ice probably a frenchwoman during a date in this outbuilding, it seems to me that it was something in the spirit. i will go. and you girls figure it out yourself, and then he comes, and there such a thing could be like that. you are an excellent investigator. yes, indeed, he took naryshkin to his wing. and then, of course, such a scene in the wing could happen, and in general, the way it was transmitted. contemporaries da naryshkin somehow participated in this, and uh, it seems to me, confirming in this way. and the fact that she named her daughter after her rival. that's for me guilt seems to be something. well, there is even more naryshkin there even before the discovery of the corpse. she sent a note to the kabat kudor. uh, like a catholic campfire. uh, a note was intercepted by the secret investigation of the governor general that she wrote to e. please tell me what you need for burial of a particularly catholic religion, where you can order a coffin, i found out the details. how to bury in the french rite? yes, everything

is clear. so tell me the compatibility of the action, if this picture of the crime was the way you suggested as example, yes that, uh, of course, uh, dryly could be torn apart by two feelings of wine before, uh, louise and wine before narvichkina before. yes , he knew, of course he knew that she was three months pregnant. he knew all this very well when it all happened. so tell me, and you, studying this person, learned something, that is, somehow the spirit of sukhov mare moved in you, but relatively speaking, but what has changed in you during the work on this material. you know how i am, first of all. when i studied, in general, his whole nature character and the contradictions that tear it apart. here i am, of course, i was attracted by the strength of his character, despite the fact that he survived all this in prison, such nervous upheavals for 86 years. yes, this is for those

times. it's just scary. here lev nikolaevich tolstoy is even more than tolstoy. and in this sense, uh, i tried. here uh, comprehend. here's to me the usual russian nature, you see, for me this is a mystery. he says, a talented person was a talent in everything. that's why i didn't take it, there are trotters there. i managed, i feel success with him, and here and at the same time some here is such a strange dark as he himself said. uh, strange strange destiny great run me great blind man destiny, yes, great blind man, he called blind. he is his here and uh, i uh i must say. yes, i really changed a lot internally while i was studying the dry mare. yes, a peculiarity, when you work with some material from a biography, and you change. hmm. this is nature. uh, which cannot but have an impact, and uh, this is such

an archetypal fate of a russian writer, of ​​course, when u are in prison, or uh, a writer breaks, or she, on the contrary, makes him a powerful figure, strengthens, strengthens his spirit. and this happened in a dry cabin, then it was the same for dostoevsky when he got out of prison. here, that is, here it is very archite. eh, this is such a collision in the development of the fate of the russian writer vlad, i thank you for the conversation. thanks this was a podcast, a must read. i am the main director and writer at bannekov, my guest was vladislav atroshenko, a screenwriter and connoisseur. e affairs of a dry mare.

you understand what kind of thing turns out andrey anatolyevich, i had several options, but entering, uh, an interview or an interview, but everything crosses out our conversation with you in the dressing room. when you said that you watched extra time and the penalty shoot-out of the world cup final 40 times, but i did not count. i think it could be even more than 40. why well, denis, if i tell you that i watched andrei rublev 40 times, for example, tarkovsky, you will not be surprised, but there is a difference. why does this surprise you so much? because well, because it's football, because you know the result. yes, you know the finale of the film andrey rublev. yes, but in each version at least also answers this question. i understand that every detail can be considered differently. yes, that's the thing here, uh, look and hmm no, i don't think he won't score now. yes, i know, even when he scores, but you know, that's it, this game is far away,

not every football match. uh, it's not only because it's the world cup final . let's say, uh, the world cup final in moscow , i have no such desire to review it. called out completely. but here. here are messi's last passes. and he beats, huh? uh, three defenders of the argentines fourth suddenly he hits the ball. and it's interesting to watch messi uh, mbappe, of course, and uh, uh, it's interesting to give me for the mbappe who dribbles, and there are fantastic reactions from each of the three defenders who did their job. uh, professionally don't rush further, to once again yes, uh try to take the ball away. and there are these views, a and this horror. is he really now, uh, after all, hmm, he will beat

understand this, uh, you forget that this is a documentary, as if you are really just watching masterpieces of world cinema, and then you know. modern technology, they also allow you to watch not only the picture that television offers, it has been formed, yes , let's say that the e-camera is still available now. e general plan. eh, camera. e. hmm benches m-m argentines benches of the french and leading players. uh, respectively, the icbm missions and this is something, i think that no one was watching at all, except for your humble servant. this is after as the game ends here is the last penalty and argentina are world champions and there this craziness is joy. and i accidentally , however, even pressed the camera button,

the bench, argentina and the coach is holding the camera. when do you think the coach went on the field to congratulate his players? well, after how long? in such a situation, both a few seconds and 5 minutes can pass. well, from your point of view, three minutes is something in between, i'm eight eight. it costs. but i can only fantasize what is happening in his head , he is standing, he is watching, he is not even running anywhere. he's going to pass. stops on the field. he has tears coming out of him, he wipes away, because, apparently, he cannot afford to go on the field to his players, uh, in tears, and french players pass by him. he shakes hands and thanks them. e for

the game. he takes a step towards the field , one of his players runs up to him, they embrace, and he again retreats to the bench. he remembers that his wife and children are sitting here. he looks enough, he starts across the bench, and there it means such a visor e to climb to his e, to his family they show him respectfully it’s quite that here the steps are nearby. you can go there, he goes there and takes his children. only after that is punished on the field. this is a whole life. that's 8 minutes a lifetime. i highly recommend you watch this. this is a football hockey podcast. my name is denis kazansky today our guest is the master of the club what where when producer director andrey tochka kozlov andrey anatolyevich good evening. yes and again, do you really look at football like a book, you probably read, like uh, or is it a pastime to relieve stress and or

what is this? well, denis, i read the book. in general. this is a passing time, yes, and sometimes in order to relieve stress, sometimes in order to kill time , sometimes in order to have fun, sometimes in order for her to get enough yes, and they have some needs of their own . it's the same, probably, with football in different ways. i am very, very. i do not presume to be categorized as football fans. that's straight fans fans. no, absolutely i almost do not follow our domestic championship. well, i almost don't. that is, i know who is the champion, if i don't confuse, last year zenit was the champion, you don't confuse for several years. here, i 'm talking about this, yes, it's easy to remember, therefore, i watched when there were international matches. uh, here are russian clubs or our team. hmm and hmm sometimes i watch matches in which our team does not take

part, but for some reason this suddenly, uh, interested me. we have met since 2008. i am very good. i remember that, you were in vienna for the final of the european championship and that is , big tournaments, as far as i know, you don’t miss, well, in vienna. i came. it was my first football. that is, i will say, so i was in dota before vienna in 2008, the last time i was at a football match was at the shakhtar stadium in the city of donetsk, this is hmm uh, the old stadium, yes the miner. everyone knows that the donbass arena is the old lokomotiv stadium. and this is in shcherbakov park, the main test stadium was mm. i was there i took out. i was on the teaching practice of the fifth year in 1982. the last time i was at football. after that i was on e in the final. e of the champions league that took place in moscow, yes, in 2008. e, that's it together, as it were. yes and so i went to vienna, but i went to vienna after our wonderful victory and reaching the semi-finals.

i went to the semi-final college match, came to the semi-final, uh, on the occasion i got a scored final, then, here i am, uh, i watched the final, that is, it's all very, very unrealistic for me with a big say. eh, boris is much more frequent than me. uh, on football in the domestic championship he has a club predilection for him. yes, i don’t know if we know how to disclose the right to them, but i think that everyone already knows. well, those who are interested in whom dynamo yes, and they support dynamo a lot in so if the team uh play, what where when dynamo played today and today, you always really want to know how the wonderful story ended. oh, i can’t. so this sunday, well, the upcoming sunday should be played in order to when the football team, uh, before

the world cup. this is some kind of european championship of some sixteenth year of the sixteenth year, and on the eve i cannot slutsky's team but his club. yes, he was the secret club cska wins against dynamo, i call boris and say. listen, well, slutsky has a wonderful mood. they will be in a good mood to play when and only then i understand that slutsky won at dynamo just lost. yes, but no, but you have to give credit, if you say, seriously. i fight that i think that there has never been such a thing that it even somehow affected. here's how m-m dynamo today or yesterday. yes, dynamo, i must

say, often plays. so the mood of the fans deteriorates. yes, it happens, but let's remember this game when we footballers came. yes, you cooked somehow separately. ah, what do you remember when they came? it's no secret that on the eve of the game on saturday, the team that will play on sunday hmm in a house in a boring garden comes to practice. and, uh , the chief editor of the program, valentina alekseeva , uh, alekseevna andreeva, uh, is training with the team? naturally , on completely different issues between stress what, are those who play? yes, otherwise they generally looked like idiots, they were told questions, they again can not remember in the next series so, uh, hmm three games to six points. uh, they play like that, but such a warm-up takes place, yes and hmm well, a very

useful thing, but the team of football players could not be on saturday, because they had a match just uh, the one that won it to a large part. eh, test of the national team, yes, and i didn’t have sunday on sunday at this e famous e hmm rehearsal, if you like, e, with the national team, e, i allowed myself to tell. although maybe i'll get it in the neck later. let's take a chance. so i know only from stories they know only from stories six football players came to play what where when and they tell me that m-m they immediately threw such a mask on themselves, but we are here like, uh, you idiots can't take anything from us, so we're here not what where when to play? and so to fool around, but let alone, if

we answer a couple more questions, well, uh, well, and this is a failure, so that when they endure such an attitude towards themselves, if you came to play, so that they would once deign to play somewhere, what where when is the question tom and how do you get them out of this state they already have this mask quite to themselves, uh, they tried it on in practice. yes, a completely understandable defensive reaction. you know, we have a trailer there, including a trailer with e signs e, the players at this moment also dress like stalin. and in this trailer, which means, uh, six uh of our football players. yes artyom slutsk berezutsky two copies. yes viktorovich well, yes, ha ha breaks out. and the most important person, what where when it's not boris natalya ivanovna stetsenko and he starts yelling obscenities at them. well,

viewer, maybe not everyone knows natalya ivanovna, she is a short woman. then he told. i'm standing naked, but in shorts. and then the trailer, but he did not know, he was not acquainted with ivan then. and then fury bursts into the trailer and starts yelling obscenities at me. i almost described myself saying, and the meaning of it is all god, that if you came here to have fun, then leave here. well, then , uh, words that are quite understandable to any russian man. where exactly do they go then? in general, it was so scary that they even won even four then what where when on natalya ivanovna dropped this mask from them, and they began to play for real, then we said that in general it would be good if

she went with them to the european championships and was exactly the same before the match. many of my friends signs are surprised and maybe even somewhat angry with me when i compare what people do when their football. ah, but i think there's a lot more in common between the two games. what might it seem? well, they do understand. yes, they are chasing the ball there, but here the question is answered in this sense. these are completely different, of course, but between them a lot in common. and let's unwind your quote, what where how? yes, as in football , personal contacts are very important, the main thing is not so much the condition of the individual player, but how he fits into the team. you said this during the pandemic, when there were still training sessions on networks. i'm just so beautiful, look how everything is, but with commas with questions. yes? uh, well, let's just see each other players. and it really changes the game and if the person doesn't fit, then the team. well, after all, we are all people, we are all people, right? if

we are taking a team that is no longer new, well, just created yes, but already living for some period of its life. yes, and it would seem that everyone already knows each other, and everyone knows about each other, but suddenly someone may well, for some reason, however, incomprehensible to him, yes , fall out of the game, fall out of contact , e, be silent, after all. uh, you know, it's in the same movie, but it was true about golf, and it was said that this game can't be won just by playing it. i took her status here for myself and as i said. what what where when you can’t win just by playing, what are you, when you need to there, the thought was that you have to really want to win more, right? and besides, what where when cannot be defeated. you can't win football without hitting the ball. well, actually impossible, and here you can not win if you are silent. this game is

about talking. these are your balls. and then it happens that the player falls silent, for example, yes, but this is not the worst thing that happens when the player suddenly starts hmm to be a destroyer. he criticizes all the time. suddenly he starts any version expressed. uh, to criticize without offering anything in return very often what you see from the outside is not visible from the inside, and you already see that the player has turned into a destroyer in this game, and the team captain has not yet felt this, but you look. here i am sitting, the two of us are very simple, i just look at you, but i can be distracted by the movement of the camera, right? or there, and what is happening here on the wall, and there i again have players and whatever one may say, well, so that i, uh, i not only hear, but also in the form yes, it means that i am somehow like this, uh react this player. i just, maybe i can fall out. not having time to appreciate that i have turned it

into a destroyer means that this must be understood, after that you need to put it. e, to the place, yes, but there is no time to talk for a long time, except during commercials, thank god live commercial breaks give the opportunity for these 3-4-5 minutes hmm to say something quickly in the team. and so there, you can say, shut up there, well, something like that. are you, well, some very, uh, short remarks. yes and after that, if you can restore. uh, this is the flight of contact, yes, well, great, if the team fails, everything will lose, everything is very, it seems, another of our super blitz quotes. if the player answers incorrectly to the super blitz, the player is stressed, if he answers correctly, it is also stressful, but from victory it is very similar to a penalty shootout. yes, i'm absolutely sure, uh denis what uh superblitz? what where when is the whole team playing? this is where no one agrees with me. understandable at first. let's

look at the misan price, uh, messi or mbappe, let's go shoot your first penalty. here uh in world cup final. let's not look at them. let's see what's happening on the central line. but it's you who will tell me what's going on here on the central waiting to hope. the unity team will all win. what are they? if you think it's great, it's not the team that plays the blitz, that is, roughly speaking, it's not the team that shoots the penalty with a specific bp, why are they worth this, and uh, and like that. it's important for the team. it doesn't matter for the future. wait a team that needs a point for him to score, they are in this case, right? in this the case to score, yes. well, if it is necessary for him to score and we say that this will not affect in any way whether he scores or not. why does he stand like that? rhetorical question. that's right, i don't think anyone arithmetic ever figured this out or

see what happens when it 's over, uh, stoppage time, yeah or overtime. and so, uh, the whole team gathered near the coaches for apparently, there the last moment determines who else will hit, and he also inspires them to the whole team. he's not a top five to beat inspires, he inspires the whole team and they are all together there something else. hmm yelling hmm because, of course, at this particular moment, when a super blitz is played or when a penalty kick is taken, of course, well, it physically hits the ball. uh, the right or left leg of a particular person? but the whole team plays. continue the theme of super, but it's very curious how the coaches look at the order

of kicking players. penalty someone exposes the strongest at the beginning messi mbappe. someone like the brazilians showed this in life that he was wrong. neymar left for last, yes, that didn't happen here in this plan, after all, it is also curious. how to choose a player who works for super-blitz. this is the same strategic story, coach or captain. here , it seems to me, there is here in a specific story. there are differences, though. technical players shoot penalties, at least 80 times in one training session they put the ball, hit the ball, put it hit the ball, put it hit, that is, technique. he earns. yes, the ball is the same field, well, with amendments, but nevertheless the same goal is the same e size what where when

whatever one may say, there is such a thing as a question, and it is different every time. therefore to develop a person's ability to play super blitz. i think it's virtually impossible . it happens differently for me, it happens that i announce to the team in advance, even at training. there that will beat. uh will play super. blitz, m-m antohim, it happens that moon skips there, that i don’t tell him, uh, they themselves will never ask. uh, who will play, but in the whole history it means how many games i played there 603. probably 50. i think some of them were great.

blitz. well, well, maybe in forty. yes but in fact, my team won once, everything was super close, and then, i would turn out to be a table, that is, it’s all ultimately from the evil one here the question is not when the alignment is going on, it’s all the same in football. it is impossible to calculate the team itself considers. super blitz blitz 13th sector is lost questions at once. er, that doesn't mean we're in the mood to lose them. yes, but this is a handicap for the viewers, this is a handicap for the viewers, and the game goes to six points, so you have the right. uh, three unanswered. e questions yes? further uh, you you're probably guessing, just put. well, at least one question that you will never answer the team will not answer. yes, there are two left. daughter of unanswered e, not

found. that is, the game begins from the point of view of the team from the score. e four. well, three zero in favor of the viewers, handicap and your task is not only to win back this form. and don't make stupid mistakes. uh, along the way, imagine that the game would just start with a handicap there, uh, france-argentina 3-0 in favor of france. you just started talking about how to bring out messi or mbappe, it's the same story. it seems to me there is. well , it seems to me from the correct answer, correctly , i understand that here and in football. which, by the way, are suitable, what should be at the table, just such an interaction pass, pass, and as a result they come to some correct answer , depending on the correct game scheme of hints. this is where the preparation is quite similar to what happens on the field or on the ice. you know, denis is still a huge mystery to me. uh, how answers are born what where when i

played my first game at the club in 1988. and for me it's still a mystery not solved not from the inside, when i play not uh from the outside. yes , there is some technology. well, as i said, you just can’t win if everyone is silent, what you are fighting with and inside yourself from the team is, so that any thought that comes to your mind sounds so that you don’t evaluate. is this thought worthy of you uttering emotional behavior and yours at the table and often the coach. and here it is how do you know how to find the right balance in this situation, because it can do harm , and i think that you, too, probably had several

such moments when it probably benefited the team more expressively. well, firstly, of course, and the coaches are all different and the captains, all different, i can say, so it’s more likely that for the kozlov team, not for any team, but for a specific team of kozlov, it’s much worse if kozlov convinced himself that to be calmer, such i say, too , were, by the way. than and kozlov no framework for himself didn't uh ask? but still no. eh, that's not a question. uh, well, there are six people in kozlov's team. uh, captain, they have six kozlovs. and uh, well, there are people playing that you don't scare that much. do you understand?

denis if i knew the answers to these questions. i mean nothing. where when yes, but how it is correct, yes, then, do you really think that i would not use these answers? i would use them. i'm just them now quite an elderly person. i'm always looking for answers to these questions and uh hmm i can't find them. well, it just seems that the reception is the same, because i have witnessed when the team loses two, but vice versa and win 5:2 and in the commercial break. you yell at the team, as a coach often does when the team is leading three-nil. he still raises his voice, saying that nothing ends at all, by the way, saying it didn’t help, anyway, i even yelled. i tried to re-, uh, grind that feeling of complacency while counting. and two lord , this is a terrible thing in favor of the team , there comes a moment, self-comfort, because that, of course, at that moment everyone already understood that they were great. well, to hell with you , the great realized that they had already won. nothing

won, nothing won. this is how arshavin said your expectations are your problems. and what is it, it happens there, it's just a sloppy throw-in. you know why argentina was very tired of becoming the world cup champion because it led the saudi arabian team. well, it seems to me that this is such a convenient version, this is the correct version. she, the germans lost, when this is idiocy arranged. you are nobody at all, you just arrived here. and you are already here showing you here to talk about football, came to play, or this one is so cool here, and these lost hmm and got such a kick in the ass. that, apparently, this kick is not present under all other conditions, but to understand that, well, as it were, there really are argentina and france yes, there are the netherlands which they beat, for example, brazil is nothing. well, unlike you. i don't breathe in front of the namer. it seems to me never funny characters

who are now remembered for their skill under this e, everything, time yes, but, nevertheless, brazil yes , there are e teams, but this defeat of the argentina national team there is no other team. i could also fall asleep. that's a different story, but for this particular great team of argentina, yes. e. this hmm uh was the guarantee that they would become world champions. this, of course, i can say already knowing. how it ended could have ended differently , of course, all this is much more complicated than you can verbalize. and uh, well, analyze. yes, but this analysis also has certain meanings. why is this meaning needed? and why do this analysis by the fact that if we live with you, and we live and our heads were found not only to eat, then we will think with them, but comprehend life. so,

when we think about the meaning of life, then we evaluate both our victories and our defeats. yes, not just in connection with the past, but building our own future. do you understand what's the matter? and there is a saying to learn from the mistakes of others. yes, pleasant people are easy and pleasant , and so it is on other people's successes. these conclusions. they are not only for success in the game there to never or in football, they are these conclusions for success in life. and why else would you have a curious observation of how the players sing the anthem before the match and you think that this is incredibly important . step forward, who will not sing the anthem did step forward. if only he wasn't on

the team. be it three times messi maradona and in one person. because it's not a question. in this case, oh, here kozlov is such a leavened patriot, his kvass flows down his mustache. yes, that's not the point. you at least marsolizu now it's not that you feel the country behind you. this is also very important without question. it unites. it unites. a joint performance of a popular song, well, what, in general , is the most popular song for a citizen of the country, if not the anthem of his country, but this is a simple thing, dim you since childhood. you know any other song. you learned later. so

the joint performance of this song undoubtedly unites the team creates what is it that unites creates a feeling of unity creates feeling stalking. my most, perhaps, the coolest team that was in my life. this is the team what where when 2006-2008? and we sang, you didn't catch it. and we sang, who is used to fighting for victory right before the start, and then even in front of the entrance to the house before entering the house, and then already standing in the house when the advertisement went on. we uh sang it again, it doesn't work all the time. today my team doesn't sing it. not because it's better or worse, because yes, it doesn't work again. then, by inertia, i sang for some time, it didn’t work anymore, but denis a

now we say not popular songs, but the national anthem. if you sing the anthem, then you feel it at that very second, but i don’t know how many there are 20 million, probably, and so there are active football fans in russia. maybe even more. do you feel at this very moment? their presence within you is not generally somewhere right inside you. they give you their power of this wonderful goalkeeper, er argentinean, for his tin. here he could just do what he wants. if you have a sense of humor, then you will laugh, if you do not have a sense of humor, then don't laugh. yes and you look at him when the match.