260 good relations, well, not a good positive attitude towards russia is the chinese. it’s just that many chinese of the older generation are still repaying historical debts, they sing katyusha very well and relate very well to the soviet union, and remember, and many studied in the soviet union , this factor of our long-standing closeness cannot be ignored when assessing our relations with china and a question for you as a historian, he is well, not a secret that one of the main main tasks occurring heroes of political change is now in the world, and in europe in particular lies in the fact that the us e. well, here i have some theories there. yes, what we are now seeing is hospitalism in its purest form, an attempt. here are the formations of centers of power. yes, of course, there is one of the centers of power - this is china, the second center of power, yes or not the first, then this is the united states, which seeks to destroy and destroyed quite successfully, forming a resource-based financial center. there russia and europe, even to a greater

extent there, russia germany is a question. uh, all this here, uh, let's say economic friendship hmm, cooperation has flown down, like dust for just a few years of propaganda, but especially for the last year of this demonization of this destruction, and will this not happen to china, that is, uh, when china realizes that its interests are all resolved, and this economic russia is no longer needed, as a long-term partner and, uh, won't it , so what are we actually doing now? well, here is what you are saying, an unprecedented turn towards the east in the first place. china india is the largest powers in this region. yes, because indonesia has 105 other economies peace in the next 10 years, but will it happen? so, mentally, the east is so far from russia that it simply uses russia as a lever, as a stepping stone in order to rise even higher here, if you can make some forecasts here.

to draw some parallels, to what extent russia can withstand precisely long-term cooperation will not be discarded. uh, the next partner there, next there, even if it’s for a long time yes, there for 20-30 years, but the next step will be such that , uh, you grew up there, including at the expense of of our resources the east will go further. well , first of all, i don't think we've been thrown back a few decades. i'm with europe. i mean relations with europe. well, maybe. you could say that, but still. i do not think that europe itself will not be thrown back, that is, they will not be destroyed by economic development, and it will itself be thrown back, as it seems to me, far enough back and behind another american gas the molecules of freedom yes will not lose economic profitability. yes, and secondly, aren't the chinese like that?

cunning, who, well, they seem to use us for their own purposes, but, probably, i cannot be responsible for the chinese. such a suspicion such a doubt can certainly arise, but on the other hand. uh, if you look at how geopolitical and historical these processes are, then let's decide right away that russia needs china. yeah, and not just as a source of resource, as a global partner, of course, it is necessary. he, what, he is not interested in weakening it, and we see the latest reactions, just china very clearly confirms this, as regards our resources. of course they are. uh, we are building these gas pipelines so that china receives the necessary energy resources, and we are interested in china being a strong and powerful state. and so it already is. i

actually believe that we still have rather positive and as stories. i'm not supposed to be a futurist, but still, based on such a historical tradition and trend. i think that our relations with china will be friendly and partner-like for a long time and to mutual people. thank you. and i think this is a question that, well, let's just say worries every thinking russian now. and it's very positive. but there is a blessing. where to grow for us and china and our relations with china thank you very much historical and thank you for the positive thank you for coming. thanks

ice water, wake me up time to leave. whole soul summer is my goal

can anyone help? on the seven hills, who warmed you? who loved you and you loved. together we are with you dear.

die together. cross

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song native group kalinov most is a podcast 20 years later with you leading konstantin mikhailov today we'll talk about rock two thousandth, whether he was alive at that time or had already begun to slowly give way to glamorous positions all over or even turnips, even then the soviet russian group from novosibirsk kalinov most dmitry revyakin was visiting me hello father, founder of the group and his colleague alexander vladykin. sasha dima hi. hi hi. that's it from this song. i recognized kalinov bridge. it was bright, albeit black and white. the clip was gorgeous there, dima was not immediately shown, then the mouth, then the eyes, then the mouth, then the eyes, and then a friend in general plan for the first time a song sounded on radio maximum i remember that i didn’t put something on then. it was the mid -90s, but we'll talk a little later.

from the 2000s, what happened then with the kalinov bridge group, what state was the team in exactly from 2,000 there to 2010 from the same thing happened, which always happens, if the group is on the move, if the composition of the musicians is all right, we rehearsed recorded albums played concerts traveled around the country. well , in general, everything is as usual, nothing so special. that's it, there are tense saturated labor. weekdays. you stayed, as far as i remember, in the region of 86 somewhere. so what happened at the moment, but i understand that hard work is serious on the repertoire and in general on the style of the group. what happened from the band's inception to fame was the same rehearsal of the record magnet album. how many years yes, 10 years, just practically.

works in the table why is it a chair? of course not, we had big albums coming out. we recorded them thanks to stas namin at the snc studio. we are already there in 5 years from the date of foundation there groups or earlier. probably after 4 years, a full-fledged album was already released, which in the soviet union was published in a gigantic edition of many billions of records, which was called eversion eversion. yes exactly yes , yes, then another one, and then another one, all this came out back in the soviet union. so we had the opportunity thanks. to the disposition of stas to us, to record in the studio when we wish, and therefore they learned from us, of course, from the records, because the concerts were, to put it mildly, not enough, you met at assad's film example. quite right. and how did you get there, for example, but because

i beat a lot at the premiere. well, that's all thanks to stas namin. he introduced us here too. well, you somehow made good friends there, and then immediately became friends at the center, and he invited us to moscow . and then, then another life began, that is, we moved to moscow as gypsies. it's full of carp. here they lived here from china if they survived, well, in general, everything is fine money is not very much, it was still not very good, the financial situation was at first everything they lived there together, since the person was an apartment in general and of course, and how old were you at that time. well, we were young, in general, such goldfinches, how old are we. there, from 24, even less than vasily, it was how many years old he was there. well, moscow, it seemed like some kind of madhouse , swirled this city, a fairy tale city of a dream,

i get into its network, you disappear forever. well , probably this is the last one that flies by, dear limousines. well, yes, yes, but something. well, not very expensive limousines used to fly by then, but the city is a big city and uh, original here, of course, uh, in moscow it was necessary somehow. concentrate and somehow build a strategy. but we didn't know how, and what songs did you write at that moment, was it still a pagan period of creativity, or are these new kazachy how did you characterize your style? yes, we do not characterize it for us , they characterize it for us, but they attribute it to you. yes? well , of course, yes, because for everyone. i answer it already. and how do you most characterize the style in which the knee plays completely, let's say that they played then and now. then then there was at all. uh, another life was a completely different

era. there was a single country, and everyone lived in the expectation of changes that they would come. well , including us, too, you were happy and don't give a fuck, of course. how am i always happy. this is what makes me different. yes, depression does not threaten me, and what is the secret of such optimism, but apparently in the genes. in what period did the group of tribes bridge cease to be pagan and look towards orthodoxy, and what was the influence of these eternal questions that are of interest. uh, where are we from where and how is it here and here with the help of religion, including looking for answers to these questions. do you find answers in your songs to these questions? well, when i am in moments, there, uh, of enlightenment, in moments of embarrassment or there in some rare moments of despair, i won’t say, because life is life is good up to 35 years old, when you are

young, when you have everything ahead of you, when you assert yourself, including in the work with the group, when the group of friends is nearby, and then, and then, as it were , the burden of loss is more and more oppressive and you can’t do anything about it. you are too well the life of a musician has a very negative effect on his work. it seems to me that the musician is not prosperous in his life. the more unhappy he is, uh, hmm somehow brighter and sincere fruits and creativity. everything depends on the person, and here, as it were, not all artists should be unhappy and or hungry there, so that there are enough yes, there are many examples there, well, in classical music, and, of course, they all depend not on the most popular music, that is, here, uh, this is such an opinion, such as an artist should be hungry, general satiety talent. it's not

a compatible concept. well, what is meant, satiety, satiety, we mean prosperity, so that sometimes it is enough to support parents to help. uh relatives help relatives. here's what we mean. yes, but satiety is oppression - this is another completely. yes, it is already. well, it wasn’t worth it, another topic that i read about, i just really wanted something, it was just some kind of such a dream. here i will earn money and where in the studio to buy a studio to build a studio of my own studio. eh, what, in basically, here i spent a lot of time money forces. uh, i did succeed in moscow, not in novosibirsk yes, in the studio there , we also write with dima. this is a podcast 20 years later. i am the host konstantin mikhailov, my guest

is the kalinov bridge group, and in the 2000s, what i remember was a lot of travel around russia , a lot was built. how much did you like this car? well, there were more concerts, because we were recognized and thanks to studio recordings and we began to travel more, which cities are favorite cities are favorite, but i’m a couple, so why is it well understood there? why because, probably, i grew up there beyond chita even further. here is chita. i really like people . i like nature relief. still, the hills there are half mountains, that is, this is all taiga is great. yes, it delivers and touches me. buryatia is somewhere nearby, the storm comes from there. well, sasha, what is your favorite city, novosibirsk? uh-huh and novosibirsk, but i like it reversible, that's nature. in kazakhstan, i

don’t like myself from kazakhstan there, these mountains, alma-ata, here this is all southern, kazakhstan southern apples. aport, this is all this clean air of the mountain, so you leave his house and here they are before your eyes in front of you these mountains. and novosibirsk, i have already squirmed there . what a good word uprooted uprooted already so the foundation too, as it were necessary. e, i had to endure, well, as in any big city, in order to somehow gain a foothold there, to live there somewhere, and even more so to work, and even more so in my favorite profile. it is necessary to have will. of course , the 2000s can be called a peak. glory for there was no glory and never will be a knee bridge because, well, let's say. such a genre. well, maybe even modesty. yes , they still evoked respect rather than some kind of squeal of delight.

well, the first work of our studio immediately developed, which attracted us more, so that it was all of high quality and both politics and music, uh, part of e works, so that, well, we tried to learn this album, on which the song native is weapon ninety- eight. he was somehow the ninety-eighth, he became sharper there, the keys with all alexandra in the group. when he wasn't there. yes, the acoustic guitar somehow also left, the electrics got out into the background. such more aggressive there material itself he assumed that it was necessary to musical materials. i mean that it needs to be made harder, but rodnaya is one of the softest, probably, songs that turn out. well the album. well, who decided to make it a hit, who did i decide to promote it at that time, who was stas or kozyrev or who is not there? well, it's probably worth mentioning that the po kalinov bridge still exists thank you for helping us. uh, guys

who like our work and at that time there was andrey kuzmichanov. he, unfortunately, passed away. this is some kind of financial private support. yes, this also applied to the musicians and the video here, about which you said, and the search for a director, video and a meeting with the director of the discussion. what will it be then everything was more difficult? of course it was necessary to film . now you can shoot it on a mobile phone and become famous. well , thanks to the support of our fans, who had the opportunity to help us in ukraine in the bridge, including exists and still continues to help us in the 2000s. you have noticed that already slowly pop music began to displace so much popular horn before it sat down and that it slowly began to be less and less fashionable deflate deflate deflate. yes? yes, no, well, it's a natural process. here it was such an amateur genre, then it began to gain

popularity, gained strength, gained a peak. it's somewhere in there, i think by the middle, let's say the nineties or even. well, in my opinion it the eighties, that is, the decline has already begun in the nineties. that's what this is due to the fact that uh, let's say rog was popular until he was supported by the media while he was, uh, the culture of the underground, when he was when he was the soup of culture, when he was captured, there were tv channels, there radio stations began to play . eh, like the youth has already ceased to see some kind of protest in this, they have ceased to see it. something really trendy because it's everywhere or not. not in this case. the fact is that rock originated in a vast country and the country lived united. eh, with common problems, thoughts , joys, troubles, that's all i could express. here and then, all this was in demand with

terrible force, the country of the region is separate or the country in general, but just now the situation is different. now it's already there. there are gadgets, there is something else, now the society is not as integral as it used to be, as it was , for example, there in the eighties or or in the early nineties now, but a tomized society and to write a good song that would touch. i'm very stratified. now the society is there it people are there, there is no unity anymore. so, to write a song, let's say, that would touch everyone, it's unrealistic, because everyone has various different interests and listen, well , here's the white dragonfly of love, dude, he just took a picture of himself on the phone and peter literally went viral in millions. the same one took off his guitar at an amateur level for a virus, so they didn’t think in this direction,

how to break the internet space again there were no thoughts. i don’t even know that this is cheap popularity, they gave examples that, well, you have absolutely not interesting. to us they are not musically, not in lyrics. so why go this route? we have, uh, our own, so to speak, path that we tread and these are rehearsals . song studio rehearsals of the song studio. products are ready in this, what is happening on this path now, making your way through the weeds or she, uh, sunny over the clearing pass. that's all, everything, everything, there is bad weather, and the sun and a cloudy day. that is, a starless night is some kind of sweep and snowstorm. well, everything happens. well, as in life, as with all of us, after all. i think,

that we do not separate ourselves from the people, that we are some kind of caste there, you know especially. here's who your audience is. let's say it was in the 2000s and now, but there, probably , the same one they grew up with you, or new ones appeared and grew up and new ones, and now, for example, now we were in kurgan literally a week ago there was a huge hall. i thought there would be no concert at all, because we are there first , we often cancel there. that's all, as if because of what, but people do not come, but do not come , do not come. they go here to the dragonfly hmm ah here the full knew that the harmony there is a huge hall, there are 1.200 up to the place and the youth. it's just that there was a lot, and they know they sing, and we are there for the first time in the city, so it's hard to say. we play somewhere. we are in some pub there, for example, we play everywhere where my plant is, we take every mushroom. here in the pub

there, well, veterans come who have known us for a long time. there they can exchange with us there tell us something there something to emphasize somewhere there to criticize, that is, such a barrier wall, no hmm, a what are your favorite venues, where it’s right where it’s comfortable, where the walls sing along right, you know, probably alexander will agree with me, we can invigorate any challenge. uh-huh , any challenge. any site any equipment. we are interested in whether we sounded or not, therefore, well, all the time at the level of experiments. well, it just doesn't happen all the time. eh, there are such venues, as if there , well, the organizers are anyway. respectfully, let's say it tries so hard and even under any platform, we can adapt. here 's another important one, too. we can come to some, well, there in the club to the little ones. he is such a dima understands that so uh, but let

's play today. we are such a program, because this is what we are starting for, and even the arrangements change during the game. with us, we adapt to the sound in order to make the sound it is for this hall, for a small one, and we succeed in all this, and that's it. a lot of people are surprised. they say that this song sounded completely different. well, that's not how we are. well, yes, and when do you do it? well, well, right now and done hmm and so platform, adjust the degree of intimacy depending on. just plastic is a good director. so, therefore, i don’t know the venues that i love, even we have all the venues, we have good ones, as if even well, that is, you can bark at the stadium and dad quietly, and foreign tours, the two thousandth were somewhere you. here's how directly

such typical russians were invited abroad, and how were they not positioned there? no, it was in the nineties that everything ended with us in the nineties legitimacy yes, we were there, let's say in london there in israel there finland, after all, probably, how they perceived it. there, anyway, in any case, hmm, all this, no matter how het, they know how to vizma, yes, then there’s not much surprise for anyone, so no , i’m talking about just not about those concerts, when ours come, who left, everything is fine there. but when we happened to be there in finland. for example, we played there only for the film, right? or there in england there we played there, for example, at the university there slavic languages. and well, who were these students? and how did they dance? yes, they were dancing, that is, well, as it were, well, they went let's just say that's it. well, we

had no illusion, that uh-huh, they will call us now at albert hop. now, if you imagine that any desire expressed inside this cube in 5 years will come true, it will become a reality for you to chew. yes, probably health and strength and talent to embody what is planned there just for 5 years. that's what's planned, that's interesting. clearly the health of the force. in this case, it is a tool to achieve. goals some more programs that need to be recorded. uh, studio hmm well cycles cycles cycles a gram of a cycle of songs cycles of songs, yes, so that it's simple samara's usmaranie goals are only a path or what? or maybe there is some purpose. so i want in 5 years there it is there, i don’t know, it has its own cultural center, like stas namin then had it, i don’t know sasha after the studio , there’s no goal left.

i would like, uh, that we expand, for example, and concert activity in cities where we have not yet been . hmm, in russia there are a lot of good beautiful cities, where people live, who write letters to us. come. when you come to us we love you so much too. well, it’s impossible for us to come to them, we have so many places still large of our motherland that have not been travelled. and we have never been there. that is, this is a shame for you to have a wife in demand and wait a lot, a lot. well, i would like to go around here. what is he there for? hall and the rest of the world, i wouldn’t be driven there with a stick , i’d even take kurgan, the group is already 36 years old. and we played there for the first time a week ago, and the same cities. well, enough, here, it was cool there in kurgan, very

huge there was a full hall, what was it? yes? well, it means that maybe in kurgan they know something about organizing concerts. what other cities do not know. yes. yes, maybe somehow the right advertising was done right. poster believe in themselves, what will they do? well, in general , it is best, of course, to lie on a couch and read a book. finally, dmitry rivers voiced his dream of lying on a couch for 5 years , reading a book on the yok stove and thinking of doing some kind of manilovism. yes, yes, we manage ourselves with the help of a sound engineer. that's talented. maybe that's why there is no such a big tour that there is no one who would kick you. eh, here, you have the same mentally here couch, you know maybe you are not so good family.

children. there is already there, what kind of music is there, what kind of rehearsals, damn it, or what? creatively? no? i told you, no, they didn’t calm down, but just this, you have to overcome the bed of children. uh, the distances were not rocker rockers we had on the air kalinovka couch. children, nurok is alive now okay, 20 years old. later, we have a podcast called. i'm worried about the situation. i think so, the song is alive picturesque, it will always live uh, and in what the key to do this song? in what genre with the help of what musical means? this is already the musicians decided by himself, but if the song is good. talented she will always live. now, let's call it rock. let it not be called rock, but i believe in the song, because we have a country that loves songs and the population loves to sing. let's just go back to the main hit, after all. well, this is my

subjective opinion, rudely kalinov bridge song native as i wrote under the influence of which they wrote it at a party with a guitarist. but the words were not written down. i mean, how is she? something was there, what started there? there was some kind of fish or bird tongue, here, and then, as it were, he walked around moscow and, as it were, already reported these words there. this is how she wrote it. so, then they recorded it in the studio and decided what? yes, this is a very good song , you can shoot it. that's how it was, and andrey kuzmich, he daryl, went towards filming, this clip on nikulina, grief, everything was filmed by very serious professional directors. it was arman petrosyan, he, unfortunately, died. well, later on, here are the maksachi too, as if he was famous he was an operator. yes

, that's all they are. everything was written there. we just sat under the birches. and we were called there to shoot, so to speak, no extreme story, like it was cold. we were warm in shirts, well, summer, everything was quickly removed and the video is a video. this is a clip. well, it still looks later, because they did it. yes, the professionals did, and you still play this song with pleasure at a concert. don't get tired. of course not, because there is a group whose main hit is so he is so much in demand he is tired of them that they basically don’t even sing him at concerts anymore , not us. with joy and enthusiasm we sing this song here. well, it is clear that it sounds a little different every time. er, that's all. everything is fine, but color, about which our new album, which is called canvas, was released in september. we have already played

the premiere and this play. it's just from this album. that is, such lyrics turned out to be for everyone . it comes to their liking. yes , he lights lanterns for some song, it always blows. yes , it's lit and you have something, uh, interesting in a concert rider, only yellow tulips. no, there is none, there is none. we have three loaves of bread, boiled, eggs , coarse salt, and black peppercorns, uh, here's a can of water. what's going on? well, everything there is sandwiches, there are two bottles of wine there, white red, dry, unpretentious paradise, what kind of music did you listen to when you first decided to create the kalinov

most team, what kind of music did you listen to in the 2000s and what inspires you to live now in your youth. uh, in the hostel, especially for the sake of technical hostels, that is, there was a lot of music there, we listened to western music, then ours went. uh, rock music, homemade already. which of the same names inspired you, but they are all cinema aquarium zoo. e, oorfene juice , of course, then the music is definitely very interesting. i listened to everything. what happened, and now it’s not enough that i listen to audiobooks, and now there is some favorite song that is still my favorite here on the claim. they are already there. i don't know, twenty years there. what is it, maybe there is pink floyd healing, i listen from pleasure wall. here i put it and calm down and listen. now here, if anything, concerns me, i time i listen. i don't want

to listen to bach anymore, that's all. there are so many things written that i do not like to read. i listened to everything more. here's what i needed. as i understand it, to live in general. eh, when i studied at the institute for 5 years, i heard a lot, a lot, a lot of different magical music. it starts there from bigbit and ends with progressive or as we called it artrog then, here are the bands here are the works of the bands of those years, they can still listen to them, a today e, well, everything, already, as there is no need. here are the needs, uh, to fill your space with some kind of music at all . well, let's start with a hit. uh, they ended up fresh. let's listen. just like your song is colored. let's visit us on a podcast 20 years later. she channel one was a group

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