. olga tsibutsynina is in our studio today, she really wants to return her five children from foster families. hello olga. what's happened? help me get my five children back from foster care authorities, guardianship has been a problem. she was born in her back, as if

there were such two burrs, but they didn’t really show me where they were. right here on the back. i gave birth to her at night, in the morning i arrived in simferopol she was immediately taken to the intensive care unit for surgery. it turns out the nerve endings and after the operation was. well, we'll see if she can walk or not after the surgery. well, after rehabilitation we were allowed to go home. we arrived somewhere on thursday and on monday it was taken away. we are already 23 years old in january. now you are children in rights, in general i am limited in rights limited. yes, for all five children of girls, as they were taken away. we arrived pike perch with children.

let's go get the dog, because i already wanted to. leave morskoye completely as we went already attacks from all sides. petya for minors from school, that my children are being taken away from me? why how would hungry children run around unsupervised, i'm constantly a mess, as if in my apartment uh-huh yes, it's true. drinking drinking like that, but not like they say, like they say, no, they've never been ripped. no, this never happened, but at that moment you were already limited by the court. yes, we came to pike perch and wanted to pick up the dog from the apartment. the pediatrician came to me like that at home, but like i was not at home. of course, i didn't open the door. there was only a dog barking, and she called me, she said, there are children at your place. i tell the children something i can be, the

way we sudak are. she called the guardianship that we were not at home, right? and that's it, it went and went when they were taken away, and they have no fathers. well, as the children are all registered with me in the alinsky district, the merry village helps. and he never even saw eva eva sasha ulyana dad lives in the old crimea only uh sometimes helped him with mom, but why doesn’t he help because he doesn’t work? and vasilisa has a dad, we haven’t figured it out yet, but he wrote everything down, no. children where now the children are in different foster families, four in one, and vasilisa

in another; four children are with natalia; she does not allow me to see these at all, only for the eldest i can see it myself. what does she say? well, as they say. in order not to injure the psyche of the children, when she stopped letting me communicate with sasha, sasha began to beat you. very strong hands. she had bruises and she stuck it in. the psychiatric hospital is true that natalia wrote you various messages, including unpleasant. let's see one of them. you have good girls, it hurts them that their mother betrayed them. you can entertain yourself with any illusions, but the children are fine at home. this is the main thing, you want to return them to the barn to starve, the spider is more, and take care of the offspring, have pity on the girls, if it is available to you. leave

alone. what kind of betrayal is interesting. she says why does she say you left them? i don’t know, it means natalia that you know more than you tell us, so it’s time to call her and find out somehow girls live. natalya kirichenko in our studio good afternoon. hello, i'm natalya , here is an evil person who took olga's children . and how many children do you have eight in total now? how did you have olga's children ? i was told that it was in august 22, that the sea is preparing, it means limiting the rights of the mother, and in what condition did the children come to you from the children. uh, sick stomachs, pancreas bile, uh, scary energy, each had something in every

four. this is what happened to them after the rap center. e. well, they don't appear. the pancreas doesn't hurt. just once a month has passed since october can not appear. 10 years had stones in the gallbladder children were intimidated java was the first to ask if she needed to listen to her mother what her mother told her, uh, would her mother take her back, how would eva uh, well, i think that she suffered a little more than all the rest of all children. olga offended. why did she kill her? why did i hurt him more eva has a broken nose and a scar on her head. she herself told from her words that her mother hit her battery with her head and sewed it up. she generally lived with her grandmother in the old crimea. yes, i also communicate with my grandmother eva, and my grandmother is also not enthusiastic about how the children used to live with their mother and said that mom called repeatedly, and on the speakerphone. uh, i talked to

my grandmother so that my grandmother could hear the child crying, how she offends her. and there, according to the words of the child, she choked and drowned bill and said, yes, this is eve and even. sasha, who loves her mother very much, is attached to her most of all misses her mother. and i asked sasha. you mom did not beat, it turns out. you love her so much, you didn't hurt her. she says she beat, if she beat, so i beat, only on the pope it was like that. choked, why hit on the pope? it didn't break, but honestly, i don't know, i hear that. first time by accident. yes, i hear it. first time. let's watch the video of the children for now, and then we'll come back to you. everything was fine in the beginning. when grandparents were still alive, then everything was fine. she started drinking a lot. after the grandfather died. now, if i used to be

her grandfather somehow pinched her, somehow helped her well, then everything went the wrong way, where you needed to run away. well, it was. yes, sometimes i was kicked out of the house. i slept with my friends. here, not for some 40, she also had a hatred for eva and again because of eva sashul's father . that's because, when we lived with him, he beat her and knocked me down completely. that's most of all. it's just that mommy endured this broken one. her mother beat her head with something if the choice would be for cao to return with her mother or to stay with natasha natasha to her mother? mom is in big trouble

, not only when we swam in the center, i just i felt like i'm asking, no one needs me. when they refueled the center, she didn’t visit you, but i don’t know where they got it from and when it was. i also don’t know when the nose was a word when you were too drunk, they say that while my mother was sleeping drunk, they stole pasta from her, cooked it, she woke up and threw the pasta into the toilet to leave these hungry as a punishment. she told us here, until you left, that you hid her daughter in a psychiatric hospital. sasha had the most severe psychological trauma after she was taken from her mother. she defended her, when

it came to her mother, sasha cried. and at a certain moment, the child’s psyche broke down in the fact that she began to accuse herself of eating for her mother. ashamed. she takes the blame on herself. she began to bite her hands, she did not beat her hands, she bit them at night. she did not even realize it all, of course, she had to turn to a child psychiatrist. after she was in a hospital in simferopol, we have a very good planing hospital for children, she came in a different person, of course, so cheerful, cheerful more open threatened you someday that she would simply steal your children, and the line she well sent messages on the phone that she would steal sasha and ulya. uh, he'll be given to an orphanage. alina will be slaughtered. there is not even such a message when olya alina found out that you turned to the program to return your children for help. she

cried, you know? i wonder how you live with the girls? let's get a look. at this table there is my family volodya this is the very first child who in 2018 yes came to our family. this is my nephew, it all started with him, and then on may 26 last year they appeared. these are the three wonderful children of milan, she was eight months old then now she is a year and a half and six. nikita is 5 years old. igor is the guys from yalta , two brothers and a sister. here are our girls, sisters , girls, we went to dances. the three of them, they sing. eva and ulyana have expressed

a desire to learn chinese. they teach us chinese. alina, our graduate this year, is finishing the eleventh grade . let's get ready for the exams in a sanatorium they put on there, here, either you lie there, you just get high and relax, of course there are difficulties. what when you say who will wash the dishes? no, they don't say that, they look at each other, yes, and then, uh, maybe eva why did i and the dishes appear like that? well, i just teach them to negotiate, so i say, learn to negotiate.

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i'm sorry, you found out that the children are in a rehabilitation center, and i'm the godmother, who used to come every year for her birthday, who's dirty she's dirty. i never warned that i was coming. she always had a full refrigerator. the children were always fed, they were always clean and whom she beat, whom she beat. my daughter went after school after school came she does not understand it. i can't understand. why are you lying? i understand that everything will be restored. yes , because all the words that were said here. it was the guardianship that made that decision, and then the court decided well the court authorities. yet again here, moreover, how did she find out on the second day that they were in the clinic. call back, as i understand my friend. why should they tell you about it? and why should she? and who are you? i am the godmother of the children. and that this is documented somewhere, this is some kind of official

status. you are nobody, according to the law, from you there was a statement in the guardianship authorities that you wanted to take these children into custody . no, this is it, please. where would you like to take your children? do we have an old house in crimea? what did you do? yes, to take more children so far nothing, because 7 months old children are already living god knows what about the fact that they can be installed. i found out about this quite recently, and you heard the girls, and the girls what they say, that she beat them and i’m actually shocked , because my daughter is alina’s classmate, they have been friends since the first grade. and in general, i didn’t even hear from the fact that they had to come to school to complain about their mother, whom i will tell you that girlfriends are girlfriends there or something else. and many children become isolated to many children ashamed. to tell about what their mother beats at home, let's see, and you will see what the children

think about their lives now. natasha makes me feel comfortable, because i don't really like to be there for a long time with people. i can just go to the room and no one will be there. and they won't tell me. come back and all that. they just give me time to sit there, and also we constantly watch movies together comfortably, no one screams, everything is cool. it's good with us, when we always watch movies in the evenings, we take it there, she just did bunch of kitchen. here are those cheese balls. i would buy it and, in short, every day we take memory in the evenings and eat. i like this one that there is free space. you can just go for a walk. natasha does not

offend us. she treats us well, respectful. we also like to live with her, because she is kind and allows us to buy all sorts of games, uh, to play well, kind, yes. children who lie to the camera of channel one would never say strict but kind 10 rubles. whose children had plenty of food. would never say what they're watching tv and at the same time eat plenty of yogurt and cheese balls, they would never have said this. do you understand that you are now justifying the monster i know 12 years old, how many children does she have 12 years old, how many children? at the

moment, how many are six new year's, because this is the secret that olga hides? what happened to another child? do you know that she killed the child and kept them in the basement for 3 weeks, you saw the murder, i was understood here, and you saw how she kills her or what, why can you keep the child in the basement for 3 weeks? you saw how she kills him all. i'm mad now, stop stop. you don't have to make yourself look like an idiot. i do not build an idiot was a consequence. there is a court decision to sit here asking questions. you have seen how to kill. what happened in september of that year? in the general chat

of the marine, a message was received that olga was missing, a request and help to find her, or or anyone who knows about her whereabouts to report. at first we searched for her with the whole village. eh, then it turned out that the pediatrician, when he came to her, and they were looking for a little girl, ilona , ​​eight months old, my god. so that's why a pediator came, she claimed that the father had a child? uh, as if the father of the child was not found. he reported to the police that the child was missing. we also began to look for this baby. after that, as if we found him in the basement of the apartment building where she lived, olga is true. i don't hide it. i was scared, then at that moment, and what happened to the child, when i woke up in the morning, she was no longer breathing and lay

cold with her eyes open, and the cause of death was the child. what i do not know after death is done. an autopsy set cause death mother of four children at that time. yes , she sees the body of the child, as she speaks in the crib and instead of calling. to the police in an ambulance anywhere. yes, she is frightened of something and hides the body of a child in a box in the basement. the only thing you can be afraid of is that it will establish the cause of death, which is violent. that's what you can be afraid of was you saw no? i don’t know if there was a consequence , there was a 109 forensic diagnosis, the cause of death was not established, and due to pronounced putrefactive changes in the tissues and organs of the corpse , hemorrhage into the soft tissues, right temporal

and left zygomatic regions of the anterior surface of the chest and abdomen into the soft tissues of the head in the frontal region on the left of the occipital region. left. she had back problems. and when she sat down or in a table for a table for feeding or in a walker. i always tied her like this, which made you hide the body of the child in the basement and then pretend to be a victim when stalin threatens me from all sides guardianship. it was you who woke up and the child is not alive, no one threatened. nobody knows yet. they began to tell me guardianship and all the rest that my children will be taken away if the child died himself , what do you have to do with sudden infant mortality , there is such a child died before the year, an ambulance was called , an autopsy showed. what is the reason. honestly, i was scared natasha and the children know about it. i had to tell them myself

that their sister had died, because, uh, my mother was hiding seized, they had already been confiscated. after they found the body of the child up to this point, they were with their mother going to school. mom pretended that everything was fine, that is, the children woke up in the morning, she took them to school wrapped the body of the child in a bag , lowered it, hid it in the basement and then went to the store , bought beer, and everything was as if nothing had happened when they were in the rap center. uh, there was a psychologist. i asked please. talk to the children so that they come to a foster family already with the knowledge that the child has died, the city is small about this. anyway, someone will tell you. um, they can, of course, you knew that we would have an evening about this on the program one way or another. right. well, at least because you showed us the place where you hid your daughter's body, right? i saw that

daughter died. i covered her. well, how to say that the children do not see, do not be afraid. i sent them to school, then wrapped it up and brought it here and called, there was no one on the street. here is your basement. i hid them here. only i have the keys i have more and more no one. well, i was scared i had. well, how to say attacked by guardianship from school. from everyone began to put pressure. this situation just happened.

olga apparently realized that channel one would not return her children, so she decided to leave the studio. i don't know if she'll come back or not, but she was she was so frightened that she didn’t understand what to do that she turned to her relative to help her hide the disappearance of ilona with the investigator. she was and she ran out with the car. here, near the gate, it’s quiet for me , please tell me that your zhenya is mine, but i’ll explain everything to you later. here she is together earlier and then this man says, we have been looking for my child for almost a month, she is mixing like this for us, speaking in crimea she said that the child is with you. at first , yes, i wanted to help you on your way when we went there to see my mother-in-law. my children were with a man. i realized that god forbid something happened to the child. i'll go for complicity. well, in general,

we arrived there and went only to the police. i tell her, what i'm talking about, i want to tell the truth, her child is not here, they are here. they are adult children. i just say my everything and left and left, and then his guests found out that it turns out to be a child. killed everything she does. it's all purposefully well-planned sentence. yes, it's really soft. but i want to understand, but olga has always been like that mamai no, i would not say that everything must have begun. after, when he died, dad, because somehow dad held her, maybe in his hands. and after he died about two years ago yes, the third year. olya told you personally when he died, dad, olya behave normally, they will take away your children, all the neighbors told you that they would take away your children. what kind of lifestyle do you always have a bottle of beer, we helped you. i gave you things child. what did you do with it, what did you wash them, then these things. i clean you

gave to your children. the neighbors tell me, don’t give it to her anymore, she slanders them, and then you threw away all the things, and she can return to where it all happened. and now she can't go back. she has a tenant. there you have kolya now lives there. well, yes, he makes repairs there, and he also makes repairs for himself. she took out the trash for three days. he things of september. neighbors will live there. as no , life will be with her if she returns. the neighbors always treated her, they always helped to death and until death and now we all communicate with each other, we all communicate. she was hiding, she came at night, everyone knew her, but no one killed her or scolded her. absolutely nothing to her, she hid the corpse of her child for three weeks in the basement in the basement , even for this neighbors. they are not ready to lynch her. there is no one there to do it there , grannies who would also go and help clean up just like your neighbors marina and

everyone else helped you clean up. it was like that once, marina came to me. ol you don't let anyone in. no. i don't let anyone in. i don't want to communicate with anyone. i want listen to the girls, who, of course, i remember and the deceased sister ilona, ​​let's listen to what they say. she didn't love, because she was the daughter of a bone, and her bones had hatred. she, well, it beat her there, if she screamed, she could take her to another room in a wheelchair. that's basically it, well, we did it.

mom said that she left kostya, then it all started in the hospital. they wrote to me that i am a murderer that i killed. sasha was the little girl's nanny most of all they cared about and the hardest thing was her death, so it was also the cause of her nightmares that she could not sleep, that at night she blamed herself and bit her hands, as if she had to, my god. i'm just bad, it's very scary

scary. let's see how she visits her daughter's grave, how she behaves. here lies my point ilonochka seriously admitted such a lack, when she lay smiling. and she didn’t say mom, dad, when the first mog said. honestly

heartbroken mother, and you say that she was not even at the funeral. yes, i don't know for some reason, but she was not at the funeral, what i want to say is that before a polygraph an assessment of a person’s condition is made. in general, her condition can be assessed as sane questions that were asked about ilona of the deceased girl. they don't trigger the stress responses in her that a, well, adequate mother should have, most likely she was quite drunk, possibly leaving the baby for an extended period. here in this bed. it is possible that the child fell several times a clear reaction, so that she intends to beat. i didn't get it. to be honest. i was frightened, but i was frightened and does not beat with the

reactions that we get on the polygraph. that's bullshit. that's bullshit. and most likely, most likely. here, in my opinion, was the motive yes to hide the child, either the motive, or the continuation of the inadequate. behavior towards all your children. she really physically affected them . bill's word can be applied, but she does not remember how and whom she beat, because a lot happened while in a state of intoxication. i need space for each other the only one.

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the home of lena bezh was destroyed in march 22 by a woman with four children. i had to wander around other people's apartments and spend the night on the street after how we knew my house had burned down. we looked for shelter and found a dilapidated bus. what was i to do? i have four children, they cry, they want to eat, they want to sleep. every second the planes landed. it all fell off, lord help save the children.

a man passed by on the bus and saw that i was with children and suggested that i speak, there is an apartment there. well, the windows are whole and that's it. there was hopelessness left. i think it's better than the bus. i'm not used to people helping somehow, because i don't know where we were men this hello arthur hello. how old are you 13 adults katya how old are you eight? what are all adults? you are beautiful. great, and this is alice for a year and a half. oh, what all the suns are, in general, we have already been living here for half a year, already living on bird's rights. well until they get kicked out, what do you like

to do play draw now draw. what are you drawing? oh, what a beauty, is it something of a butterfly or not a blueberry. and you arthur what do you do? what do you draw arthur or not? or only on the phone? and you read books, and what about lisa? all go and mom and pee. this lisa said that arthur loves katya and loves alice until she is 3 years old. somehow i didn’t pay attention, but i think in the kindergarten you can talk, you definitely need a doctor to make a specific diagnosis for you here. let's sign you up with a neurologist so that he can already see what exactly the speech disorder is connected with, but you know elina. i think

that it's even better than just taking liza to a neurologist, it's better to show all the children at once. mom, you have wonderful children, but it is necessary to study, drawing must be developed and books must be read. see i had two lives one before the war, and now she is never like that to me again, and then i was before the war. i would have a house there, i would have a scooter. it was a gift from his dad for his birthday. oh, we survived. we are horror. that's probably, they support me here for the fact that we were all here together with you, so i want to see. how do you live? yes, you can, but these are not our things, these are

the master's things. and your things, only the documents i managed to grab, we live to follow other people's things. we, too, would have me and, in my opinion, with photographs, but they are all of them, probably the daughter of the owners, in which there are toys here, i i'm playing them for now. here is the kitchen here we eat, someone alice is here mom, the bitch will be. well, as he is washing, the car is still driving. yes, it works , no, it doesn't work. it's also a washing machine. this is also a household, but it is not working, so how do you cope and for four children, of course, wash by hand or well, we will bring a washing machine. no need to cry. we raise hooray the third machine in your house. only working already. we brought, we can bring many more books

so that the children develop, but we do not have children for you children should not grow up without education and it is your responsibility to ensure that these children grow up as human beings. thanks everyone let's go get involved if you want to help or know someone who needs help, please contact us at the editorial office. i want to be helped to deprive my mother of parental rights, i will never forgive you for this. keep well. how can i

communicate with a stranger? this is dad. and you spread your filthy tongue. you told me yourself that you thought so. i have nothing against alena communicating with you. big game i'm vyacheslav nikonov live good evening