this. well, you never know that he or some congressman is there, this is what we have laid down. it is mainly related to the west. nobody ever asks. but in vietnam they said something, like this is the elimination of a certain complex, which in fact no longer has any basis, but it , apparently, has been laid down. that's it for years of confidence that our development can only be catching up, therefore, even if something was blurted out in slovenia, then we need to somehow, perhaps, sharply give an angry rebuke, but still, it seems to me, this is it vanity it, firstly, distracts. secondly, it is lower, it is not necessary, i remembered it wonderfully. this one, what's it called? meme? yes, when two buddhist monks are sitting there. they say what they say, i watch the trees grow. he says you're all in a rush. yes, this is a very important and interesting topic for me. in this new history, the emerging system of international relations, religion, as a worldview basis, what role can it play? we can probably talk. beware that religion is coming back from

on the periphery of socio-political relations in its center, our colleagues from mgimo even talk about the webonization of religion , that is, the use of religion as a weapon. this is what awaits advanced western neurolinguistic techniques in this sense . prompting him to action, prompting him to an indifferent perception of what is happening and carving emotion. emotion is the fuel of action due to the fact that the techniques of working with e, the human soul construction, they become more perfect. i think there are a lot of instrumental approaches to getting people to take action and sometimes covering it up as cues. you are talking about that of this religious motivation yes religious motivation.

pivation, yes, i do not rule out that religion in the east , including, can become such an active force that will, well, motivate certain political programs there, india gave such an example, especially since there is no such differentiation that we accustomed to in the western world. yes, that is religion as socially autonomous phenomenon - it's all the same in the first place. uh, for- western heritage is like that. yes, well, firstly , there is not a single moment in the history of mankind when we could rigidly divide here. here is the final religion. this is where the power politics and stuff has always been used and will be used. and what about will it? uh, religion props of some new era? i think so, because in general it’s very bad with support, they all leave ideologies, they scatter, they are reduced to caricature absurdity. at first we watched for a long time when this cartoonish absurdity brought from the left.

the idea is now liberal, but now the main thing is not to allow the same absurdity, and even, god forbid, with the help of religion, not to bring a conservative ideology, from which it is also possible to build such a monster, although in general. this is a very healthy approach to life, so i think that religion as a living and developing creativity of the spirit is absolutely necessary. but if someone tries to use religion as a bridle for progress, so that society develops, so to speak. that's what i think, nothing good will not lead and nothing will come out last i have a question for you. it is such with an educational dimension, you just say these cards in your hands, taking into account what we managed to say today and everything in general rooted in the knowledge of history and the formation of empathy. in

relation to the country you are studying through the knowledge of the languages ​​of its culture, traditions and the ability u to interact with uh, a representative of another country in a way that is interesting to you, this is the fundamental basis on which the russian soviet then again the russian tradition of historical hmm was based and i believe that we should preserve and develop it. we are now conducting a study of ways to train diplomats in the twenty leading countries of the world, and there is absolutely paradoxical. we observed you compare how you study. yes, its own approach with how it is done in the whole world. and there are amazing things, for example, in some of the countries there is no actual textbook on the history of international relations, somewhere they do not study foreign languages. i believe that this is a strategy somewhere for entering the diss service. no special education required. the guys, having entered the type of service, then undergo a training course that is ganic in our opinion. these countries are losing time in preparation. diplomats, because

it’s expensive of course, it takes 6 years to train a deep fundamental specialist in regional studies with knowledge of the language, understanding of history, and not necessarily a good one diplomat. but at least he has a cause-and-effect connection to what 's going on in the world. they will be properly arranged and will not be prone to new experiments, which we must do in the training of a diplomat. it is to strengthen their ability to interact and communicate in this new environment, where you need to take the initiative to firmly defend your own position. the actual platform to interact in the discussion so that your point of view it is your point of view that looks like the closest approximation to common sense here is the median of common sense with this. it seems to me that there are complexities in the large information space. well, i work at the school of economics. uh, we don't train diplomats. we are preparing other international specialists. yes, yes. and andrey said the absolutely right thing, i also tell my students

all the time that there should be a complete picture of the world. this is how the cause of the investigative connection, how one affects the other, because the problem of many people and even world leaders. uh, it's that they have pictures no they act. here they are momentarily solving problems. and in fact, for a long time it was thought that this was normal? why is everything? right now, the world is so complicated that it is very easy to get confused, get lost and lose, in general , a compass, that this one, all the more abundant information in which you lived, you absolutely do not understand where, where, where are the ends search and so, therefore, we need a base representation, as in general, here is a structural representation, and then already. well, everyone will have strength. by virtue of their abilities and knowledge, fill this structure current events. but here is the whole picture from here. actually, we need a theory. why? well, they often ask, especially we have students there. well, what for, i need it, then i

will go to the corporation to deal with oil. well, the fact is that anger is also taken from the same international relations that wars are in full swing, which means, in general, they have changed little. yes, how can i recently one student not from our university hmm uh, who is also going to go somewhere to the corporation and said that 8 million people live in india, so in general, it’s clear that i think he has it will be difficult with a successful business. thank you very much, dear friends, fedorov international observers andrey shushentsov deans. faculty, there is a hero of international relations. i am vladimir berry. we gathered today to think about what is happening with international relations. thank you hello this is a podcast of the psyche, where i am a journalist, natalya loseva and my co-host , clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological

sciences mikhail khors, unravel the labyrinths of psychological problems of tasks. well, different here are some of our beautiful zakovyk heroes. today we will talk about the divorce of our heroine, the famous singer natalya vlasova also experienced a divorce 5 years ago. i went through a very difficult divorce. the most tragic painful situation in my life. e. it seemed to me that everything just collapsed, that is, all life stopped at the moment. i believe that it was the most correct thing that heaven could send for an amazing one moment, you know, remained. for example, i can drive up to the house where we lived for 15 years, right? and suddenly, and it's completely uncontrollable, i start sob. just here it is. i just get hysterical. this is a very rare case, well, once every six months, probably, somewhere i can't explain why i'm crying.

why because, because i am aware that everything is much better now and we are great friends and so on, but you know, this is the feeling that the feeling is not there, you know that something could be for you -otherwise, or you know, here is such a moment that everything is of course. how old were you when you met we met when i was 20 you already were on stage at that moment, and you know , almost only i shot a video for the song. i'm at your feet, literally. after 3 days we met my husband. my future husband, so i had 20, he was 205. and you are just children. yes, he didn’t know any of the artists at all except alexander rosenbaum, my oleg mityaev. therefore, the fact that i’m not there at all is one of you at all. he we met in st. petersburg and he and i were born there, and he was engaged in a simple business

with nothing to do with show business, uh, but we had love at first sight. you know, it was such an amazing feeling when a psychologist says what it's called, when you know, when you look into your eyes, and you can't look. look, you think, now he will notice, he will notice that i am not indifferent to him, but, as it were, yes, that is, it is impossible not to count and it seems that you are just all undressed. i'm this myself this is my most beloved. you know, when i don't even have flirting. this was once in a lifetime. it was with my husband. it's amazing. that is, i met them for them you puffed, passion love, and you soon got married. yes, we lived 20 years together 20 years a month and we have a daughter of 16 years. yes , and the last 3-5 years there have become so much relations. complicated, well, that is, we just became strangers, that is, we

had nothing to talk about at all, that is, he did not accept mine. um, well, he never really liked it. this is show business. that's all that takes a woman from the family. well, how would these trips, well, in general, everything, that is, he is such an hmm introvert, that is, he has a home image life is not to go anywhere, where there are a lot of people, that is, my whole way of life. this is the complete opposite of how he wanted to see his life, but it happened. it's crazy love it took 20 years for you to understand that you understand, at first crazy love. she, uh, compensated for everything, that is, the person abandoned his business. he followed me from st. petersburg to moscow, he did what he didn’t like, because he believed that i was writing brilliant songs, and he simply had to. well, that is, it fell out like this, what do you do? of course, he is the person whom i am at night and for little, when he thought that everyone was sleeping, sitting in

the hall. by the fireplace, listening to my songs under the piano and thinking, in general, over all this, that is, he says, he was the main sympathizer in the world. that is, roughly speaking, when no one could believe in me, he could give the last money for us to record a song in the studio. i remember very well the time when they plundered all his business in st. petersburg from him and we lived only for a day on the money that she brought, well, our business with him. well, that is, mine and he helped me in everything and i remember that there was a situation when we broke a piggy bank to buy food, but at that time we recorded 5 songs in the studio. well recording in the studio. this is very expensive, of course, and there have never been questions that, perhaps, otherwise, and then we came to the moment 7 years later, when the daughter was born, here it is, and that is, the point was born 7 years later, after that, and we got married too 7 years later,

because we didn't get married before. that is, when i got pregnant, we decided formalize the relationship, and we signed and but by this time he was already your essentially business partner. well, yes, that is, we were some other labels, there were some companies. you know, when we moved to moscow in 2000, and our daughter was born in 2006. ah. we periodically tried to collaborate with different labels, but let's put it this way. everything didn’t work out for us, in general, to the point when i got pregnant, we came with the fact that he realized that show business was not his at all. well, that is, he can't seem to find out how his life, because he is an extremely decent person who doesn’t understand what such a word gave. tomorrow he was abandoned there, some of these things are completely impossible, so he all understood that he had gone into some other business. yes, he just started a new business in moscow from scratch. and i gave birth to a child, and 2

weeks after the birth, i already performed and that's it. he didn't care for me anymore. only such an adviser at home, yes, but he could, well, he certainly helped me, there is money there, clips , some kind of clip to shoot and so on. even though i'm there 10 years, did not shoot anything at all, in some period, gradually, gradually, we came to a point 15 years after the beginning of our relationship, in which we simply had nothing in common, since he did not travel. me for any of my business. he did not attend my concerts at first because he was worried, and then because he simply hated show business. that is, for example, i played there with a valentine's gafft on stage for several years, he has never been on ours. well, never at concerts. uh, there i played on the stage of a musical. he too i have never been seen on stage. well, that is the last 10 years. he was nowhere for me, that is, until a certain moment you were connected with him

by a common cause, yes, then this business flew apart, that is, only the house of life and daughters remained in common. yes, and how you made the decision to divorce, it was his initiative of your initiative, since we, a, endlessly offended me. here is his. well, as if indifference, to which they came. that is, i understood that and what can we discuss if i come? i have some kind of life event for me. yes, and he may not even ask to see which one there. what song did it end with? well, that is, well, completely you, of course, excuse me for interrupting, but for me this whole story is a huge egoism. from your side of mine, right? yeah, it means that while my husband was investing, he was running around, watching concerts, drinking all his money to the penny. you must have been with him. i don't think so at all. here he means that he has ceased to be interested in your work, that the business and the formulations immediately began

to have nothing in common. we have absolutely nothing to do with anything. and after that he went. no wait, as primitive as possible. yes , i can ask a question to both. please tell me if we always instead of music or show business. yes, let's say any business of life, any business, i don't know, master , laying tiles in the bathroom, so, including from the side, it looks like i have a life's business, then my partner is obliged to participate in this business. not much. so, he went out. so what, this is an infinitely primitive such a look. i don’t understand that you want very beautiful such lace to betray all this, but in fact happened. that's what. well, if you want to, you can, of course, formulate it this way. no , everything was different in my life, tell me,

when did you start so much and he had his own business of some kind. here's yours , to be honest. here you are now, as you remember it, yes, your conversation and in the kitchen there, well, or in the car, you were driving somewhere. they basically revolved around your interests. or they did touch on what he was doing. and you know , there is this moment that he was doing what he was doing, just for the sake of money. well, that is it was not a day, uh, he can practice, as a talented person, this fifth tenth - this is not something that even he himself would like to talk about. well, it's just business. i just don’t know, they sold, they bought, they sold, well, some things like that, yes, he refused completely without reverence from his business when he decided not, but of course he was, because he drowned around the engine, that is, his business was pulled to pieces, and because he drowned in what he does at the waist, tell me , he had no doubt that this was the right one deed. he understood that he could either follow me to moscow or we would part. that's why the ego did not have a choice at all, yes, either

you follow me, or we part. i didn't propose to him at all. he himself decided to make this choice. but i really did get to know each other. i already worked in moscow already, and like you go there with me or he doesn’t stay. no, no, it doesn't sound to me. i want the opposite, i went to moscow on business and on one of the trips. i arrived and, uh, found that he had moved in with me, deciding to live with me and and be with me. that is, it is just completely birth. yes, 7 years before birth. but you didn’t have love, accepting this person other than you want, not drowning in your personality, you didn’t have a sublime one, therefore, as soon as he stopped drowning in your rays. you said we have nothing in common. goodbye, psychologist appointment. usually they look, please keep that in mind, you see, i'm now concluding that it's very right i'm doing the right thing, that i don't

walk anything. i'm the only one, of course. can you say what you don't like, yes happy and my husband. now, after this divorce, many people also feel like we climb in, well, it’s just where we are from. she is not very much, who loves both him and me, lives from and his family of the new ismai. we have one big family of your husband. that is, now you don’t have problems, in principle, now i want to shout to the whole world, please don’t tolerate relationships in which there is no love. casting the first came actress yes , she was many more months before michael douglas agreed with me to be an excellent hero books. it seems to have been difficult

for 5 days to mount it so that the scene does not look like another physical pain, other emotions to be yourself only because she found demonic traits in herself and everything came out the scene when the heroine lays down during interrogation. the basic instinct of sex is death and sharon stone tomorrow on the first all of a sudden everyone began to think that i am such i lost custody of the children because of this film. yes, this is a podcast of the psyche, my

co-host mikhail horst my name is natalya loseva and our guest today is singer natalya vlasova and we are talking about divorce, correctly, i understand that this path to divorce, it was like that for your spouse. you know, business failures are marked with milestones. why and where does the business of failures have to do with it? well, because he finished his business, which was then started in moscow with another business, which is a business. and there and there he was not successful. he was not successful in show business. and when he did everything else, he was fine, of course, i knowingly clarified with you both. is it possible to transfer this situation to some other profession, because i know families of doctors who divorced because they worked in the same department. yes, i know families of teachers who divorced because they worked at the same school. and we can find more. unfortunately,

there are many examples when people get divorced not because they fell out of love with each other, so many marriages burn out burn out. it’s just that these ashes turn into volcanic ones, when men and women, in addition to love relationships, children of everyday life, also have a common job or some common working summer cottages, it’s very correct that we stopped working together - this is glory god bless you if we continue to work together. we would never live 20 years. let's go back a little bit. so here it is. tell us about the circumstances of the divorce. as i understand it, as far as i know, there appeared information that there was another child of yours. yes, that means, uh , this is the situation in which we, and as strangers, could not communicate with each other at all. it led to the fact that we decided to live apart, he is in the country. i

didn’t know anything in the city and pelagia. well, as if at work dad it’s more convenient to live outside the city, while i’m in the city and we came to the country for the weekend, we all talked together, and then normality yes, and yes, and so it went on. uh, 4-5 months. i did not allow the thought that it was possible, well, if there is no bad and happiness, just go get a divorce and find other people. that is, it was something incomprehensible to me. that is, i listened to the stories of others and thought how they do it at all, but this is the same husband. this is the arm and leg, how can you unfasten it and move on. that 's when we parted for him, lord please, do this, so that just here, so that i don’t know what, but so that the whole world just turns upside down, in 4 months. so he came and said pelageya would be a sister. that is , god sent me what i asked him, of course, to voluntarily tell it at that

moment, my world literally collapsed. that is, i had a feeling that they just cut off a part of the heart, a part of how it was, dear, pour me, please, there's tea. you know, oh by the way, bad for the sake of going sister no, but yes. we did have. well, sort of a strained relationship. he just came there to see pelagia. i don’t know, there to kiss her before going to bed, for example, after work and went to the country. and back where and hmm here, he just came one evening and said, we need to talk and just said it. well, he was kind of shocked himself. you didn't know he had another woman already. no, i don’t know, well, usually children are made with those. who you have known for a long time. no, it was an accident that no one planned this child, that is, but how would he be such a person, an accidental accident. that's when you left, that's how you then i have no idea what will happen next , that is, will we be together with this woman,

because it's all just that fell like snow on our heads, but the child will be like, well of course, i was in total shock. i cried for 2 months 2 months. i was in such a tragedy that, but then i realized that you , as a psychologist, would probably give me an answer here. and it was in fact. at this point, it was selfishness. that is, like , not because i need him not because i i would like to give birth to this child, but just how it is, how it is someone else mine, that is, there is something very mine, that is, there was something in it. that's why yes, you can excuse men for people, but still psychologists are here. yes, we make recommendations. some kind of self-calculation is needed in the plural. yes, here are recommendations for men not to drown in women. come on

, don’t give up everything for the sake of women, even if a woman really wants and demands it. that's all the same, leave something of their own, including yes, it also leaves. e yourself too, to wife here they can’t, yes, they can’t hear, focus, but don’t drown, don’t cut off all their own, because, firstly, 100% is not appreciated, it begins to be perceived as the norm, of course, what does it mean that another person has dissolved in me. this is at first very nice on the personality. no. that is, when a man begins somehow to return to his selfhood, it turns out that you don’t need one like that, what is it? ugh? phew, i just belong. it is very important for me that a man be a personality, that is, i would never in my life want him to except for me, well, this is just a story

told, i, you know, want to finish this thought, it is very important that here i am at this moment. that is, or rather, when three years had passed, i absolutely sincerely came to the conclusion that through this shock, through this shock, well, first of all, uh, god, the universe , can call heaven whatever she gave me. that's what i wanted to return the bottom of everything turned upside down, yes, and without this. that is, he did not give me the opportunity for us to drag it out for another year, because on that moment we have been here for 3-5 years. we were saving our relationship, and it was, but absolutely a regression. how did you try to save this relationship by telling him that he should be. eh, are you dissolved again? well, i even well, why do you say this nonsense god live. this is how tenderness was shown to him. i immersed myself in his affairs and wondered, what would they do in their lives in their affairs? i was not allowed to

do this, of course, absolutely of course, when i had to come home from work. he didn't tell, yes, listen to such a deal. how to tell because there is a goddess, and here you are with his business, well, it’s impossible in things he told, but, in principle, he didn’t like it when i was the other way around, what’s there, but tell me how it is. he liked that yours or somehow got hair. well, it’s not there, but global things, i knew, but there, like , tell me how the meeting with this, like that, but he liked to have some kind of space of his own and i didn’t have anything in common with him, except for pelagia. what are the last 3-5 years about? no, that 's the point, because when asked how i'm doing , he's not interested in hearing that he's not loves, of course, that is, you understand, this rejection has accumulated, which i even tell myself, i didn’t want to understand anything, yes, and that is, and we are interested in his life, how it’s possible, naturally. i

was interested in him, as if in life as much as. yes, we have his whole life. in fact, it happened, well, as if in our house , that is, friends all came to visit us because he never liked to go anywhere, so his friends are our mutual friends, they all came to visit us, and we don’t know there behind large tables by the fireplace, if it's summer, then there are tables on the grass, without there talking endlessly. we didn't have anything in common. is not common, here are the friends were common. well, you know, there was an interesting moment, by the way. tell me, as a psychologist, when friends come, everything is fine. i mean , we're wondering, we're talking to friends about what you're pretending to be and, uh, pretending to be a happy family. you really felt good, that is, it was much easier for us with friends than alone, as soon as guests such silence left, and there was nothing for us to talk about. you understand, that is, we continued the topic there, i don’t know about football, about the weather, about

the police. somehow they had just been with her that year and you don’t understand this conversation, and he had nothing. this is the first time i'm talking about this. i think for the first time i thought, but it was just like that, was it possible? what do you think? michael and by the way, what do you think natalya could this marriage still be saved? i 'll keep it in mind though, this one. uh, a very important moment, when the topics for conversation do not end because those topics don't exist. yes, we are, when we communicate with dear loved ones, pleasant people. we don't make that up over dinner tonight. i'm already talking about, it's the proximity of the openness of the news they already have. yes, they have it gone right? this is good. let me tell you how my wife communicates with her mother. so she keeps a plan for several days, what to tell mom about, my god, and then sit down on the phone and tell, because my wife wants to talk with mom to find

common topics. and he knows that, perhaps, mom herself, well, won't do that. yes. this is how a person goes about himself who wants to find common communication and a psychologist, because there is a word and a rain of matter. and everything, as between a man. it seems to me that there are other cases, you need to look for guys for me very much, and the call was so shaking, yes, when these moments come, when you start to annoy. well, that didn’t bother me at all before. well, it’s annoying that everyday things that you haven’t paid attention to for years, but here in the classic it simply says that there is no love, that’s all about what came, the crisis, you know, but here we are 5 years of information to convey infantile to consider that there should be no crises. why should they tell you, you can't hear me, we've been trying to overcome chris five for 5 years. what to do? it's huge. let's try. i

suggest you now hypothetically imagine that there is also a magic sharman who puts time back and there are these 5 years for your question. it was possible to save a marriage, and how it could be saved was the only way, i think, but not when you felt the crisis. there , the responsibility is on the man once again, this is his dissolution in life at the waist. yes, it led to the fact that they lived for some time, here in the clouds we and then the usual real life seemed to them a painful gray. you don’t need to drive relationships there, you know what happens to most people after that when they fall there, right there. develop. and what is it called? here is this syndrome, when from there to there? and what do you call the love that we have there? and we are not publicized disorder. we were not separated for 7 years. and uh they just breathed each other. this was what had to

be stopped. of course it was necessary to breathe without each other. we had to part. it was necessary to think a little like this and decide that or maybe there is something somehow, this is how our life goes , that is, they should have understood at some point, yes, that natalya was done wrong at some point, she i should have realized that they were an oversaturated period for each other. yes , of course they overheat and it was necessary, especially since i did not in vain focus on the fact that you have a common cause. not at all let go, even to the store just one, so that there was an understanding. i mean, we got it. listen to this straight up victim. my husband did not let me go, that is, 7 years. you sated each other, didn't you? yes, it was overkill. i think that initially, if in these 7 years we are so right, you say that the husband is his own business. it wasn't right at all it was n't right that he uh got into show business. it was wrong

to devalue yourself and be such a servant of you, but at the same time he knew about the triangle. yes, there is a tyrant, a victim and a judge. here at first he was like yours, i don’t know , he served as a savior or served as a victim, but then he became such a tyrant when e no, i won’t let you into the store. here i am, yes, i am not. look, it was wrong on your part to get high. like a drug addict to sit on this needle of this constant service, and on his part, of course, it was wrong to dissolve in you further on your part. the mistake was that you obeyed when he said you wouldn't go to the store without me, i should have said. bam darling i'm free human. i'm going to the store without you. it's nice, i'm enjoying it and unmistakably it means that when

we parted, they each shared that it was a shock for them. and for me it's the norm. it was as if i didn’t understand that it was possible in a different way, because if i ended up somewhere alone, we were on the phone all the time so that he wouldn’t worry that here i live, i’m alive and healthy, that is, roughly speaking, i have there was no personal space, in general it was, well, as if absent in life, we had only a common space. it was wrong. now, that is you at some point. that means, yes, you understand from that. well, although you know, when i got pregnant, i remember this pregnancy, and it was the happiest period of my life, and we became even happier, when i was pregnant, really, and so we wanted to talk efforts to talk endlessly now. how do you know how and what do you think, it is possible to live with a woman and not feel when she is happy or unhappy. and the man is happy. they certainly can you have no evidence. that he was happier acted like a happier person. yes? would he like maybe we were shown

very much during pregnancy during the misalignment was creepy when pregnant. he started his own business. he left show business and began, so just when i gave birth to the maximum, everything was harmonious. i just then thought that it's great that, like, i had some kind of even, happy family life. and that is, after this beautiful plateau, it began, as i understand it, gradually. yes, yes gradually. and he means you why, because what did you start to resist, what did you do , what did your husband do wrong, that everything was fine, look, first of all, this is another very important point. you know what he said, he tells me, they devalued it plato plato here is the price of equal happiness, in which there were no outbreaks. here are these prominences that burn everything out. you understand, this is it. oh, shortness of breath from

happiness and from experiences. just how boring how bad it shouldn't be, but let's just say how boring, probably in 10 years. i came to this. after the birth of my daughter, that is, during this five-year crisis. at this time, i lived with the thought. what do i care, i want to live in a different life, that i have completely different needs. i want to travel the world. i need communication. i need emotional experiences because i write songs. that is , i cannot limit myself to everyday life, and at home alone i have nothing to write about, that is, i have no feelings, no emotions, in general. i felt like i was dying. you see, that's why friends, in fact, finally, friends, if you are not a servant like this muses, yes, and if it's not difficult for you. to you yes, choose yourself, too, not a creative person. choose for yourself normal and

normal people who are not creative. yes, it's very difficult. it is very difficult. i don't understand at all. i know, when we broke up, in general, when people break up, they usually go to astrologers and psychologists. that's it. yes? of course i went too. and they told me that for all the horoscopes there, for all the cards in general. we are the most unsuitable people for each other in general, that is, here, who have nothing in common at all, how we lived for 20 years. it's because here is our crazy love. see, oh complex. i have a feeling about this story, because on the one hand. and now i see natalya who, well, in any case, very convincingly tells us that she is lucky that she got out of this divorce? well, of course, pretty wounded shabby, but in the end happy. yes, there is with a sense of some kind of correctness or it was definitely a gift. uh, you have fate and heaven on the other side, or that

situation is in vain. it's true, i don't believe that much. you know what his. i don't believe. here this e in this doom and predestination. it seems to me that after all, at some point we make mistakes that can be avoided. we do not have enough wisdom to prevent them or not enough. we, perhaps, but some kind of humility lack of pride in order to correct these mistakes, and then, of course, when the firewood is on a broken line and when, in general, there is nothing to collect from sawdust. you start to look inside yourself. well why would that be right? i think you know your most important moment, which is that we were just approaching the threshold, 40 something years before 35-40 years old. that is, when you clearly understand. and how do you live your life, is it the way you dreamed? or in another way, and you already understand that this is not a mid- life crisis. yes, yes, classic, when we start

thinking on the one hand about death, on the other hand, about our youth. here, they bribed a land plot in the cemetery, they bought a motorcycle here, yes, well, i'm talking about men, if you are under 30 , you understand that you are still just looking for and you are still yes, everything is ahead, and at 40 you already understand that in principle, but how would be a plus or minus, but have you come already. you should already understand. this is how you live. you like it. that is, i now live 10 times more life, which suits me just for me. well, you certainly admit for yourself new relationships , including them now there are now, of course. right now they are just a hundred times more harmonious than what it looks like what you had in the first years with your first not at all. and what is it that makes it different? and you know, he doesn’t love you, so he endlessly and madly loves you like the first one. ah, but where are you from? do you know how a woman feels about this proof?