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. deputy general director i know all staff and external employees do not trust someone to work. irina has been a lover for several years now. what is going on here, citizen kravtsov, you have been charged with organizing

a criminal group under article 210, part one. here you can familiarize yourself with the materials of the case? i 'm asking you what's really going on here. from moscow to do the control at the very at a high level at the minimum wage, you fucked up, or something, 210 is 12

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on the air the big game today there is international good news and not so good good news. this is news that russian president and iranian president vladimir putin ibrahim. raisa jointly made a statement via video link that they would the very important iranian railway was expanded , which will significantly speed up the transfer of goods from the indian ocean.

suppose even from such a port as mui to st. petersburg a very significant reduction in e, time and difficulties of this kind of transportation. i will say that it seems to me that the political significance of this shows even more as countries that are targeted by the americans. eu sanctions how they rally ranks and can achieve uh, very important results is not exactly good news - this is how described the international situation. today, foreign ministers, sergey lavrov but we will talk about this a little later, and now we will talk about a very serious situation that is happening in the donbass on the line of contact between russian and ukrainian

forces and semyon pegov is a well-known war correspondent with us via skype today. a simon good afternoon greetings to you. thanks for taking the time. all proximity near the line of contact, my team is actually working on the entire large front, starting from the southern borders, it is turned on, its central part and ending , of course, with the northern borders, where matchmaking, crime, and so on, i myself have been in recent weeks, and in donetsk, on the front line , i will tell you everything that interests you in as much detail as possible. ask your questions simon thanks. well first eh. tell us what is happening in the old days and what is happening in artyomovsk, and then give us your general description of the situation after artyomovsk.

how do you see her? well, if we talk about the dave direction, but add gorlovka where the enemy is literally a few days ago he tried to seriously break through our line of defense. true, this attempt was unsuccessful. despite the fact that the events at the beginning developed dramatically for us, several strongholds, neo-nazis, managed to rally. we will say so to occupy, however, our fighters of the heroic third brigade. the first army corps of donetsk is such a separate formation as part of the armed forces of the russian federation, which we also note a little separately, because basically, and its ranks consist of local donetsk guys who have been at the forefront of the fight against neo-nazis for all 9 years. so these are people with rich military experience.

they are well aware of the nature of the enemy’s behavior, his tactics, his manner of fighting, therefore, when he is not the nazis, yes, they achieved local success, the third brigade and the fifth from there , with the help of tank units , they managed not only to eliminate this success of the neo-nazis, but also to inflict serious fire defeat. there is even a video where one of the commanders of the third brigade records against the background of the bodies of the appeal to the nazis, i turn to them and say that this is waiting for everyone who tries to break through this line. in this sense. this is a great example for all the other guys. at the front , it is absolutely clear that the enemy will not throw all the forces that he has accumulated at once. he will first try to break through somewhere for our understanding. say this offensive , uh, ukrainian forces, to which you said it was small groups or it was a large-scale

offensive. it looks like uh small ones go into armored groups - it's like as a rule, two tanks, 3 infantry fighting vehicles, that is, five units of armored vehicles, sometimes there are slightly different combinations, for example, there, and three tanks, two infantry fighting vehicles. well, in general, this is an approximate scheme. these are small armor, fists, where somewhere there are up to 50 infantry people for them, which is important to find. eh, find our weak points where our defense can crack at the seams and only then build on success. well, at the initial stage, this plan is so far that they are not succeeding anywhere. moving from gorlovka directly, i’ll confirm that there too. similarly, the enemy’s attempts are constantly is making on the whole line. here are the contacts in the donetsk region, that is, despite the fact that the first corps will be along with the guys from wagner, this is the unit

that really still goes forward trying so. otherwise, to advance, and not to stand on the defensive and wait for the enemy’s counteroffensive, nevertheless, the neo-nazis are still trying to find our weak points somewhere at the junction of units from the flanks , this very often happens, and in the hope that neo is too well built interaction, however. all uh lessons the previous interactions were taken into account, 100% established , our drones are constantly on duty in the sky, as soon as the enemy tries to yes, we will say another such sortie or another such one, yes, crank up an adventure in reconnaissance in force. we inflict fire damage as quickly as possible, if, uh, it is necessary from artillery, if there is no way to reach artillery, and the distance is already too close to us. there guys. the same somolitsy, the same spartans. the same guys from the eleventh regiment of the first slavic brigade. generally ready

meet the enemy. what is face to face? if anti-tank grenade launchers are already hitting armored vehicles, they do not allow the enemy to find that weak spot where he could develop success, nevertheless, the fire pressure is increasing . , then this is also here. eh, the avdeevka fund, partly in donetsk itself, more and more often and again on a larger scale. yes, there are shootings. and, of course, we can not ignore. here in our deep the rear, lugansk, where the enemy is, but, trying to calculate the accumulation of our forces, trying to calculate the command posts, they inflict high-range. yes, with these new missiles, which strikes came from britain, which, of course, also affects some kind of operation. we must also learn lessons. what is the situation in artyomovsk? well, in artyomovsk, we judge by

reports. as a matter of fact, an official from dude wagner on how they're progressing. and apparently, they really did have literally a few multi-storey buildings left to clean up, too, despite certain problems. uh, offensive actions, but the guys from the orchestra do not stop and that's all we are waiting for that day, uh, literally from day to day, really. they will take complete control. artyom literally. i repeat, there remains the matter of the technique of clamping neo-nazis in the so-called nest. this is such an area of ​​about forty high-rise buildings, more than half of them are already under the control of our forces, semyon thank you very much. thank you who arrived on time. take care of yourself. and i hope that we will soon see again on our air. well uh, we hear what's going on in the donbass fierce fights that the tension

increases on that while it's happening. in general, all the same, at the level of ukrainian probing for vulnerabilities about a small-scale offensive. we live and we'll see. i think that if ukraine fails to find these vulnerabilities, then it may turn out that this big offensive will not happen. but at least i would n't count on it yet, but in the world as a whole, the situation is very, serious and very disturbing and, uh, in. in general, we are really talking about the fact that against the backdrop of battles in ukraine there is a big political and economic battle for a new world order and a very, very battle. serhiy lavrov, the minister of foreign affairs, spoke about this cruelly today. as macron said, this

security architecture must be built in such a way that ukraine is protected in the most reliable way. well, you need to find a place there somehow. here in this whole concert of the russian federation is already exhausted and disarmed. well, it reflects only one thing, that they want this conflict to continue. they want to constantly raise the stakes to escalate what now they call it an escalation, and the weapons that the british have now transferred are, uh, long-range and aircraft that some former soviet countries are already transferring. ah, and promise modern american. well, uh, they're probably not naive people. at the very least, their military would have to

explain to the politician that at some stage, uh, actions meet opposition. and if you raise the bar and increase the quality of the confrontation, then you should probably expect, uh, appropriate reactions, at least according to the laws of physics, according to the laws of wartime. andrey denisov member of the federation council and former ambassador to china, and you came to new york to replace won. and lavrov yes when he finished his role as ambassador to the united nations and became foreign minister and won lavrov of course. you know well. so, when he warns, in which he warned that actions will justify opposition, how should these words be taken as an obligatory diplomatic form? and or as

a warning about something very, very serious, well, it seems to me. will be right to say that both are foreign ministers of a great power. what russia is like does not throw words into the wind, especially since we all know sergei viktorovich lavrov well and know the value of his words. he uh never gets emotional. he always expresses a political position, never at the same time, departing from such a main line that foreign policy in our country is the policy of the political leadership of our country, the policy of the president of our state, and therefore it must be perceived in this way. i would add to this only one thing in the words of sergei viktorovich, there is the same motive that has been expressed more than once, and in a very different context

, our diplomats and politicians, we answer, we are forced to respond to the steps of the opposite side, in the end and a special military operation. it is forced to a certain extent. the answer is when there are no other ways to answer in this context, i understand the words of our minister. it’s interesting, after all, how the united states and nato, led by the united states, how they relate to before russia, many of us, including me, in general, uh, did not really think about this topic. i mean, uh, we understood that the relationship was tense. we understood that there was a clash of interests. uh, we understood that there is an internal policy in a number of western countries, including the united states

, an internal policy that spared some extreme drastic measures against russia and made cooperation difficult. well, in general, somehow. it seems to me that we all collectively did not focus on what they think, but on russia. if you want a fundamental philosophical plan. and then i found a very interesting quote because of the former. ambassador of great britain to france which he placed in his diary, and immediately after the end of the first world war and the results of the versailles conference. this is how she reacts. let's listen. no, more than russia, it fell apart and the idol in the person of the emperor and religion disappeared , which connected the different nations of the orthodox faith. if only we manage to achieve the independence of the buffer states that border germany in the east, that is

, finland, poland, ukraine, and so on. how many if they could be fabricated, then for me the rest can go to hell and boil in their own juice, and so that we understand, yes , this is an unofficial statement, but this is his diary, which he himself published, that is, in other words, he not only was not uncomfortable for this is a statement. he wanted the english elite reading public to know his point of view, well, it seems that the point of view is so very extreme. here, let's listen to another interesting statement, a statement made, uh, much closer to our time, and by an american diplomat, whom in moscow, a was taken very seriously and highly respected. this is williams, who was sent to moscow, but now he is the director of the cia , let's hear what he wrote in his

telegram. washington russia is too big , too proud and too shy of its own history to fit into a europe whole and free, neither we nor the europeans. in fact , russia has never been considered one of us. never considered never so and is. it is, but, uh, when we look at what policy they are pursuing on specific issues, these assessments russia's places in the international order are these estimates. i think they are very important. and these are not some polemical statements propaganda uh, the result of some kind of irritation is not, uh, these are their assessments that they put in their books and assessments with which they are clearly, well, they are comfortably proud, how can one talk about a return to the status of

relations with the west in these conditions. well, to be honest, i don't see how, uh, i would add another quote from uh kipling that russians, as he said, are both lightful and pleasant. that is, both pleasant and well, let's just say good people until, as he said, until they start tucking their trousers into their shirts. this is such an english expression to you kin. e behind bars, which means that they are preparing for a fight , followed by the argument that they think they are the most eastern of the westerners, but in fact they are the westernmost of the easterners. but that's okay, but then there is such a phrase that in fact, this is a genetic anomaly which is an extreme handle, which is very difficult to handle, with which a genetic anomaly

russia yes. yes, russian russians. this is a genetic anomaly that is very difficult to manage. here is how i would translate the sentence. they tried to manage us in the nineties and a little later there was such an opportunity, then this opportunity. it was lost, and now this hidden self came out because, if you look again carefully read the words of william burns, this is essentially the same kipling thesis, but only stated in such diplomatic language and nothing more, here you are they said that before, we somehow did not feel it. i, at least, well, i didn’t feel it either, we didn’t feel it all, because in principle, what happened before suited us to some extent. we saw certain deviations, but we considered that our work was our positive attitude. we can somehow compensate for this. now we see that this is impossible, and you have not only seen it. well, i mean, not only you

personally, but also russian diplomacy tried in the nineties to do everything possible to establish some kind of partnership and even were ready to accept relations with russia would have been a junior partner, but only if , however, she was a partner, i would have to clarify a little bit the nineties, it's still like that. well, let's call a spade a spade. this is a failed, uh, period of our modern history. i would take a later period, when we moved away a little from this trouble in zero. yes, zero. well, somewhere around a dozen , let's say, before and after. eh, indeed, indeed, our foreign policy at that time was already based on a completely other principles, but we really tried to do our best to improve the relationship in order to find some positive things. in the end signing the contract about here. uh, the last in the order of the treaty of strategic

offensive potentials. this was a very serious step on our part. i, uh, at this time work in the central office of the ministry of foreign affairs, directly with american affairs. this is not to do. i had others who were first deputy ministers. well , including the first for i do not suffer, but i have rather, there were administrative functions of the economy of the cis countries, but i saw and took part in the development and adoption of decisions that were aimed precisely at, giving positive signals, the west in the broad sense of the word, by no means only america at that time, by the way, william berenson was here in moscow in the suns of the united states and as it seemed to us, uh, being a very experienced person and uh, let's say constructive. e, in general, he also tried to draw a line from the other side, but as an ambassador, the ambassador always works to improve relations in this his task. well, it turned out that it turned out , you know, i met benz. only

when he was already ambassador in moscow and was recommended to him in the white house. i mean during administration. bush jr. got to know me, and he invited me to his place when i arrived again. to moscow and , uh, i used to when i met american diplomats in moscow, i told them about my impressions. and what i discovered let's figure it out, it was impossible. he knew all the important people in moscow better than i talked to them on a regular basis , he had, of course, huge access. and what i heard from him. it seemed to me very, very reasonable. and, uh, until later, when he came to washington, he became the secretary of state's castle, then the secretary's first angolian. i

saw what happened to him, ah, a certain evolution of him under the uh leadership of hillary clinton, so i must admit, honestly. andrey, i couldn’t imagine that he had such a view of russia. i don’t know, that’s nothing from what i heard from him that i read what he wrote. russia did not prepare me for such an assessment. hmm, as a follower of historical materialism, i still adhere to, uh, theses about theo defining consciousness. so it was decided i , uh, had contact with mr. bans a little earlier. about 20 and even a little more than a year ago in the middle east , when he represented the united states in the quartet of so-called mediators, and i worked in egypt at that time, and then and after he gave the impression of an extremely experienced person just experienced in diplomacy. he wrote,

yes absolutely he wrote a very reasonable book in english it's called. i think i have already referred to it, it has been translated into russian . you can read it. it's just a guide to modern diplomacy, but at the same time, at the same time, we see what we see and that there's no getting away from it and uh, we couldn't uh appreciate what that we did not know and could not know. and now, when we know and understand it, and return to the status quo. i think it will be very difficult. yes, just impossible in any case, it must be somewhere far beyond the horizon to look. and this, unfortunately, is impossible. konstantin sivkov is a leading military expert. and when you hear, read, you see everything that is happening with the armament of ukraine, i think that you are probably already tired of repeating. and who and what

promised ukraine on this particular day at this particular hour, and give you a general assessment. as far as you deliveries that have been made up to now. and to what extent, from your point of view, these deliveries? or maybe they can help ukraine to make that the strategic breakthrough she is counting on and which is from ukraine to the spirit of her american curators? this means the deliveries that are currently being made. are they eh? provide only the extension of the life of this mode. these deliveries are not capable of ensuring success on the battlefield for the following reasons. the first number of them is small , not large enough to make such a decisive blow.

tanks are needed. so they put somewhere in total 270,220 tanks 220 tanks. here, and we are for the period of hostilities. destroyed about 2.500. well here's a comparison this time. here, secondly, the nomenclature of deliveries and the possibility of deliveries. here, the most important thing is that they do not ensure success . in principle, for the successful conduct of hostilities on the ground, it is necessary, at a minimum, to achieve operational superiority. this is at least necessary on an unlimited sector of the front, to be able to create a fire superiority to break through the defense of these opportunities are currently not available. they are not capable of those deliveries; they do not provide ; deliveries are not provided, including information support by western american reconnaissance systems and the possibility

of conducting effective military operations to defeat our troops. i give specific examples, referring to the same pegov seed that we have where expensive missiles were sent. rockets, the most valuable storm shadow missiles , are to objects that have no military significance at all. these are two companies. which are produced by civilian products, and , uh, a building that is used in fact, as a dormitory hotel for a navigational school. there were no military installations. i do not leave aside the component, relating to a war crime without persistent war crimes. i'm talking purely from a strategic point of view, the limited composition of the weapon implies a very accurate , carefully, verified use of it on objects that allow you to minimize the potential of the enemy. how

ours works here ukraine claims that this is exactly what they do not do. this is wrong. i say it's not. here. i just like acting, ours, which really achieve a tangible result. here are the strikes on the western region of ukraine with powerful explosion in the warehouse. here is a blow to a complex for you, which makes a hole in the air defense system, and such examples will not be repeated many times. these are missiles that hit specific combat operational targets. here, no combat goal is achieved . why reason is due i explains only one system of operational intelligence. including, which is supplied by a stasny series. the west does not provide sufficiently reliable data for the use of these weapons. here is the fundamental conclusion. and e curators. e from washington a from er, the headquarters on the target is not able to give the necessary information to make

the epics appear. yes, the whole system is not able to give. they do not provide the issuance of target designation of a missile thrown into the wind, an expensive second moment. we have just heard that they are operating in small groups of 2-3 tanks, two or three combat vehicles of 50 people. here they are hitting at different points trying to find a gap to get through. what does this say. this suggests that along the front line they operate along the entire front line, they have a clear idea where advance. no, they are trying to weak points. usually, this so-called reconnaissance is carried out by both not in order to find a weak spot, but only in order to open the enemy’s fire system a few hours before a fire attack. because if they opened the fire system with intelligence and after a few hours there was no strike. we are already changing it. and then all this intelligence fight makes sense to me. this suggests that the

ukrainian intelligence system does not provide an opening of the tactical defense zone of our search, and they these small groups are forced to act in such a way that they do not achieve any result, but at the same time they suffer very heavy losses, this is also said to come and wind up the troops to the consumption of ammunition. and most importantly , expensive military equipment, which is already very small and a plus. in addition, the personnel are also trained, because it is pointless to send an unusual composition to such strikes, it instantly dies. i won't get there. what is the result? so this just indicates that the apu has the opportunity to attack. with in terms of information coverage, a lot. i would like to emphasize one more geopolitical moment, which partly explains the behavior of the berets and all the other uh, gentlemen. the west in general the west and where it goes further and why it will continue to pump weapons into ukraine because there is nowhere to go. uh, i think it's a strong

belief today western elites, not western peoples , western elites are fighting for their survival because losing in ukraine would mean their collapse. best case scenario political death for many and physical. so they need to pull it off as much as possible. it's like hitler at the end of forty-fourth at the beginning of forty -fifth, threw troops into the slaughter for decorations at any cost to delay his own catastrophe, but the german or the german people. how did subsequent history show? the reason is very simple , the west in the form in which it exists in that social system, when it exists , cannot survive in a multipolar world. multipolar world, the west will have to

radically change their entire internal socio-political structure, and this means the collapse of all the elites and in order for these elites to form this system in conditions when the west dominated the planet for several centuries and using cheap resources, in fact, lived at the expense of robberies of other peoples, so they fight fight to the end. it would seem that god himself will start to slaughter all his troops that they have and solve the issue radically here on the fields of ukraine in other places, i state three key things. western firstly, there are no western elites, the idea of ​​\u200b\u200bwar is generally accepted by western peoples. second, they do not have a party of war that would be recognized by the western peoples. thirdly, they don’t have a nation of war that would be ready to fight for all these ideas, and, accordingly, they don’t

have one more thing in either the wafs, or the smarina cry or the wehrmacht that hitler and konstantin had. ah, if you're right, i think that in many ways, even mostly right. if you're right, then this is also directly related. e to the russian military strategy, because if you are right, this means that the military technical and financial capabilities of the west are large, but if it came to a collision that would involve the forces of the west itself, the population of the west itself and the readiness to take blows to withstand them could be very limited on the air playing now with us on skype member of the herd from the alternative party for germany eugene eugene very happy to see you. thanks for taking the time. eugene what happens to the

german chancellor when herr scholz begins his work as chancellor? he sounded like a cautious moderate man who doubted, in general, whether it was worth giving ukraine uh assistance with lethal weapons, and his ukrainian officials frankly insulted him. in general, they spoke very condescendingly about him and about the president of germany. they considered both the president and the concern now. they kind of want to lead a crusade against russia what happened? how to explain the change in their position?

yes, indeed, if you remember scholz, at the beginning of his political career, as a chancellor and now, then these are, of course, two completely different politicians, two different people, with regard to the attitude towards the ukrainian conflict, that is, at the beginning. e, he said that no arms deliveries were envisaged at all, that is, he sounded rather moderately called. uh, to the sides sit down at the negotiating table. uh, find a compromise and so on, now the notorious hawk. e, who is determined to continue the conflict in every possible way. why did this happen? well, apparently, everything lies in the fact that shoyd himself, as a political figure at the international level, is not independent. that there is his entire foreign policy, it is conducted in the fairway. e of the united states of america and in general the block of ropes, and therefore everything that he does. e. and all his actions regarding

the ukrainian conflict, they are dictated precisely from across the ocean. and we have been following this change in his rhetoric in his actions over the course of, uh, all these months. uh, since the day the conflict began. that is, how his worldview changed, how the policy of germany as a whole changed, and this applies, that is, the most striking example, this is with regards to deliveries of tanks, when at first he declared he would not deliver any tanks to any. and now we already see, that is, then how they bowed him, then how what kind of pressure was exerted by both the united states and other members of the nato bloc and now he is already speaking with pride in full, how germany is supplied with modern tanks and not it should be forgotten that germany actually cannot supply tanks, that is, it just takes it and wow. the defense capability of the bundeswehr, which

already suffered from technical under-equipment, but, nevertheless, for the sake of the foreign policy conjuncture for the sake of it. uh, let's say friends across the ocean, the bundeswehr is losing its defense capability for the sake of continuing the conflict in ukraine. that is, you think that the main or only factor in this evolution of the german position in ukraine is an indication from washington. well, quite definitely, because in itself the conflict is in general and the continuation of the conflict and its aggravation by supplies in, uh, they are not not acting in the interests. e germany that is, if we allow all the sanctions that they waged mutually, germany against the russian federation and back. they, uh, hit very painfully, uh, first of all on the german

economy, then, let's say, for the united states, the sanctions turned out to be absolutely painless. that is, we see, uh, and as a result of sanctions, this is a huge inflation and a rise in the cost of energy, that is, we should not forget that after all , for decades, german prosperity has been built on uninterrupted and extensive supplies of energy from the russian federation and when and when these energy sources let's say it ended because of the fact that germany stood up openly was about the western pro-nato position, and in the future, gas pipelines were blown up. uh, and many let's say, uh, indirect evidence indicates that bombings have been carried out. eh, not with the participation of the united states of america or with their approval, then all this fits into the outline, that, let's say, across the ocean. uh,

in charge of german foreign policy. and germany is simply forced to obey is forced to follow. uh, with this indication, because after all, hand on heart, germany is still a country with limited sovereignty. that is, after the second world war, american bases. uh, they were never taken out of germany and we know rammstein and many other basses, on which even now ukrainian military personnel are being trained for yes. further participation in the conflict, that is, after the collapse, uh, that is, after the unification of germany, the ussr revealed its troops, but the united states did not follow this example and germany uh, and then let's say it obeys and acts on orders from across the ocean. fine. i remember the first half of the 80s when

the united states and the german government wanted to respond to some of the actions to modernize russian medium- range missiles wanted to respond. e. deployment in germany of american peach missiles and cruise missiles, which would provide us with the ability to strike, even on moscow with a very short period of placement, then hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people rallied in germany. i was in berlin when there was one of these rallies. everything was filled , everything was filled. now nothing of the kind is observed. this is why because uh economic damage, and for ordinary german citizens so far this situation is not so great, or because there is no feeling, unlike

in the early eighties, that this escalation of tension can be directly related to germany and may even turn into very serious military consequences for it . what's the matter? but one should not, uh, take it out of brackets that between these two dates today and the eighties lies a whole epoch, that is, 40 years, then yes, germany that was then or those people who inhabit that germany now are theirs simply no. now a completely different population. uh, with a slightly different mentality , each one is brought up differently, and uh, we should not, let's say, downplay the role of the media , the role of the media, which is now used to the fullest here in germany as a means of propaganda. that is, i remember when it started at the beginning of the conflict, how here, uh, they played 24 hours

a day, let's say, tearful videos about how bad russia is, that is, and how to support ukraine and still. here is this one. uh, let's just say the intensity of the emotional he is, of course, he waned due to the fact that in general, uh, let's say, interest in ukraine is fading, but nonetheless. this e heat is propaganda. it can be traced very clearly and people simply believe that, uh, in the central media, uh , it is presented therefore, therefore, there are few, let's say, such protest moods, but again they exist, that is, one cannot speak. so the germans don't protest, uh, and there are protests, there are regular demonstrations. eh, of course, not enough now. uh, compared to those events of the eighties, but nonetheless less. eh, getting stronger. this is the discontent in

society. this is felt and is felt by the fall of uh, in uh in general among the electors of uh, the ruling parties. that is, if we look at the latest ratings, then the ruling coalition is in the lowest position, even if we judge artik what's in the latest for the latest questions? we even overtook, overtook the ruling party of social democrats and came in second place. that is, all this indicates that discontent exists. just uh, people people, no matter how they got used to it over the years a full life to take to the streets, but perhaps they will soon have to. get used to these new circumstances and act more, but actively and go out and defend your rights eugene many thanks. thanks for taking the time. i hope to see you again in the near future on our program. thank you all the best, sir, go, and

at this time at this time increasingly they are talking about the potential role of china in resolving the conflict over ukraine, they say that a chinese high-ranking official will arrive in moscow before the end of the month diplomat, former ambassador to moscow who was appointed to mediate these negotiations, that before that he should visit ukraine, european countries. how serious is this and what can it lead to? well, this, in principle, cannot be frivolous - this is the answer to your first question. but what could this lead to? eh, here's the definite answer, of course. it is very difficult to give. one can only express some hope. yes, and besides, they are quite weak. as a matter of fact, the mediation mission sent has already begun. he already left yesterday. and today he is works ahead of him at least.

and the european capitals warsaw berlin and paris and moscow will be interesting , of course, to listen to his impression of what is happening, he began as you can see from ukraine well, apparently in order to as they say go from uh, the most difficult step by step, maybe to something groping just groping for some. uh, constructive options that sometime in some future may lead. well, let's just say , at least uh, outline something, like light, at the end of the tunnel, for now, and more is out of the question, uh whether it was a very experienced diplomat who went. you know, i personally know him. well, if you think so, then 35 years old, we somehow considered him. how many years have we known each other? he then worked as a young diplomat here in moscow in the chinese embassy. he speaks russian, he is generally a northerner from a small town near harbin. so even our cold is quite familiar to him. went in chinese yes, more broadly, a big envoy, and special envoy what are we now is a special envoy. and

for example, an angel will be a shadow. excuse me for this chinese lesson i.e. heavenly messenger. i would like, uh, his mission as a special representative to be as successful as his mission as an ambassador, by the way, not only in moscow before that. he was the ambassador of kazakhstan and there he proved to be quite bright and now his kazakh colleagues remember with the kindest words, uh, but i would like to repeat once again what he will do. it's still complete. well, what is called terra incognito is completely incomprehensible. and why because the scatter is too great positions of the parties is good for us. known. i won't talk about it if you 'll let me, uh, let me in advance. i would draw attention to the 12-point plan put forward by china, that is, the proposal with which

, in fact, the ambassador or special representatives went, uh, in turn , a difficult trip to european capitals there, uh, i remind you that this plan was put forward this name of the chairman was issued with this pin exactly on february 24 of this year, the date was not chosen by chance and it contains 12 points, which are so if it prints in a4 format fit. well, somewhere, probably, in one and a half pages of text. it is by no means any. a large document, it is quite uh, compact uh, and somehow i have never heard of it. uh, nothing but a general assessment at first they talked about, well, our westerners, let's say so. uh, vis-a-vis that this is generally no good. this is a pro-russian document. it can’t lie in any way, generally the basis of any conversations and so on, then the position was slightly corrected, especially after the trip of the macron, it turned out that it wasn’t, you can even combine somehow ukrainian leaders. well, not zelensky himself

is lower there. e levels said that there are some positives in this document. uh, positive moments well, it's good. this is already some kind of progress. why because what is valid in this document? it's probably the only one currently available that is more or less responsible. eh, the very essence of mediation and outlines something. maybe it's, uh, a little zavy. evaluation, but something like a roadmap, i repeat, there are 12 points . the first three are of key importance. e, in first paragraph. it is called respect for the sovereignty of all countries, by the way, for all countries, that means our country too, because we have our own ideas about our sovereignty and we insistently demand that it be respected too. china is well aware of this more than, of course. uh, it contains such

, you know, diplomatic, i would say verbal subtleties. well, for example, it talks about respect for the sovereignty of all countries , regardless of whether it is big or small, not russia or ukraine, the largest european country. by at least in the parameters that were before all the events that took place , you can’t attribute it to small countries, which means that this is a definite reference to those who violated and are violating the immunity of small countries. this first short paragraph ends. e, that is , that international law must be respected and must be, and equal and uniform uniform, and, as it says, double standards should be rejected precisely this strict term. i am quoting from the english text. there, the words this lever are used, that is, the rejected second

paragraph from er, 12 it is called to get rid of the mentality of the cold war , the name itself speaks for itself and it says that the security of one country. this is the first sentence in this paragraph. cannot be achieved at the expense of the security of other countries and the next literally phrase. he says i'm quoting almost verbatim. i carefully studied this document both in chinese and in english, well, of course, in - and it also says there. uh, literally the next unacceptable creation. uh, it is unacceptable to ensure the region's security through expansion, expansion and increased stress of regional military blocs, military, blog, well, it's clear, as they say, what is at stake here. uh, it's called the third paragraph. yes, we have to

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