once something very sharply refused to leave and start a new life. and here, maybe something similar, but for this group of people it's really a moment of their own. let's say god, under the name of uranus, he transfers them to other circumstances, makes them fearless in some way risky, but changes everything in their lives and, above all, of course, questions can be key, directly fundamental, this platform on which you stood. uh, well, in every sense of this life, a philosopher in a philosophical sense in everyday life. that is, you had a rod and you are on built their lives on it. and now, suddenly it will have to be changed very quickly, this can happen. well, who can be more creative than you who can be such an original, timely person, ahead of his time ahead of his time, just such people are those who were born alone. the twelfth of february, therefore, remember your

ability to see, feel ahead of time , understand everything, but another thing is that, of course, you should also be more careful, because at such a time the physical state of the body. it fails to readjust. and, of course, uranus always likes to play some kind of game with danger, and what about this group of people? of course, they should pay attention to the lower leg area, to the vascular system, even to the knees, because there may be some exacerbations that suddenly arise and you were not ready for this. everything can be solved only by the question of the internal state, acceptance, understanding and expansion. uh, these are the horizons that you are offered an attempt to close the door and not let this new wind in your face not succeed. and uh, that wind will break you,

so really try to take all the risks, but remember, you're starting a new life. and if it seems to you that the people nearby are not the same, that they don’t really understand you, now you need to switch. let fate do it on its own and see if something that comes into your life will be very useful to you. this podcast is witty with you. i am svetlana dear. you can watch all episodes of the lab podcast project on the first channel website 1tv.ru, and now, as we promised, first treat with special attention to your questions. i understand that many questions are purely personal. but i hope that it will be useful for many to hear what i answer and comment on. well, i'll start with the first question. hello, svetlana found a simian line on the child's right hand. please tell us about this line. what

is special about such people is the seed line. this is a very rare line that occurs on the hands. i've seen it in my practice, but it doesn't happen often, so you understand what it's all about. i'll usually tell you now on hands. usually their hands have a heart line, a head line and a life line and this is a completely typical story when the hand looks like this, but there is another option. it's just a line of seeds. this is when we do not have a line of the head of the line of the heart, and there is only one line that passes almost like this , this is such a slightly anomalous option. er hands, it all depends on very different circumstances. watch to understand what is at stake. if this is the line it

is located, remember i told you about the line of the heart. it is usually located higher. here somewhere here, and here the line of the head. that is , we do not have a line of the heart. what is the line of the heart, this is empathy, this is a feeling, this is an emotion. these are some forms of emotional experiences. sympathy, but if this line is sian, which replaces both lines, the lines of the head and heart are quite low. let's say practically, touching or near the beginning of the line of life, then we are dealing with a person who is quite prudent, pragmatically materialistic , so relying only on his mind, his intellect, logic is even alien to him sometimes. here are some strange experiences. here is the sensitivity. uh, excessive, but that doesn't mean it's bad or good? those people that i met with such a line, they usually demonstrate

their approach to life. they are very rational, they plan everything, but there is always some kind of rigidity in this, there is little love, and this is really a moment enough for someone , maybe even uncomfortable, and here you must definitely look at both or hands. here is a seed line. if on both, that is, it makes sense after all, well, somehow try to wake up in a person these emotions of feeling. by the way, this line is sometimes a little, even broken or somehow. uh, as if injured, or something, but here, but then you need to be very careful about the head area and with any signs of some kind of headaches or some kind of not quite typical conditions associated with the head, after all, you need to pay attention to this attention. this is a kind of, after all , an anomalous load on the mentality. no, it is precisely for such experiences when a person like an automaton, like some kind of computer wants

to solve a problem and partly stops listening to itself. i even saw a girl with such a family line, who was first married, everything was fine. she was very correct , it was always emphasized, but then, when it wasn’t enough, in this marriage of feelings, probably, some kind of mutual bestowal. here, unfortunately, it didn’t work out very well, but i want to tell you that hands tend to change. and it very much depends on how a person understands himself, what he thinks about it, how he feels and if a person nevertheless begins to listen to this world, then additional lines appear. not once did she watch it. but there is another option that can meet this line. family, so-called this, if the same hand, let's say, we only have this line is located closer to the fingers, not here,

where we drew it with you. but instead of the line of the heart, it’s just an overabundance of feelings, if this is a line, in general one of these lines in the first case or in the second, it has such a very deep, occurrence some very dark color or very red is not a good sign here. this is a sign of some kind of excess in one direction or another, for example, excessive e, such susceptibility is very strong, such a psychological strain. this also happens. so sometimes. it happens hmm such a whitish color. now, if it's whitish, that's a sign. in general, not health, lack of strength. this, too, should be paid attention to, and sometimes hardness of heart, but this location is closer to the fingers, after all. this is the case when a person relies more on his feelings. it is very difficult for him to act logically; it is very difficult for him to somehow rationalize. the world of their perception on the logic to streamline it to systematize. this is

why here back, just the country of the medal. here you need to try to teach a person to still rely on logic. still, try to think how you visually build a picture for yourself some kind of writing , maybe even a table, anything to work for this mental component of ours, this is how the seed line looks like. and i think that we will still have them talking not once because we are waiting for a lot of interesting things in palmistry. for now, i'll continue answering your questions. question hello svetlana. thanks for your transmissions. it was interesting to know that the retrograde of the planets this year worries me, what can you say about the influence of the planets on the future by date of birth. this is the date of birth. and someone's, uh, apparently, a girl and a husband, what to expect what to prepare for what to pay attention to what to be afraid of thank you in advance and i really hope

for your recommendations. thank you for your trust. but, first, with regard to retrograde planets. there is nothing extraordinary here, because every year the planets go retrograde in the same practically, but mode, as usual. well, it's just that the times are different, all the planets have a retrograde movement during the year, so there is nothing supernatural in their retrograde. no, retrograde, sometimes it creates, as it were, in layers, in layers, no, i'm throwing back return to something to recycle something. to replay , to revise, to restart sometimes it seems to us, it is very problematic, we are such something that suspends plans. no it's just the moment when we are given a chance to do something in life, change something and correct the mistake, so we don’t need to treat it with some kind of fear, another thing is that when the retrograde planet suddenly works at the time

of an eclipse or some very important connection from another planet, of course, this is given not acceleration, but decelerations and this is the event that creates the bookmark. it, uh, can be in an unsolvable way for a very long time, so there is no point in worrying about your data. i always look very carefully at the data sent to me, but i want to say that real professional astrology operates not just with the date of birth. it operates with time of birth by place of birth. and not just the time of birth, when a person comes to consult and they say, well, i was born there at 13:25. or maybe 13:26. or maybe 13:30, that is, any professional astrologer calculates exactly the minute of birth; there are mathematical methods that allow you to roll

back a little and, based on past events, determine exactly up to the minute of birth per person. therefore, here such uh, let's say the answer of the non-olitic, as if it were an astrologer, runs there, the running line is somewhere and he immediately knows everything right away, this is not so, of course, there is. and by the dates you can determine something and see how everything will turn out, but nevertheless, of course, you don’t want to answer irresponsibly to such questions, therefore, well, probably, uh, the profession of an astrologer. you need some respect, but show it because it's really very time consuming. history it takes a long time because there are things you you see in advance that they are preparing a person for something very important, and now an event is happening that he does not like, but this is only to help him fix something and so on, so any any such question. he, of course, uh, well , makes you smile a little, because you want to help,

but with such water, it is extremely difficult to do this. and it will be very superficial . we have a lot of questions, and i am such a person that i want to answer everything at once. but i think that in the next programs we will definitely respond to the next questions. i did it with great pleasure. if there is an opportunity, even in private to see something, of course i will tell you about it. but, and now we are completing our next program with the hope of meeting soon and for the most prosperous events that await everyone. it was a witty podcast and i was with you. i am svetlana dear. hello this is an easy money podcast and i am its host mikhail khanov today we have a very

difficult topic - entrepreneurship. how to open your own business, and our guest ivan tinkov is an entrepreneur say the serial entrepreneur is the president of the moscow business assembly? hello you hello. thank you for inviting me. yes , today we will solve a very difficult task. you know, a lot of textbooks have been written, a lot of articles on the topic how to open your own business about what? this is generally where to start, and so on , there is a lot of theoretical research. today you are like a real practitioner and i think that we will try to paint with you. here is this step-by-step creation mechanism using an example, how was it for you? well, actually. let's start there with the main question. why is it easy for some people to open? yes business one other third, they fail opens the next. yes, that's why they are called serial entrepreneurs, because they are doing entrepreneurship. like a series. yes, it's not just one. the dream project of a lifetime. yes there or family heritage business is really business after business is a new

business and that's it. own business. why is this word? i also like it much more than a businessman. well, actually, why alone discover and make others continue to dream. what does it depend on? well, here, probably, the degree depends more on the person. hmm, and, of course, here you need to understand that someone digs into certain fixed ideas or in a certain dream. and for someone it just becomes the meaning of life as a lifestyle when it starts from childhood. here you are when you feel that you are able to create your own business. listen, my father. he is an entrepreneur. he is a builder well, i am from a small region, the republic of mordovia, the city of saransk yes, this is the time when we probably parents saw once through the peephole there. yes, but certain things, of course, he laid in me in moscow since i was 16 years old. he lives alone as he arrived, as if the monuments changes 2004-2. the fifth year is the plekhanov academy of attempts to walk, but its impossibility,

probably already then some first undertakings. well, of course, even from school it was something drawn. well, specifically, well , then the time was different, i remember the cassette, but they took the cassette and gave up, the same. e classmate for rent. there, piece by piece , within a certain time frame. yes, when did the first rambo go out there or is the first one bloody or how did they do it? no no, these are not goblins, thank god that's why it didn't work, that's why i see this story. still, so, but someone goes for the sake of money, and someone really gets sick with this story of you. i think entrepreneurship in general. this is a disease. it can only progress in this way, that is, it is a disease that engulfs a person and is already in another position, and regardless of the position there, top management, management, wages , all sorts of goodies. can't work under someone, these are freedom-loving people in any case, who suffer from a certain idea,

or several ideas for a certain period of life. well, already on i think that our audience can record the first life hack we have of the tradition of this podcast, what am i saying? take a piece of paper and a pen in your hand. yes actually. here, uh, tactile sensations, no one canceled additionally and write down that you understood that ivan came to moscow at the age of 16 in 2004. many say that it was then the time of the nineties. it was the peak attention of 2004, that is it would seem that everything has settled down. everything, in fact. uh, all the assets are already moving there, what is called distributed? nothing is distributed. and if there really is, uh, in the soul and in psychology this mood, then maybe any year you will agree, there and 2004-2005 2010, that is, every time the excuse was not the time, here you had the time, so how it started. ah, well, it seems to me that if we are talking about some basic industries at the time when i arrived, it was completely unrealistic

today, given the new time, considering e-commerce, how it develops, is it possible to catch something in the same product segment? uh-huh of course, why flowers flowers were born? it's literally spontaneous. first business. it was a flower, it grew into a fairly large federal network, the pandemic, of course, battered us, we closed about 17 regions. but let's just say the scaling continues nonetheless. we forgot to say that you are the founder and owner of a chain of flower supermarkets with an annual turnover of 3 billion rubles. i won't give or take anything today. yes it including one digit. ah, when we dropped to this figure, i'll tell you well, when it was earned, the first one, for example, well, a million, probably, it's not interesting. i mean turnover. yes, not earned when the turnover has reached. well, let's say there are 100 million rubles. in year. look, i had an idea, a fix is ​​a billion. i'll be honest with you and turn. natural turnover. at first there was an idea to fix in some quantity, and this, but a huge

delusion of mistakes on my part, because we just started, let's say, to mint stores, which we will start here, in fact, you began to wool, yes, look where you can apply. here, let's stop in detail. at the very first store there, and then we were engaged in some kind of financial consulting , let's call it like that, uh, there was money, but my father is a very conservative person. and for everything else, whatever it is. he said that your turnover is a fund wage in that business, if it could be called that, which i was engaged in, there was practically no photo. i thought that it was necessary to open a certain business that would please my father. yes, somehow equate me in his male concepts, that is , it is still the fulfillment of someone's expectations. i think that this is the decision of my children's complexes, probably, somehow the unclosed general staff, probably, he influenced. well, it will be true, that is, i did not initially go into the flower business, because i love flowers, which cannot be said now, now i love

flowers, i love what i do. and, of course, i miss them in many ways, given the new project, how not to be afraid to do it. this is the first step. here's for you. this is what you were was? how old is 16? and, if we are talking about the flower business, it is 19 years old, 19 19, 1/2 the first such business that can be called a business. it was a business where people depended on me. i tell you so. yes, there was a fund. ah, it was just a store, then two more at once, which opened within a month. this whole story was negative. how many months did it take? here's to maintaining i remember mine. this is work for the enterprise, taking into account the rent, because if we are talking about moscow, the main waste is this, of course, the rental rate in moscow, it leaves much to be desired, if we speak from the side of a tenant entrepreneur, yes, then it is, of course, ford that is, if we should not exceed 15% on average, there is 15%. labor should not exceed yes percent of

turnover. well, of course, it exceeds that you are now looking back. yes, so that you can correct it now or do it differently, but always the same yes, but if i had a magic wand, then now i would do this and that and everything would just fly like rocket. well, i would go to get additional education, because i didn’t have enough at the initial stage, anyway, honestly, i was enrolled at the university, but to say that i gave this proper education. in what? and when i finished my bachelor's degree, it was one history in the master's program. in our plekhansk academy, real teachers taught. yeah , i remember the financial director of tsum also taught other people, the smartest people in practice, whom you could listen to how to do business, how to manage human resources. it was marketing in the form in which we saw it then, probably now it is something different, but in general they had it. well, you can learn a lot. and in general, the internet was open then, but that

age did not allow me to think that someone knows more than i do, so no. well, it 's real. i clearly understand that, at least at the time, entrepreneurs of my age come into this story with a little crown. well, it's like a diving crooning effect. yes, you can google when people with high iq with every level of education knowledge consider themselves. uh, actually not competent enough, but people. here's a look at what is the effect on the internet, and people who do not have the knowledge. simultaneously. they simply move forward with confidence. so that's it, because it's like that. here, well, actually. ah. it helps like that, and you have chosen a sphere nonetheless. yes, it can be intuitive yes, subconsciously, which eventually became, really billionaireized in fact, if we are talking about the industry, which is now we say in which i started, i did some light analytics. i understood that certain surnames are present in construction products and in some other industries, loud surnames are strong

surnames, then the flowers at that time were soft. let's say business in the sulfur zone, frankly, it was not a hairstyle. it was absolutely not plentiful and there were no serious players. yes, in fact , today monopoly in business does not exist, it is often very confused. er, next question. e concepts business idea with business goals. what is the difference? see the target any business. still, it makes money, this is a fact, but i believe that if there is no mission and values ​​​​that we bring to this world in general, then you will not have, dear, loyalty on the part of the target audience, no loyalty to the char brand on the part of your staff . well, that is you actually speaking, in plain language. you must burn with this idea yourself, you must have a sparkle in your eyes, otherwise, it ’s just people won’t believe anyone at this stage , you need a charge that just like from a springboard will bring an entrepreneur to a certain form, which is his main mission be, thus, an incentive charge, both for your employees and for the target audience for which you work, yes, how is

your potential buyer? that is, you must be that motor. and in which you owe all this, dan when he tore out his heart and went so well, i always compared myself more with mayakovsky, who know such a loud and powerful word. maybe in a meeting with hunger. you know, you love rosa and i'm on this story, of course, of course, the initial stage. this is important when people do not see the dividends that they have, when they close the tekipiai that were promised and pia i will immediately explain the key performance indicators. that is, these are the criteria by which the success and failure of actions are evaluated. well, yes, uh 1 2 3 we have determined that if we achieve such such goals, yes, then we are great. if not, then not well done, that's actually it. well , perhaps, let's immediately the question is this. well, i'm sorry to torture you so quickly enough. what do you think business direction. yes, business ideas can be in demand now, not a specific idea businesses. yes, it's probably incorrect

to ask like that, but let's say the region. tell our listeners. i became the founder of the company. that's all for uavs with drones. e of a different nature. mostly. we started farming farming. they can give fields, they can sit, they even have already learned buckwheat, rice quietly on their own. if we imagine a field of 10,000 hectares, that is, certain easement zones, on which these are empty zones, on which nothing has been planted, because on them, for example, a tractor must drive with the aim togo. to produce one or another a-a , then for example, if they are performed by a drone at a certain height, then it is all sown, that we are given a cut already 6% larger than the sphere itself. that is, what spheres , all spheres, for example, are connected, for example, with the future, but they are also visible to the same 3d printers. we started the production of their scope, their application

is colossal, from education to the current situations there. that is a question. where do you see yourself, where does it burn, where does it burn, i would not go into this, i originally invested in these projects, you clearly understand that this is a certain future. now i got sick in this. in a sense, and, probably, in my basic businesses, which today are more classic, top management is even a little jealous. uh-huh me, and now less often, i see and they talk about the rather wonderful concept of start-up capital. yes, everyone says, that’s why we don’t belong there now, here in 2004. there are some criteria, is there enough burning heart and burning eyes to start a business, or is some money still needed know the history. so i started, i will have 10,000 rubles. now this story is real or is it 100,000 million, that it all depends, well , it tells well about some startups that are successful in e-commerce as a whole, but we understand with you that this is not a system. it's

always custom. uh, exception to the rule, of course i would attract investors. there are big risks here. we act as investors in several small projects, but i know a huge number of stories when just bright ideas from guys took away a business plan . i don't believe in his business plan. why impossible to prove? well, imagine a young guy comes to you, his eyes are burning. so he says, so it will be so you ask him one simple question. and if it doesn’t happen that he has nothing to give you, you have nothing to take away guarantees from him, you either believe in his idea and in his energy and in his energy, yes, or that, honestly, i don’t have a single unrealized business, wherever business plan. i'll be honest. this is my porcelain, you live without a business plan. don't make a budget for the year. no, there is planning already in operation. but if we say start not well, of course, but this is not the case, i do it, the top management is specially trained. i am not a system person. you need to understand me

to get a saber. i always say in battle, and then we'll figure it out, then, so i clearly understand my strengths. i understand what team to surround myself with, because in fact the frames. that said, one smart man in his time. the frame decides. i absolutely agree with him, because business well, without a background, it’s human , you won’t make any strong steps, people have been chosen, but legal ones have opened. that's when you can start counting, profits, losses, after all, when do you need to do this, when can you set the same kpi? yes, to show that, well, it didn’t fly or flew. there are expectations, i always put. the first dot is zero is operational zero. when we at least cover the current current costs with you, but they must also be correctly calculated. own time. we start counting from the very beginning from the very beginning, of course. of course, we are still doing this, that is , a business plan - look at it like that. i'm not for so that it doesn't happen.

i’m just saying that i personally don’t pay so much attention to this, but it must be a team you choose yourself, of course, top management, the main thing is definitely friends take friends experience was not recommended from them, moreover, the experience was not recommended . that is, we immediately put the taboo on our relatives. listen, i heard the same stories, both from older comrades and from my father, but i understood exactly when i stepped on my own rake. in general , i think that looking at other people's mistakes and be guided, then by them in your own life. it's absolutely much of a story. sometimes it's better. let it rake well. between the eyes then it will be clear and understandable because watching 10 times twisting the same video, how painful it is. hmm, you have to get over it, so make mistakes. only one of them will be good, only one of them will be money. in

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also with pictures, stickers, circles of rice. and if you need words again, say them looking into your eyes. which is now available to all subscribers. go to megafon this is an easy money podcast, i'm its host mikhail khanov today we have a very difficult topic, how to open your own business, and our guest is serial entrepreneur ivan tinkov, your employees are subscribed to you in social networks. i hope yes, you're in the dark about it. i hope you are talking to all

subscribers, as if you are behind the screen, only your employees, there is such. i occasionally provide information. ah, only up to some people people understand this, yes, that is, you use it? well, that's always right. when you communicate by imagining specific people with whom you communicate at all, it's easier. and you know. people like it better. i understood one thing, that time, if we talk about some kind of social activity, some kind of blogging, then it’s time for photos next to all kinds of rental cars. a-a bryuliks, thank god dear life, it's gone, thank god now the time of openness, the time of honesty and the time of naturalness, as for the man of the woman, thank god let it remain so. i still adhered to conservative views. and in everything. sometimes even too much, but it's better to let it be so. actually, who in the first place at the very beginning. i understand correctly who is engaged in the promotion

of promotion at the initial stage. it's you or you immediately hire someone professional business or about the media component of the business, of course. a listen differently. i'm, for example, my miracle marketer is still there, for me this is generally a story. so now you yourself are a marketer well, in fact , look if the director here has several companies in which he is present, where the operating activities are not carried out by me. if we are talking about those projects where i am in the operating system, marketers do not take root there. perhaps this is some kind of internal cockroach again. here, leave this mess, perhaps, perhaps operating businesses. now you are leading the traditional three correctly at the same time. well how many people work once or twice in a third business. here is the first business, the second is the third operating management, and reporting 16 people. this is too much, because i believe that there is a japanese system of no more than 6 people in direct subordination, and it should

work for its toppers. that's how i build it myself. while, probably, though concepts delegation. i understood, but even though i practice to the full, i didn’t know, this is a difficult case , this is actually the first step this important question. i'll do it myself, yes, well, but i'll definitely start with the next one, you will never start. i just have such an example. uh, i used to work for a big top 10 bank. eh, well enough high level and we were doing a call center. so i needed a direction to take out the issue of automation. the call center cost was 250,000 dollars. that is, a quarter of a million dollars came to me. so the mayor’s employee is the head of the center, and she says, i say, everything mash has allocated money to us. everything is fine. everything is amazing, write question to the site on c- directors. uh, banks, yes. and this is the direction. yes, we carry questions do. well, great. i say great? let me tell you how to do it sometimes who will do it? you, of course, you. she says, i don't know how to do it.

she ended up texting me. the first there is a text on four sheets. i've exhausted it all. she sat for half an hour listening to the tenth or eleventh version. and weak piece of paper two sheets, i signed without correcting a comma and i spent a month and a half of my life, but after a month and a half. i had a person capable of writing papers directing the bank to the top 10 cost here a quarter of a million dollars and when a couple of years later i was my colleague. i say, let's go hunting, he says, i can't. i have a question to do there. i say, well, it's easier for someone. he says, well, it’s you who work with such employees that we don’t have, there aren’t any for you and says, i’m lucky, yes, yes oh , tell you how you need people. why doesn't it work? why is there no delegation right away, but no, people are enough and educated, qualified and that’s what salaries, at least, which i pay her. there is also an understanding of whether you want it yourself or not. there are certain timings of your life and enjoyment of how much you do micro-management in these three companies, businesses, no more than two days a week, and in time, a month or two,

six months, yes, in general. yes, but in the first company, this is how it began. and more, probably, for nine years. wow. so you have been micromanaging the flower company yourself for 9 years? yeah i like it man where no sixteenth person. it's in flower digging. there are over a thousand there. here, but 16 is directly subordinate to micromagen there, and in a partial case. yes, he is present. let's do it if it is present in decision-making or in my passion. he is uh-huh well, it's a fact, but why deceive yourself? well the other two. how much time is absolute? that is, if we are talking about the second type of activity there, there are 20 employees there, probably one of them takes me one day a week, and then, i want to tell me there about os should not be there just like it. here, i am such a person, sometimes they say, you just did everything. everyone grabs you a lot. if you have less

, it will be better, i know, but it doesn’t turn out not to be high. yes, but it's good. that is, it means that the heart is still on fire. the main thing is to say, here to myself and others, that i am a happy person. well, i'm a happy person. i get high from what i do even when i do it is wrong even when i have breakdowns there is some kind of emotional background that makes people hang themselves. i even admit it often. i understand that the biggest harm is not what i do, but from the point of view of profit there in the company, perhaps this happens from the point of view of the fact that i do not switch jobs. and i bring it into the house. here is the biggest negative of the inability to delegate and leave operating systems, as a rule, committed to people who do not know how to switch from work to home, you know not, and what do they say at home? oh, on the air, yes and wallow, or how i have two little sons of heroes 6.4 years old. here. we

understand that the teacher can uselessly set an example and when i saw them both imitating me. with a phone, they walked around the apartment, fired someone, so you didn’t understand. i'm going over there right now. i realized that it was time to change something. and you know, everyone has an opinion. here i am an entrepreneur, and even more so a serial entrepreneur. and i mean i'll be like this, what's my work. this is me opening the nightstand, and there is money. i take them here and spend as much as you want? yes, in fact, it’s still not so, but in fact you invest yourself, i would say that business entrepreneurship. it's not about money money. this is a side effect. it is the realization of one's own ideas. this is a fight with someone, first of all with yourself and most importantly yours, and the enemy is the opponent of this site, because i always say a competitor, he is in the mirror your main competitor from the mirror does not tell you what to do so as not to burn out, when he ceases to be your competitor , he becomes you. you know, there's probably no magic here.