breakup, you know, that's blamed. e is that she has this decadent thing, right? eh, decadent. that's the kind of mentality she had. she understands everything about normal relationships. this did not suit her, because she needed hyperbolas of parabola and passion. and this is it. and here are the happy participants in prose. yes, she kept talking about the fact that everyone beat her, that she was plaited with belts, by the way, she accused, i say a mile that she had fucked, she also wrote about the lace belt. yes, she did not blame, she just wrote such a poem, they accused surrounding gumilyov that he woke up as sadists , but he whips her with a patterned, two-folded belt. and at the same time in a tailcoat and in cylinders. frag says. i didn’t have a top hat at all then, yes i was, yes, but he says i was known as a sadist. and not only that, she managed to write that he whips not only her but his fans while stripping them naked. yes, yes, but the harness, the next one he

did not make excuses and attributed to dante's hobby, as they say, yes, but she had two lasting loves. at anna andreevna herself , she worshiped all her life - this is alexander sergeevich pushkin and to antalya and she was delighted with the act of mandelstam who learned italian in order to read dante al-gieri in the original, listen, some humanoids are talking completely different. here i am, too, i know so many facts from the biography and it’s even embarrassing for me to pronounce them now with the publisher. no, she stayed. no, they were great. they are coming poems and mandelstam was good. yes, you are right that sometimes you really don’t want to know about such people. ah, household details. well, i want to tell you that when i read it. me too there was a huge program for the anniversary of the pants, and varlamov read uh-huh and when these two people met in the camp. and the mandelstam

did not understand anything at all, and he described the death of mandelstam. and in general, then about him, because when he ended up in the infirmary, this amazing doctor who tried to save mandelstam. she saved, then a slut. this, of course, is fantastic that there was an eyewitness and, er, a writer of this magnitude. and yes, because climbing dolgov mandelstam is such a pain. it's such a pain physical is easy for me, because i even managed to visit the attic. when you start to do something, you start to be dragged, and the hell is after the cherry is somewhere else, in my opinion, 100 km and just the taiga is even expensive. no. he jumped off the balcony there. the first time after which he was in voronezh and in voronezh i went all the way necessary, which means that i was there in all the apartments where he lived and that's all and they took me to the bridge. that's what imaginative thinking is. every day he was his house, where was they. ahmat with hope there

such a lowland, and then a bridge and trains just go, and he looked at these rails. these were veins and aortas for him, and he looked at these veins and the hordes that lead towards moscow and understood that never. he won't be there, and every night he went to watch the trains going there through those veins. you understand, at the same time, being in such a position, a person describes it this way, and you know that i remembered mandelstam taught gumilev's lion, and the phrase my father is a poet's mother is hysterical, and she andreevna did not offend this. no way. she laughed and asked her to repeat, when the guests gathered. uh, well, because uh, they had a very special relationship, and after all, she singled out four people from herself, like that. yes, and she singled out pasternak a model of a strain

of his color and herself and, in an amazing way, so look who she chose all the human archetypes mandelstam melancholic, pasternak sanguine. holy choleric. akhmatov is phlegmatic. this was noticed, of course, by an amazing phlegmatic, fate and so she lived, yes, yes, she was such a gasser, she i saw so many things, she had a funny poem after they completely stopped printing it. she wrote one of the poems dunya went to the balcony. and behind her , the entire commissar stopped and said, perhaps this is my height. yes, and there is no more of it after the 40s on this topic at all. well, how did she write this water, when the lion was released. yeah, yeah, but basically, uh, that was the only thing she did. and when she was told something there, that, and we will not forgive you. but i forgive you, yes, she said,

and who are you to forgive me or not to forgive, you stood at christ's. you saw her explanation. why she did this was a requiem, you understand and an introduction to the river, because i have the memoirs of faina ranevskaya , i just can’t help but remember how the punen relatives rushed to her after the decision in the house was empty, she fled, she was silent, and i didn’t know either, what to say to her. she lay with her eyes closed, her lips grew darker, then her face turned white, it became purple, red, and immediately turned white. i wanted to feed her. uh, not in the house there was nothing to eat. i rushed to the store and bought something, if she refused, we were both silent, yes, well, they do, when everything is perceived, of course, just to some extent multiplied by a million. yes, the fact that they stopped printing her, it was death for her, this is a noose that was excluded from uh.

yes, and they had an amazing relationship in stranevskaya. so they, uh, adored pushkin but if she andreevna bowed, then she simply turned on pushkin, yes, yes, she slept with him, she read, she was jealous, she was jealous. yes, it's very funny that everyone anna andreevna called faina georgiev in moscow. why early in the morning, but the military correspondents did not pick up the phone and hear the voice of akhmatova fufa eat alone pushkin dreamed of a three-second pause from the wind of the neva meal. that's what love was. come on, you understand that you are now what i am talking to you about, someone will call me today from leningrad from yekaterinburg or from anywhere and tell me today i will dream of pushkin, i will say food, you know? it's the same blood, you know? you are the same crazy devotion, so you can not judge. artists are not to be judged. yes no, why do people live at all? well, yes, it is

live each of his life. here you are, you draw from there, you understand the madness. that's what they say, it's your power source. it is your battery that the poet tears his soul into his heart he has no improvised materials due to which he can now works this year i have only one battery i am happy that this is happening now this year 150 years of sergei vasilyevich rachmaninov and i made a huge program with orchestra offering rachmaninov and now we will play already played, samara tolyatti moscow and all the cities of the shell, even in ivanovka we will be a step in general for me. what can be played in ivanovka , where does it come from, where does all this music come from, but always be secondary, because you need to help. it is necessary to solve problems and family and children and grandchildren. well, how can i say, we are all trying to participate in this, but for me, too. hmm

nature, and my happiness, the nature of my regeneration. this is a value. these are great people with whom you can talk, from whom you can receive such a dose of thought energy the desire to live on is sometimes a desire. to live in spite of uh, it doesn’t happen that all the genius is gone, the energy leaves you listening to rachmaninov’s music and something incredible happens to you or tchaikovsky you hear or read akhmatova’s poetry and something incredible happens to you. you read tsvetaeva's poems and sometimes you also want to. and you understand, it’s scary to lock yourself up from everyone somewhere. i recently read a very interesting book, and her son amure is just a huge book about him that came out very interesting and very understandable. many things have become, generally uh, the way to the noose of marina ivanovna herself, it is impossible

to judge people by some kind of impressions. when i was a freshman a very long time ago , i was given to read about maria ivanovna, where her son appeared. i saw his photo. i can be like this, say, i hated him. i just hated him. i realized that this person is the source of marina ivanovna's death. well, today psychologists would be all, and they explained to you why and how from birth? well, you know, psychologists can explain what a-a understand more and their e. well, children are children, yes, you understand, uh, just like san andreevna it’s impossible for you to sit at the table, eat, drink, make love and live your wonderful life, but be inspired by this love. and your son was sleeping roughly on the threshold, you know, and then demand from him, uh, old age. uh, well, some kind of almost no love, a confession of acceptance.

can not be so. i would like you to read something, and beloved akhmata, because you do it. no, it's cold. i just can't just doin' fantastic i can't let you go without this short poem, which is also amazing. and when i read it, i never said that it was akhmata but it was akhmata but you and i weren’t loved, only then we shared the white light with you, the belfry of your way, but my soul lies, don’t feel sorry for me. do you know what unexpected poems and amazing? i'm finishing my program with akhmatova, she had a very different attitude towards women. uh, she loved women and exalted them, but she was very

strict. but could beat like dan to create or laura zhar of love to praise you? i taught women to speak, but god, how to silence them, yes, absolutely amazing, even a poem, because, of course, there is a hit. eh, as if we are talking about akhmato and hits with which young ladies always enter theater universities. well, the sting of the hand is on a dark veil. yes, yes, i am like that too. yes , yes, yes, forget it, yes, yes, glory to you, hopeless pain, yes, yes. king, and i read an excerpt from a poem by the blue sea, but it's all the same. it's wonderful that the girls take it according to god's words to read it. you know i have it when i have a program called 13 starch questions and i am very glad that a

lot of young people come. there is some kind of their desire for hunger, but this is understandable to me. and how can one live without it , how can one live without it at all, today in general, it seems to me that the word poetry is theater. that’s what is so small now, cinema has become exhibitions now and there is in this sense some kind of direct pilgrimage of people, russian culture is what it is and the russian language, which alexander sergeevich pushkin gave us, is something so incredible that it is self-styled self starts, it starts working when some trouble happens. and you understand these root genetic things - the word of music - songs of poetry. their books, they begin so much, as if you are starting to have the effect of the leaning tower of pisa op and now you are on tolstoy op nakhmatova op on pushkin op on bulgakov and they are just

piles like you can today shoot yourself in the foot to abandon russian culture. i can't imagine it, how i want to say that this is an idea at all, what is there, uh hmm, the world community wants to cancel russian culture, they are cancelled. they are stealing from themselves. in this sense, we will use and used, how interesting. you know that the frg e was not in school the subject of literature, but in the gdr it was about the fact that the soul. how to develop? well, by what means, if you do not read, if your child does not read, yes, you happened, then they did not know goethe and there is no hygiene. and this is not necessary. it was one boy who told me that i asked. do you know who dante is? dante oh, i heard dante. ha ha can you imagine, well, thank god knows, yes, yes, i heard them somewhere, yes, thank god that we

grew up, the way we were brought up, that for us everything we talk about is so close and so dear to me i'm holding back. yes, you came to check, please tell me, well, here's my personal request, or you can read it, but hmm how did khamdamov ask you to fresh us with her, and you are my friends. so that you pay me life is saved over your memory, not to be ashamed was a bunch and different, but to shout all your names to the whole world. yes, something is slamming there. crimson

light gushed in orderly rows , leningrad is passing by alive with the dead for god there are no dead. yul thank you very much you are my dear. i love you so much. you are such a talented person. just put a holiday with you, my dear holiday. it was a podcast of letters, and my guest is julia rutberg, people's artist. hello, this is for kostrigery and with you its leading psychologist, psychotherapist, tatyana krasnovskaya and psychologist, psychotherapist sergey nasabyan, and alena is our guest today . hello. hello arina, how are you? come to us?

tell me, my child has a restrictive selective eating disorder, and he is 4 years old and i think that this is directly related to me with my overprotectiveness and anxiety, because i am a very anxious mom, can i even ask what a selective eating device is? i’m sitting here now and i understand that i don’t understand a damn thing, the child eats a limited amount of food, and before 20 and don’t try. nothing new, in general you try to offer him to eat something else there, but he doesn’t even take it in his hand very rarely there maybe take a sniff, but categorically does not try it. how to do it. there other children are also such garbage. but as? in general , this idea arose, so the name of such a diagnosis. yes restrictive selective eating disorder, who is the last person? to whom we addressed - this hmm was a children's psychologist, and who dealt with precisely

these issues. e, which so far has not helped us either. she said that this is called like this. i suggested that i read a book that was called like this. owner when i started reading. well, that is, it was not in vain that a person suggested it to me, probably. yes, i just came across the term. got it. when you got acquainted with this term, it became easier for you inside. i was just wondering about this problem. ah. here are these 20 foods that your child eats, as if a child, like, lives like a normal one. yes, what's the problem? well, he doesn't eat. he is the twenty- first product, or what do you understand? uh, there are some difficulties, because i work, and i have to pick up the child and the kindergarten is not in 6 hours. where then? and at three, that is, i am this, because he does not eat, he has e classes. that is, i will not take him to football, because if he has not eaten, because i understand that he will expend energy there. and god forbid he becomes. it’s bad why he should

become ill, but he didn’t eat. he has trouble communicating. you know, once when we turned to one of the now there is a fashionable name neuropsychologist, and she offered us not to feed him. well, that is to offer something else. here, yes, suggest something else. a if he refuses, let him lie down as a hungry sponsor, we will try that, and on the same night the child became very ill. he began to vomit at night, and i was so scared with my husband. the next day we wrote not to a psychologist, and she said, we leave everything as it is, we don’t touch it, that is, after that i realized that i definitely put water on such experiments from him. and tell me it was always like this when he was born. hmm, first of all, that we immediately noticed what we immediately noticed, huh? so that i don’t eat, i was breastfeeding back then, and she everything was crumbling, that is, he had dermatitis. i even just sat on one buckwheat and still had dermatitis. and then he became older for about a year, we decided to take all the tests and we were told that he had

intolerance. and there was something else about cow protein, in general, we had to limit his nutrition for six months, that is, complementary foods were introduced, but in a limited amount. uh-huh, but at the same time he ate soups. that is, he ate borscht. i wanted to try everything. he tried it right. well, that is, we gave what we were allowed to. he tried it all. he ate. yes he didn't really eat fruit, he didn't eat banana there, but he ate apples and pears at the same time. now he doesn't eat it. what moment everything changed. everything changed about a year and a half ago. it was autumn. hmm. my mother she at that moment, who wanted to be with us, she left with my nephew to take him to another country, and we were left alone, it turned out that i got very sick and i remember that we had already asked to go to the store to buy greens, because i cooked soup for a child. and she threw the greens at the last moment into the broth. that is, it was not boiled, and i had such a feeling, that he seemed to be choking, because

literally within a few weeks after this event, his diet sharply narrowed down to doctor's pasta cereals, yogurt sausages uh-huh well, that is, everything that is very soft is easily swallowed, that is, it feels like choked. he got scared. you were scared, no one was scared. i don't remember us being really scared. that is, i didn’t have any memory left, there wasn’t any emotional experience. nobody beat. they didn't hold him on the back. down. they didn't shake their heads at the time. but this my fear was no longer a child. and how badly i feel. i asked myself for blood to cut the food to prepare for the soup, and before that i washed the tiles. and when i got up to go cook soup, i saw on the board some kind of it seemed to me that this was a remedy. i was afraid that i would now cook ugu soup with this remedy with my child.

although i then understand with my brain that it's just starch from potatoes, but at that moment i was very scared well, your pregnancy, when did it pass, how did you eat? i ate everything you have one child in a row. and how old are you 35 35 plan a second. and, to be honest, we really wanted a second child right away, but after i gave birth. i had a feeling that all my strength was sucked out of me, all my health, and i just, and so i took a whole person out. so i just understand that my body is not yet ready for this, as it is today, when you give your child some new product, how does he react. no, i don't want to leave like this. stay away from the child, the child should not eat vitamins. you can't eat vitamins. so what he has a favorite food buns buns well

bread yes bread loaves, rolls good anything still have a roll with butter or a roll with sausage is good? what is the general food culture in your family? how do you eat in the morning woke up or have breakfast all together or everyone ate when they had time in the evening, it turns out only a weekend, so as a spouse, it is very early to leave for work. and then we wake up. that is, i feed him, because he needs to eat before the kindergarten. he won't eat there. well, tomorrow yourself. well, how did you spread a sandwich for him, and you yourself ate porridge or there was a porridge of bread and butter. at the same time , it is worth mentioning that at the age of four and a half he does not want to hold a spoon, that is, he asks me to feed him. in the morning and evening, he only drives himself. in the last 3 months he began to eat a little broth. even the teacher began to send me a video and , accordingly, so you fed him

breakfast, took him to the garden. sadovo took him away and fed him. yes, there are more than pasta, doctor's, sausage, pasta. excellent . does anyone in your family have or had, maybe someone has some problems with nutrition with some health in childhood, i ate poorly. well, in the sense that i ate little, not limited, that is, an unlimited diet. a little in principle, here and at the age i started having problems with the stomach and to a greater extent. this is most likely due to stress. and your child can eat boiled broccolin, for example, he will become. he is no, he won't. well, you didn't feed him. as i understand it, well, only when complementary foods were introduced, he still ate it, like in a jar. yes, i will continue, i want to continue, respectively, when do you have dinner like liquefied these we sit down at the table, there is a spouse. i am a child first i feed him accordingly. ugh later. my husband and i are eating. and you eat

what you eat as a spouse. i don't know more, but he eats pasta like, well, it turns out, or are you also going pasta at this moment, what, maybe we have pasta? ah, well he's asking you to buy some food outside. there are chewing gum, sweets, sucking all sorts, lollipops, and rarely very much. well, that is, we even go to the store. he, that is, he will come in there. he will say do not forget to buy me. sausage, there frutoni and lollipops. do not forget, but let's say, as some children fit there, there are no such things. and in this sense, desire when he enters some supermar is not even that desire. he just knows that we go grocery shopping for the weekend, and there i always write with my spouse to make sure that they don’t forget about him. yes, yes, that is what it looks like. more, don't forget me sausage my butter well your child ever eats something, but in

nature like strawberries from the garden and tomatoes from vegetable garden, apricots from the tree. no, no, because it does not appear in such circumstances or not. the spouse's parents have a dacha, that is, all the tomatoes, we can try and collect together with him in any way. uh-huh you have pets. no, he sees some pets on the street, he feeds some there in the zoo, he fed someone, somehow they saw him. there he likes to feed other animals. well, yes, do you have any traditional meetings in your family for 100 years , you go to your mother there, i don’t know where else to visit go. well, you know that everyone is sitting down, everyone is gathered there, sitting with you at the table of children. cover separately. no, as if at the table, we always try to put a plate for him, just in case. well, he's leaving to play or we 'll try, then eat with us all. no, he

goes to play and more and more extended your families. there are others. his children are the same age or a little older, but we somehow came. here to visit where the children were. well, there he ate pancakes among everyone there. ate cheesecakes. basically a child. actually eats food. quite to yourself nothing, but it confuses you that he does not want to eat any others and try anything else, because, well, that is, vitamins, as such, he essentially does not receive. no, it turns out, maybe it would be possible to expand the diet, but i don’t know, i remember myself as a child. it seems to me that i grew up on bread with butter and sugar, and accordingly, what i ate during the day in the evening, but i don’t know how i ate any summer let’s suppose. yes , i don’t know about potatoes, well, it’s just that we ate a lot of things on the street that grew. that's why somehow we got some vitamins well? and he, accordingly, does not try, does not eat. and

that is, it somehow feeds on how easily you try something new. i am generally easy, that is, for you. i do not know there to introduce not from food, but new activities some new ways of spending time new relationships. how easy is it for you, in general, to introduce something new into your life. well, in principle, it is not difficult. but maybe just with the birth of a child. it somehow became less. i don't change jobs often. no, there is no such thing. uh, well, like something new i can try, in principle, but i say, it was somehow more in my youth. well, that is, it’s easier, probably like this, but widows suddenly became a mother, yes, and this began to fade away, or somehow limit your child somehow sees you in some classes, where you try yourself new. i don’t know, the child sees you, that you went there and suddenly started singing recently.

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this is to be an example. this is a big responsibility, what is it? well , the fact that you are responsible not only for your life, but for the life of another person is hard. to be honest, in my opinion. and so after the birth of a child, i

tell many friends there i know that it is for me to be a mother. this is the hardest job in the world. that is, only with the birth of a child. i realized that no other job would be like this. this is ugh good. have you ever been to some exotic countries, such as thailand india no, you haven't been. well, only egypt and turkey are all so-so exotic but, for example, how do you imagine yourself? how will you react when you are offered to eat some fried worm beetles, i think i'll try. try what is. you are not afraid to eat on the street, even in the same turkey in the same egypt well, that is, inside, it seems to me that i will somehow reproach myself, well, that is, i think to myself, probably, then you will feel bad well, i i'll try. uh-huh and if the son was next to you and when they offered fried bugs and he would generally not mind, they gave him

a try. i don't think so, why? well , because for some reason my first thought is that in the first place. eh, my husband would be against it. well , i, probably, too, because i myself have not yet well, that is, i probably tried it first, i would have waited a day, and then, well, that is, well, no, what is it? it is unlikely that any responsibility for the role would be to blame, yes, to be a mother, and you easily accepted it. you accepted it right away. or did you think that it would be somehow different, it would be much easier and easier, and it seems to me, and it turned out that in fact, this is a huge responsibility, practically unbearable, it seems to me, yes, well, that is, firstly, i am there are enough people, but the living one was active and here again. uh-huh and you, how to abruptly plant at home you don't really belong to yourself. uh huh and. well , it's a big responsibility to cope with it. ah, it was hard, and after about

a year hmm, a little more i even had depression. postpartum postpartum, well, that is , it was such a delay, how serious it was. it was very serious, because i even had to turn, and first to a psychologist. i was looking for a psychologist, then ah. we didn't get along with him. that is, after two or three months, i realized that it was hard for me to work with this person, and i also turned to a psychotherapist. uh, we tried to resolve the issue. so they gave me pills. wow, about a month. i took them, but i realized that this is not mine. i felt very bad for them and physically mentally. and i left them after a while. i found another psychologist. we worked with him for some time. i realized that again this was not mine, and then

a woman was already advised to me, and we worked with her for about six months. and this, it seems to me , saved me, that is, in terms of time, how long it lasted for about a year, how your depression went. how did she show up? right away it's terrible. and it always seems like before it happened to me. i thought, god, what is depression? yes, how is it possible and only when you yourself are in this state, only then do you understand from the outside to people. probably this. well, this is somehow inexplicable, or something, i was lying in bed, and i didn’t even want to get up and didn’t want to wake up. i just couldn't do anything. i took. uh, at my own expense vacation from work. i didn't work, not even for a while, because i couldn't find the strength in myself to do anything at all. do. well, that is, even getting up is hard, in

fact. yes? uh-huh, and the son was almost there. well , yes, that is, she lived with us, my mother. well, that is, in one apartment. yes, he saw it. in the suburbs well, you and your husband spend time together trying. well, like once a week once every 2 weeks somehow. here you go somewhere, try to go to a cafe or go to a cafe there. how do you choose what you will eat for dinner with your spouse. well, to be honest, lately, we're practically choosing the same thing. i thought so too. ah. what is the probability that you get up like this today, says, today we will eat, for example, there is thai food tomorrow vietnamese. well, or there is vietnamese food. well, here 's how it's possible. or if you offer your husband to eat some aztec cuisine, then he says some sex cuisine has gone crazy, send our favorite tea house. well, that is, we had attempts a couple of times simpler something new and we came across the fact that

, well, it’s not tasty for us and we realized that this is our favorite place. tasty. he doesn't like it either. it's just very concentrated inside him in general, in principle, you know, i watch my son. i have both children, but i myself am the same way. until, uh , fifteen years old, i did not eat anything that was not cooked by my mother. i didn’t go to camps, because of this i didn’t go to any, but practically didn’t go anywhere. and if i went somewhere, they gave me a bunch of products with me, such as sausages, that's all there, so that i could somehow live. i have exactly the same children and watching my son grow up, just at this age i found very interesting, but a defensive reaction that actually exists in all children, but i dedicated it to him, and in this sense it is called nope, like this, that is, when something new is not only food, but also in food offered to my little son. he spoke first.