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you're heartbroken enough to wallow. get up get up get up andrey never wrote poetry. there is only one salty poet on his sechip. where the poem was originally someone performs all sorts of songs? well, i'm not so serious about this, although i think that pushkin would also write songs. i think and write music to ready-made poems. in general, it is quite difficult. i mean that you must enter into that rhythm and into those musical, as it were , rhythmic foundations of the language that the poet felt at that moment when he wrote, that's why i wrote here 's real nostalgia, it was andrey's favorite song and it seems to me, really, because it turned out so organically.
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in a poem of nostalgia for real on the one hand it is very catchy - it is such. here. e, well, memorable, yes, and right there it makes you think not about the past of nostalgia, is nostalgia really, that is , really used in a different, as it were, meaning? oh no, today's time. how about real life. yes, andrei generally had, as it were, two priorities in life. it is his creation. and everything that happens around creativity, and here are the people who are important for his
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work, and, uh, and my mother, that is, i was of little interest to him, let's say, when i realized that he was very famous. and i saw that some guys, some comrades there, communicate with me. here, as it were, through this prism, perhaps they want to be friends with me there, because , uh, i have a relationship with voznesensky for me . it is very important that i become a personality in them in these relationships and outside, as if i were this closeness happy man, first, he was happy in the family. zoya, lenya was nearby and he really, as it were, had a real deep relationship. the most worthy in the family, which in general, happiness, this does not always happen, but in parallel. he's been here all his life, however, and therefore
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never hypocritical. he always wrote honestly. and it also gives a certain satisfaction inside a person. happiness, i don’t know what to call it, when you have the opportunity all your life to do what you love, because you want to. and it turns out to be worth it. here he is as a poet. he paved the way for freedom why very beautiful will be. andrei was very ill in recent years. at first he lost his voice saying, well, it was not audible. and so he called me, for example, when it was just painful, but i don’t understand what he was saying, yes, that is, some kind of dialogue was very difficult. and well, when well , it got worse and worse, of course, and this is the year two thousand and ten, may 12,
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birthday. well, i think go to congratulate him and the evil one says come. well, here i am. and i found this picture, and andrei was sitting completely dry and completely frozen like a statue. uh. he couldn't, he couldn't even turn his head a little bit. now there was no voice at all. but it was even better. i mean, i talked to him. and he answered his eyes. this is the house where andrei voznesensky and zoya boguslavskaya lived together for almost half a century. andrei andreevich always said that it was here that it was easiest for him to work and breathe. today, peredelkino has turned into a large modern village, but here in this
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house, time seems to have frozen zoya borisovna and memories are sacredly kept in the house made two of his portraits. now it's coming. i lived with him, 46 years, guys. brother, 46 years old , almost 50, i must say that andryushka and i lived very friendly. we had 240 it doesn't even make sense not to come back, but he has sissy left on this topic. probably we went song leontiev probably we went crazy. you are my brother. i am your enemy, the garden turned dark to see the white of the day. what are you so why are you so there is a heart,
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which one did you find? that was his song, reflecting the moment of our only quarrel. she was very deep. and so, then he almost went umbrella. andrey andreevich was seriously ill, he was ill, he had parkinson's parable, he had why he never recognized this diagnosis, that he had an atypical one, because he never
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had a tremor in his voice, pain in the spine, and it hurt, slowed down my knees, and my stomach this vertebra warmed him. it would seem easier for him, and for hours we sat like that. and so he died, he died on my knees, but this is a very difficult topic for me to say in two sentences, when he was gone, life itself was gone. i stopped loving what i loved life is gone. don't disappear, don't disappear. in to me you are forever in me you escape for what half an hour you will return, you again in a thousand
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hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov, this is a special edition of the podcast space stories. today i have an amazing guest at my space station, this is an actor with whom i can speak the same professional language of space andrey merzlitin. today we will talk about cinema and space. let's have fun. i have a first question. i know that i am a graduate of a space engineering technician. i guessed why they called? this is the one that is located in korolev not far from the energy yes tell us how you chose this particular educational institution. and in what specialty did you graduate anton nikolayevich in the first place turn, of course, i can say that the choice yes, just anton, well, you’re not just, and i mean that the election, as such
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, was the most elite educational institution in our city, then it was called the city of kaliningrad of moscow areas. well, one of the big signs. educational institutions had a technique in space engineering , so when i finished school i directed my steps there in an attempt to try to enter, because it seemed to give some kind of such a basis for the future, and only then we began to open up for the technical features of the fact that this is a technical school at the mission control center at e , an energy plant, where spaceships are produced, and at first it was, of course, the desire to simply get a good education, but a specialist. what kind of radio engineering for the sake of engineering space engineering by chemical means space is absolutely pure water, because the one who has ever plunged into the world. where does it mean that the electric current dictates everything
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, understands that either you believe in it, or you believe in it never again, it's like some people with religion. so with. e. here i have not seen it, i do not believe it, until the fingers are in the socket. not sonya will quickly believe that the current exists here as well. and what besides existence. he is there here he is with her he accumulates there. here it condenses, who what? why not like that there turns out to be such complex mechanisms. and so we went through all this in practice. this is directly so that in the second year. we sign such secret documents. we had such a top secret block by, as we called only a separate block where we stood already cut parts of the spacecraft, on which we have already directly proceeded to the study. how is it built? what does it basically consist of? and the process
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of production of the rocket itself takes place, as it flies not only the antennas of the bloggers of the radio, but it is the entire composition of the rocket of the spacecraft, it also consists of ours. here are our scientists. of course, we were surprised and conquered, but the cosmos still remains a little beyond the limit. because it’s already lying, uh, some parts of the spaceship that have already flown away, but still it’s was that's how the theater had the opportunity to look behind the scenes. it was besides being curiously interesting, all the more so the curiosity of any e-student entrant. you should know anton that the first question that interests everyone. it was a sinful thing for me to think about it. we were all interested in the decision in any way where he is there. he sleeps how he works. what are their problems, right? yes, we are the first to arrive. and where is all this space, or does he need it. yes,
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yes, two violet systems. we ask, in principle, yes, well, here we are moving forward, later, of course, but it all became more serious and unconditional. when i was finishing the technique of building a space machine. unfortunately, this was the ninety-second year. it was the era when after i collapse. the soviet union collapsed and the space industry, and in the tutelage itself, because we were proud at this moment, when we learned an unprecedented event in the world happened, we launched e, energy buran and it was not just successful. he also landed well. it was a very important step, such, as it were, even to me now modern man understands that both geopolitical and natural and scientific breakthrough forward. and on this high note , all this just collapses, and no one needs us. and even the same npo energy plant where my mother worked as an accountant.
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where was the mission control center, which the whole country was watching these screens and now showing movies how smart, educated people are sitting and watching how some other satellite or spaceship is moving here, it was right across the road. we had one dining room nearby, and we could all see each other, only we did not have access. yes, and that's how it ended. uh, so this is the era well diploma. uh, got a diploma. yes, new times have begun. i, as it were, i think on them, maybe it’s not worth knowing everything even in the nineties and with all the pluses and minuses, of which there were more, but nonetheless. it was my youth and i saw only good ones went to college. he received a higher economic education in the ninety-first year. yes, this is a new buzzword anton in the ninety-second year, my fate also turned around. i was a cadet of the chernigov school. i was going. well, to become a military fighter pilot, and in the ninetieth year in february
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they called the whole school, set up cadets for themselves and said, so either take the ukrainian oath, or get ready for expulsion. we are expelling you. here are the documents for you. wherever you want, you go, moved to volgograd, arrived there, this kachansk school. everything changed to the same course, in the same rank for the same aircraft, immediately narrowly , the same thing is easier. i sometimes passed the exam or tests before and went on flights, thanks to this the distinction will end immediately after the school arrived in moscow. i was sent to moscow to the academy and run there. but here's how the detachment get into space, and before it was e, the sets were closed. it was either you were writing statements and yes, either that's just uh, well, how are you doing these workers. eh, exactly. uh, space industry. well then they are a luxury. well, just kosmos, that is, those who work at the enterprises are engineers, and they went to the cosmonaut detachment, it was he who was separately the detachment of the cosmos. training center - this is a military organization there from pilots and if not pilots,
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then, according to the military program, they were not preparing for energy either. what kind of red energy is there at the enterprise in korolev, they had their own detachment. ah, civilians. uh, engineers, astronauts also had, uh, detachment. this is wfp. this is the institute of biomedical problems. there biology doctors. well, there were always a few of them, there were only 1-2 people, and in principle there were, but not a single one was given to us as a candidate. this russian temporary science was some kind of narrow specialty. uh, well, i was a pilot, a tactical aviation fighter after the academy was decommissioned and design and aircraft testing. then, already at the academy, a candidate of sciences, technical, defended himself this way, before you already join the detachments. how much time has passed in the detachment per month already with an exact plan for when you will fly? how much has passed since the ninetieth year since the ninety-second i was 2003, which means 11 years 11 years, that is, the nineties well successfully
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cut in half it’s all to do, of course, it ’s tempting to leave the army, because well, many, when here in moscow, uh, guys they left and opened, there is a business and that's it. rest. yes, but i understood that i survived in nineties and is not afraid. it seemed to me that it was too late for me to continue studying, and someday this space flew away. only well, this acting i'm in africa and how did it happen oh, it's crazy too. well, i kind of have a long story there, but i looked at vgik and found out that such a profession exists and i was left in some kind of these circles. no, this is already being an adult. why won't the actor help then too? or do i apologize that the secret substitution is the same as no worse than the cosmonaut, who are these people, where do they live? and how they get there is basically the same. i thought you wanted to be an astronaut. do you want to be an actor somehow so they recruited on the street. we still have to be a talent, such a wife. here is talent from my father charisma if you are talking about space. i
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heard this many times as a child, and then recently i asked my father again. being in the army, he repeatedly passed the so-called tests for the selection of fighter pilots. and the so-called cosmonaut squad in the future. yes, and he says, i say passed one test. i speak first didn't even understand. why such noise was impressed. they say they did not understand, they drove him away again. these, when they become attached to bind, so they twist the pulse right there. it costs how much it doesn't rise any no plugging it all up to do it for the third time. then they took him somewhere else and they told him that you want to say all the data for now. what for and he went. he says berries would have told me, it just was 100% prevented one education of seven classes. he says, as always will be. well, that's what i'm saying class, the village graduated lacked education. no longer in the army. how about before the turn, who is in the army, most likely, it would not be so, but it could probably, but it was already in
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the army. she was to make a decision of the commission, she did not let me in. so maybe it would be a surname. here the space space would be, maybe dad would fly into space, well, thank god how it happened. we continue our conversation with actor andrey merzlikin and i , anton shkaplerov, agreed, you looked at vgik, like passing by, passed by, looked in liked to study. here, and there you already like the profession correctly, in fact, it's like taking a chance, you have to go there. i even have the courage to have. here. by the way, i did not risk and did not pass. now the host is not i say did not pass. i still don’t know how, by the way, the presenters on channel one are leading. probably this is the first channel we will prompt, for sure. i say, i, uh, to become an actor, well, since the film is already on the 20th, uh, we will go to see all the preparations for the week. i didn't pass. he
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didn’t even look into such castes, into any i didn’t even think about acting at all, in general, when you i star in a film, well, it’s artistic, of course. they shoot some documentaries about space there. the astronaut comes with something with him a couple of questions and that's all in himself. i knew getting into the filming of a movie was a challenge. it had to be done. i would probably do that. by the way, uh, the director said that there was no need for a space technical school. no, it will be many more pictures, in short, foam, but i’m here for me. i don’t know. i’m an actor from vgik graduated from the space engineering. i think there should be some role in this film. well, there must be at least an episode somehow, so that in kaliningrad they say, well, andrey has reached the pinnacle of his creative career. well, by the way, in the film , there are a lot of ordinary people playing. well , like me, i play myself as an astronaut, there is a crew commander in space, and in the film our specialists play a training center
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, doctors play doctors, instructors play. that is, they are themselves everything now. i'm ordering. i have no more, everything is now the very heart of him is now another dream. he said he i really wanted to go out into outer space. before that, of course, it happened and tried to open everything. he kept raising everyone there whom he knew from all sides, but they didn’t give it, of course, this is hard dangerous work. and he has further, he says, maybe. mousse to fly longer so that there is more time to shoot, that is , well, 10 days were filmed from 12, of course, not enough, and you watch a movie about space , of course, there are loved and famous. yes, not fantastic, which pretend to be close to a real event, there are some that are not so much. well we have it the time of the first. yes, this is about leonov, this is gagarin . yes, this is gagarin. this is salute seven. here klimt removed. uh, well, from our uh hollywood stages
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of apollo 13 armageddon, i like it, because he was filmed a lot in us, and where nu was training. i knew all these machines, all these buildings. well, comedic, of course. well, just wondering, there is something close to how, well, really experiencing. a man in space. so it is, for example, as the film shows. i don’t know the world, there are some modern ones in general. uh, computer talked. the astronaut of the neural network is all business. this is what artificial intelligence is. smoothly, we are approaching him, of course, not far off. yes, it will be so soon, and it will be, and he will fly and help. the most important. it just amazes me when a movie shows in outer space, it shows so many objects flying around. the way it is. yes, miss is called space debris. if i think such a volume, it's scary. i think if we are already so on the garbage or in space the topic of space debris. but you
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you know, yes, uh, old satellites that are no longer in control, that are getting closer to the earth with each orbit. is it really already in such a volume of the extreme stage of the rocket. naturally, there are more and more of them and that's what they call garbage. the most important thing is that the orbits of these e space objects that do not intersect on the press. it is calculated every mine from 4 cm any object that revolves around the earth has its own number. we track nasa also tracks and calculates orbits. well, computers are all this, of course, as soon as, well, we have a common space station and once there's a threat, then, well, the simplest thing. we just accelerate the station due to this. yes, we raise the orbit well, this garbage flies under us and, god forbid , completely burns out its dense atmosphere. in fact, it's so interesting, in theory i have an interview. and i would have me so it's all that's usually an actor. just say anecdotal, tell
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me, i got funny cases, this and for some reason it is necessary to talk about the acting profession so that it is, but i want to ask, astronauts in general are somehow non-cellular cases, or it's always very only serious. no, well, without humor, of course, it was hard. we fly for half a year, so, of course, there are jokes and jokes we try. this is also a collective species, as they say. well, maybe not every moment. well, especially when we get together. we have traditional friday, we get together on saturday. we are going to. well, on one e, we have, as it were, two dining rooms, two kitchens. and what about a russian canteen or a company? no? it's just a place to eat at some long table name. if in russian segment we are going, for example, on friday. we're just summing up, telling, who has any news, well, just in the evening people are going to sweets, they get something there for themselves, diluted with tea juices, this is, we sit and chat. in general, we are discussing, and the next day on saturday we have to watch the film, moreover, here we are, according to tradition, each in
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turn to choose the film that he likes now it is very easy to find subtitles. we came russian films those english, or vice versa, the whole film to find russian subtitles put all this on a computer quickly, and we have, uh, a screen that moves . uh, that is, not even a tablet screen is stretched so large somewhere strong. here. yes, there is, uh, a projector. all we put sound there are speakers everything and sit watching. fine. what day is lost? in general, it is interesting that you forget that you are in space, that the first day is like this. i think, probably, they would have sat there and it would have been possible to sit for 30-6 hours to consider this time, two flew by. this is what you can watch all the time. if there is e time, of course you, and it doesn't matter. it's a very day always beautiful in the window. i think it was so interesting. no, look at the ground. well, of course, the most interesting thing is the earth, because it's always a different angle of the sun. hmm, and the cloudy
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season was definitely filmed. this is the favorite. uh, any cosmon's hobby when they ask what you do is the most interesting. well, what your free time does , no one will tell you exactly what to play computer games. maybe you can say something. well, sometimes he reads. well, there are very few of them, because not because we do not like to read, on the contrary, we love to read, we are interested, because it is a pity to waste time in space. yes, then when you return, but take a photo through it already. well, you won't do it. so look, i suggest you play with me. uh, one fun game in four flights. i took, well, hundreds of thousands of photographs of our life, different objects, and i prepared several pictures that i took, but i suggest that you look and determine if it could be a city , it could be a river, a mountain, and so on, but i have no experience to guess what you see and further we are certainly thieves, yet. i see so
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mountains and snowy peaks. and uh, does this lake stand out or is it obvious? yes, andrei was definitely here , was it kamchatka or what? no, no, i don't get it. i can't recognize the outlines of the lake. well, i think that now it is one of the most friendly soviet republics to us now. there was built something to say. this is armenia yes, this is lake sevan, i guessed it the first time. this is a mountain. uh, i was straight too, huh? was also. it only sees from afar. he made quite a difference to his journey. this remember, yes, of course, 3 days, but these were 3 days , you know, how you got it back and as if you weren’t only in the photographs, you can consider it came 3 days in yerevan , uh, in general, this is not enough in armenia. but although i
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traveled a lot. i didn't sit still. and of course, i was and traveled around the lake, but it's all touristy, as they are called detours, especially since you don't climb from above. you move a lot of people a lot of people. it is in space that you are alone well, and you lend yourself to contemplation. and here it seems that i took a picture here. snapped here. so took a picture and went on okay? let's go further, but wait, it's such a famous resort. this is an island in the greek sea. and yes, yes, yes. yes, i liked it, yes, in cyprus i liked it, but i also didn’t take off from above, i didn’t look at the copters . even they have on the flag or not some, it seems, half the same. i saw photographs of the winter near cyprus, they are no different from our snowy siberia. this
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struck me a lot, that is, literally the same snow pines in these and ski resorts. i say where she cyprus believe him until that's in i didn’t break through the internet, i was surprised that this is true? well, what a great next one. yeah well, you got me on top of course, that's where i have to guess. what is it, twisted old man is it really. moscow that's right, exactly need moscow and now i turned around, the kremlin, wait, not like that. we just see the sea river. here , by the way, well, yes, if this is sheremetyevo, then this is just the north west, and then korolev would show the pen correctly, i would have shown korolev earlier, it was very remote. it seemed to me that i was driving from some distant place near moscow in moscow it now adjoins directly in general and, uh, they built such an overpass, right?
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well, if so, by the type of rage, it seems to me that here you are approaching a very far way to go along yaroslavka. yes? here, yes, yes , mytishchi korolev adjoins directly to moscow, soon it will become new moscow. i found out here, and one more. and i wanted to talk about it, so to speak about the contours of moscow. yes, this is the bay. this is sevastopol how so quickly, but sevastopol i just recognize, because it is a recognizable bay. yes, and i spent the whole summer in it before entering vgik. e. i lived, you know how the ferry has moved. uh, on the ferry over here on the north side. yes? and here , too, such a hill is a mountain, and i have always contemplated and, of course, recognizing the hill of an object. yes, this is home. yes, yes, here is balaklava
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bay beautifully. it was i who was born, it was balaklava who grew up, because my father is a submariner. well, yes, i played the captain of a submarine, but only from the northern fleet in the city of severomorsk murmansk and this planet can be invented, you can call the first channel. well, they chased me, i was not ready for this. how is he you what's the name remember sleep badly helps to restore memory, reduce fatigue and improve now i will not forget. 170 percent in popular categories when shopping at your favorite stores get any tinkoff card participates at 28 mayak up to
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crew. well imagined, like who? well, i looked from my own point of view. what should it be or what? maybe i'm not like you, but there should be a performance, yes, he always speaks easier to them. no , it's not the same phrase. here is the text. why didn't you read the text? i say, and that there are very 4 lines, these four lines, i will definitely insert my own word or the wrong intonation. here we are again negotiating negotiations. maybe there are some life hacks, there life hack is only one experience experience, full trust the director and only trust and humble yourself humble repeating takes to make stopping easier. he was just trying to explain that when there is even the slightest hint that we are trying to play it is visible and even more magnified in the picture. that's what we call cinema on film, so we play anyway, but this moment of the game needs to be pressed as much as possible. how can you be more assigned
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to the role in the organics. and well, how to play? this is very difficult to play, for example, such a tragic moment, but something is not tears. and you're in a good mood. you're doing great. you are now seriously telling you your people the drama of the simplest first primitive. that's when you have some psychological problems inside. and you need to smile so that it is visible in the eyes of a smile. yes, this is the easiest to win the simplest melodrama drama tragedy. here it grows further, and comedy is the highest level. and if you want to find the point where you're funny and you're in control. this is aerobatics. this is the most complex orbit and every actor owns it. skill and skill without stirring yes therefore, there are tragicomic actors, oh , whom we certainly respect, and the same yuri nikulin had an unconditional powerful
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dramatic talent, but the level of internal clowning that he possessed was conscious. he, of course, is the highest of any praises there. well, that is, you still need experience. yes experience. yes , of course, but more than that , you are more likely to become an actor because you have a lot of human experience. what pushed. for example, our beloved actor, on whom we grow up, lies in the area of \u200b\u200bthe fact that their personal experience is based, because that most of them there are veterans of the great patriotic war. they have a powerful dramatic and material and life path, which called them to talk about people with some kind of complex human experience. well, they could play these complex people of characters, but they didn’t hold a modern asset, which by and large is heavier than a spoon, and this does not condemn. you can't condemn him. for this, he had such a life for him because the phone was stolen, probably the biggest drama there was. well, basically, and here's a man
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trying to enter the world of classical drama with murders and tragedies with turning points and the word of the century, crying, there is no onion there. this is the same humor. well, in his nose there is an asterisk for you and you will cry somewhere. well, no, it won't help that you need to remember some kind of life story, a tragic face resembling. do you understand? imagine that your apartment burned down. i once saw such an actor sitting, who, as i understand it, can imagine that he had her. in the frame was the most stupid expression on his face, because he hasn't already burned out, and sometimes there is some very simple one behind the most tragic shots. work inside the soul of a person who understands that a person is not so
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difficult. it is complexly arranged, but with years of experience, you can get through to it. and you can use it with yourself as a musical instrument, it becomes like a discovery. and if you discover it happens, then it's very easy to use it in my life, it happened. i had my first role in my life. she was immediately so tragic and did not demand this understanding. i prepared for these prices prepared. i have been listening to a lot of music so special. i mean, i was set. i've been waiting for this change. i was ready in advance and therefore, so to speak, the camera of the motor issued immediately from the first take the director did. well, let's make the second one just in case, because i'm not used to the fact that all of a sudden the film was shot all of a sudden. there's some kind of marriage or something, well, i was loaded, but the business is one day it becomes just your tool. maybe even say the craft depends.
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