[000:00:00;00] the crew and our understudies were also brought into the large office, which was not allowed further at the entrance. he didn’t have an understudy, about 20 americans were sitting, big bosses flew in from us and began to interrogate us here and there, then he said, well , in general, it’s us two commanders, a board, an engineer, i admit, you will study the american segment for a week. but we won't let tito in, and the crew doesn't know how it is. you yourself say that it will break. there, the station will be broken and we will not let it go, and everything rested on one and a half to two hours. i endured endured, then, well, i could not stand it. i got up, i say, crew get up. but you understand russian. i say, like, let's

all go from here together with the russian word and we go out onto the porch, which means everything is automatic. she says commander. can i go with you? well , sit down, we put his car so that he was not visible, and there we went to a restaurant. he says, i'm taking you to the restaurant when we come. sat down in a restaurant. this is one of his relatives. he is the most italian by roots and ordered us there and we sit pouring wine. there, that means very expensive, that means french italian and tv. that's so healthy. well, less means, yes, and they directly announce it. here today at the lenin johnson center in houston. the russian crew went on a hunger strike. we started to laugh at them hunger strikes good hungry, that

's how we, that is, you became famous even all over the world there, then the entire internet only wrote about it. well, then let's go home. early in the morning i will be in this hotel factory phone one for the same i'm going. nikolaevich the head of the russian cosmos at that time the greatest commander says just now says go to training. i say, atita, he says to go, there and separate conversations saw talks with us. yes, and we both went to classes, rattled for 6 days, well, without him. that is, he is not allowed to enter the american segment. did he get it or not? do not know how to start how much you flew? yes, when it hangs at the station,

then no one can categorically dock to another docking station, this was accepted, because in general it has been a long time. there were security, 10 10, 14 less. they less usually do not divide. here they are hanging. on the day of our launch, they should even undock and go to the ground in a day. not for the general public. i explain that if our carrier rocket union and the ship that was already taken to the launch pad were put on the road back. no, three days of the rocket's shelf life and after that you can't fly. all of them are not like that, they are all with us at the cosmodrome and the general designer. the head of roskosmos, the head of the training center and the entire government, is the first tourist there, and the first

tourist has two planes. he brought his mistresses there. eh, this wife has two planes. he brought. and here we are all sitting and waiting, when it is undocked and yet the almighty is. not because they wanted to be galvanized. they attack. they would not fall behind and would not ruin this start and some would not fly. they said that they would not let us fly, suddenly we had already lost hope, we were sitting sour and suddenly good news, like victory you know, yes, victory undocked. and what's the matter? i’ll tell you now, you won’t believe them. so the toilet failed, and that’s all and they packed things and we packed it. and quickly quickly rushed. how many flew then two days, then there was a two-hundred traffic pattern. oh, i don't feel myself. oh better

not. my first flight was three days, then there were four turns. well, that is, there are 6 hours, and then you were already happy, in short, and we were scared for two days in the cold. and how did he feel? here he is very bad. i can even say now, i was then, uh, pill injections. after all, i warned him many times not to twist your head, i would have said so with my head. don't move, sit evenly, and he is joyful with him euphoria that he defeated everyone, it means that he fucked everything, dick twirls. i say fuck. and trusted in 30-40 minutes he felt so bad. what does it mean, well, it's impossible and that's it. this is, but surprisingly ordinary, the ship of which was ordinary normal professionally flown. all were booked.

these bags for animals were. and here, no one knows that the tourist is flying. and it must be bad. i mean, baturina quickly unpacks into the household compartment yura our clothes, which are in plastic bags ordinary. we wrapped out of this one as it was tightened with tape. eh, so yes, quickly unpack everything here and put the bags on him and put it on his head, which means that's it. so, here. well, well, not literally so in general, well, it was very bad when i remember what i took with me without the permission of the medical commission. for which i then almost got there, well, after the flight. that, as you had the right to unverified, it means no, certified, it means to take the medicine with you, yes, even in glass ampoules. yes, even with a simple syringe, which must be collected there all this. here, yes,

they already have it packaged in plastic. yeah , that means yes, and only needle is dressed, you take off the cap and prick and press and that's it. here is a cultural tour. but what is this, it means they don’t give. i took a syringe, normal needles, which means that this surgical organ is in capsules. eh, how to break it, this glass is strictly forbidden in space, but i did everything very difficult, firstly, even if you insert it, it smeared along the walls, this last liquid cannot be pulled out. what are we doing, well, we are the people not in vain technical prepared. i tried to hang myself, he is in the middle and unwind, and so, like a spinning top, i tucked my legs. i inserted centrifugal forces, what makes the liquid go to the bottom, i pull out the ide at this time, so

i filled this one, how the air was put, and at first i put his pants on and took it all off right. i read somewhere how nyanka was with him. oh, i mean, when at first i didn’t take off my pants , there with alcohol there, as it should be, like a sister together, and then i got tired of every 3-4 hours, he felt so bad, i told him this i say. yes, without shooting through the west, it’s all right through it, that is, journalists. it can even be called the first space nanny. this was when there was a teleconference later, when he had russell’s head when they sewed up his head, probably , i didn’t hear the first operation, that someone sewed it up well, that he was bald and there was such a blob on his head , you could see it because it was already at the station. yes, this is already at the station, when i began to change i threw it away. probably badly looked after him for 5-10 minutes i was gone. i flew away turned away. yes, yes, i flew to the ship

to shoot kazbeks to change, i feel big, like in a pipe. there is some kind of dangling on his head. i almost killed myself, i flew flying from his head. these are, uh, balls of blood, it means how the heart will pump. that's how he starts. wow and blood flies through station a. how is he? there, and he screams, but already in a weak voice help means, here he is screaming, everything goes for everything . i'm all sweat when i squeezed it between my legs. and how should he be held onto himself, at least to fix it, he squeezed it with no one's hands. no. i yelled. oral. so nobody shouted, all the stations are huge, and they are all compartments. what are they doing there. i don’t know, i squeezed him, and we both fly like this and for a few minutes

it’s good that he was already old, because blood clotting, the older the person, the stronger. and this helped. if he were young, it would whip and whip. and here i am, so this is thick blood. i devoured him and kept holding him and covered in blood. i mean, i understand the hands. praise be to allah, it has been clotted. i got everything from laying and started doing it all. well, how many stitches were put in. remember well 2.5 cm was a dissection right into the deep deep. it fell apart like that, then flew up, however, it helped me, er, that means suzenhealth. this was the american side. yes, she was a doctor of medical education, and she had a powerful one at the time. uh, it means that the medical styling is american and it has such good

ones. i did it for him there. everything was covered up, everything is cool, in general they wanted to shoot. i didn't let them shoot. otherwise, mister goal would be right. he only broke the distance. he broke his head. well, i could break the distance. well i went out behind him, like s. when we arrived, everything was open. well, after checking the leak tightness of the bleed, there was pressure equalization and everything was opened. we usually met bread and salt there, which means that hot food is cold for this two days, right? there is nothing like that here, which our russian does not have, but an order was received from the control center. this citizen should not be allowed into the american segment categorically. what did you say? who are you? i am the crew leader, i am responsible.

i take this titan from my underpants, that's how it should be to explain to people that i don’t weigh there, and he is still small. hunting for underpants and into the american segment. that's how he threw it. i swear baturin is looking at me. i say yura quickly. take this camera. i saw the camera quickly and shoot. and here we are filming it. yes, but one, but one big. i mean, it’s there in this, but the americans remove all the inscriptions there, which means that yura is filmed in the photo, everything was removed and the very first flight over houston. i'm dropping. american in the american segment i don't care. well, here they maintained relations after the flight like because i heard different tourists, then many more flew off, and commanders also forget to fly in different ways. the crew do not

communicate. so it's ok. how are you with him? well, this one he understood what it means, he’s not just me, like a driver, a taxi driver took him out there, and brought him there, and i actually live for him. and in general, as a nanny, i’m with him and that’s why the americans didn’t shout at mister musaev even when there was a teleconference i'm still spacebesitor everything nanny first nanny cosmic well, the return was also very dramatic, we are already flying. all undocked back already flies. here i pulled them. i attract, well, the commander is the easiest. that probably means i’m stronger there, so that i don’t fall out there, i don’t break it, and, of course, i dragged it out a lot. we are flying, waiting for the start of the engine failure. infrared vertical first failure infrared vertical

second orientation is lost everything. soup reported the soup says, switch to manual switch to manual. we restore the orientation according to the vsc and launch the ship for the search. it tracks itself in orbit, which means, yes, but we’ll build everything correctly. and here we are waiting for the beginning engine. yes, we are waiting for the cyclogram. this is the most important point and track the magnitude of the momentum. otherwise you sit down. or maybe, firstly, it takes a second a second for it to start up and work for the required seconds of 115 and 2/10 m / s². nothing has changed. all the same. and so, it means that we are waiting, and suddenly pitch dark, there is little space for problems, why did i feel before that no one takes this

little medical package with them. and here suddenly for some reason i took it. and suddenly the commander says soup to me when i listen. urgently find a medical pack. find pill number three and give to the tourist. i stunned unfasten. there is our business to perform unfasten. but the tightness of the spacesuits has already been checked. you can’t take off your gloves at all, but with a glove. here you see a pill, it 's oak gloves, and i found it and pulled it out, i give it to him, he loses it on flies away. i got the second one or barely got it. perch burrowed, he doesn't understand russian and opens his mouth. that's it, i'm starting

to pursue after 2 minutes, he says, the commander is listening, i did everything. now find pill number five. i'm here, i 'm also getting a stupid pill, and now he needs to speak under the tongue. give as i said, i forgot the language, like a word. i put the circus to him, so i put it there, i just closed my mouth and i say to close everything in german. i could hardly buckle myself and the engine had already started to work. i told yura, you are now alone, and he has experience. no. now they will react, keep track of everything and the sird and the engine, and you understand everything and time. i say no from the clock, and how crushed. the flight was 450 km. it was ballistic no but

what, yes, because the orientation is gone. and we also do not work kv not in the machine. so everything built by eye. well, it was all good, than understandable. that is, apparently not, tracked exactly 0.067 ° 450 km. it's like this. yes, now, so we put on another mask and went, uh, to the force to walk, manual control. this is what i was afraid of here. what an impression, but a long overload, and we sat down with a shortfall of 15 km, and to the zone, that is, it bent like this, which means that his eyes are so big and such skills. he at least said something, just to breathe. so i thought he wouldn't land alive i guess. well, they’ll shoot me there, damn it, the first in the world

took the fool. and i couldn't bring it. apparently he liked it because i read on the internet that he already bought a ticket for himself for his wife to fly around the moon i know he is no longer 61, 83. yes, somewhere in two hours, maybe, well, he is very watching behind you. here we were at his house for a week after the flight, he invited us to los angeles, and we lived at his house. it means that he leads a very correct way of life. that is, you continue to communicate, now it's gone. well, 22 years have passed, then the americans. this is not accepted. they this good that in general he invited everyone home, they were surprised, because they don’t have such a thing. we don't have human relations. you tell me everything there, and this is no, you paid. i, he says, paid the money. well, unfortunately our time is coming to an end. we visited two space stations

of the iss mira station and talked about the first space tourist and the man who took the first space tourist away. this is pilot cosmonaut hero of russia national hero of kazakhstan doctor of technical sciences talgat musaev and i anton shkaplerov - this is a podcast of space stories. when such people as don quixote are translated let it forever be closed by a book of history, there will be nothing more to read in it, as once he wrote about the hero cervantes. turgenev hello dear friends, today we gathered our thoughts about don quixote. i greet you vadim vladimirovich polonsky doctor of philology, director of the institute of world literature, our good

friend archimandrite med, imachinsky candidate of theology, candidate of philology, a well-known dentist. although today it's me, vladimir legoy. yes? let's go with turgenev let's start. and actually, why will there be nothing more to read in the history book, if such people as don quixote are transferred to one vladimir vladimirovich are ready to agree with this, well, yes, of course. and i must say that these words of turgenev from his famous speech, then hamlet's article don quixote, they were a milestone for the russian perception of the course before. turgenev laughed at don quixote, he really was perceived in russia through french mediation, and in general, it was a story about a madman who, uh, fool in his head, what is called beating with these mills. and now,

of course, they could see something else in this, but the meaning of the word has fundamentally changed. don quixote precisely after turgenev, he showed that don quixote is paphos e, sacrifice itself is sacrifice, and to the end , uncompromising oneself in the name of the triumph of a lofty idea in the name of the triumph of truth, as it is seen by the one who sacrifices himself? and in general, this is the most important thing about a person. let's talk about this, and let's say a little later, father, mine. do you agree, uh, with turgenev's statement, in general, its comparison. very interesting. in the sense that cervantes shakespeare died, in general, on the same day, hamlet and don quixote also came out at the same time the first part of don quixote yes, that's why he compared them, but in general i have a difficult relationship, to be honest, with don quixote, because with one side is really like that's on the issue, everyone. eh, experts. here are the norwegian clubs of writers. this is the best book

of all times and people. yes, just everyone, and indeed. i still have the figurine at home. this is the famous don quixote, where he is with a book in a hat wonderful, that is, this is a very important soviet time. it was straight, really not some kind of cult character. eh, that's what i understood on the one hand on the other hand. here's to the end to understand, what is his secret, and bane and attractiveness. here is such an influence in the good sense of the word, about which one. vadim also says, uh, i still can’t finish it, and in this sense, i’m wondering, our program is all, yes, that was my next question. i'm still with a quote from turgenev to finish, i'll remind you. uh, colleague context, because turgenev says what he says, he says that he loves ulcinea. yes, he did not see her in general, when he suddenly saw this ugly peasant woman. he said that she was bewitched and turgenev writes further. we know such people. we saw people who saw beautifully. i am not quoting now. but it seems to me that we definitely convey on the beautiful, but in the ugly and ugly and

died for it, and then this phrase goes on, with which we started the thought is not at all obvious, is it worth dying when you do you see the beautiful in the ugly? what's in here? and so to speak, the great core truth. what else is there to die for? as not an ideal from the point of view of turgenev, yes, and in general about this, but those who inherited turgenev spoke a lot in the conversation about don quixote. uh, i don’t know about this, in fact, the block in my article, the knight-monk, dedicated to vladimir solovyov, who also came up with her own eternal dacha from, uh, such a stage point of view, yes, which, in general, is not, and so on. for him. it was reality. it was his reality inner mystical experience. e, to stronger - this is the reality of don quixote's inner experience , at least, almost to the end, until the moment when, in the finale, he experiences an internal upheaval repentance e. well, and further we remember how everything ends, and therefore you think nabokov

will write his lectures from don quixote, of course. who is dulcinea is death. such a paradoxical conclusion is he about this about what you just said, it’s true yes they are quixote in general uh, cervantes uh, the opposite is on the side of christ on immoderate anti-flobert such you understand, which i do not remember that he had two chapters ago. there is error upon error, spitting on details and so on. this is completely anti-nobokov's approach and nabokov is just cards with a plan. and, of course, as a result of how it says that the serving on earth measures. e backdrop right there not convincing there, spain didn’t know her like that at all, no better than gogol, he knew central russia from the stream and so on. a. well, anyway, i still have to admit. here he has such a beautiful image there that nabokov and sancha - these are two figures in the sunset sky, they are far away , they are small. well, they cast great

shadows. these are the shadows throughout the history of human culture, and some of them, as it were. the contagion of the reverse perspective here he is forced to admit that these shadows are still all he is unconditional. he starts with this one. well, in fact, hatred, but he ends with don quixote, well, almost a declaration of love, if you read the lectures here, but i know, uh, with your permission. now moving on to the content. that's what i would like to ask you in continuation of what we started. ah, well, like this from the main question. yes, but perhaps having sent him lotman's book, that the book is not limited to what it is about, therefore, a stupid question, what is this book about? i will not ask you a question. i was born like this. so, when you read this book, or let's say don quixote for you, that's what is most important there, or maybe this semyon once said, it's not clear and what you can't accept, let's say. well, in addition to what has already been said. well, on the one hand,

firstly, the fact that he is 50 already with him. and what is he like me, too, yes, everything is fine. and all that, uh, but on the other side. this is a real monk. yes, he is fully committed to the ministry. and in general, he sees, uh, the world in a transformed light, when he is wearing such vr-glasses, uh, don quixote walk. that's why she stood and the courtyard turns into a knight's castle, where courtesans turn into graceful ladies. eh, and so on, he sees some. uh, some enemies there, yes or they see, on the contrary, some incredible expanses. that is, this is such a factory of good thoughts. yes, as if the elder paisi said in the sense that he did not important. what are you doing? what are you doing, you plow the land there, i don’t know, you are building, you are fighting, but it is important. with what feeling do you do it, for what, uh, and this goal-setting, it justifies. all the rest. well, it's actually, really pure nun. moreover,

here in the figure of don quixote. there he takes a lot. the other and the name, yes, that is , some kind of knighting, these are still monastic rituals. yes, his ascetic life, that here he is at night without sleep. there is no food. there for a long time and so on. that is, in it a lot of this from the monks, and at the end he already accepts the scheme. on his deathbed vladimirovich but for you, what is the most precious thing in this novel for today, but aching. uh, the sympathy of the protagonist is a feature of the authors to evoke this feeling in me, how do you read and in general the ability to force him in e to those who are infinitely actually higher than you and more than you, because well, what kind of don quixotes there, god forbid, under sancho adjust. well, sancha is also very difficult. it’s not at all simple, and her brains were the first to know about it. it's in at the very beginning he said, yes, and they, of course, still resonate with an umbrella and a and sancho still rises

to the heights of the king of solomonos in his courts. yes, there are direct, but during the governor of his island. here. in general, i, of course, this semyon has the right to talk about what i don’t have the right to talk about, but, uh, what he said is also very important for me and this directly correlates with the personal path of the most complex and and with the dynamics of the plot. from the end of it from the path of the uh author himself, because uh shortly before his death, servantas becomes a member of the brotherhood, the third brotherhood of the franciscans, like dante , by the way, in his time, hooray! yes, and then accept. eh, tonsured, yes, in my opinion, in the last but still, and already in this capacity, he writes the finale, yes, where the subtle move repents, where, as it were, this, of course. true, er, like the revelation of christendom before her. he sort of kneels down accepting

her truth well surrendered in what what is the truth in that you need to subject yourself to oblivion yourself who fought with uh mill, who uh? alkal, more precisely, who passed all this way, but the point is reached from the horse you were thrown further, indeed, by some, like a final scheme. can you please tell me why there is such a disparity in ratings? here we are now, even these symbion, he seems to have said, it’s not clear there, but we agreed that there is an ascetic monk, lovely, dear there. eh, schimnik, in fact, but the spread of estimates is enormous. why is the father? i think that cervantes himself provoked it. with these confusing references of theirs, to, as it were, other authors, that he has nothing to do with it, that he is there some manuscripts. eh, yours are lost. there is one chapter left unfinished. but you need to look so that they don’t translate from arabic, yes, uh, and then he positions it himself, as a parody of a knightly novel, he directly talks about it on the one hand. that is, no matter how

seriously you treat his work, but on the other hand. there it is crowded, as we have already said, people are precisely the sacred scriptures. there are very serious no with these funds. why does it cause? i mean such a range of assessments of the hero himself. why the same nabokov although it would seem to say again that this is right on the letter of not a proservant, but he is called this encyclopedia cruelly. capacities an explosive mixture of everything, where everyone, if desired. can pull out one or the other from there, right? well, in this sense, nabokov is no longer even close to me. and borchis, yes, which is this terminator, the author of don quixote, his story is wonderful, where, as it were, the author of another time, the frenchman writes the same don quixote himself again through himself, but, as it were, in a new setting with the same words, not in what he rewrites imitates, but because these the same words can sound exactly the same in an era. yes, this is an absolutely amazing

idea. eh, that is here. uh, if some smart people start thinking about it, then they really get out of there. i mean , something extraordinary. and it's not related. vadim vladimirovich with the dynamics of the image itself, because don quixote at the beginning of the first at the end of the second. he. well, it's just a completely different person. he changes and matures. uh, the wrong word is he the serpent is changing, as obviously her cervantes himself was changing with there himself he is from the first years of the seventeenth. uh, the seventeenth century until the fifteenth year, when the second volume comes out, it's already been there for 10 years. yes, in my opinion, the difference between the output of the first second, yes, the fifth and the fifteenth, but it was written that i began to write. he used to of course yes, well, that's not the point, but in fact, from the very beginning , the multi-level nature of both the image and the story is still set. in general, a largely paradoxical equivalent and, uh, the image from the very beginning from the first chapters speaks of what is striking, how insane he is when is given from here to the progress of the case and as far as he

rests. yes, but from this it begins to unfold further. uh, long long. e, there is a suite of e situations where don quixote manifests himself in very no measure. yes, he is insane precisely wise, he is an amazingly educated person. yes , his education is the education of a humanist, brought up by a high revival and at the same time this man who speaks like a humanist. uh, brought up by high renaissance from the italian school there already yes. uh, remember that this is geographical in italy yes, for many years servantas himself, and he goes out to fight for the triumph of paseism for the triumph of the golden age for the past for the truth of chivalric novels for the integrity of the medieval world of vision with

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candidate of theology, i am vladimir legoy. yes, we gathered our thoughts about the great novel of miguel cervantes don quixote. do you disagree with the assessment that he is a renaissance man or is it too flat and that he is a very multi-level image and this one gives such an amplitude to his friends rejection, because among those who did not accept. uh, there were figures. on a grand scale. they only stand for nabokov. yes, for example, thomasman's view of don quixote don quixote was extremely restrained, and philosophically restrained. i would say yes, apology subtle move - this is rather a story characteristic of two national traditions of its perception, russian and english. it’s a little more difficult for others, but nevertheless, at home, too, after all. well, of course, yes, and you mean, in addition to, so to speak, yes, that's about insanity. here, in my opinion, in the scene when he is going to fight there, someone asks the sanchur, your master, is insane. he says he's not crazy, he's

bold. here father semyon don quixote is insane the leader of knowledge. i think at the same time. this what means? well, boldness is generally such a christian virtue , in fact, yes, that is, uh, as this is a common phrase , the lord does not like the fearful, uh, yes, for whom there are places in the north lake. yes, that's why he 's a christian. it seems to me boldness in the sense that he is open to exploits to protect the oppressed is another matter there, how is it all in reality, what does it lead to? it's the same, well it's another textbook. why different? yes , when this poor boy says that it is better, i would have perished with you all the knights and he really. well, it's on the way, it's on the way. this is not the final. yes, in general, it seems to me that to add to them absolutely true words that my father uttered and he, uh, that, he is not easy. monk knight-monk there you can still see what is associated with growth in the eastern christian tradition. yes, he is a holy trigger holy jester

, only this is not a model of behavior. ah, deliberately chosen. he does not understand his own something, tricksterism uh for him. well, it's his glasses, of course. this is how he sees the world. this is how it feels. eh, this is somehow special and kinship is never chesky. yes, well, it's very deep. for some reason i just remembered. here, listening to you about this celebrity medieval stories about the juggler. mother of god yes, that's a juggler , yes, who did not know how to express his reverence, stood in front of the old virgin, just, well, depict what he depicts there in the circus. yes, and in this sense it can be compared, because after all, where does the eastern christian come from? its growth is a little bit, of course, this is a tradition, most likely, it is french and it is no coincidence that we'll figure it out at the station. now we are moving from monks and we will start with philologists, we will finish, we will start with