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tv   Bolshaya igra  1TV  May 24, 2023 11:00pm-12:01am MSK

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everything seems to be in place.
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in the usual photo me and my girlfriend on the air big game today
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russian prime minister mikhail mishustin is in china where he is conducting important negotiations on expanding trade and economic cooperation. today there were important meetings in moscow with president putin, the main speeches were made by secretary of the security council nikolai patrushev but i still want to start from something else. i want to start with the fact that on the territory of russia on the belgorod land, some kind of not fully understood military operations continued, which resemble we again live in a generally dangerous world and with whom we are dealing is understandable. what are we dealing with. well, to put it bluntly, not from some independent group, but from russian patriots who came from the territory of ukraine. it
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is clear that we are dealing with something more organized with something more serious. and that these people, most likely, objectively represent not only kiev but also washington. well , we'll talk about this in great detail. and now let's listen to what president putin said about the current international situation. we see that the modern the international situation is characterized by a distance of instability in different regions , the old ones are expanding and new lines of tension are emerging , the negative burden of conflict is accumulating. the peoples of many countries are experiencing the dramatic consequences of revolutions organized from outside. this state of affairs is directly related to the desire of individual states and associations to maintain their dominance, to impose their own
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rules completely, ignoring the sovereignty of the national interests and traditions of other states. all this is accompanied building up military potential by unceremonious interference in the internal affairs of other countries, as well as attempts to extract unilateral advantages from the energy and food crisis provoked by a number of western states. is russia convinced that there is a real alternative to such a destructive policy of blackmail and illegitimate sanctions? and now let's listen. uh, who is the engine of confrontation in ukraine , russian foreign minister sergey lavrov said this today? the collective west does not hide its intent to inflict a strategic defeat on us.
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the kiev regime is being used as an anti-russian taran, which is being pumped up with nato weapons, while part of the western supplies and an increasing part are spreading uncontrollably around the world. in fact, and, in fact, de jure nato countries are directly involved in the conflict on the side of kiev , such an irresponsible line significantly increases the threat of a direct military clash of nuclear powers. signals are either ignored or grossly distorted for propaganda purposes, what we know about the events taking place in the belgorod region. first, we know that there were active hostilities there yesterday, and today there were drone attacks. secondly, we know that from the point of view of the russian
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authorities, from the point of view of the russian ministry of defense, we are dealing with a ukrainian intelligence sabotage group. we know what the ukrainian side claims. they had nothing to do with it, however, those groups that attacked, they came from the territory of ukraine they wore the colors of the ukrainian flag on their uniforms and they used nato-style weapons and american hummers that the united states supplied the ukrainian armed forces with us in large quantities today, leading military expert ruslan pukhov ruslan help us understand, what is happening, what we know exactly what we suspect at this stage know we know the present moment. uh, three things, right? first
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it is quite obvious that, unfortunately, such incidents are extremely difficult, and fend off and there is even a risk that they will continue in the future. the fact is that the length of the russian ukrainian border. such is therefore the possibility, so to speak, to find a hole. yes, the war will find a hole. let the water find it. it always remains, then it must be remembered. oh, one more thing, that the ukrainians. in every way they violate the written unwritten rules of war. yes, let's say now a grain deal has been signed. yes, according to the grain deal. and we allow the passage of a-a ships through the black sea basin, but at the same time they are trying to attack our e, ships with their drones or a grain deal and freedom of navigation or war, and therefore here they are accused of interrupting something
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like that at all saying some kind of anti-ukrainian propaganda like saying, you were told how many times it is washington that ukraine is a victim of aggression, and all that they do. this is the defense of their sovereignty, for the sake of peace and progress, and what is the one standard in general , depending on your joke, i can joke bitterly. again. you know that good always triumphs over evil, because the one who he won, he is good, because history is written by the winners, they are the losers. yes, all of ukraine is definitely not won, but while she is trying to pose as a victim. i'm talking about something else. i'm talking about choosing a few. small settlements yes, but which are located behind this so-called notch, but the line that russia built . the fact is that you cannot build a line of defense right on the border, because then this line of defense will be subjected to constant shelling. you have to
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pull it a little on your territory and actually speaking, it passes approximately 12-13 and 14 km from the state border, which, moreover , is still very difficult there. yes, this is not a division into states , as in the united states, therefore ukrainians use this, that part of the audience lives, as it were, behind this notched, but notched line, yes, and therefore they are potential victims, so to speak, when a company enters there, soldiery point, but in my opinion. is it obvious what needs to be lubricated? uh, the effect that it had on the whole world, that is, in fact, on ukrainian armed forces fall thumped. yes, the fall of artyomovsk. and despite the fact that the defense was large. baron was difficult to fight for the construction site is extremely difficult. ah, the russian armed forces. uh, put the squeeze on and the ukrainians had to leave bahmut. uh, apparently, both sides, especially the ukrainian one , suffered significant losses in this battle.
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that is, relatively speaking, this is a russian-ukrainian verdun in which the victory was ours. that is why it is necessary to parry medina, but with something else. russian alleged volunteers from the ukrainian side. almost all of them came in with gopro cameras because the task was, not a military task, to broadcast a beautiful picture in real time, and then edit it ruslan uh, these uh, people. it was called themselves russian patriots patriots must be said in quotation marks, well, who are they really, but they are in full control of ukraine, right? you know, now it’s hard to say lenin was he completely controlled by the german general staff or at some point he, taking money from them and driving in a sealed wagon to the territory of the russian empire, so to speak, kindled the flame of the revolution , it does not matter at all they are completely controlled. eh, lenin sorry never. as far as we know
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, he did not. eh, he had german assignments, that he never identified himself in germany , he had his own agenda and his own goal, which at least something subsided with the germans, and these people are like vlasov for me. eh, definitely. they look like classmates. but if you go back to lenin, you know lenin was probably the most successful startup in e world history. that is, it started with the bolshevik party, as a small startup, and then it became google yes, and lenin became power, and you and i went through this in the soviet era, that much of what now does not seem to us as such, then we were taught this at school. these people definitely. uh, how do they remind me of the bolsheviks that they openly want the defeat of their country, and not only in word, as it were, necks, but also in deed, they took up arms and turned against civilians to the bolsheviks, and during the first world war joined. uh,
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there was no such thing as fighting against the german units. this was not the bolsheviks did not fight with weapons in their hands. but the fact that they propagandized their own troops. these people. they go much. further, they do not take a political position, and do not openly go over to the side of the enemy. for me, it is not only terrible that they went over to the side of the enemy. it's that they terrorize civilians, 'cause it's one thing when you go to, uh, go to war with combatants. yes, here few people know, uh, there is such a legend in the historical sense of the word that, uh, the israeli special service mossad is one of the most uh, tough and tough destroys the enemies of the state, israel but few people know that when in the mid-eighties in the mid-seventies, the israeli team in it ordered masada and other security forces. uh, to destroy parts of someone, periodically employees of the special services
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refused, they said, if this person should be killed in battle. i will kill him, but i cannot go to him, sleeping in the house, where his children and him to kill is murder. yes, and a number of people refused, they were replaced by other operatives. so, in my opinion. these people, of course, do not have any human appearance, and to say not just fight against their country. but also to fight against civilians to shoot them is, of course, absolutely unacceptable. this is not the kind of 10 that even theoretically can help them gain political support in russia doesn't it, it seems to me that our people are very good at separating, so say cereals from the chaff. and by the way, this is one of the reasons why with all my respect, and so to speak, there we will say the rejection of both the bolshevik government and the communist ideology. i can hardly imagine myself and one of my ancestors, what would we have taken and gone over to the side of the germans in the forty-second
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year, because we have a bad political instructor, we have a bad one there. i don’t know, medical support, but the germans have tastier pate and i don’t know more long-range machine guns. yes, because this is a moral choice. yeah, they kind of know, uh, calculating the pros and cons you know, i came to america at the height of the vietnam war. and this war was very unpopular. especially among young americans who did not want to be drafted and were in washington, i saw it with my own eyes, and thousands of mass demonstrations against the war none of these young americans. i didn’t go to e, vietnam to fight against my country there simply weren’t such. this is how you explain this phenomenon in the koran, when people who try to portray themselves as russian nationalists go over to the side of the enemy and go to kill
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civilians, well, firstly, i want to speak out about the bolsheviks , they certainly had a lot of sins, but i must say they actually restored the empire in 3 years. actually, they restored it. and in this sense the soviet union was really a great country and thanks to them many achievements were achieved and the second moment. well, why should we always remember the bolsheviks of ivan the terrible? we have a very serious situation here, as it were, of our own. we must think about it. that is, i mean that some references are historically clear all the time that history is linked, but still this period. we have been living for 30 years. without the living, without any bolsheviks, that's right. that is, we, in principle, are responsible for what is already happening there, the bolsheviks, as they say. have gone
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the right historical example. i love the historical example , as far as the historian of the ship apologizes, but for me the correct historical example is the small-timers during the first world war - these are the vlasovites during the great patriotic war. it’s more likely, yes, but you know it’s very difficult here. actually. we know very little about this situations. i personally it seems to me that i somehow do not believe that these are some kind of opposition forces that organized all this, because i do not see them. here in russian society, that is, they are, if someone is, so it is possible that he has already left and is fighting, there for a long time and actually consider him, uh, open ukrainian. this is open in the ukrainian army, but to believe that this is some kind of partisan movement. well, i don't feel it. it's obvious. these are
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structures created by ukrainian military intelligence. it's not a structure. it just is ukrainians and the whole fall distinguish russian from ukrainians. in general, where everyone speaks pure russian. listen, this is a separate question, about which it is necessary to speak, what is ukrainianism, what is russianness? what does it have that difference, but in situations like this, uh , of course. hmm, i get the feeling that it's just staged. uh, the secret services obviously need to say, i agree with ruslan uh. unfortunately, yes, to a certain extent, they achieved their results, because they really diverted attention from the victory artyomovsk, as if it were some. uh-huh brought, as they say, some kind of panic here, so to speak, in the minds of many people, so a certain result has been achieved and, of course, many questions
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arise. how does ruslan say here, well, such a border cannot be defended. i will finish. you say, you say, well, this is our border, which one will protect, listen, well, this is not a conversation during the war. this is not a conversation at all, i must say that the bolsheviks defended the border, soviet power, the border, many of us served in the army and knew that our borders are generally quite tightly protected. therefore, this is not the issue. war, you know, the border must be protected is another issue. what are the problems in what? what is the situation? how how? how to return, but such questions like it or not are asked by the society. these are serious questions, maybe in this sense it’s even, well, sin says , but it’s not that good, but it’s like a lesson for us in order to generally understand they will do it and they will continue to do it. if they see there, we we deal
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a serious adversary for a year and a half already. apparently we need to realize that this is a really serious enemy. which, of course , is completely pumped up by the west, behind which stands all the power of the west, and this must be taken very seriously. let 's take a look at the koran now, after all, who is responsible for these actions, except of course the kiev regime, and the united states denies its responsibility. well, let's see what the state department and pentagon officials say and then analyze whether washington really says that they are against it rise first the state department? there is a message circulating in social networks and other media that us-supplied weapons were used in the attack. we doubt the veracity of these reports, as i said yesterday one of
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our key principles is that we do not allow strikes on russian territory and do not encourage such blows. we have made this clear, but as we have already said, ukraine decides for itself how to wage this war. i liked it very much. we do not encourage ukraine decides for itself. here i would be far away, i would be far away, if the ukrainians did something unacceptable, i would wait for us to do this for a long time already. realize that everything they say in this sense, well, it's just ridiculous to listen to. i am absolutely sure that, by the way, american intelligence agencies participated in all these events. so i want us to talk about the american intelligence services. but right now, i just want to see, you know , it's inconvenient for me to notice america, but, i don't know another administration. and karen, who would
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uh, pity lie, so i can’t imagine reagan. i can't imagine the nixons. i can't imagine. even i can't imagine jerry ford. okay. we can confirm that the us government did not authorize the transfer of equipment by a third party to organizations in the armed forces of ukraine and the government of ukraine did not request such transfers. that uh, and us and apparently even more americans in american citizens are considered idiots. what do you mean you didn't ask, you're saying, i want to tell you that this morning secretary of defense lloyd austin called
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zelensky assured president zelensky that ukraine was not involved in this operation, but our pentagon team that will investigate this is already on the way to kiev and i want to say further that we, of course, will make sure that such actions can never happen again. place. that's what i would expect if the administration really had nothing to do with it. and so it's kind of like that. well, i don't know, uh, pathetic slips of the tongue that only people can believe in, and who are absolutely not or not interested in thinking ruslan, well, you know, there is such a maximum that you can say with bitterness, that hypocrisy is the last refuge of virtue, tell me, but if these two official people who, like a talking head, repeat something on a piece of paper, you said, yes, we
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allowed it . yes, we gave it here for us. uh, something has changed in this studio and for our viewers. yes, we have already made all our conclusions. yes, we understand perfectly. there was a leak recently, but that zelensky a , with the help of his pr-advisers , is cultivating in every possible way the image of such a historical a person experiencing a serious concern for the fate of the world, however, in narrow circles. he demands, relatively speaking, to attack russian territory and kill russian civilians, that is, there is a certain image that is broadcast, including for western donors. but there is a real zelensky , and here there is a reality that we are observing, but there is, uh. the fact that press secretaries, but are forced to mumble of their own free will, because they were given a piece of paper by their owners, so it seems to me that nothing fundamentally changes. fine? basically, nothing changes in one respect. but about the other. i'm not
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sure i initially thought when i heard about this sabotage group. i thought, as i grew up, that it was basically a propaganda operation. uh, a demonstration of ukrainian capabilities, and in general, somehow divert attention from the russian victory in artyomovsk. but now it occurred to me that maybe there was some other motive, that maybe there was a military motive, that maybe they want to force russia to pull up. uh, serious armed border forces and, accordingly, distract them from the need to resist the upcoming ukrainian offensive. there is such a possibility. well, what an idea to tear apart our reserves and make us, so to speak, turn our heads 360 °. and try to think all the time.
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there is no doubt about where we need to transfer our reserves. and in general, you know, here. uh, here is the expression hybrid war. it always seemed to me. uh, well, when some kind of tautology is like butter, because any war is hybrid by definition, therefore one task you have is a beautiful picture, and for western sponsors and for your citizens, the second task is to show russian citizens to sow confusion. and one more thing, of course , to mislead the russian command. i hmm dare to make one more guess. i don’t know how justified it is, but in this studio last time, when we gathered in this line-up, we recalled the events of september 11, 2001. yes, that is, the acts here in the united states later, when the investigation was underway. why did this happen it turned out that individually, is it communities and various kinds of law enforcement agencies of the united states had almost all the information, but in view of the fact that there was no coordination and there was some localism on time in
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real time before the terrorist attack , this picture could not be put together and it seems to me that one of the reasons. why this happened, apparently, is due to the fact that there are armed forces. there is the ministry of internal affairs, the border guards that are part of the fsb, there is the russian guard , perhaps a number of these departments, and not coordinated in the best way. here exactly. in the event of such events, one would like to hope that, as it were, the lessons will be learned in the same way that the americans have learned them . and that we , too, uh, will draw conclusions of this kind, huh? the tragedy will not happen again. it seems to me that war is a topic that differs from most other types of human activity, that it is simply impossible to foresee everything in a war
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; the israeli army is often used as a model to follow. i i'm sure you are better than me. you know how in the third year the israelis initially miscalculated not far from the egyptian and syrian offensive, especially the egyptian one , and then you, the israelis, of course, won, and they drew the right conclusions. they pulled up reserves on the idea that it is possible to be in all places at the same time. there is exactly the most necessary number of troops, when you cannot know this in advance. it seems to me that this is unrealistic and criticism of the ministry of defense is such a criterion, it seems to me that it is not completely fair, i don’t no value judgments, let alone criticism. yes, i'm just trying
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to analyze in some way. but how did this happen and what can we do to prevent this from happening again? i don't have an answer. i have to think, i don't know, you know better than me what a big problem the united states is uh illegal migration from mexico yes, and that various kinds of technical facilities are being built, yes, funds are allocated, however, a huge amount of hmm various kinds of migrants yes cross this border and enter the territory of the united states it would seem america which is not at war. no, it would seem that america is a country that can allocate, uh, billions of dollars to support distant ukraine, probably in some way. actually, the border with mexico could be arranged. why doesn't this happen in the end? i don't know there 70 years. i think, i think very accurate. i think it 's very accurate to say i to them. i think
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we could somehow guess the style anyway. ukrainian work in this sense. they've had a few lately. in general, very daring shares their meaning in audacity. but if you understand that they are acting so, then it is necessary to calculate, apparently, in this way the situation, to prevent them from doing this and inflicting their no less daring blows, because here they did it in belgorod, here dmitry and i are right here here quite, perhaps, and more was. uh, a large-scale plan, well , they would have slipped to belgorod if this was not a mess. and what would happen, what would happen, belgorod is already a large city. it's close enough to the border and it's quite possible that they had a maximum task there. we’ll shoot tasks here, and here we see what happens once and we slipped through, but in this it’s their
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style. this is their strength. i don't know if they come up with it themselves or, uh, american friends. it tells them, but i must say, they act all the time. it was in this way that they hit the kremlin once. well, like a special military one, there was no point. yes, the effect is big the whole world. everything is written about it here with us there all sorts of thoughts, how what is this one you understand this one, but it, apparently, you already need to understand. here is their handwriting their handwriting and apparently you need to they said, it seems to me, a very important thing on the one hand, no matter how not so profitable. well , i said it with such figurative clarity. uh, at least i don't think so in these terms. in this case, it is one of the goals. it's not just a method of course, it's one of the goals quite right and to show us all. excuse the expression, that
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there are no invulnerable? yes, here in moscow, but in the center in the center of st. petersburg in nizhny novgorod, even the senates in the kremlin, uh, they want to demonstrate there that we are nowhere from them let's go like this. yes, yes, that's exactly right. insolence is one of the goals here, and insolence always baffles. this psychological is very accurate, well , then in response you have to be more daring. this is the answer, this time, but there is another, which, on the one hand, is insolence. she acknowledges the impression. she draws attention. it creates a certain feeling of insecurity in people. everything is so, well, there is another thing, that when he sees this kind of attack on
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civilian objects by intentional residents, it becomes more and more difficult for ukraine to convince its patrons, uh, citizens of russia that this war is not against them. no, this war is being waged against them, it is being waged against us, it seems to me that they clearly demonstrate this kind of ukrainian actions, if we needed a reminder, there was an interesting conversation, but between president putin and the chairman of the constitutional court of ukraine as some kind of historical. there was a copy of the map, 17th-17th century, compiled under louis 14th
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. that is, this is the middle of even the beginning of the second, the middle of the 17th century, compiled by their frenchmen by the french themselves, what should he? why did i bring this means that there is no ukraine there; this, of course, in two places is the edge of the commonwealth, the skirt of the franks and the edge of the cossacks and the great kingdom of russia. why i nevertheless ventured to show you, because there were many speculations about where the origins, where, how and what and how all this was formed of the muscovite kingdom ended up as part of the muscovite kingdom. there already then after the october revolution. all sorts of classics of the state formations of soviet power began to form.
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uh, ukraine actually was in the history of mankind for two months in the eighteenth year. after petlyura managed to overthrow skoropadsky, who headed ukraine as a protector from kaiser wilhelm, the kdk , aiser wilhelm renounced his troops and left, the hetman left kiev with them in kropotkinsky, about this very figuratively. they proclaimed ukraine after february of the seventeenth year, they proclaimed it. they failed on this occasion, well they failed, but how would they normally exist, where on proclaimed? yes, but, but in practice, in practice, here is such a complete independence and they had months, two between they were recognized
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some. just, by the way, you know, for a short period, they even managed to be recognized by someone. there they did not control their own, but their own territory. so, uh, there really was no such state as ukraine in history, because even when it was proclaimed, part of ukraine was under the control of red troops , part of ukraine was under the control of white troops of such a state of a functioning state as ukraine never was. and ukraine, of course, on the one hand, became an independent dorik state, because the soviet union was disintegrating also because with the impudence that they were now demonstrating, but i want vlasovtsev to the territory of russia and the then ukrainian
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leader, kravchuk, the former secretary of the central committee, and the man who during the e junta tried to overthrow. e, gorbachev yeltsin he was ready to cooperate with this junta, and then, of course, there would be no independent ukraine, but here it is. uh, the ukrainian government was very daringly used by the weakness of the soviet union and grabbed everything that they could grab even then to my great regret. a yeltsin the leadership of the new russia did not consider it necessary to insist on e, return. shchenie crimea i think yeltsin, without yeltsin's decision, they would not have signed any agreements at all. it was, of course, an initiative that fought for power in moscow, in my opinion. here is the story.
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well, here is your opinion, as engineers of the human spirit and a person who generally understands, but if you want, not only , uh, the structure and facts in folk relations, but also understands, but if you want, some higher spiritual things, that move nations whether it matters or not that ukraine was not an independent state. yes but she really wasn't. in the sense it was not an independent state, indeed without history. well, actually, she didn't. well, this is a historical fact, ukraine appeared moreover when they say that the soviet government created the statehood of ukraine, but this is also not entirely true, the fact that the soviet government included ukraine as a union republic in a large state, that is, in reality, ukraine really had independence just a few months about which you spoke and already the ninety-first year. here is its entire statehood. in
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principle, this, of course, is a territory that was either part of the commonwealth or part of turkey and because of which there was a constant struggle. by the way, at the same time, i am one of those who recognize the existence of the people of ukraine as a people, i think it is absurd to deny that this is a people, that it has its own kind. well , this is a people that existed without their own state. and in principle he is, of course, to a large extent part of a large the eurasian russian people, it seems to me, but for today i don’t recognize, and i don’t recognize the historical existence of the people of ukraine, you don’t recognize, i admit that it exists today no, it existed yes, there was galicia, uh, the hungarian empire. uh, where there were people with a completely different approach to life, who spoke a different language , there were those who were under poland, there were those who in kiev always
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considered themselves to be russians and i think that in general, and the appearance of the ukrainian people occurred in force of circumstances, and between russia and ukraine, and i will say it directly happened. but because someone really needed to create e ukraine on an anti-russian basis. i personally believe that, of course, ukraine ukrainian russian people are from the same root. just a part of the part that remained here in the west. that's what was formed from it over time, but still, i think it's the ukrainian people. yes, this is true in the literature. gogol talks about ukrainians. tolstoy talks about ukrainians. chekha says, but they, probably, so to speak, e knew what we were talking about, we are talking about many who lived on the territory of russia, but we, uh, still don’t mean that they were peoples. in the sense that they were a historical community that had the right to its own e,
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statehood. it's true. yes , there was no state wall, if only look at kiev , and on the eve of the e-revolution, i want to remind you that kiev was not only called e, it was called mother. e cities of russians is a significant part of the imperial family. she lived there on a regular basis, and maria fedorovna, hetman skoropadsky, i want to remind you, he was a general retinue, er, and his majesty. uh, and i think it matters to our understanding of the situation. uh, the fact that ukraine had no people in terms of the fact that the majority of the population had one. and, if you like, identity and one goal, and i ask myself a question. why are they in kiev and they wanted to comply with the minsk agreements. in general, they could gain
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control, and over donetsk, it was absolutely beneficial for them to use the minsk agreements. i always thought they were profitable. and i think everything, and i think i heard from ukrainian officials that they didn’t want donetsk, luhansk back, and i’ll even say that they really did n’t really want crimea back either, because if you took these millions of russian-speaking russian-speaking people out of ukraine, they ensured that ukraine would turn into that anti-russian community that exists today. well, that's what interests me ruslan this is the ukrainian army. it seemed to me that in general, in the fourteenth year, she was not completely sure which side she was on, but that now they managed to reorganize and motivate her or not completely. you know
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army. and in general, as if people with weapons, and this is a separate very complex and at the same time simple story, and at some point you are already fighting not for some mythical, but for the authorities in kiev yes, even maybe not for your native village. if you have it somewhere very far away, you are fighting, uh, for your comrades who died. yes, as if the war has some kind of its own dynamics, so it may turn out that, roughly speaking , there is no country, but there is an army, yes, but i’ll tell you more there is another example there was no country, then the army appeared, and then the country appeared dargiya was not any norway was part of uh. everything in sweden yes, but at some point some people showed that they are better off living, so to speak. uh, i’ll say more separately on the eve of the first world war, there was a serious
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discussion that there would be a swedish, uh, norwegian war and norwegian misars. they came to russia and wanted to enlist the support of imperial russia, that we have worse weapons, we have a worse army, but we have, so to speak, but very militant lumberjacks who will fight, therefore in my opinion. we i don't know just ukrainian statehood. to me it is difficult to argue, since you also did not have such a state in slovakia and there was no bangladesh and there is no pakistan, by the way, pakistan is a very specific state that constantly shakes it. but the fact that the pakistani army is something very serious. yes, and not only for the most part, a very serious air force, having quantitatively fewer aircraft and pilots. and more correctly, it seems to me, a frivolous state with a serious army. this, perhaps , after all, yes, history has shown, after all, it’s already
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serious, probably, pakistan is a state after all, they already. i meant that now, uh, there are regular constitutional problems in this country. and there are economic difficulties, as they say. it seems to me that there are historical states. there is a state created anew. it’s just that some of them work , and some don’t , and there is no state around any one nation of kurds either. although no one denies that the kurds are hmm definitely a people. although, of course, it is difficult for me, unlike you, to talk about these systems. you know you can of course so, to add that is correct. ruslan in my opinion, he said about the army, we really see a motivated ukrainian army today, yes, now, but you know this once again suggests that information and propaganda can achieve amazing results. i remember then hitler in minecraft, in my opinion, he
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reproached the germans that they were deprived of patriotism. one of his these is that the germans are not a patriot . they are not capable of anything at all. this is so to say, means for the thirty-third year to 40 to the fortieth year, when he began his companies, yes, even 39 in 6 years. he created absolutely. for 6 years, he managed to blind the organized ideologically stubborn bundes wehrmacht army, despite the fact that he himself said that he was doing it from material that was not patriotic, vague and did not have any, as they say. here they managed for these, uh, 30 years, and the last one, apparently 8 years. eh, they managed to blind. here it is clear that she is motivated, it is clear that it is, one similarity meant nazi
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germany and ukraine and quite different states on with some very disturbing, as it seems to me, but in common features in common - this is when the russian armed forces began a special operation. many of us thought that well, not that uh. uh russians will meet as liberators, but thought that at least in kiev i at least thought that a significant part of the population. uh, the arrival of the russians will be enough. now it seems to me that most of us have come to the conclusion that a significant part of the ukrainian people within the borders that they exist today, and the kiev regime has managed to build. and not only to chickpeas, but also uh brainwashing.
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so. i want to ask what this means for military action. should you come to the conclusion that all our thoughts are about the ukrainian brotherly people, that this is the past and we want to hope for the future. but, when we are waging, right now, we are waging this war against a hostile state, and of course, we must wage it in a civilized manner in relation to the civilian population humanely, but nevertheless, this is a war with a serious enemy, which is the stirrup of a spear, an even tougher enemy collective west yes, i believe that we must understand that we are waging war with a serious enemy, and you understand, this is already understood here. at all. what that this enemy wants to destroy ours. in my opinion. we still have this to the end in a large part of society.
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we don’t understand exactly, because there is some kind of relaxation, and and and yet these illusions are there, well, and it seems to me that this is wrong from the point of view of that one. the positions, probably, which are sometimes occupied by our, so to speak, ruling elites, in this sense, one must understand that this is an enemy on today and in this sense, i say, it is the ukrainian people. this has to be acknowledged. but this is our enemy today, listen, and in the civil wars of the war, both sides waged a fundamental war. this is what our lives depend on today. well, of course, it must be conducted in a civilized way, i agree, but already, but absolutely without illusions, but we see, what illusions can already be. let's go to the ad and be back in just a few minutes. i
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see how they turn their eyes and to themselves. i think that now they have started sho there fire, something visually very well observed. she turned off, she began to blink and buzz for 400 seconds. flight is normal. there, people have been falling for a long time , everything is there, which means that there, in a cheerful voice, it conveys that the flight is normal, every beat of the heart, compression and flies out. so, the blood bubble and fly. this means that silence and darkness are bloody from this and what will happen in the next second you don’t understand rescue in space on saturday on first
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and receive money right now lexus' greek position is pretty clear. we have one religion in russia. why are the swedes and greeks afraid of winter, i’m afraid that next winter will be even more difficult to hear honestly, what is not customary to talk about in the european union is not about the availability of energy, but now it is four times more expensive more than 2 years ago. this is a very difficult situation, how the euro bureaucrats actually treat ukrainians. tomorrow on first broadcast, the big game ended today prime minister mikhail mishustin's visit to china
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, where he held important negotiations with members of the chinese government with chinese businessmen on trade and economic issues. he met with the prime minister. in china, it's called the chairman of the state council, but in addition, he had a meeting with a dolphin, the main chinese leader, and we still don't know all the details. agreements. it's quite difficult to evaluate impressions that are still in the right direction. and here's how you see korovin 's common trajectory, and relations between russia and china at this stage, when, in general, both sides are unambiguously sympathetic to each other, china is simultaneously under strong american pressure. in general , i think that now the world is splitting into two halves. in which one will be dominated by china russia china will be the first
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number, it is necessary to face the truth , there is nothing shameful in this, as they say, no, but china cannot do without russia unequivocally for china russia is a fundamentally important country with its resources of its armed forces with its intellectual level, so this is tandem in my opinion. er, it will inevitably er, exist for quite a long period. in any case, as long as the struggle with the united states and the west continues. in my opinion, the united states will lose this fight. i think definitely. i hope that this can be done without a nuclear war, as it will be simply recognized, this is because i am not i imagine today's economic power of china, i can't imagine the force
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that can stop it today , given the scale of the population and intellectual power, so it seems to me, well , today there are two obvious camps, let's call them east-west. in fact, they always have been. well, it's global now. ruslan you heard that karen said that it is very difficult to resist the economic power of china, but it seems to me that this is obvious, but it is obvious that until recently we have been like this in china talked and thought, but i hear more and more. especially with american history, which starts in earnest. even take the chinese military very seriously. is washington right to have its concerns in terms of not only chinese intentions, but most importantly of their growing capabilities, china has not only
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the large economy of this large armed forces. yes, in terms of military spending, the chinese are in second place. and if you use the priority coefficient, purchasing power was bought, then , in fact, the separation from the united states will no longer be so cool. yes, china will not be so colossal as the soviet union once conducts the development of weapons throughout the spectrum, which even we cannot do for ourselves , and china has one serious advantage compared to today's russia and with the soviet union china was still very highly developed civilian high technologies . yes , the soviet union had a sector here, when you looked at the soviet zhiguli or did not see something in moscow. you did not believe that this is a country, and this country is high-tech, but at the same time there was buran but technologies did not flow from one circuit to another among the chinese. is this there? and this, of course, is their big, big big merit. yes, and the only thing that can be reproached to the chinese here is why they need
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us, uh, the chinese have never waged a big war and have never even been under strong foreign policy pressure. they are by nature. here are the business people. yes, they are, as it were, when they are subjected to foreign policy pressure, they are a semi-colony and were modern chinese here. but russia it is just very militant. russia has what in the west it is called national memory, that is, here we are able to take a hit, yes, starting with the reflection of e court with the death of the last rurikovich. yes, and then the french germans polyakov. ours is very serious. here is this scenic memory the ability to take a hit yes, even in the face numerically. incoming often technologically, what is there to hide some moments of a culturally more developed enemy. we were able to defend our identity. china, in about the same situation, was torn apart into a semi-colony. he was too big to be eaten
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along the edges and the chinese. this is understood. that is why, roughly speaking, it’s quite, perhaps formally, china can be considered the leader, and in our pair, but roughly speaking, five units of something chinese are three of our five, plus three is not eight, but 18 20 and we already divide this in half , therefore, this russian-chinese tandem, of course, is the key to the preservation of our car, when i say leader china leader we are number two, but this does not mean that this means that they cannot do without us. it's really. you are right in this sense of fear that russia it will become a junior partner of china that china is just like this used by russia, uh, and will not consider it necessary to take into account russian interests. it seems to me that from what both would say of this kind.

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