[000:00:00;00] especially in the absence of precipitation and with strong winds, the security teams are now extinguishing fires in nine regions of siberia and the far east and in conclusion about the weather , the first half of the coming week will be quite cool in central russia, and warming up to 25 ° is expected in the second. this was reported in the hydrometeorological center. they noted that the temperature during this period will be 1-2 ° higher than the climatic norm. moreover, for example, in st. petersburg it will be somewhat warmer than in moscow the day before, by the way, in the capital it was the warmest day of this spring at the main meteorological station at vdnkh, the air warmed up to 22.3 ° c today will be cooler north wind with gusts of up to ten meters

a second is expected. that's all for now, see you soon. hello, my name is dmitry bagh and i invite you to a literary podcast. let them not speak. let them read. today we have an amazing program, because it is dedicated to space, we read in space. we are talking about this, what is space for modern civilization for modern culture. we understand, we always remember that is space for russia what is april 12 to our country, and i'm getting ready for this program. i even thought that our studio is similar to the iss, no, no windows. i learned before the program, that the portholes are watching the earth about it. we'll talk today. i even think that if we all concentrate, then weightlessness will come. but at least from

our conversations this flight should come. especially with such wonderful guests who are with me in the studio today - this is oleg viktorovich novitsky pilots. russia deputy commander of the cosmonaut detachment three times in space , this is vyacheslav lvovich klimentov, the main guardian, deputy director of the museum of cosmonautics, and this is vasily andreevich vladimirsky , a book reviewer connoisseur of accurate fiction, co-founder of the award for the best science fiction work, the award is called new horizons. hello, the most important thing. it seems to me that e cosmos is something decorated with a root, because we forget it is the same as that of cosmetics. but it is so, despite this. uh, superficial like the meaning of the word cosmetics. this is

a means of decoration among the greeks. chaos was undecorated space, not orderly, dark and incomprehensible, and the cosmos was that which was decorated, ordered, divided into rubrics, and divided into stars into comets into rays, probably, there was some great meaning in this and let's start a conversation, of course. from the cosmonaut, of course, from the legendary oleg novitsky. how did it happen that you became an astronaut and did literature play any role here, maybe science fiction, maybe ivan efremov, maybe something else and indeed. from childhood i was attracted by all these open spaces, because somewhere up to the eighth grade of high school. for some reason, while living in belarus, i always dreamed of being a seafarer. i read books, in my opinion, i was writing, and makarevich is a powerful two-volume, like a guy came to the merchant fleet, but nevertheless he reached the captain of a sea voyage. i

lived with this thought for quite a long time and only, probably, after the eighth grade, when my cousin entered borisogleb. hid it school, famous school. yes, i said about the life of cadets in currencies. here in all these kind of childhood dreams. for some reason, i drastically changed my mind about my future profession and decided to become a military pilot and began to prepare intensively. i was a little short of height and stretched out on the horizontal bar. i ran a lot, but there are somehow some restrictions on growth. you need to be tall, there must be some kind of middle gender, i don’t remember the standards of the military registration and enlistment office, but i couldn’t help but reach the lower stick, that’s literally for the season for summer. i stretched out very well entered the borisoglerodnoe school. unfortunately, then through the reduction in the nineties. i changed three schools, continued my studies, graduating from kachinskaya, and then served first in krasnodar, then borisoglebsk and for a very long time in budyonnovsk, that he was looking for a regiment from his position as a commander, i left for the gagarin academy, located

here in the suburbs and calmly studied raised my military professional level of the air force academy, the famous beautiful and before the release of the spring to us representatives of the cosmonaut training center arrived, gathered the entire flight crew and said that this year a cosmonaut detachment was being recruited. and you were already in some kind of military rank. don't know. well, as it was, it was enough, maybe a little early after all. yes, i was, in my opinion, 32-33 years old. it was a good age to continue a military military career. so when they suggested that those who wished to be selected for this cosmonaut, i naturally agreed to write a report on the passage for some reason. i i thought that i could naturally put myself next to such great people. how do we like gagarin leonov in titov valynov? what a year it was, it was 2006, but to be honest, i had to go to clear my conscience that i made an attempt. i can’t put myself on the same level with such people in any way, and literally in 2 months the selection passed and i

was recognized as fit. here is the selection of this cosmonauts. nevertheless, they said, thank you beneficial. i say what to do next? can go my part to serve further, i went back to the budyonnovsk assault regiment for six months and from there, already by order of the minister of defense , zvezdny was transferred much, the document went and then you already got to star yes, this is a legendary place. well, after all, did you read something about space at that time or, uh, it was somewhere off to the side. you were a pilot, yes , literature about military aviation and read a lot of adventure literature. well , tell me, but uh, except for the knowledge of technology, in addition to the physical data of health, but here 's some other worldview. i mean, not ideology there, but, well, something was required, as it seemed to you? then? well, some idea of ​​the distant. eh, space. you wanted to be a seafarer. well, is it still you, or is it just

the technique and but no, i think, after all, during the selection. this was also taken into account, because how much a person is motivated. that's it for his profession. this is right. why not just go to become a famous astronaut, to be on the front pages of newspapers. yes, somewhere in the last column in the first page on channel one, it happened, but i never aspired to this , i never came a little, but nevertheless. i i understand that we need to do the same in order to tell our students there to schoolchildren , just people, what we do, because now a little bit of information has been curtailed by cosmonauts of operational astronautics, so we tried not to refuse anyone to any organization, not a single school. one university to find information as much as possible guys space - is it romance or work? everything still somehow works. this is a romantic romantic work, but beautiful, that is, with yours, they consider it fulfilled in fact. well, essentially. yes. the only thing left perhaps the number of flights and in time how much is allotted for this? well, three flights. this is not enough. this is not enough. yes, but we have in space, well

, almost a year a year in space. today i feel properly next to you, as well as our other guests. thank you very much. well, now my question is to vyacheslav klimenkov vyacheslavovich please tell me, is there probably some kind of dynamics? yes, that's what 's been happening lately. and with those who come to the museum, what do they want to see space, after all, occupies, well, a few other place. oleg and i were just talking about this. well, not that every release of the program starts with shots, salute, 6, how was it? well, what do people want, what are they interested in when they ask me? well, here we are, uh, we touched the lowering of his apparatus. and you made a remark to us. so what happened? i say nothing and even if i touched 100 more people, nothing will happen. not even thousands of nothing. but you have, as yesterday we accepted our museum 2,800 people, and on saturday we

had one ticket for one day, and in saturday with us. 3,200 people in the museum, just imagine 3,200 touch, and you need to save. yes, not for a year, not for two for a decade. these are children, these are adults. these are the guests of the capital, they are foreigners, but now it is difficult. but who is this anyway? see? the interest is huge , even not just someone space, i would say astronautics, yes, that is, to people who make devices to people who actually pilot the devices and conduct experiments. in space. very interesting. uh, different family people, a lot of family people. yes, there are a lot of schoolchildren, a lot of those who came. just come here to relax very small foreigners. and i'll tell you more, while here are some interesting numbers. we are already accepting 10% more than before the pandemic. that is, you

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tinkoff credit after all, what is the museum's attitude towards some kind of interactive man-made opportunities to get involved or to display a relic? i prefer some of these, but i won't say in advance. what do you know, well, i guess roughly what you prefer. and you, because you are museum man and museum literary museum literary literary museum, of course, so far with speeches and relief that are in in general, it is impossible to see anywhere else, we lower the apparatus, we lower the apparatus. we have five of their descent vehicles, we have the legendary belka and strelka, which proved with the legendary dogs, who later lived 10 years of life, had puppies there, and so on, that life in space is possible in space, we have a spacesuit yuryevich gagarin, we have a spacesuit, in which a technological duplicate, whose spacesuit alexei arkhipovich went into outer space. leonov artist cosmonaut, a native

of the city, kemerovo, where he spent seven years of his life, how it all sounds with us alec like, that he liked to tell the same story always what, uh, when i was about 14 years old. i had a choice of who to become and i painted very well, painted pictures, all to be an artist, but also dreamed of being a military pilot, and we met in the family and it turned out that i had four meals a day at the military school. they gave me a uniform , there was discipline, and i decided all the same. we decided i became a military pilot, a great artist, and we, of course, have a very large the collection is more old work, always a picture or a superhuman is fine in our museum. we have already switched to art for a reason, of course, leonov is a wonderful artist, and with his paintings, he works on the polarization of space no less than with the legendary stories

about pavel belyaev's first spacewalk. as we remember, again, these yes ivanovich belyaev e. alexei archipch, leonov, these are all the names that my generation knew from the names and patronymics of these people. e even wake up at night, we would e pronounce it. well, i turn my question. e to vasily vladimirsky and hmm let's talk about art. or rather, literature. still , the cosmos is what is around us, or what is in art, or what is inside of us, and if that's briefly, somewhere there is a point where it starts. e hmm modern sans phishing of course, we can say that plato had fantasy in atlantis and in st. petersburg and in the crater and lucian from samosata and daniel defoe and where in russian literature prince duysky udostoevsky had an old funny man, but still here twentieth century, how much it depends

fantasy of the twentieth century depended on real discoveries in parallel were morozov balchevich, tsiolkovsky those who have already directly said that, gentlemen? it is possible, as it all began in literature. well, you know, here's what you started with the classics practically in the sense of the words in which they, in general, here the word is used by the classics of antiquity a and e, the authors of the new time, the authors of the 19th century. they generally did. it seems to me a certain vector. and e space for the writers of that period of that era of those eras. it's, uh, something more something better than the earth, that is, this is an ideal of some kind. yes, some, i would say even a place where they revolve and grow, uh, all sorts of different utopias of the world's rasouls. yes uh. well, starting from the fact that

this one here, the period of rotation of the moon is 12 times longer than with the aversion of the earth, and therefore on the moon since ancient times, it was believed that everything is 12 times better, 12 times more, 12 times perfect. and it seems to me that this is largely preserved in the science fiction of the 20th century. it is extremely diverse. i mean, uh, somebody used these cosmic expanses, like uh entourage for adventurous adventure literature, someone used for uh, dystopia for dyscopia in order to show how where humanity can go, where it is not necessary to go, but these most despotic dystopian ones endured worlds too on other dystopia. these are already internal terms. but uh, well, actually dyscopia dystopia is practically the same thing, but we will say dystopia for a better understanding. here, uh, and uh, still very u people, uh

xx century. at least. well, probably until the fifty-seventh year until the moment when actually. cosmos mankind finally broke through really broke through the ship's satellite in the same year, as we remember it came out. uh, roman ivan antonovich efremov fog syndrome. yes, the fifty-seventh year, it came out in the youth technique, then the most popular magazine youth technician was repeatedly resubmitted as a separate book as a separate novel. again, my childhood, god , millions of copies and aspired to space, like , uh, something better, like, uh, some kind of ideal. yes, but when it started, maybe there was even some kind of looking back at literature. i mean, we already know a little about it. yes, perhaps, perhaps, they looked and somehow evaluated the work of the same ancient ones, it’s all the same to berrahka. e defoe edgar poe jules is correct. well, right. it's already here.

as a matter of fact, julia is probably right. yes, you can keep a record of science fiction as we know it perfectly. as we already remember correctly , the landing on the moon never happened, that is, it happened, but already in the second volume e and his second book, but about the flight to the moon. ah and uh, the main goal the main task. uh, the heroes from pushkin to the moon is just yes, yes, yes, it's easy, come on, make some kind of travel proof. yes, pick up speed to show how it happens, uh, to prove that it is possible, that is, first of all. uh, it's still at the center of technology. yes, here it begins more clearly than a person. then you know , i wrote my thesis, i rarely think about it, but you know about it, because in some sense we also belong to the same shop with vasily. i wrote my thesis, they are weaker. and i'm with him corresponded. and this is a completely great e man in later years. he was very against

the man-made evolution of such an uncontrolled american one, and now solaris is the sixty-first year, right? uh-huh most likely, you know the roman of the sixty-first year thanks to tarkovsky, although they had their own contradictions, lem e denied that i denied the film, but the film and the book say differently in the film positive he had a fight. yes, there was a conflict, but still , this example shows very clearly that when hmm, this flight, so much desired by mankind for thousands of years, took place space i was born in the sixty-first year and therefore i feel like the same age as the space age. eh, then after all, there was some kind of looking back at literature . and this confirms our thesis that the cosmos is not only stars, but the cosmos is both what is in us and what is in art and now we will have a traditional middle. e of our

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leaning towards khatam, the whole sky will play over me, like a colossal moving one. there, for a year, a dream torments me that somewhere in another corner of the universe there is the same garden and the same darkness and the same stars in imperishable beauty and maybe some poet stands in the garden and thinks longing why i am running out of him for years i have been worrying about my misty dream. and this, by the way, brings us back to the discussion of tarkovsky's emma the trader at the premiere of the serial film you're leaving. in definitely, yes, we are from the russian embassy, ​​we have

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gloria jeans in our studio literary podcast. let them not talk, let them read, we are talking about how they read in space and how they read about spacecraft, how do astronauts spend their leisure time on the iss? how is day and night there? uh, day and night follow each other. it's very simple for us, we get 16 turns. in a day around the planet, respectively, 16 blossoms and 16 sunsets. we are guided by greek time so that there are just, well, such curators. no, of course, there are big wristwatches, damn it, more yeah, if the soyuz ship is flying along moscow time to the station the station back

only in moscow but he will stay, we are moving to greenwich now so convenient for all the soups , i can say about the books that they are now. well, very little, because we ourselves are well aware that space is small. yes, probably the delivery is very expensive, since it takes only a kilogram of personal belongings, so thanks to here all our technologies, if already on e-books. we have a very large company, a huge amount of recorded music, so there are a lot of e-books. yes, there are books, right? here, well, i don’t know, let’s say i like a person, because i can support bravo in my hands, as i understand you, completely different tactile sensations. this is not an e- book. i can't convey how this pleasure is to support something in your hands. uh-huh , what books? well, for example, have you read anything or not? it is difficult to give an example, because every cosmonaut takes a sentry or asks for support. uh, to lay down a set of some garbage, some new tracks, some music books. that is, there is

a huge amount of this information, then they remain. well, i want to pick up such and such books, if a kilogram of weight, then, of course, this is hardly hard. yes, yes sit and station. well, she doesn't want to either. well, in a good sense, bury literature, because there are very few places for me, all compartments are, in principle, overloaded with some kind of equipment and even a small book. she's already taking a seat. got it, got it? well, that is, i conclude from this that we also live at the station. yes, because there is less and less room for us. yes, uh, i have 30,000 books. i repeat this not in vain, not in vain do i i host a podcast. let them say they will count more than 30,000 books, and there is nowhere to live. in fact. i have them at two cottages. that is, we live, as if at a space saving station. and what about leisure , free time on weekdays is not very much, well, maybe about one and a half there, two hours , one and a half to two hours, and how much do you sleep for 10.5 hours? oh eight and a half hours, that is, well, no library, actually, only

electronic, yes, basically, yes? yeah. well, it's still good. and films are watched together or each separately. basically, probably together all the same, because it takes more time. uh-huh, i wanted to say that on a weekday we are engaged, in principle, and not in preparation. during the working day , you need to find some kind of equipment to study radiograms, so we get a clear view of leisure only on weekends, and then only after cleaning our segment. half day. we are removing our segment. partners do the same, and then on saturday evening, let's say, we can get together to watch some movie or a good soviet movie. or let's say some kind of imported movie. and what very well its a very common drive in the film. when not released yet. that is, we watch these films first at the station. well , how curious, that is the first audience. yes, the first of two documents. uh-huh they divulge always invite us to view. how wonderful is that? yes, it is a very good tradition. it somehow brings the crew together. let it be small, but the joint dinner brings them together. well, that's great. now again about the museum

vyacheslav lvovich and tell me, please, does the museum publish any books. and what exactly? here i have some samples here, yes, the museum publishes books. well how are we doing? this is a project, that is, together with publishing houses. now you have taken the book. she is very important to us. this is the second edition. event horizon. ah, the tender letters of the severe man. this, of course, is about sergei pavlovich, this is about sergei pavlovich, because the amazing branch is very beloved by us, very beloved by the cosmonauts. it's true. this is the house of sergei pavlovich korolev and in this place. that's all there, just like sergei pavlovich just left. he left me seemingly insignificant operation and more yes, with them in the bathroom, he never returned. and you know here collected with permission with nina's permission ivan gave. this permission is written before the transition from life, when some time passes to publish them, and now, against the backdrop of the events of the fifty-sixth fifty-seventh fifty-ninth

year, he writes letters to his wife, and the wife answers because of this small house of a house on ostankinskaya street. it's very interesting what turned out of this, well, at 47.65, completely 17 years of life. yes, and you know in the house in which i tell. he lived only 6 years, and i was struck by the number of suitcases in this house, because for the most part it is the vnukovo machine house and, accordingly, a business trip to the cosmodrome, or at the enterprise that he led. and also, i just can’t say religion. here, remember that there is an amazing tradition now about gagarin , let’s say, an amazing tradition associated with the house of sergei pavlovich, did you know this once? sergey pavlovich was walking, for some seconds he was walking and found a horseshoe in his house. there, in the yard. yes, and nailed it to a tree. this is right at first glance. yeah nailed it to a tree and now there is a tradition for many years, when in the safe of pasha e russian crews together, by the way, for

our strange colleagues, partners , come to the house before the flight and, for good luck , sit on the infinity under the horseshoe. sergey pavlovich it was oleg. yes, it's always there. great. i don't know, very interesting. that is, if you want to leave a kind, such a situation, you understand the literary tradition of the museum? he, too, must create some important things, create some new traditions. here she is so new a new meaning is some kind of museum event that is repeated, which is created around museums consciously for astronauts for the community for those who love astronauts, in general, this is just some very important bond. here you are lifted now to the book. this book is called the amazing story of the first flight. here we are trying to figure it out. who is yuri gagarin is insanely interesting, i remember the words that gagarin himself will say in his book. what a road to space. he will say, i am a simple soviet man. these are all

said. here is a little boy from a small villages. yes, under the city. that's how this way way? yes, just not divine, but the first man in space, after the book , show, therefore, they read in the museum in the museum. the museum loves to buy books, especially after seeing the exposition. and in conclusion, that they read the museum like they read nowhere else. here is the museum look at the subject and read the ethics of the floor, here is the reading and contemplation. and this is the achievement of the achievements of literature. yes, because really reading the legend is reading the explanation. this is also when communicating to uh, space astronautics. you said an important thing, the personalities of these people are really very important for us and how then these people who were in space accomplished their feats. and those who started out as yuri gagarin and, uh, colleagues who continue to make friends. yes

, how they then give it all away and the truth is a huge number of meetings. that is, even after the flight, too, all this seems to continue. yes, oleg, of course, is never available. yes, there are no former ones, no, i see. well , lena yuryevna gagarina is a director. yes , celebrities are, of course, a storehouse too our information is important that all this is going on. well, uh, our conversation has already turned to how the tradition itself is born, which will be included in the annals, uh, or have already entered the lectern of the annals of the cosmic conquest of the universe, and what is happening in modern literature, i turn my question to vasily. after all, anyway. well, it’s understandable, yes, but the fantasy that was once composed in the nudity, in my childhood there was a library of modern fiction of 25 volumes and several more volumes of appendices gray

red gray red. i still i still remember the first one, remember whose efremova second koba is the third in a row nishtyak you still managed to get these books much later you got them. eh, compared to how i read it, i, of course, to younger students. and i got it , as you rightly said, i got the soviet word already to m-th students. and it was secondhand buying all these names. we know robert sheckley raider. ah, kurt won a year, vladimir savchenko , if you recently re-read just alexander belyaev, if you take patriotic fiction a little earlier, well, these are stanislams mentioned, and so on and so forth. well, this is a classic and almost none of those whom we have now listed, unfortunately,

are no longer alive. and what is happening now? here is the premium new horizons. i recently read an interview with a publisher. very famous, uh, which the publisher says, more precisely, and she, uh, talks about the fact that fantasy among the younger generation of writers is again very popular. and what does that mean? is this some kind of skipism? this is the continuation of a dream. these are some developments of themes, here, what names of what is happening do you know, if we talk about space, i'm still talking about space, then this is a very painful , painful, painful issue, the painful topic of space is less than science fiction. yes, there is practically no space in science fiction, that is, if we are talking about science fiction about science fiction, which is based on some modern scientific ideas about the world around us, then most often the authors turn to information technology and space

fiction. it is definitely present, but it is present. hmm, so that's the background. maybe this is such a fork, which, by the way, stanislam spoke already in such mature years in recent years that humanity, instead of conquering the universe, as it seemed at the end of the 19th century. yes, we are first out of the fluff, then further away to the stars. well, somehow it went to the internet in some parallel worlds. no, i think there is. uh, hmm the connection is definitely a connection with what's going on with our space industry, which is the lack of it. eh, some understanding. that's so practical. actually. why does a person have cosmos practically, as it were, what on foreground i look like oleg hitches. uh, doubt looks at you too doubt. no, the questions are generally correct. you, oleg , also said that it works. now romantic work there. eh , take a book a kilo of everything, why do you just eat

something else and return some kind of payload from there. well, i did not expect from you vasily i thought you were swift. with some further. and you say that you need to understand. why, unfortunately, i talked a lot with our st. petersburg specialists, so to speak and experts in manned cosmonautics with anton pervushin, whom i probably know, yes, the historian of our little cloak, not very cosmonautics. e, optimistic about the future in the future of astronautics. i mean in such a global sense by the states. yes, some kind of technological breakthrough must occur, so that this everything will return. uh, so that, for example, well , the delivery of a payload into space from space became many times over, or there is some kind of terminal for an order of magnitude, which e took much easier , the second korolev should be born in the same year second king. he just doesn't know, yes , some kind of thing should happen, really technologically very serious, that is, what

will happen. eh, well, imagine, or science fiction writers certainly remember space, they don’t forget about it, they don’t forget it. uh, one way or another they use it in their works, but as a rule, space is just a background against which it can happen. well, anything can happen some kind of adventure there e collisions. yeah, uh, maybe life events. maybe the moon, for example. eh, there is such an end macdonald writer american non american er, british irish descent. here he was with us in russia several years ago, just i participated in the importation, he has a cycle. moon action. it happens naturally on the moon. some minerals are mined on the moon and brought to earth. we understand that this is, well, not cost-effective at the current level of development, but nevertheless. here he allowed such a fantasy. the moon is practically the same for him. here again we continue the romance and work. this is the designation of the practical sphere.

or is it some kind of cultural symbol there, in addition to, here, purely practically mining, there is also such a laboratory. social, that is, as different scenarios of the future, where in what direction will humanity move , everything is happening there, it is developing in real time. we have, in principle, unfortunately. eh, our russian-speaking authors are much less likely to turn to cosmic symbolism and even e space, as a purely entourage. uh, but uh, i can say that not so long ago a collection of new future was released and there, unfortunately, again that same story. there is not a lot of space there, in fact, the most interesting, probably, are space stories. this is, uh, the story of eduard verkin, who, uh, describes just under the influence of uh. well, how to say after the ladies and alexander green of the strugatsky brothers, ivan efremov, he describes exactly the same technology that we talked about technology,

uh, transportation zero transportation, yes, a transfer from our braids. to another to another to another part of the solar system or not only solar is not necessarily solar system to another galaxy of some matter, for example, a book, for example, a book, yes, please, when this happens, as eduard verkin teaches us, yes, uh, everything will change and the cosmos will return to us again in all its shining slava, how great it is, that is, the cosmos is developing in all directions. and in general , the word space in russian from the verb stretch, for example, yes expand, the german word, deir raum, is empty, like room in english. yes, there is no stretch space i don’t know what internal shape it has english words, but i really like it. i tell students all the time and teach them, because you need to look at what lives in the word. yes , the arrow lives in the word shoot. although

only space athletes shoot from a bow. it is an expansion in all directions. and here we are in our conversation. so by itself it happened. yes, we talked about technologies and real flights and losses and how it is fixed on earth , preserved and continues to live for people. and how literature goes, either following the cosmos, or somewhere a little ahead, so a and e a person who picks up a book recognizes something familiar from the reports of news agencies. so and vice versa. those who e, like our wonderful power windows vidtsky, and off the ground fly into space , learn something from books. in a word. thank you very much, dear friends. i think that we have succeeded in this threefold approach to space from different sides. let me remind you once again that russian pilot cosmonaut

oleg novitsky was our guest, and the deputy director for scientific work was our guest. all uh, cos. tsike vyacheslav klementov and we had, uh, a bookstore columnist vasily vladimirsky so we did it today and so i'm sure it will work out, and you have our dear witnesses and participants in the next issue of the literary podcast. let them not speak, let them read, and with the constancy inherent in me i say my usual final phrase. consider with