uh, yes, she came after the circus, when they saw him in the circus, and, uh, someone appreciated it. by the way, it’s funny that levko lezhanov, when he invited him to act, she was big, he hadn’t seen him in the movies before. he saw. still. this is a directors clown open. uh, herman well, it was later, it was already possible with joy, but still invite a clown to such a dramatic role and even imagine how you need to feel a person. well, this is that everything is from god well, my mother also says this by chance and came to the circus work. uh, not only just got married practically, but your mom was built boys and you had to come up with some number there needed a boy suggested it even. nick, because they started

rehearsing and took a boy from a circus family, also already a little acrobat, but the boy was already prepared. at the very first rehearsal, she broke her arm, she says, of course, i didn’t obey. dad and mom are from him , of course, but you need to rehearse on the same group to release and someone says. so it's so take it she burns. well, she will cut her pigtails boy. so i thought, why not? i took a vacation for 2 weeks and went to kratovo to my aunt every morning. mom went to the forest, father and cones, laid out coins of 13 m. and i rehearsed there. and when it seemed like it was already starting to turn out, they came to moscow and they showed it and the director says, but what, in general, it may well be that she had not been expelled by this time. she learned to cut, like the academy of ornamental horticulture and so on the minister of agriculture. lysenko reduced the faculty. he said that in the soviet union such a bourgeoisie is not needed, yes. well

mother, as it were, remained. i was offered some other faculties to translate there. well , i didn’t really want something, but here it’s like life turns. she came to your mother did not immediately understand your relatives. eh yes. that's when she chose dad, i remember the first time i mentioned, and yure in a conversation with my mom. and aunts know, i met one person, he is an artist, in which theater he plays, he performs not in the theater, and in the circus he is a clown silence reigned relatives looked at me with pity in childhood. i've been to the circus. cautiously, my aunt began to remember how the clown was given for cracks and with a cry. oh, he fell face down in the sawdust. a month later, i still persuaded my family to meet yura, he came to our house, and everything was settled right away. he is also an educated and intelligent person. well, how right is it? how important is it to listen to your heart? and yes, my mom was wrong.

tell me, please, about your friends. dad was friends with the front-line soldiers, yes , his comrades, or was it more that firstly, everyone lived very well, in my opinion, no one in moscow even lived a lot lived in leningrad and here they are comrades have them very honest communication. this i know, this may not be friendship. but it can be even more than friendship, and they always honestly met and met honestly, when they worked in leningrad, there were always comrades with whom i didn’t even make friends after the war, and even during the war. well, just comrades and comrades. e happened. so they needed an apartment, because there was nowhere to live, after all, and here i went and brought an apartment for him. he had a fight, you understand, that's why they are not comrades. no, friends. this is what is called a common word. brotherhood phantom is there its own laws, their relationships, which are in such human friendship. uh, daily, and if you take workshops, and

cinema and the circus, for example, then my father had three friends. not related to the circus or to the rematographer on a large level, there were a huge number of fellow comrades, there were excellent relations. it was possible to go and take a visit to sit for a drink there in time for something, but friendship as such, there were three people. this is his front-line friend, who was at my wedding. e witness met there in addition to a sister, a year later they got married and began to live as people. this is the founder. e our soviet e, ken documentary has a phantom cameraman, a terrific product for a person and semyonovich the artist is all practically nikulin's posters, what is his author's work? plet was a wonderful companion company

man around the house, sometimes his father came to him after work, because they lived on the fourth floor, and we were on the tenth and the transcendent had to be pulled out by his father. uh, my mother sent me, she says, the ideas of the kite, nicole rebuffed, otherwise they are there until the morning. i have visiting director of the circus on tsvetnoy boulevard maxim nikulin and we continue the conversation. you know one thing. it doesn’t fit in my head, so to speak , intrigue in our community is our everything. yes, everyone gossips about each other even in soviet times before the yellow press appeared. we wanted all sorts of rumors about pencils, that we won’t talk about him so evil , yes, but about oleg and always in superlatives with delight about your dad, here with all this popularity, and he was filming all the time with such exalted beautiful artists and with my mother lived for 56 years. yes, and also

no rumors, no novels on the side. that's how such fidelity got married and didn't stick, you know. and you know what touched that your mom and dad never confessed. you know these kisses in public and so on. well, for example, dad , passing by, could pat mom on the head or somehow here you are, of course, i ’ll even read it right now, because, well, this is what it is to tears. in my feelings, i never told him, just like he told me, we haven’t talked much lately at all. in every case, she is a topic that is not related to the circus , but what she talks about. after so many years together, i just loved passing by yura, who was sitting at some regular solitaire game, to kiss his bald head, and at the same time he did not even raise his head. he just smiled and that was enough for us to say without words, we are still happy together, passionately, we love each other, you are a happy person. here you are

a happy person. woz should still be enough right for 15 generations of your happiness, and this love for your children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. rather, four granddaughters and a grandson, therefore, i consider myself a happy person. of course, i know that dad never raised his voice at you. his only curse was. what is the most if he really wanted to punish me with a word, yes, then he says what are you doing to me? what an obedient good boy. no, as i understand it, because he talked about his school childhood. there for years it was impossible to call him obedient; he studied very well. and mom stood up for him. yurochka. bad memory. that's how she excused me by saying, on ours, it's me too also after all, no one really forced. yes , they cursed me, that it was difficult to sit down and learn laziness

, yes, not people. in general, in a good way, of course, my grandmother was my mother's mother, maria petrovna, of course, she took a sip from me. it's so embarrassing now. i was far from the most obedient son and grandson, and their parents were not. they were on tour, they came for a month or two maximum in moscow and then they could be with me in some way to educate me to love and so on, i also toured all the time. and my diesel. now he presents me, of course so i always say, and where would you live, what would you eat? that's my job, but you have that's why you got an education. but the daughters also say the son. well, this kind of work, too, you are not in tune with your grandmother, astana remained, that my grandmother had an advantage, because if there were no grandmother and a room

in moscow, uh, there i would have been dragged along with me to these last apartments, i’ll talk there by dressing rooms. i grew up completely different. i went on tour with him for almost all 50 years of our marriage except for. except that the first years of the life of his son maxim for several years. i was sitting at home with a child, i remember how yura and i flew in after a six-month tour in the usa and canada and a three-year-old maksyushka. greeted us. hello uncle. yura was terribly upset. yes, my own son went and forgot me, tell me. yes well, this is a strange thing. i remember now, i never had such a thing, you know, resentment, an abandoned child, probably, their great love was so great and it felt that the letters were described. they made phone calls. later they even became. call abroad. and only today realize that it was worth they lived. we were somewhere nearby, uh, around me in me, so loneliness was somehow everyone loves

when bags of letters to your dad, and of all, although it is to communicate with him and everyone wants his attention. and you are small. and you are a teenager, and dad has such popularity, well, which does not fit, in general, in the universe, so uh, you didn’t have such boyish jealousy, no, you didn’t. later, for a short time, there was an unconscious feeling of resentment, and precisely for the fact that and the same infinitely something for someone did. yes, that's something someone always helped achieve, yes, he had enough for himself for him and his mother, we are quite modest, if there was already, this great trinity was already impossible popularity. and you continued to live in a communal apartment and in two rooms you didn’t have an apartment for everyone, but you don’t have a separate apartment. this is also accidental, because someone came to you to ask the lieutenant-colonel of the chairman to do this. the executive committee

looked around and said in a whisper, more precisely, an idiot. father there was really good. i missed this for several years, some completely holy wonderful communal apartment. almost all of our relatives were there. we lived as one big family. we hung a sign on the door of volkovskaya citizens everything. mom's relatives are already all a front-line friend who lived stopped by his sister and their parents, their children, then grandchildren, well, we are there together, as if brother and sister, they are my brother and sister, although not second cousins, but we lived in the same room , of course, well, i had some such nikolai. what is an insult? but

you don’t know that she says something, and then i realized it’s not because she doesn’t love me. and from the fact that i am there all the time, and this can be done at any moment, and this fifteenth thirty-second needs help now that it will be late, this is medicine, this is surgery in the hospital, doctors and apartments are registered. at some point, we called our soviet power. here you will be quite young there. the boy understood that not all people are conscientious, that dad deceives many. well, in particular, they wrote letters to him help and help everyone. and you said they are cheating on you. well, obviously dad answered, what if not. and what if the truth is trouble there, well, and suddenly they are already working more than a little while, when i constantly have these applicants, it means, if here, and everyone has the same thing there children go ahead there on the air uh ourselves we money was stolen from tashkent, the passport was lost, but this is only

one scheme. well, they were there to increase the happy ones together. i tell her, look, well, it's not about the money. fuck money with them, it's understandable there, but here they are now go and think to themselves, how cool we got divorced. not a kulin. what a no goof. that's not offensive to you, but he was clear. so how to sit like this. the enemy sat and sat and they say boy. what if it's true, my gold and i immediately have all my arguments. holy dried up here is just an angel. but it is true that in the nineties, when in general there was nothing for people to eat, and in the circus , these poor animals had nothing to feed. starved that your dad came to the chairman of ministers and said that if you do not highlight money for ah, food for the animals, then i have them all. i'll bring it here. eh, you know how his speeches at some extraordinary session, when it

was decided to sell meat at commercial prices, including the church , let's fire him, this next one works. and my father went there, and he shot his performance so professionally and masterfully that no one was ready. nikulin came, everyone loves him. everyone respects him. he came to the podium, told a couple of jokes, as usual, he started with this. here is your memory, yurka, is bad jokes. do you remember? well, here it is somehow. here is a very smooth softly imperceptibly with humor switched to direct threats. when he said that gorbachev was sitting there on the podium, popov said the second one was the mayor, and then he said that if you don’t lower the prices for uh animal feed , we will collect these cages and bring them constantly. and if it doesn't work then, then we'll open the tiles. and the people somehow immediately took the rooster,

because they realized that, of course, he was joking, but not quite. and the fact that my father knocked out money for new circuses, when everything was just in general and also not up to the church, not up to anything. simply, yes, this is a man, he alone remained on the site of this group created, which went there and as long as they were there in a circle, each time some folk artists lowered them, who had no other choice, and he went for the last time. this is nikolai shershnyakov. for example, the minister and so on, who telepred him, and we were all waiting for the results of the temporary directorate on petrovsky boulevard church then. and then he came, nikulin settled down, he just took off his hat and put it down and sits and we all sit. that's how it withstood the good air, even the larger one of the democrats, then he raised his eyes , so he began to be silent, signed, and then they generally ran to the grocery stores with jubilation. this last minute worked at the circus. yes, of course

, listen, it works when the artists say work, they say, they played theatrical, they say we played a circus performance, they say the mat works quite significantly. this is more more responsibility, of course there is a risk. if the risk and you hold in your hands the life of a partner in the lounge in your shoulders in your hands in the castle, where you are responsible for it, so 10 circus grows a little different. they mature earlier, because they acquire this sense of responsibility of the dynasty, such as those of the circus. yes, well, in general, yes. there is no such relationship as your mother, who was forced to first do one number with dad, and then so 50 years old and e-boku comes to in principle, even to uh absurdity, sometimes the cases were really completely group. uh, the number of air ropes is high rope, and there, as usual, family-based families. there

family, she overgrows the children of the daughter-in-law there, well, yes, and uh at some point uh, dad and son, and dad look at the founder, as if the numbers, and the children continue to work all together. dad and son quarreled so that they quarreled so much. i don't know the reason and no one remembers that until the end of my father's life. they didn't talk. they corresponded through their mother. oh, what they went out every evening to beckon each other insured. because they are different things. it's a circus that works. you became the director of the circus after dad left, yes, yes, a how are you, in fact, clowns and not very kind people, well, by and large. e your father - this is an exception of some kind of angel who flew in to show how humanly it can be, how you have not been eaten all these years. i think the conservation instinct kicked in because uh was offered to me as

a. i have been working as a distributor director for 3 years now and it was easier for me because i came into my own world. i grew up there, uh, but i came from another world, and i have never lived in this world, actually insurance and with me there were no enemies, no lovers, no people who should not, which i should, that is, i came without tails. as if from a clean slate , and this is a lot of no one has ever been incited. no, well, i didn’t work in the circus, you are not a circus, therefore, yes, not as an employee, but it helped me a lot and i was supported by my colleagues in the directorate, who offered me as a general director, understanding perfectly. uh, as it were, a commercial component of this story, because well, really, i’m with you nikulin’s line and with whose father just was, what did you do for the church much easier than you and i, but asked

your dad, although it’s not scary to bring your son and dad, as he answered brilliantly. and what should i plant a heavy son? well, me, too. so he gave birth a little more this year. maybe i just didn't think about it. and then i realized, yes, probably, he did not glue such a breed to the soul. here no one sticks to you, neither to your father nor to you. not hoping for your children. yes , we had some humanoids not so long ago, shortly before the beginning of this species. uh, a man has passed away the presser noticed him back in the eighties, our novelists every year on the thirty- first of december he came with his wife to church in the evening performance. someone was supported by the administration and it turned out that he married more than young, uh, december 31, forty- two. and, uh, he invited his young wife to the circus, and in the morning he would go to the front near moscow

, and he told her that you know if i return or promise that every year on december 31 we will go to church with you. and every year they came when we found out about it, we met with him and made him free tickets. well, this is purely dad. yes , it was interesting, and he came for the last time. he came already, on the right, they gave him grandchildren to lie down easily; there was a person there who was 15 12 15. well, not so long ago he did not become. and all this, as it were, ended, everything is clear about you, about your family. thank you i would sit with you until the morning. and i just look at you in happiness, you have this blood. it's just that this person is your angel to me, dad, so thank you so much. i congratulate you on victory day such happiness that you are talking with such a pure soul about the need

to preserve this memory, you need to bear it , you must tell your children and grandchildren about it so that they never forget. thank you very much. good evening, dear friends. this is a free program podcast. i'm maxim tankov and today we have not one, but two special guests, these are olympic champions, students of alexander zhulin, victoria sinitsyna and nikita katsapapov guys, hi i'm very glad to see you in our cozy studio. well, my first question is probably the most banal for both you and for me. i think that this should simply be an exchange of experience on how to combine family life and work. well, i can tell you right away that i took it from you partly, because in fact it is not so, just so much

training. it's very hard and you're always together in training on ice at competitions. uh mood something does not work. well, and you come home, and of course. you can't do that, that's all. you ice is over, training is over. it is necessary well , in general, let's move on to another topic anyway, it is not transferred one way or another, well, purely. i can to say here just uh, vika and i decided that for now we are skating. well, you need to. to share directly to share this as much as possible, we rented a house and lived in different apartments. here's the weekend, if uh we wanted to, uh, seriously no kidding, sometimes we wanted to take a break from each other, because there is a lot of it all, and we spent together there together. e. well, one of us has a problem at home. it’s either

a day off together or separately, on the contrary, that is, we alternated everything, as you feel, and they do it in advance , we agreed that we try not to endure. eh, absolutely right. yes, that is , er, well, in principle, you put up with it even faster than possible. perhaps there is. yes, something happens on the ice, then you go out. well, as it were, well, it's there, yes, learn to smooth. yes, yes, you are trying to perceive it somehow differently already vic when you first appeared in our team as part of another pair with ruslan zhiganochny. well, of course, i’ll tell you a secret that in the men’s locker room they often discussed such a beautiful , spectacular young girl as victoria sinitsyna , but at the same time, you were so impregnable. it was hard for nikita to win your heart. no, because anyway. this age has come up already, when you are there 18 years old to 18 years old. i really was. eh, on my own

. they even called me such dima for some reason, because i kind of communicated with everyone, but this was not now not for me, but when i started talking, close to nikita , i just felt that this was my person and how this person was in itself begins to open up to relax and open up to him for you it was a surprise proposal that nikita did exactly what it was to you that day. yes, it was a real surprise, because i didn’t know exactly what it would be now, and we were so relaxed all day long. everything was cool mood and everyone was resting. we were sunbathing here, of course, i didn’t expect that it would be right now nikita and when i decided to take this serious step, i was very worried and until the last i had these if they were right now right now it was easy for you to make an offer. can you worry

during the day, in general, i did not have figured out how it should be. i provided in this and the only thing i knew. i want it to be on vacation. and where it is beautiful and water and at about what moment i want it. uh, because i was like there for a week. we have already been there. i already looked. what time of day is the most romantic? well, roll it up, like, and this is the only thing i knew and on what day, how it should be, i was nervous, walked very much and did not understand how you just take it now and come up, and your life everything has changed, as it should be. what happened to you be, what will happen to us at all, but no , in fact, i'm here we were on vacation together, e word frosty to my student and my friend well, yes, that's a rude word, roughly speaking. what are you afraid of? yes, apparently, that's why

he still hasn't. yes, go already, the ring has not forgotten the ring, most importantly, in the room. everything go. i just thank you. thanks to the brothers for the advice , some part of my life flew through my head , i imagined what i should say now, i didn’t memorize anything, not a single word, i didn’t cook at all. here is not a single one, at all. i i just went, and she was sitting with a friend, and i took her hand and said, let's go for a walk. so he just started to improvise something to say. and it seems like. eh, hike, i understood that it turns out. well, it's good that everything seems to be working out. so everything goes smoothly, and there i had a place, especially. here, while we're talking. eh, and now they need to get there, they had to get there. and that's when we got there and i turned around. this very nervous moment was the most, that is, you don’t need to kneel. right wrong well, i sat down on my knee. accordingly, everything is beautiful and well, the answer

is fast enough. here's how it is in my personal opinion. here it is you will wait for the answer. here's how her reaction will be. here, i had a fairly quick reaction and the reaction is completely, how satisfies you, like a man who is waiting for reciprocity answers. i mean , i was really, really happy. this is the moment of these emotions. similar to when you finished the free skate at the olympics, of course. these are completely different things. never even in my life compared them to my head. it’s just that i don’t want to do this, in principle, really. this is life and life in sports on ice. there's blood under the tears. here i wanted more of some kind of romance and happiness from love for a person. i very often say that the relationship e in a pair in the work interferes, but at the same time, when you skate together in a relationship in competitions. it doesn't matter, even sometimes in training when you have that inspiration. it seems to me that two people who do not love each other cannot

show this chemistry. that is, after all, sports intersects. it's probably comparable. you are right. there are, uh, 1.000 plus even the most banal ones, when at competitions, uh, you don’t well, i ’m a dancer skating in pairs, roughly speaking, a team player just like you, i think, and here i personally was at competitions i don't give a damn who's around, because i have vika and i'm with her all our experiences. well, that's it, i share everything with her 100% for me in the same way, because for me it is very important in general to talk to someone to share. ah here is emotions especially before competitions. i i don't like being silent. that's the truth and take my hand , it calms me to look into the eyes, which now calm me too, i love it very much. and it is important for me just that the person is really with me. let's go back to your families for a bit. because for me it is approximately clear why nikita ended up in

figure skating, because his mother is a wonderful children's coach. eh, even if she did not train. but she, as a coach , gave you some advice that you especially listened to. she e was near and is near for. all the time. she is even now what we do, for example, in shows or on tours. eh, when she comes there now calmly without stress to look at the stands, and then there is always feedback from her, either it’s bad, or the guys need it, no matter how high the level is, if you skate the olympic program, you need to skate it too , like at the olympics, otherwise you can’t skate it. it is not necessary, that is, she is always in the subject, she always likes it. i really appreciate any advice from her. this is the most sincere and honest person. she taught me how to ride like no one else has ever skated. here in the younger group, when i was a single skater, it didn’t work out, maybe because it wasn’t just that they didn’t just let my parents go to training. and now the fist just crawled out, you know, from the crack. well,

a click on the door. my parents didn't let me out of there. here's the fist and that's it. that was your main motivator. vika, your parents were demanding in sports. they were demanding at the same time, but at the same time they listened to me very much, they always listened, and dad advised, in general , such an approach was very correct, he helped me just somehow, he helped me to study, helped to stretch. here he stretched it from me. even though she didn't want to. there were tears, there were other emotions. well, it was still very much like that, but somehow with the soul, that is, they always listened to me and knew exactly what i needed in the 2014 olympic games in sochi, you performed in different compositions. uh, nikita skated with elena other and became a bronze medalist in the individual

championship and olympic champions in the team. you were young, promising, paired with ruslan zhigashin, but after that you decided to stand in the spotlight. and it was not the easiest moment in your life, not only because you broke up with your previous partners, with whom you had spent your whole life since childhood, but also because there were a lot of attacks from press fans who called you traitors. how did you succeed afterwards? here are these meetings at the competitions of this respect for the public to pass? well, here i am, stas, much older and 10 times more experienced, i can say that i'm just i spent a lot of time reading nonsense. this is all reading the comments and later refused to tell. everything is in the snot. how is it uh just gave up on social media altogether. and i still can't

get used to it after that moment. and i was shocked. i read so much about myself in general, as if i were the worst person in general on the planet. that is, i don’t go in for sports now and i see that i have my own vision, and or there are some reasons why this happened and why i want to do it, and achieve no less success, just to achieve, gritting my teeth through all the difficulties, and because of this, i don’t get at all what i don’t get there, uh, some good feedback there , or just some kind of banal support there. i get so much for it. manure is just like i'm doing something terrible, really. i personally suffered a lot. i don't know, i've shared. i can't even tell. did i share with you those moments there. uh, what i feel when i read, and i read really all sorts of different things. the first year was really hard. and vika how are you through

was it walking? you saw you read the homeowner that they just didn’t write. ah, they wrote in private messages, they just wrote in sms to the phone where did they take it? i don’t know the number, they wrote offensive words, they wrote terrible things that i bought, that my dad bought there, in short. well, it's just that i laughed at first, but then you sort of read more and in reality. here you start. well, to believe that i, too, refused all social networks. i just, probably, for a month for three or four, i didn’t go everywhere, i just studied. it was a matter of business and the first year was, of course, hellishly difficult, and especially there were very difficult first competitions, when we left, for the first time we came to moscow for the grand prix. i will never forget this at luzhniki. we and we got the grand prix together with lena ruslan and we came out in

the same warm-up. and when we went out on the ice, we were just whistling all over the hall. it was just the next question. yes, it was tin. and now i have no other word. it was very hard for me. i was shocked that well, people are so angry, so not well, they don’t respect a person’s life anyway. yes then that he is doing some work and in general his dream, for example, well, it was really hard and the parents who were sitting on the podium at the back. sat there. friends with whom i used to skate spoke, and they sat and did it. well, it was really hard. well later. i just realized that all this time these people. hey, who wrote there? uh, well, bad comments are bad words, sometimes very offensive hurtful. they just really fueled the interest. well, well

, seriously very often when there is either an artist or an actor or a singer or an athlete? well there is a hate wave. and it’s also like, uh, some kind of push, what they say about you, just. well, the only thing, of course, depends on what direction you are moving in. it was really hard to get over it, but we did it. this is a free program podcast. i am maxim tronkov and my guests today are olympic champions victoria sinitsyna nikita kalapov. vika, did you ever allow the thought that it was in vain and maybe nothing would work out. there has never been fear. but fear is something else. that is for me it is the fear of failure. no, well, that's different. that is, when you go out, of course, if you are not very ready there, physically or something else, there is, of course, such. what can you possibly do wrong there? or mess up there, but

it's fear, uh, or is there something there, so there's a reason for it? i did this never happened. that is, i am sure, always in my decision, and i always have goals. i always try to achieve it in all ways, that is, i will grit my teeth, work to achieve, no matter what, uh, do not give up, that is, really like that. yes, even more than these are sometimes needed, and in everyday life, in ordinary life , it’s also so stubborn, well, in a good way, in fact, and well, it seems, the wife is a champion. this, apparently, is all the same to the end. it’s just to clarify questions right here, rightness is defended to the last, even if this is not required, in general, no one told you anything, anyway always defend. yes, we have this,

you noticed later. how could you turn this uh attitude towards yourself, of course, with every ah competition with everyone, ah, in the afternoon, nikita and i seem to, well, we rallied even more, that is, some unpleasant moments pass. some. mm, ups and downs - it was so connected and made it possible to move forward. well , somehow it got better, even therefore it’s not in vain that they say that they somehow fall, then you get up again and rise even higher. i’ll add that, of course, it was also important for us to prove all this ourselves. that's really the thing, really the results are great loud results and the only way you yourself are satisfied and now e us 1.000 wonderful fans who

follow us, watch what we do and give wonderful gifts. and we are very grateful if you thought, nikita, i am most interested in this answer from you when you won the world championship like this, that is, this is another year before the olympic games, and about those people who told you that you would not succeed. naturally with teeth and with a sly smile in general and i was always super very happy. well, here's to prove this, for me it's some kind of huge, unreal. just like when they whistled here. arena some of these people that i am alone against you now have such a feeling, and for me it’s not that the game is life big sport, but for me it’s some kind of obvious. um, well, i don't know, some sort of

mission accomplished. you know, some small from and from this game, and i felt satisfied, and also because i proved to such people who do not respect, did not respect you or still do not respect you. you already did them. i made mine. sorry, 8 years of your triumph have passed since 2014. here this way these 8 years, if it was worth rewinding back. but it was 100% worth it, it was a super super bright colorful segment in life , which, well, is priceless, it's just some kind of just a film of several parts, you know, i like how you once said that you once found it. i asked you a question during the ice show and you said you uh thanked vika for this roller coaster. i think this is the coolest comparison ever. i said so. yes, i remember exactly. this is

the expression. you on the very first day you held hands, you realized that it’s all these roller coasters that we talked about and that’s all, it didn’t work for a very long time, nothing happens, i listen, and it’s like i ’m telling myself. three, probably, that's two or three years, we just didn't understand how you work day and night. even on a day off there, nothing happens. it gets better, right? rolling down, understandable, but this is not what you expect. you still go in different directions, roughly speaking, you don’t even need to find fault with this in terms of technical. you you just don’t feel that it’s a whole and it doesn’t work out and mistakes a bunch of nerves, a bunch and at competitions you can’t get used to the fact that the sochi olympics just happened and everything was so bright, and now you are a different couple and no one is watching at all that

you performed there, uh, with another partner, and there , both in personal and in the team, you had a good result. it's all over again. and it's also hard to accept. although this is the easiest of what was and therefore and until the moment when there was a turning point in that year when we didn’t uh went to the olympic games in kinchany. it's just that this was the starting point, only upwards, or that's all. and this is some kind of. ah, planetary mystery. here, it really settled down when we came to the scammer. i even myself at this moment in the first year when you came to zhulin, i don’t remember much, as if there were some echoes of what was that was what interfered. maybe, maybe, in my character, maybe in skating in ours there, i’ll interrupt you, firstly, you already skated with zhulin. before. yes, yes, you already spent all his junior years with sasha and became world champion became world champion, then you

moved to the group with nikolai morozov yes and this departure from zhulin, then a forced return to him. how did you even manage? it's like you, remember this conversation, in general with sasha sasha and i want to go back to you, of course, he did not come to the first conversation of the local came. uh, pyotr vyacheslavovich durnev pyotr durnev is a wonderful coach. a technical specialist and with the team of alexander zhulin so, uh, he asked me tricky questions. eh, are you sure? yes that we can train together at all? well, where is zhulin with aleksandrovich, uh, we met the next day, in my opinion, well, it doesn’t matter already there on another day. we met. he just said, guys, come on, i'm waiting for you for training, we'll see. here we have a wonderful team. come and work i will be glad. that is. he immediately buried these grievances. we did not have a single conversation on this topic, in general

, alexander zhulin is known primarily for the fact that tatiana was brought up in karmannaya kostomarov. these comparisons began, what vika looks like very strong pull. nikita becomes like roma how was that comparison for you and did you want to be like the champions a wonderful comparison much better than we were compared when we paired up with vika so uh, only honor uh. well, what can i say in wikistan? here, uh, there is really just a banal resemblance to the hair color of the figure, they are tall beautiful blondes. uh, i know that one of the dresses in this insider info was made in tannin patterns for you and zhulin. he told me that he couldn't do it to anyone. to offer, because it didn't suit anyone. she just sat you down like it was done

for you. yes, it is, and moreover, it was an olympic dress for a free program a and and it was so fleeting. let's. well, try it, just try it, and we attached it like that, i tried it on. really looks very cool. and i really liked it. most importantly, that is, i am still such a person that if i don’t like it, i won’t go out in this, in general i breathed in you. it's some kind of confidence. we are still sovereign little sports people. now, if she won the olympics, i also didn’t have it at all. that is, the most important thing for me is just to make me feel confident that i liked you our olympic year with tatiana, we skated and consulate the superstar of a reasonable program. we had a white dress all season. and we needed to change something. we didn’t succeed in any way and tanya undertook to make herself a yellow dress, in which she also said she obviously felt more confident and went out and did everything, really. well , it might be subconscious. a maybe it just gives confidence. i don't

know how it works. well, for those who have just joined us. i remind you that this is a free program podcast. i am maxim tarankov and my today's interlocutors, olympic champions victoria sinitsyna and nikita katsapov, you had, maybe some role models in sports in your ice dancing, who would you like to be equal to, who did you look at thought yes. that's cool. and it would be nice to get closer. or maybe surpass. i can now name at least three couples. behind all my life in figure skating i have been following at least three exactly and even specific programs that inspired me in general and inspired me and which i reviewed some important periods of time there. uh, but the closer it got to these olympic games. well, 2 years, 3 years. i realized that here you need

to concentrate so much on yourself, so look at yourself to improve yourself. uh, every move you make, it just falls out by itself. here at this level, maybe just already old, that is, on the petals games. i was already 30 years old and maybe somehow because of this it affected, but there up to twenty-two here at the olympic games in sochi , of course, when you share the ice with tessa, and scott and world champions already then with charlie and with meryl. eh, which is less? i have some kind of idols there, probably, like for you, maybe yes, cattle are paths and yet it’s just kind of, ghostly for me there were people that i looked at and strove to be a partner like cattle. and this is wow then for you for yourself this is your motivator, right here and now plus even when you personally know these people, you inspired me very much.

well, these are our mutual friends, only i am older and i generally grew up with them from juniors, and in one of the conversations the cattle told me that nikita is generally, like, the best partner in the world now, but he lacks discipline. i think that the discipline that, for example, scott could say, because we still know very little closely. uh, i got her here with the arrival, uh, k- to alexander zhulin and to our coach. and so, as i said. i just need to repeat myself. that's when everything is stacked. nilos, this is an internal discipline , some kind of internal calm, and er. a completely new skill for me is the normal absolutely reacting to mistakes to what you can’t do, what i never allow myself. well, i could never allow it in my life. i am, well, no mistake can happen. and if you're riding the whole program in training, if something went wrong, well, it's uh you

more. well, if this is, say, a program for 4 minutes and something happened in the first minute. well, you need to roll in your head, everything should always be a perfect skate or there is a perfect executed bunch. what a mistake, there shouldn't be any mistakes at all, and the point is. to if it doesn't matter what happened to go further even better than it was even just and not to well, everyone forgot or thought at home. damn how cool. now, how great, he knows even more, tensed up even more inspired and let's go. they are even prettier than before. until then, despite this error. and the judge is also human. it seems to me, uh, if, of course, this is not the element that you failed. and if it can be some other things, and maybe he won't even see it. nobody that some mistake. there was and will forgive many things. and this is very important, it was

actually, as it seems to me, now that if it had come earlier, maybe some result would have been earlier. this is for me personally. it was very important vic what is zhulin's magic why is the number one coach in ice dancing in the post-soviet space throughout this bar is kept throughout since 2006. i think it all depends on the fact that he feels his athlete very well. this is very important for a coach. and this is located athletes, too, to the coach. that is, we could approach alexandrovich with anything. they could tell us what we feel, how hard it is for us, or vice versa, that we feel so cool awesome. let's have more, that is. he adapted to us so much, he did not press very hard, but at the same time he kept him from relaxing. i think it's very important

just for the coach. and this helped us, apparently, and psychologically, he also never pressed. he's always like that, everything will be fine, everything will be fine. well, he never drove us somewhere or hurried us. everything is fine. we adjusted to him, he adjusted to us, right now we felt each other. apparently because of this, now alexander zhulina has a very large group. now your rivals in the russian national team have come with whom you have competed together for many years, and sasha is with you. uh, like, she 's not jealous in sound, especially, maybe stepanov bukin, we discussed this with vika and quite recently and there is no answer yet. it may be, but it's just not clear while this is the off-season transitions. i would like to see the guys, in general, with the team with ours in action here. uh, maybe we can

answer a bit later. well, of course, such a healthy, healthy, calm jealousy is present a little bit. and if suddenly alexander calls and says, nikit vik, i need you. also , once upon a time, tanya came to you on the ice, for example, as i know, navka yes, and with some light helped you come to help, for example, i don’t know, uh, vanya and sasha in the production of the program or in the presentation, maybe you’ll agree to help psychologically in some way. i know how i'll answer. i'm not sure that vanya and sasha, uh, but we are the same age. i don't know if guys can or can do that. uh, here from them hmm it will go to zhulin, that maybe we will invite someone in our direction, maybe it's the depth that invited its eternal rival. i invited him to russia, i said, he is a five-time world champion. i don't care, i already

won it. i already proved everything to him, but i want, so that he shares his experience with me, because if i want to skate further, i need someone new, some kind of coach who will give me something new. and let it be a very cool champion who i respect as an opponent. listen, i think so then, if if he calls, if he asks e, we will come. i mean, don't guess what the guys will think, i'll ask you. you are ready to cool. real champions you generally consider yourself in the future. maybe as coaches. are you ready to pass on your experience to the younger generation, or vika, i'm not that ready. i really want to and i still do not understand at what point this should happen, because i know very precisely. what, what, to achieve, uh, a very cool high result. i have to live a lot of hours on the ice with athletes who still need to be found to help them. first it’s a huge path,

it’s possible, and now it’s over the side, but it’s no less difficult, and in general i really want to, really, i just don’t know yet when, uh , when you can start, but you know better than anyone that if you want something, you definitely want it will definitely happen. and you, i can say for sure, but about nikita that he just has a talent for exactly how to teach? i'm shocked how similar our couples are, because as nikita explains and does not explain. well. no one can tell in detail how everything is here, how the body should stand, he will not forget anything. he knows everything about every little thing, and this seems very useful to me, so i'm all for it in general for my knowledge, which, er, thinkers often communicate very much on the ice. how to make

it more convenient for us, we ride and so on, and here i am used to be very aggressive, somehow quick-tempered, i probably said, but i tried very hard. eh, this is because of maximalism. eh, well, like you want it to be better here and now, one hundred percent the same for me, i began to try, because everything already had to change. it’s just with the transition to zhulin to explain in a different way a little more intelligibly to calmly stop yourself more times to show, if necessary it seemed. why don't you understand that i want you? no, not all people understand what you want from them. and of course, i am generally grateful for the knowledge to all three, starting from my mother, who gave me all the most ingenious basic foundations for my whole life, and here are nikolai

morozov and marina zueva and alexander zhulin from all over the team. yes, and all the people who participated, in general, in this my sports life. i thank everyone. i keep everything in my head. and i hope that here uh, when once upon a time when i read the coach will help in case of chance, i realized that really every coach. eh, he gave you something, even if you have grievances against some coach. you know what not to do. and this is also a cool experience, and one that helps you. in coaching. the most difficult thing will be to kill the athlete in yourself and become a coach, and not be. and here i am, and i did. so this is the hardest part. and you, vika, as i understand it, are ready to just be nikita's muse, i also really want to convey. uh, my experience and knowledge anyway, but so far, that i have no desire to directly give myself to the maximum coaching and spend all the time, for example, on the rink, until i have one. perhaps

my opinion will change later, but i am always ready to help and be there. do you see someone now in russian ice dancing, who is able to reach? well, at least you haven't had any success yet. what needs to be done? how to change, what needs to be changed in the russian approach to ice dancing, so that we have some kind of material that can reach the olympic heights, in your opinion, you should call me a coach. sash you did everyone hear? nikita always ready guys, well, on this, i think on a positive note, our conversation has come to an end. unfortunately, i chatted with you, probably until the morning, but our air time is not rubber, just like our time in figure skating programs. thank you very much for decorating our broadcast today. you just shine two loving hearts.

thank you very much it was great. it was a free program podcast. i am maxim trankov and we are today's guests, olympic champions victoria sinitsyna and nikita katsapav.