there is no need to catastrophize this case when we evaluate an event or our life. it is important to compare this event with something else. yes, for some boy, dad comes more often, at least this is how you see what is really there, we don’t know , he comes more often than yes, dad communicates more often than with yours. but compare from the other side. don't you know about cases when dads do not participate in life at all, so the conclusion is the first. compare yes, compare. yes, it would be better like this, but i know it's like this. a i'm here in the middle and my condition. my life is not a disaster, no matter what we are told, even by a very reputable tv presenter.

well, i’ll tell you how to compare it well with a cold head, but when the daughter in hysterics is already performing emotions correctly and correctly, of course, that’s why i asked, what do you feel, therefore, when natalya spoke very correctly about the task with which you come. yes? i offered to somehow calm my daughter or myself. so, when you fly in an airplane, you flew in an airplane, well, remember a couple of times, some kind of instruction, if the masks fell out, yes, yes, what are we doing, yes to the child? no, oh, at first i have everything to myself, so now our task is to show you how you can feel calm in this situation. if you feel calmer, the daughter will understand that she is a support, and then she will be calmer to hear, but about such a one, and you will be calmer when you stop being absolutely catastrophic. so, yes, evaluate your life and what happened in it, what is wrong.

well, let's, let's, everything, no, everything. there is want to object objection objection. let's talk. everything is right, she says, she even completely agrees that the tears of a child are directly knocked out of balance, they are knocked out right at the moment, and the child. maybe in this situation you can be manipulated, maybe, in fact, the word manipulation is not a tragedy. we all manipulate each other to one degree or another, even natalya and i sometimes. here we manipulate each other, and there is no catastrophe in this either, but what is important to understand is that you get into the head into the soul of your daughter. can't you just rate her external state. therefore, here compare two phrases, the point is crying and the daughter is very worried. which one describes the actual, uh, life, and which one is your guess

, the daughter is crying very much, where is the fact. and where is the assumption, well , the fact is crying, well, you can also cry in different ways, you can also do it in different ways, but until you implant yourself with a chip and your daughter chip and when she will cry. you will know for sure that she has electromagnetic interactions there, the biochemistry of the brain corresponds to her experiences. that's for now this will not happen to us your opinion that she is experiencing this assumption. well, this is futurism from mikhail well, that is, you can cry , don't worry, if you want, i'll cry. here natalya is sure, as natalya can do is an excellent specialist in her field. that's how psychologists always treat it. yes, actors can do it. no look. what story are you now pay here, i can experience i am without

experience, this is it, if you sit down, this is how you start to swing like this and this is how you talk about what is connected with tears themselves will go. well, what is this child for? this wait is the world, the imaginary experiences of our psychologists. let's get back to your situation, but it may be that the child is in a bad mood at school and has a quarrel with someone. yes, uh hormonal how old is eight? well, soon some hormones will go there, so tyts. you see, and also such, and we believe that all this is a consequence, that it does not sleep at night and suffers. i will say more than that, look, the less, she will now communicate with dad. and you, accordingly, you will live with her and the problems and tasks of the failure of adolescence, the more you will be like this, that's a strict policeman. yes, and dad is so ephemeral. here is a pink pony somewhere out there galloping

around the world. yes, just a prince on all magical horses immediately intercessor. kind heart, we indulge you understand, and the fact that in five years or earlier, she will still have such thoughts, such a watershed, yes, here, she’s a mother, she’s not going anywhere. mom is always here yes, it is clear that i love my mother , i value my mother, but my mother is also a given. here circumstance with which well, how is the weather, how is the foot? how about hands? yes, uh, like a hair that does not cry until it is lost, and dad he will more and more acquire completely inexpressible beautiful features , you understand, and the comparison is real you. and the ephemeral dad, almost like an imaginary friend , will obviously not be in your direction. michael is correct. i predict or again

i catastrophize predictions that turn out to be correct only when we test them, but we test them with real life. until she grows up. you won't know yeah i don’t worry at all about what kind of situation it predicts, to be honest, there is a forecast, maybe it will somehow be realized to some extent, maybe not, until you live, you won’t know for the next 10 years. this is a podcast of the psyche and our today's heroine elena does not know how to replace her father when he is gone. i would like to talk to mikhail on one more topic, because we have a young beautiful woman in front of us. i think that the question of your future personal life somehow somehow exists in your head in your heart, right? it would be very it's a shame. if it wasn't at all, now there is some kind of relationship here is another potentially significant man for your children is on the horizon you have and why for children

why is the wording potentially significant for children at all potentially significant for you or is it? no, wait, i don't oppose at all. i just i assume that if elena has a man with whom she will be connected, they will have a serious relationship, and some plans are possible, of course, irina mikhail can you for you? open the whole universe, but in general, for a woman mother of children of small minors , this factor is how her potentially chosen one will treat her children, how their relationship will develop. won't he offend them, won't the children, by the way, offend the chosen one necessarily well, what, and you finish , please finish, otherwise we don't know e divorces, which, thanks to teenage children, also happen like this

for women. and i know so for a woman this is the most important fact or not, or am i mistaken, tell me, thank you, that means the most important factor i can not understand what is important that da like each other yes men and there will still live if he wait you yourself remember our history yes friends. now, if you look at our episodes, the previous psychics podcast is weak, then you will see there one of the historians remembered it is beautiful, and the mother of five children, when her older children. just forced to run. that’s what he was wearing on the couch, literally her husband and, by the way , the father of the youngest child, you understand, and they didn’t understand that story run. i beg you, i wanted to run away. that's why he's not here for children. yes, children

can resist. yes, kids can be worried. yes, children can cry there. oh dad-dad, where is my dad, a very bad one. so they are talking about you so they can only ask the cape themselves adults, or we will, as soon as our children cry, immediately aim to get up and run. calm down. well, listen, let's, after all, we become more mature ourselves, yes, and we begin to remind ourselves. that in general our emotions that we experience, which we the pain that comes is not a consequence of the circumstances we are facing, it is the consequence of our reading of those circumstances. here is a vivid example you said, he rarely sees his daughter. i asked, more precisely, well, once or twice a month a question. why? is it rare? it seems to me prove to me that it is rarely more often. just wait. prove to me that it's

different lived in a traditional way, so to speak, in a family in its own way. that is, i would go to work in the morning and return in the evening to see my children, seven times in general - this does not mean that it was an hour. yes? that's what i'm talking about, once again returning to the idea. wait that your emotions are not a consequence of the number of meetings that take place. the consequence of what you think is rarely enough. and it shouldn't be like that, and it's often and quite a lot less than what you want for your daughter, but less than you want and little is not the same thing. well actually. and why should everything in this life be as we want natalie in your life everything as you want, and in my life it is not useful when we get something immediate from what we want it is not very useful. let's still return to

the situation when elena has another man, of course, the situation is 5 years old. i understand that no. you do not want this is not cheating. well, how? no? well, be fooled. see. why not? no, i never lie at all. in fact, you are registered in this e, where people are twisting , sitting, twisting, they do not fit for three days. i stayed there, i became, just because of this , the questionnaire is incorrectly configured. i theorist, so i don't like you about expert master. yes, i am a practitioner for working with people who are on a dating site. so here's the main problem. why don't people get there? yes, they don’t find someone. this is because they believe that they need to immediately open it and find it. but these sites are familiar. by the way, this one there just needs to be treated like gold comes to look for gold or

scoops it up somewhere on the river, which means the sand starts like this. and sift sow sow sow sow sow sow sow sow sow sow. oh we need juice. this is impossible. it's just that, well, as if the sand is at the end, it means a grain of shiny gold. he takes her. and this is the second mistake. and they say they are gold. no, until you take a chemical little thing there, one drop , you will not understand that it is exactly gold , do not say that it is gold. we have a lot of minerals. i recently was at an exhibition of generals called gold for fools. chalcoperi. you see, this is iron, but it looks like gold. here, therefore, means, here it is, and so it is gold for fools. this gold for fools. it's gold for fools hop gold. understood, well, that is, someone comes across immediately leads from the first time someone sorts out. maybe, well, you just need to set your friends up for the fact that i'm sorting out and sifting and

each of this sand will be there and gigolos and perverts. and these are all yes, here you are now yourself that you have now catastrophized for her no? i didn't say it was a word. hello to this maniac, let's go. come what they maniac at all you can even meet. well, simply, if we are to such people we treat like, well, the norm of life, it happens to stick. sometimes it happens to beautiful women, renewals, gigolos, perverts, well, now it’s nice to have other children communicate with maniacs. tell me, well, first of all, i have children i have raised many children. yes , secondly, i work. i am learning to continue to develop in my profession. here. and this all takes my total all my time. well, i communicate with my friends there as friends. yes, once again you have a desire, that is, to meet someone , to meet, to have someone, but not to spend everything

your time to search. here is this gold. i have absolutely no motivation and, uh, this is not the main task for me now, either there is no motivation, or there is no strength and no strength, yes , there is no strength, and where the strength goes, the strength goes to experiences or suffering anxiety in resentment for my daughter. well, there, too, there, too, you know. and why are you offended again for her fate on her husband? yes ex why because you think her fate is a bad setup? yes, i have that a child should grow up in a complete family. well, i grew up in a complete family, this true, and here is the fact that children should grow up in complete families. this is a lie. no, well, i would like to, i would like it, i really wanted to have to lie. well, that is, you understand correctly that you are such a variant of the development

of your life of your destiny, in which another man appears, and he is fine with you , everything is fine with him, and he becomes. here is this second dad for your children. you, in principle, do not consider it, it will still be much worse than if you lived with the biological father of your children, or i want to understand how lena thinks about it, just because that dad is biological no matter what he didn't like. the family doesn’t want you for a moment, but he was still better than another man who will adore you. and as they say that you love women, you love her children and will love your children, but he will not be a biological pope, he will still be worse than if he was a biological one, in my opinion, right? no wrong. i am not like that. you don't, you definitely don't. i don’t put a cross on myself at all already. so that he then it makes it difficult to think about the fact that while the children. they are small and yet

they need this significant man, and you will not find such a man in the first place either. why did they find it? because natalia continue my phrase. we are already with you how to start each other the phrase continues, because we were looking for, because the first husband left such furrows on her heart, you understand that she lives in your part. michael, she lives in some kind of subconscious countries. she has such a burn and the reflex twitches. all you understand is she afraid to touch. there is no such thing. yes, of course, but it makes it difficult to search. yes, therefore, the task is to work with the cause of fear, and the cause of fear is always a belief, for example, yes, but here, most likely, it is not fear, the divorce itself or something is the fear of pain. yes, yes, yes, i agree. you know, it seems to you that if you go to the left, there will be pain, if you go to the right, there will be pain. it just wouldn't be better not to go. well, yes, it hurts. here, maybe

such a relationship brings pain in fact, it's true. but the truth is for what yes, 25 years in a relationship e wedding, how is she silver prepared? here is a thank you yes relationship brings pain. but that relationship brings only the pain of this lie, not the right relationship brings pain and joy of limitation and opportunity. here they gave birth to beautiful children, completely without pain. you don’t hear, don’t remember, but there was such a motivation, i wanted children and there was a really strong motivation, what are we by nature? now, it's not about motivation. it's about your fear. pain fear of pain also takes away your strength loads your nervous system fear of pain does not happen because pain is possible, but because there is

an opinion that there should not be pain in life, that life should be. wow my favorite unicorns and pink clouds. yes, the denial of pain leads to increased pain. and vice versa, when we gradually, but regularly, begin to speak to ourselves elena. yes, in my life, there can be pain. do you know why there may be pain in your life, because you are a person, my good girl. here you are a person in your life, maybe pain in my life and in the life of natalia and in life even in your daughter can be pain. pain is a normal part of a mentally healthy person's life trying to throw the pain away. this is an attempt to become mentally ill. i have read your book.

well, let's talk about what the picture of your life could be, in which, of course, this pain will be, but joy and happiness will be justified by this pain and will block this pain and overshadow it. as i understand it, there are two scenarios to leave everything as it is, even three, and try to build relationships differently with management literally. yeah you like that's how management relationship with the biological father of your children or radically reset everything and maybe build this complete family with another person. here is which of these options seems to you, well, more feasible and desirable. well, leaving everything as it is is not an option, otherwise you wouldn't have me here , just build a new family.

well then, please, allocate time for this, because here i am working, children are studying, and here i seem to have no time, but i want no adult understands that if he wants something, you need to allocate time and effort and so , i'm not ready or willing enough. yes, as there is not enough listen, good. we are not speaking theoretically now. i recommend very smart. yes, we are sitting here all over the country to be clever. i 'll tell you that it needs to be moved. that's 24 hours in a day. something has to move something. you'll have to take a risk. yes yes. well, what is frank? yes, i confess to talking with you. i just started to open up. yes, like a woman. yes, and somehow already a little smile and already it turns out to shoot eyes, but well, just about two months. that's it. well, smart girl on the stream. yah this is so the beginning of the beginning. yes, once again

try to get out, starting a relationship from not investing. just some kind of expectations, just beginning, as if it were just shooting eyes. remember, well, yes, yes, yes, that's how it will be, you will shoot more and more right there, you don’t put your soul into it. yes, no waiting, good fellow, now blitz your questions that you asked us before. yes, your questionnaire, how to explain that the children are not to blame. it will not be possible to explain in any way in the near future, but it will be possible to explain, take this position. i i don't expect results. i just do it. and how to explain in words explain in words docha you're not to blame, and i'm not to blame. it just works out that way. one time, second third fifth tenth twenty-fifth forty-fifth explain, but did not explain heard. yes, the second, how to convey to children that dad loves them? report again, yes, but actually this is the task of the pope,

therefore, in our entire conversation today. i never once heard you call your dad and say, hey, actually, you have a daughter. she loves you. she actually cries be kind. explain to her more than once. and 10, that you love her? why didn't you do that? well, once, when just, for example, with hysteria. we phoned him. yes, after all , there was some kind of dialogue, which means that it’s just important that it’s not at the moment of hysteria. and regularly regularly regularly regularly. vasya you have a daughter. i just saw this kind of denial right now. why can't you do it with a cold head? call to discuss what's getting in the way, but it's like i 'm doing it again somehow. that's all, of course, it's your task nothing terrible there. no, there is nothing terrible about the reaction of some kind. and what then can be in your reaction?

i know it’s good to cry, sometimes life doesn’t feel like it, because you’re some kind of burn again, says reflex yes, why are you afraid that you will fang you and cry? yes, well, that is, to persuade dad to somehow fall in love, well, somehow convey daughters and say this. here he loves, judging because he does. he likes. you just understand that people love them too, but in different ways, yes, that's why you just show that you can love in a different way. but and and once and the second and third and fifth. for some reason it seems to me that if another man appears in your life, you will have other relationships, you will have a future, you will stop pulling your arms and legs. here from this red-hot past of his from the unhealed past. i think, on the contrary, everything , when you stop pulling , a man will appear in you

. well, last question. if necessary take on the role of mom and dad. and where do you go, take it, take it? just don't make a mistake. yes, because look, this is a mistake, that i'm a dad, which means, well, the role of a dad, but what do i earn there? yes, but i'm like a mother, always affectionate in everything, so gentle and understanding, and this is also strictness. but you know the mistake, what should be both dad and mom, it's kind of like me, my life didn't work out, it didn't work out. yes, it's okay to be both mom and dad. yes, good. you are well done. you mulberry parts are normal, yes it has developed now society so happened would like it differently, yes, but disaster or not. it was a podcast about normality, friends of the psyche, where i am a journalist, natalya loseva and my co-host, candidate of psychological sciences, a clinical psychologist. mikhail khors

brings this very normality into the light of god and the story of our heroine. and lena will very, very resonate in the hearts of many to come to visit us. and all episodes of the podcast psyche. you can watch it on the first channel website. hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov is a podcast of space stories. today my guests are actors, milos, bikovich. and evgeny okhrimenko. we are united by the fact that we have become participants in even the challenge project, which is grandiose on a cosmic scale . russia has taken another step forward once again and proving that we are a space power and

the joint project of roscosmos and channel one is always in the first place. this first- time film art challenge comes out of the 20th on wide screen cinemas. here, tell me. uh, how did you find out about the project at all and your reaction is the first reaction to it scream was introduced to me by my ex-husband and i always say that i thank my ex- wife for having two amazing children. they closed the foam car, and we have been friends since 2010 , just when i moved to russia and i don’t even look at the script if they call me and offer me a role. i say, yes, i don't know what the script is, who's playing there? and by the way, it was very real. it's funny, when i got on the whole playground, i had no idea who was playing there and i'm sitting on makeup and girls. so everything is great and the climate they tell me a call from the script, but you can already lead volodya to make-up, and vladimir a

lvovich mashkov he sits next to me at that moment. i understand, i say so. hello in gta, you play so-and-so and that's why i love klim because you never know where you're going to know that the cream has already flown into space. well, of course, well, there was an actress, but there is and no. i knew. i knew yulia, like everything else, then i met a cutie and found out that it was cutie, but why am i saying that e klim has an absolutely amazing gift to take e not just people around me, but to create something completely unique is amazing, so i did not pass the casting. thank you very much, and klimakey shipenko, and i got there. well, you can say, probably through friendship and his previous projects. you play in the film doctors from soup doctors. yes, that is, the person who sits in the center correctly by flying into the soup with korolev and helps the main character is consulted

during her operation. just going through i still. i remember when you start to learn, text and terminology, especially. right there fast there moment of stress. there you need to decide quickly and very quickly our boss is a wonderful artist. igor gordin he calls there before this before and so on. and we had to respond. and when i started, uh, i failed a lot. i'll be honest right away, that is, i was so lost, but we had a wonderful wonderful consultant there. thank you very much they have such, guys you have such patience. here, among the cosmonauts, those who around patience just need to erect a monument. well no, of course not. where am i from? well if you say at all before the project. no, i didn't even know i had to. yes, it works every day, my dear. tell me how you found out about it. or

you, too, again dough. you tell, you can tell a lot, firstly. i found out, i read local projects somewhere. you can eat, we are friends, we are all of us, but i kept this secret for you. no, i'm not us. i just at that time i was somewhere i was somewhere there somewhere you read and yes i read. and then the next time i met with the producers. i haven't met klim yet. then. uh, i met with the producers. i asked what this is history and so on. they told me more, then i call him and tell him. you're really flying into space. he says, yes, i say, listen, i know that you probably hear this question constantly. and you need someone somewhere to make coffee for you, he said, listen, most likely, well, two people are taking here and most likely it will be a woman. and your role what is

the surgeon in the film? well, he's very good at what he does. uh, and he's getting ready to fly into space to perform surgery. uh, an astronaut got injured in space and can't be brought back to earth, because you, as you know better than me, uh, and endure a very strong load during the descent and he is in such a state that she will not withstand this load and the only chance that he survived is to have him undergo an operation on orbit in orbit, yes, and my character is well, the main candidate of the main chairman for the place to take off and do the operation. but what is happening there and why yulia ended up flying and not my character can already be seen in the film and

i think it’s not worth revealing now. that there is obtained. well, here in the films, of course, that you yourself rotated with this fugue. yes, some items. uh, i think it's very interesting, yes, it took place in the city center, we had a video. let's remember how it was. it was the first time the first, the more we'll see. most of the muscles just need to get used to this. the simplest movements, which on the ground you don’t even pay attention to weightlessness, can cost you injury.

how cool are yours, how did it feel? it's real weightlessness yeah it's real yes, but there is here it was necessary to play. and what

happens? and what doesn't work, that is, sometimes we deliberately kind of clumsily do this thing, to, well, show in front, yes, yes, show the obstacle that the characters face through, to show how difficult it is. so, when i rehearse in zero gravity for the first time, of course, it doesn’t work out for kids, or you were given the opportunity to move around there. we, as we did , we are the first. uh, first day one. uh, they flew once. we had 10 city and 10 times. we were in zero gravity for 23 seconds. we did not shoot, we rehearsed, they explained to us what should be done approximately. what shots need to be made and we rehearsed this one, of course, it didn’t work out right away, but already after the first second first second attempt there. we have already done what we need to do, but sometimes we need to shoot that

the camera and the cameraman don’t work, and everything starts flying, and then there is, uh, guys. uh, gentlemen, the instructors who stand and for whom i have so daily work, which stand, you already know that after that, after that, today is an actor. yes, we have actors today. yes they know you you uh the plane lifts it starts to fall and you get into it turns out. this is u weightlessness and after this type it sticks u to the floor, because the plane starts, uh, again picking up with holy overload, that is, breaking this hill is called and load. yes, yes, and the load is double. that is, you just need you if you have 100 kg, you have two of the feeling, as if 200 and but even then you need to attract them in order to endure it and so that the blood does not bloom

from the head of the leg and so on, you may lose consciousness, but the guys who are already used to. they don't get up anymore when weightlessness doesn't work for them, because they just hold on like that and don't lie down anymore . twenty-second second we are at the bottom head up, you know, like a dog. they 're like, they just go down quietly like that. yes, yes , they let you down so that you don’t break anything there. listen, was there anything when you were there, well, it’s physically difficult there. it’s scary, but it was some moments. i didn't feel in danger. well, yes, there is a moment when the plane begins to rise. and he gives you a piece of paper, you highlight it and the instructor says, in short, planes sometimes fall not this one, but there is a first time for everything, if you see.