but we were talking between you and me, this is confidential, but serious things and this clash. and this is just a consequence of the fact that the very people who put up avatars, they influence, because they form a mass that the politician is somehow conditional. can china sounded. let's talk about the east a few words. let's say sergei vyacheslav speaking here, and at the un recently said yes to the western minority, which should be more attentive to the majority. i remember we once talked with you, and on similar topics said we are all the time. well, a few years ago we were talking with the west, and the chinese indians - this is not very pleasant, what awaits us here. i think our challenge is that the chinese indians, other than the west , perceive the russian western confrontation as an episode of the struggle within the west , and we need to work with this perception until we are not the west, that we are there in the north let's say or what, we are the leader of this world majority. or someone else

, the original state of civilization is written in a new concept, well, let's say, yes, but here it is a perception in which they feel what is happening, in fact. this is a conflict of the white civilization within itself over, in general, not even ideological essences, but there is a dispute between economic entities. although uh, westerners are trying to present it as an ideological struggle. on the contrary, we will need to show that what is happening goes beyond the struggle. so inside western civilization. this is essentially such a long confrontation about the principles, uh, on which international relations in the 21st century will build a unipolar or lycentric here too, of course, we are like-minded with india from china, and of course , in what is happening, the main new feature is that in 500 years, in reality , significant centers of economic political military gravity have arisen. in the east , the east becomes important to us. y and a large

new value that we need to know. but the danger is the one that we identified here in this recent western projection. yes, when the world was offered a certain unified logic of life, yes, a unified system of values, or the only one, more precisely, yes, here it is it's here on the path where it rises, so to speak, the sun in the east is not waiting for us. uh, it seems to me not, because this is a feature of the western world of universalism and the belief that this cultural ethical system is the only correct one, and therefore it should be extended to everyone, but it started. uh, probably from the campaigns of christ and the great geographical discoveries, where there was, so to speak, a large economic entity, maybe the main one, but it was all packed. here is this civilizing mission. the east lives otherwise, the east is not a single conglomerate -

it is many different cultures, sometimes with each other. well, completely, if not alien, then very far from each other, and the meaning of this very term is the world majority, which we have as western, here it should not be confused with the fact that this is some kind of consolidated chest essence of the world majority, like multipolarity, that no one is forcing anyone to do anything. and we also do not impose anything on anyone, and not only because it seems like we have nothing to carry now, but also because no one needs it, there is no demand, the americans have already encountered this. if someone tries to carry his torch, he will face the same thing. today we have gathered our thoughts about what is happening with international relations in the modern world fyodor aleksandrovich lukyanov, international observer andrey andreevich sushentsov , dean of the faculty of international relations, gemoy. i am vladimir gogol. we often talk about how, here in this new emerging system of international

relations. what is the place of russia or what there should be a place for russia, as theologians would say, but in fact i want to ask you what it should not be instead of who we definitely should not become. here in this new one, folding with them. we cannot become a power of order. we are in the current border, as a country has existed since about the period of peter i. but here we are, as a large large state, a large center of gravity in the north of eurasia, must be in the top three of the top five, and the world powers must remain subject in the struggle of these great countries. we roughly understand how demographics will develop until the middle of the century, how will economic trends look like uh? we hope more or less predictable, now the policy will line up on the horizon there are styles or two russia must retain subjectivity. it must be a strategically sovereign country that excludes

the possibility of dependence. from someone it was not possible to maintain this autonomy the ability to choose the possibility of paving their own destiny in the 21st century. i would say the same a little otherwise we can't be anything addition to avoid dependency will always be in something. here envy is just the task, so that then there will already be more of them, so that different dependencies balance each other, because if you say so, well, in the most caricature form, the raw material appendage of the west turns into a raw material appendage of china, this can be internally pleasant for a number of reasons , but this does not change the essence, but as russia did not finally become a raw material fuse, god still did not become completely, and the second will not happen, therefore, this here is independence and the ability to always carry out in some kind of maneuver. it's a must. but this is actually what andrei said, but purely like this, philistine.

it seems to me that in no case should you fuss, because when such a country is gigantic, and in fact, possessing everything. as soon as possible, it starts to fuss there suddenly to react to the fact that in general such countries should never react and join. like, well, i don't know, but i'm always surprised when journalists call me. and start asking. but the prime minister of slovenia said, this one, well, baby, he or there is some kind of congressman, this is what we have. it is mainly related to the west. nobody ever asks. but in vietnam they said something, like this is the elimination of a certain complex, which in fact no longer has any basis. but it, apparently, was laid down. that's precisely the years of confidence that our development can only be catching up, therefore, even if something was blurted out in slovenia, then we need to somehow , perhaps, sharply send an angry send, but anyway, it seems to me that this is the vanity, it firstly distracts. secondly,

it is belittled this is not necessary, i remembered this wonderful one, what is it called? meme? yes, when two buddhist monks are sitting there. they say what they say, i watch the trees grow. he says you're all in a rush. yes, this is a very important and interesting topic for me. here in this new history, the emerging system of international relations. religion, as an ideological basis, what role can it play? we can probably talk be careful about the fact that religion is returning from the periphery of socio-political relations to its center, our colleagues from mgimo even talk about the webonization of religion, that is , the use of religion as a weapon . this is what awaits advanced western neurolinguistic techniques in this sense. human space, forming images and perceptions, prompting him to action, prompting him to indifferent perception of what is happening and carving emotion emotions are

the fuel of action due to the fact that techniques work with e, the human soul construction, they become more perfect. i think there are a lot of instrumental approaches to getting people motivated by 10 and sometimes cover. it's the religion you're talking about that it's religious motivation, yes religious motivation is pseudo-religious motivation. yes, i do not exclude that religion in the east , including, can become such an active force that will uh, well, motivate certain political programs there, india gave such an example, especially since there there is no such differentiation that we are used to in the western world. yes, that is, religion as a social autonomous phenomenon. it's still the first thing. uh, for- western heritage is such a plus, in general, what, well, firstly , there is not a single moment in the history of mankind when we could rigidly divide here. this is where religion ends. this is where

the power politics and stuff has always been used and will be used. as for, will it? uh, prop religion and some new era? i think so, because that in general it is very bad with the support ones, they all leave the ideologies, they crumble, they are brought to the ka turn absurdity. at first, we watched for a long time when this caricatured absurdity was brought up. uh, from the left with a tourist ideology. now liberal. right now, the main thing is not to allow the conservative ideology to be brought to the same absurdity, and even, god forbid, with the help of religion, from which it is also possible to build such a monster, although in general. this is a very healthy approach to life, which is why i think that religion is both alive and growing. creativity of the spirit is absolutely necessary. but if someone tries to use religion as a bridle for progress, so that society develops, so to speak.

this, i think, will not lead to anything good and nothing will work out. it will be the last one. i have a question for you, it is such with an educational dimension, it’s just these cards in your hands , taking into account what we managed to say today and in general everything what is happening why and how it is necessary today, first of all, to prepare a diplomat , i believe that it is a fundamental basis. in approach to training diplomats is rooted in the knowledge of history and the formation of empathy in relation to the structure that you are engaged in through knowledge of the languages ​​​​of its culture , traditions and the ability to, uh, interact with uh, a representative of another country, in a way that is interesting to you, this is a fundamental basis, on which the russian soviet then again the russian tradition historically relied and i believe that we must preserve and develop it. we are now conducting a study of how diplomats are trained in the top 20 countries of the world. and there completely paradoxical. we have observed you

compare how of course you compare your own approach with how it is done in the whole world. and there are amazing things there, for example, in some of the countries there is no actual textbook on the history of international relations , somewhere they don’t study foreign languages, they think that it’s not necessary to enter the diss in the service, generally special education, guys. pif for a type of service then undergoes a one-year retraining course, in our opinion, these countries are losing time in training diplomats, because it is expensive of course, it takes 6 years to train a deep fundamental specialist in regional studies with knowledge of the language and understanding of history and it will not necessarily make a good diplomat. but at least he has a cause-and-effect connection to what 's going on in the world. they will be properly arranged, but will not be inclined to experiment with the new, which we must do in the training of a diplomat. it is to strengthen their ability to interact and communicate in this new environment, where you need to take the initiative to firmly defend your own position. own platform interacted in the discussion so that your

point of view it was your point of view that looked like the closest approximation to common sense, these are the medians of common sense with this one. it seems to me that there is a complexity of large information space. well, i work at the school of economics. uh, we don't train diplomats. we prepare international specialists of others. yes, and andrey said it quite correctly, and i also tell my students all the time that there should be a picture of the picture of the world as a whole. here's how the reason investigative connection, how one affects the other, because the problem of many people and even world leaders. uh, that's what they have pictures. no, they act. here they are momentarily solving problems. and in fact, for a long time it was thought that this was normal? why is everything? right now, the world is so complicated that it is very easy to get confused, get confused and lose, in general , a compass, that this one, especially

the abundance of information, you absolutely don’t understand in the same place, where eh? where where ends search and so, therefore, we need a base representation, as in general, here is a structural representation, and then already. well, everyone will have strength. that is, by virtue of their abilities and knowledge, to fill this structure with current events, but here is a complete picture from here. actually, we need a theory. why? well, they often ask, especially we have students there. well, what for, i need this, if i then go to the corporation to deal with oil, well, the fact is that anger is also taken from the same international relations that i sang as a hint of the war, which means, in general, they have not changed much. yes, as i recently one student not from our university. hmm, who is also going to go somewhere to the corporation and said that 8 million people live in india, so in general, it is clear that i think it will be difficult for him to run a successful business. thank you very much, dear friends, fedorov international observers andrey shushentsov deans. faculty, there is a hero of international relations. i am vladimir berry. we

gathered today to think about what is happening with international relations. thank you hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shklarov this is a podcast of space stories. today we will go out into outer space together with the honored tester of space technology maxim zaitsev. maxim, we have known each other for a long time, we work together in the parking center, cosmonauts tell us what exactly is your job? well, first of all. eh, somehow i already correctly said that the preparation of cosmonauts for spacewalks precedes all this. eh, the testing of this technique, and which we then show you everything, this is the whole process that you then perform in space. uh we pre it we also test, that is, at the beginning, but,

having received the task, the task. yes, for a specific spacewalk, moreover. uh-huh you develop a theory at the beginning of the uh-huh from the moment, and the discovery of luke yes of the transition route. that is right. yes, look, the work itself is for the decision, yes. this work out and under water, yes , and after you have brought to perfection. i mean, uh, reducing the time and effort expended underwater. well, hydrolabs. then you already pass it on to us astronauts. and we are already following the prepared scenario. yes yes absolutely right but it’s not like it’s right according to a ready-made scenario, because an astronaut, when he comes to train specifically at our hydrolaboratory, and when we have more than one training session there. it's always a series of workouts. that is, we repeat the same thing every time. but it's like actually any learning process and, uh, astronaut. he is in the process of these trainings. he also changes something , makes some adjustments. that is, this

is such an endless process, but everything begins, in fact, very far away from setting up the experiment. that is, on earth. here's an experiment. uh, then under this experiment e in the enterprises of the space industry. uh, they prepare equipment in order to conduct this experiment and every time every time every experiment every spacewalk is always something new there are no identical spacewalks, therefore the equipment and experiments are also always different and the equipment for a particular experiment . it is developed differently every time. well your work doesn't stop right at hydrolaboratories. eh, we have worked further. and then you e work out these tasks , work out these tasks duplicating the crew. we receive, uh, a certain set of corrective information, that is, from you from understudies from the directors of the experiment, because the directors of the experiments. they

, too, usually participate in these trainings. oh, we're getting all this baggage. here are the comments. we're bringing it all in. you fly away, uh, and uh, we start preparing directly for the exit, and uh begins. uh, equipment preparation tool to exit the program, in which the documentation and e on this whole process. we , too, accompany this whole process, as directly and participants in this whole process. you can make adjustments. we are in the soup during the exit. right we are. e in close proximity. well, if like this, physically and close proximity, uh, with the person who passes the exit. if there are any uh questions, and again , uh, spacewalk. eh, this is something new every time, that is, take into account everything. uh what

can happen outside. there, one person cannot keep everything in his head. although er, basic information. yes, after all, it is concentrated in the head of one person, but nevertheless, there are some nuances and some things and some advice that we can give e during the exit, of course, too. uh, let's be next to a man conducting a spacewalk on his own. yes , that's what alexei arkhipovich leonov was in the sixty- fifth year. e, did yes, the exit itself was dedicated precisely to understand, is it generally possible he is, but in general in the future spacewalks are always work. and you uh without uh some tools without any fixtures. well, you can't do anything in outer space. therefore, yes, we have the same thing we are working on. well, as soon as we are selected in the detachment. yes we have typical operations etc. it was rightly said that we have, like

, uh, operations that make up each spacewalk and missions and exits. yes, and preparation. e to the exit. it starts with practice. here are some types of elements of movement skills on the outer surface. dangerous because, well, open space, but it's , let's say, a dead zone for humans. he can't exist as a human being and naturally he must be able to work safely, uh be safe to work there . he does not just have to perform this or that task. he also has to do this job safely, because here it would seem, yes, so he went out into outer space, and here he is all left to himself, but in fact it is safety. e of each member and crew. it directly leads to the safety

of the plant in general, in principle, well, it is being worked out by a laboratory that is intended to be reproduced. yes, yes, on earth it is slightly different, of course. i can say there are nuances, of course, although we weigh the spacesuit. yes , it is neutral buoyancy, in principle, can be moved, but still there is gravity. if you turn it upside down, you fall on head. well, the spacesuit has some nuances, but i think that after all, without the e-e work of ch. it would be much more difficult to work for sure. just definitely, of course, it's this, well, it's it's like it's like any skill. this is how to give a person some task and not prepare some specific task and not, of course, prepare this task for her. well, look, just at the generalatore cosmonaut training center, we see a twelve-meter depth. uh, our pool. uh-huh it's a lab uh-huh well, that's

hanging. that's just now visible on e, depth is the element. well part of the dancing of the russian segment. yep, hydro lab. it was generally built at eight in the early eighties. e 's size why is it 12 m, yes, uh, well , first of all, in order not to redesign the uh reservoir. uh, uh was taken as the basis , the oil tank and uh, it was chosen in this way and it was placed in it. e , the body of the station was placed, which at that time was flying in space, this is the station e of the salyut station. we have a platform that rises from the water on the platform installed uh, station layouts and we can change them , this is how to play in a cube. yes, we can set one or another configuration depending on the water task. yes, indeed, he somehow correctly said here on earth. there are no other

ways to simulate weightlessness for a long time, i emphasize that there is no long-term one. we have the ability to reproduce weightlessness modes on a laboratory plane. and well, he's there it's weightlessness. this is the real, this is just that weightless. in which you find yourself, uh, when you fly into space, but unfortunately it is short-lived something lasts there about the order of 22-24 seconds, and the outputs we have them last uh, as a rule, 6-7 hours. e, and. naturally, on a laboratory plane. we won't work. eh, all the way out. i have all my exits three exits. ugu e made his compatriots his colleagues, but i know that we had access to international ones. that is, uh, they went out in our space suits. uh, our russian colleagues are americans, in principle, there is such an opportunity. how to get out of the russian yes segment so even, in my opinion, you can wear two

different spacesuits, but to get out of the american this possibility is absolutely right this is not happening now this is not happening now. let me now tell you from the very beginning of uh, the american airlock. gone from their module, they really have such an opportunity. it was provided that they installed there. you can get out of uh american lock equipment and uh in a russian spacesuit in an eagle, and what they do in their spacesuits. and mew then, there is here you can go out and work on e, the outer surface of our airlock can only be exited in russian. uh, a spacesuit, well, historically, in general, uh, the construction of the station, it uh, evolved in such a way that in order to serve the russian segments , in order to go out, uh, for the purpose, uh, to conduct experiments on the russian segment, we go out there in russian spacesuits americans . naturally, they work in their space suits, but then again, space suits are

always safety. maybe, uh, that is, such a possibility was considered and such a possibility is being considered that suddenly, under some conditions, we will need, or uh, go to the american segment in a russian spacesuit, or to the russian segments, which was also practiced when you also went to the construction site in an american spacesuit and the station is now large now it is there in terms of area. they are very fond of comparing that if you put it on the ground, yes , it will occupy. uh, like a football field, although hermetically sealed volumes. they are much smaller, and construction is at the dawn. it's a modular station. it was built from that is, this is how it is, like lego blocks collected collected collected. and so, when at the very beginning it was small, and even then, at the dawn of construction, it was possible to go out in russian. uh, in a russian spacesuit. uh, it wasn’t there from the station, so at the dawn of construction they went out in american

spacesuits, including the russian segments. therefore, our and our cosmonauts - this was the so-called cross- training. that is, uh, cosmonauts astronauts went to prepare, uh, with their american colleagues at nasa for spacewalks astronauts. in american space suits astronauts came here and trained to go out in russian spacesuits, and then they really were such exits , that is, uh, two people from different countries came out in american spacesuits, that is, an american and u russian to service the international space station, it is common therefore the construction this is common, and therefore it was necessary to serve a common station. i'm just now it's already big and therefore uh now uh this is no longer being done. although that is, not all astronauts train in american and not all americans are training to get out of russia

. when it was not all, but uh, such a need arises nevertheless on a regular basis. uh, and uh, let's say the american colleagues had problems with the thermal control system. yes , and they were afraid that, well, they had one. the period when they had problems with cooling, uh, their segment, and then they didn’t have ships, uh, on which they could uh, the dragons didn’t have yet to fly into space on their own. we flew into space only on unions and the shuttle was gone, so they were afraid that on the american segment, this emergency situation with thermal control will happen and there will not be two astronauts there in order to carry out repairs, and just recently, but here, uh, flew in, uh, into our segment. now a multi-purpose laboratory module is being introduced, and there, as part of the module , a european manipulator arrived, and during its validation, that is, when

this manipulator was turned on. that was just recently. uh, spacewalk or artemiev went out, uh, with a representative of the european space agency with samantha christofertiti. i think you flew with her too. that's why open space, only two by two. yes, yes, spacewalks. always two by two - this is also that very interesting moment. e for the entire history of spacewalks. not together was only two times. the first is when leonov went into outer space, and another case when it was not together. eh, the americans. they're on shuttles, when they flew they had, uh, a period when they flew into space on shuttles, uh, not just a space station. well, just there that is, here are flights on the shuttle, and they had a task. e, means e to catch and e to serve the satellite of catching the so-called this satellite. it, uh, took place with the help of two astronauts who went into outer

space. in the payload compartment. the shuttle was accommodated and allowed. uh, i approached this satellite and they had to catch this satellite. uh, they made a special device for catching this satellite. and the two of them failed and an operational decision was made. that is, the next day there or after some time. the three of them went out into outer space. and already the three of them, uh, catch a satellite. e, this event number one succeeded for me, as if we all the world participated in this large-scale action , emotional beautiful makes you think that we really know how to price in this life, we do it, we are cool. when you need something, go to the weekly

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almost overheating in the porthole next to you, metal overload is melting. i heard, that today a fire broke out on board the mir station, the crew, in principle, saved itself in front of me, my whole life flew by for a few seconds. and we got carried away. dear mom you don't have time to say this chill has already entered the soul. space rescue on saturday at first we continue our conversation about spacewalks, by maxim zayets. in what was their here is this is the task. yes, and it was a very

interesting exit. a very interesting exit. look, it has arrived, uh, multi-purpose laboratory module, oh yes mlm, and it is from itself its name it says about it appointment. there are a lot of scientific experiments there. and as for the equipment that is installed on this e-module, it is e, like e, any high-tech equipment emits a lot of heat, heat that needs to be removed from the station, that is , ejected into outer space so that the astronauts themselves normally inside. uh, we felt that the technique did not overheat, like a computer, well, first of all. i'm worried about the astronauts. after all, i'm at the astronauts' training center; they're at the work technique training center. that's why i i worry about you the most, the module means it arrived, and a few years before its e-arrival , too, when designing on the module, one passed by one which, by the way, went into space - this is the only module of the russian segment that was brought into space. uh, american states, and there. these are modules, uh, here on earth in advance. they placed

two large elements, which then u were supposed to be part of the mlm, this is primarily a radiator. e, the so-called e, r. that heat exchanger, a and airlock. and here's the third number, which means they're uh using of the era a manipulator with a module past 1 , this radiator was transferred to the ml module, but the task is yes. eh, it’s been a very non-trivial thing for a long time that we didn’t have such large-scale exits , but it was a serious task. and what other and well, such interesting unusual outputs. do you remember interesting remember. well, not that i remember, i uh know from an old point of view. well, look at us, uh, uh, this is also here, returning. eh, to those. i don't know, you can call them a record not a record. we have, uh, the first woman to go into outer space. uh,

svetlana savitskaya, but uh , they went out with dzhanibekov, and they had a very interesting experiment that no one has repeated yet, the americans. they wanted to do this experiment. they just didn't work out. that is, they also wanted to conduct this experiment on the shuttle . the experiment was dedicated. e welding in space. uh, have welding for the first time yes, for the first time women. yes , it's more, in addition to the fact that this was the first time it was done in space, it's also yes, quite right, it was the first time it was done. uh, the first woman who went out into outer space. yes, for this flight. yes , and they went out twice, but this is, uh, the first exit. eh, he's dedicated. e was just e, welding. uh, in outer space and the experiment went well enough. eh, quite successfully, that is, all the tasks and techniques of the technique that was prepared for this exit worked out. eh, very good. and today we will say that

we have this technology. so we have an opportunity. yes, it's just that the question is often asked. and what is the practical exhaust from astronautics? yes. uh, really really a lot of things we do in space. uh, it's just not time for them yet. here's the thing about welding. yes, uh, we have uh, let's put it this way. eh, if you describe this task in such large strokes, then this is the construction of large structures in space, and we are now working on repairs, uh, technologies, uh, that we will need in the future. here we did this experiment. it's just that the time has not yet come for him to put this method into practice. well, or, for example, uh, a lot of experiments both in the soviet union and in then russia and our american colleagues also conducted experiments related to the shape memory of metal with shape memory. that is, what is, er, the experiment, because we have

the main problem of delivering certain elements into space, this is the volume, that is, not so. not although mass is also important, but volume, for example. we need to go to space. yes, we need to send some into space. uh, a big antenna. yes, yes, a large length or or there, uh, a diameter or a large radius, and they came up with such a very interesting one method. uh, here on earth they're building a structure. eh, give it a certain shape. uh, well , they give it a shape from metal, and then under the influence of certain factors. well , let's say, the way origami and it are folded, and this design, uh, but folded in such a way that it then independently. uh, the problem also lies in the fact that the spacewalk. but this is quite energy-consuming and, of course, we would like something that we sent to in the sense that it came? uh, to the original form

on its own, that is, so that it itself is there it was going to be laid out, therefore , such a method was invented, that is, we folded it like origami into space, this compact design was brought out. eh, they took her. uh, electricity heated this structure, and it took on its original form in space, which we gave it here on earth. and these are the experiments, in fact, foreigners and the world and the americans on their ships. they are such experiments. eh, we did a lot. this is also here. uh, experiments related to uh, building technology, or and so on, but i would really like to you know about which experiment to tell, here is the one with non-technologies, but more with science, because we have a lot of scientific experiments. uh, it's being done in space, and right now, uh, we're doing an experiment. this is such a very long experiment in time, and you are in it as well. participated in this experiment, came quite by accident. uh,

that is, we have on the outer surface. uh, experts noticed that in the area of ​​\u200b\ u200bthe engines. there is some sediment there and this sediment was resolved. e to study a how to study it then there is, this is the element that is deposited on the outer surface. it must be brought to earth, because although cosmonauts are ready for , uh, a lot of research and experiments, they are not prepared for a detailed study of certain elements. well , it's just. there are just things, uh, to which it's irrational to carry out in space , uh, so it was decided to take a sample. but this here sediment and deliver it to the ground, and then when they began to develop an experiment. he is a very simple experiment. that there is a cotton swab there, which you should come up to anoint on the outer ones. yes, yes, make a mazuk, uh, wrap it uh in an airtight capsule and