just an eternal image and images that live independently, we will probably have to gather our thoughts on this topic again and talk. i just wanted to ask. hmm . do you have any favorite children before quixote? i'll start with my own confession. i really love the japanese author and shusa klenda, a wonderful writer of the 20th century, a japanese catholic. yes, quite unexpectedly , perhaps, for japanese culture, he has a novel of the fifty-ninth, in my opinion, the year 1950 , the ninth dear mister fool who when we were translated for some reason they said that it was exupery there something like that. although it is completely obvious that this is dostoevsky's idiot, but by and large it is income. so to speak, in the limit, the hero who a means it turns out, and do you have any favorite don quixotes, he has already sounded. of course, he is a mouse, but he takes out some of the most obvious image, but if we continue the topic, the idiots date was so wonderful. already a french author of the 20th

century, a recent one, and this is how it is called to me, how i was an idiot. i don't remember it now surname, but here, too, yes, that you are from this series so immediately more. and i love your heirs very much. uh, don quixote in the english classic novel. it's called from fieldingas. yeah uh, here, uh, this is joseph andrew - this is andrew from and to dickens to the picnic. and here, well, here are these figures of pastors of eccentrics in the most ancient pastors. wow. it's like that. uh, gallery, very interesting very curious. for me, this is very warm the heirs of don quixote are warm - what does it mean without big people, you understand without, uh , hanging over the abyss of risk here. eh, so in english muffled well. oh, it's warm,

worcester live bait will do. well, by the way, by the way, yes, you definitely see how we turned around, but still, our dear lev nikolayevich myshkin and here is he in what kind of dialogue with don quixote is the prince lived with us , poor wind hmm complicated dialogue, but rather it is for dostoevsky the same for three daughters. uh, such a kind of landmarks with which they constantly compare the prince, and well, dostoevsky of course, prince christ named the manuscript and uh. similarly, he saw, uh, income. and of course, his famous words that if everyone always proved to me that the truth is not with christ, then i would have dragged the truth to remain. yes, this is a long hotizom.

for dostoevsky, he is conjugated by heirs. this is not a dialogue. it's like, he's more of an emanation even in them for the author. well, the last question then. and we have marked so many forks. yes? the question is this, and it is clear that every time every generation reads such great books in its own way. and he learns something about himself, including about his time. here, what do you think today, with the help of don quixote, we learn about our time and about ourselves? well, are we mired in consumerism? i am now like a damning passport. you have to hit something. we really need to make it to the final. yes, but he really is, that a person, uh, for the sake of an idea, let there be the most crazy uh, for the sake of ideals, let's say so. uh, he's ready for anything, for any sacrifice and leave all his possessions, all

his opinions. eh, that's another matter. here again, i repeat, what follows there, how wise it is, how much right, but here is his inner readiness for a feat. such is the e, which we are now clearly lacking for everyone . first of all, i speak to myself in relation to danka, but today the situation is tragic. because we really need those knights who will rush to find the windmills and show that in fact this is the truth. giants yes, somehow in modern civilization. she is like that. yes, this is where it seems, the mill is there, there the evil giants are super, but on the other hand. i am the most terrible things in the modern world can be happening in the name of the idea and this seduction he er was deeply and well heard by the culture of the twentieth century. but uh, let's say the hero of chingura chivengora. platonov is the heirs of don quixote too. yes, here. well, you have to rethink. we need a savior don quixote and he can

be a terrible substitute, so to speak. thank you very much, vadim vladimirovich pavlovsky archimandrite, he is from tochi. i am vladimir igorevich. today we were gathering thoughts about cervantes' great novel don quixote , be sure to re-read it if you haven't re-read, friends if you like to gather your thoughts with us, then all the podcasts of our program. you can find one tv.ru on the first channel website. creative industry podcast on channel one again elena kiper, roman karmanov and i media manager general director of the presidential fund for cultural initiations a little more. we will now say that it is imperative that elena kiper is not only a producer, but also

a music video maker. today we have a wonderful guest ilya averbukh honored master of sports of russia olympic silver medalists in dancing on ice. and now i’ll tell you how ilya loves to be represented for the last 17 years, at least by the director-producer, and not only ice, but also spectacular shows are correct, absolutely everything. well hello. hello. let's go back, then it's already 17 years, uh, 19 years ago, when you left, so to speak, how many years have passed from the profession? yes, 2003. here you are leaving the profession in our romance. representation is so it looks like he left the profession and immediately became a famous producer immediately. all in all the ice show began. this is how it was, but it was not like that, everything is absolutely not like that. eh, it really is. uh, 2003, when, uh, we ended our sports

career all the time after lopachev. i accepted that we had previously trained in the united states of america, just that mekkali reached that moment, but i decided that we were returning home and we would build our careers at home, but it was connected, first of all, with the fact that i wanted to create exactly something different in 2003. we returned home. i tried to try myself in several, and anyone is already a person who has tasted the media that makes him famous, of course, i still want to stay on this, we know, yes, i want to stay afloat, therefore, of course, so many athletes run, and someone on television goes into politics, therefore. i came back to figure skating, but only in terms of already creating my ice show. if now there is really an ice show, it is but their abundance. yes, uh, in general, some kind of ice show takes place every month. we have a lot of different projects, at that time this

the genre was generally e in position zero. that is, it was during the time of the soviet union. so we were not allowed to perform in western shows, then such an internal tour was organized, it was called, in general, a tour of siberia, er, in the cities. ah, the guys went like this, you know these legends, that the guys, after the tour, left on the volga on the volga there, black people are a dream. what a sharp person? you know, just, probably, somewhere in the seventies and the eighties, even, probably, the seventies after that a huge role. uh, tatyana played in the creation or ice of such a theatrical industry anatolyevna tarasova and igor bobrin and then it was a single team e igor bobrin e ovchinnikov yuri ovchinnikov and tatyana tarasova created a single team, then it split into two teams of the theater igor bobrin, the theater of ice miniatures and, uh, the team of tatiana tarasova all the stars, both teams go their own

dear, and i know that i don’t remember theaters and mushrooms, there will soon be an anniversary of that, they had a very e on me then marveling at the play rasputin, that is, such a deep reading and when tatyana anatolyevna such a show performance. i remember her great program, at the end they had a number, new york. new york, uh, golden top hats. and that, too, was all absolutely to blame. yes , the creation of not just divertissement numbers, but the creation of performances with these performances. tatyana anatolyevna traveled half the world. but i think somewhere. here i am now the only one here. i may be wrong at this time in the eighties all. it stopped altogether, although anatolyevna returned. she gave us victories with lyosha yagudina e, with katya gordeev gordeeva and seryozha grinkov pasha grechuk or oksana grischuk and evgeny platov marina klimova sergei ponomarenko is all that later tarasova tatyana

anatolyevna brought more and, probably, not everything will be, and ilya kulik, of course, and the genre, e, ice story. in general, he calmed down a little, calmed down, and somehow he lived like this, and therefore, for almost 20 years. this is how figure skating happened. in fact, it was not popular, but they were sitting at tournaments in my time, for example, this is 2000, only the grandmothers and mothers of the participants. here you can watch the championship of russia, this is sokolniki usually passed. here is another palace. uh, now glory, god will be reconstructed to do, in general, and so here we are there and such is russia and mom, dad and here is some kind of behind -the-scenes story, uh, of course. on the big push, uh, here is the olympics of the ninety -eighth year, i'm sure you won't even remember who won there, but it was the triumphant olympics. for us, the ninety -eighth year. i have ideas hello here

and after that salt city is just the scandalous first scandalous olympics we won very few medals was the first the doping scandal was the figure skating scandal carefully their rulers who won the olympic gold a big scandal in the press some kind of solomonic decision was made. i feel great strength. it was necessary, and the wisdom of the goods nikolaevna moskvina, that the guys also went to this award, there were a lot of questions, they handed over the second gold medal. if someone does not remember. what, is it unprecedented? the story of our canadians was olympic champions beyond scandals in dancing on ice. but, of course, it shook me up. it's already 2002 year. and now, as i remember now, we are in america, there is a teleconference going on, the studio in moscow is all

excited, everyone is discussing, of course, getting up. nikita mikhalkov screams, that's it, come back to my battalion of your medal. and so on. and of course, this surge of interest here. and with us, he still loves a little, of course, and to regret, and to those who did not guess, especially. and i, probably, could conditionally capitalize. i would say to monetize, but it was from the point of view of the ice show that it was a little easier for me to start, because here we became second in olympiad but here is the feeling that something was not done there, and so on. i still think that everything was absolutely correct and i emphasize it directly, but i used it by creating my first ice show, which took place in novosibirsk and forever. i will remember this small ice tour from six cities. everything, it was on one enthusiasm. no one at all, uh, a priori, did not believe that it was possible at all, now, again

, everything is everywhere, and the guys were all in america in russia , they skated exclusively, if at the request there was no commerce in this story of the figure skating federation and speak did not go here, because they believed that all the money was there. what is there to perform here? if you really need it, then the hope that the federation will give you something more as a result of this tour in siberia the black volga, apparently not, the volga black didn’t smell there, but i really signed commercial contracts with all the guys, that is, they were pulled out from america and pulled them out of america. it was my victory. from a commercial point of view, we have done poorly. well because i can't do anything. yes, what year, uh, it was just the 2003 world cup. and then another 2,000 in 2004, and it went badly badly, because the palaces seemed to be full, but uh, many employees of the palace had a lot of friends who entered through the uh service entrance and so on. in general, we could not

control anything at all and it seemed like a complete palace at the box office, not a lot of things, and in general, that’s all. it’s not very correct in terms of logistics, it was spent there, it’s not this one, although it was such courage for youth the guys who were pulled out of america didn’t have such a conversation that they sat down after all this. well, after the first time and i listen somehow, you know, we’ll go back, you know absolutely correctly the question was everything was compensated by the amazing reception of people, for example , we are all still sitting in this in kemerovo helmets. we are being transported with these lanterns. uh, you have no idea, we get on the bus, well, we get on the bus. people come up and pick up the men and swing like this in the bus. reception, so love is the russian soul. here, yes, therefore, uh, of course, uh in terms of logistics. yes, we went by bus for 600-700 km.

now the roads are much better than then, it’s winter, and i, so that the guys somehow feel comfortable, but they twisted the back seats in the part of the bus with their hands, threw mats there, bought these bags, sleeping bags. and just like that, that is, we had part of the first bus that was driving. and there were those behind. uh, in this bus, in general, on mattresses. here we will have a type of sleeping, a type and so on inside. ilya verbukh felt. yes, what are these tests for? that is, i saw something ahead. it's very. it was just neat you know. back well, you think with your mind, here's some kind of strategy in all this was the desire to prove that i can , there was a huge desire, uh, to create something of my own, because in sports i was very crowded in this regard. basically, we ended up quite so relatively early. i was still 29. well, it could have been skating for another 4 years. well, that is, you could still pull

this story. at that moment we became world champions, and in general, it was possible to fight, although it’s not a fact far, because they pressed the taste of the katamaru and it’s not at all a fact that we would hold out, but we could continue until the last time, as many people pull to ride, then already i really wanted to create something of my own, this is right here it was the main , so it was given the power to open the cabinets. that's how i danced in front of you just now, i also danced, there by conditional sponsors. which banks do not exist for a long time, right? or they poured somewhere, there, uh, in front of each other, but here i am saying, what is a figure, what is ice show? i'm telling you, i have. i say, well, here comes the skaters, we turn on. here we have creative industries, i turn off the lights. uh, we have a beautiful light. and here, uh, like this, but it was, then, if you remember, there was such a channel sport, so it was organized. we also dragged the tcp to the same place, novosibirsk, to show this show, that is, it was a huge job, but because to

promote it, but the second was very important. whatever the cons were to pay off the guys, so here is the start of 2004 next year will be e. well, here's 2004 to 2003 how to celebrate, in principle, we decided to celebrate next year. we will be celebrating 20 years. anyway, what are you doing? this is generally called an organizer. hmm , not everyone has the ability to organize, and at some point they must be recognized in oneself. this is before that step, when you are already doing it, when the guys need to prove everything, and so on. here. that's when you realized it, maybe in childhood. i don't know. i was a leader since childhood, for example, i always wanted to build a class, i ran, everyone ran after me. well, it's not like that at all. i have never been a leader. uh in class. i have never been a leader. i even think, if, well , we can analyze it a little bit, that this kind of leadership of such a champion

charisma that and her a interfered with me. well, we 're crazy like a guy. well, maybe more breathed to become exactly the dream olympic champion. everyone. ah, everyone's dream. that is, i conditionally assumed all the time that everything is a little better. especially since we have such a sport. you know, it's not that i ran a ribbon in e, but that's all, who cheated on whom. well, so conditional . eh, the substance is mobile, and even when i ask, i, frankly, just somehow know how i jumped out of order. guys, oh, they say, well, maybe, well, let's go and we went. and this is how it looks like. there is such. definition, it's called leader by necessity. that's probably close, i jumped out, then even then it seems like, well, somehow you can’t retreat. naturally, here, as i said, there were some financial failures there, it is necessary to go out. then, naturally

team is formed around you. this is a very important part. you can't go. e, there it is clear in the beginning it goes. yes, there must be an impulse, there must be a push, but if you don’t have a team, if you don’t have people who believe in this idea, and i ’m very lucky in this regard, because the people with whom i started 20 days with me are still work. this is ekaterina herself, first of all, and the director of my projects. this is peter , she is in her husband, who took over the organization, there is some kind of contractual commercial understanding in general, because besides courage, as i say the name. a name, of course, like you, which helped to call, helped to open the door, helped to take the first step, but there must be a process behind all this, people must understand that this is not some kind, but flew all together. i should have a structure there and should be, but to me, uh, it's probably different that i was interested in it. i didn't delegate it to anyone. that is, it was not. so,

well, i'll come to the beginning of the walk, so that everything was open, the curtains were opened. and i already took it out. e. well done. we all went through together an advertising campaign, a targeted program where it will take place, and everything is immersed, a poster, how it will be mocked up. uh, of course, all sponsorship packages are personal meetings with everyone and working out with a full understanding that when i pronounce i understand, i see the whole company with which i will speak, this is a lot of important components, uh, which were all along the way, so it’s very important for me that this is really both a producer and a director, because of course, when it’s just an ice show, at some point i realized very clearly that here we are we are talking about competition, what is it today , what am i doing, i'm just an organizer who gathered the guys, well, conditionally, well, he called it a leverbuch show, they covered it up with their numbers. they arrived one day before the whole story. well, we divorced the council. i'm just the one who collected them, and in general, paid them

money. that's it, my component. well, i organized we drove the road and ate. well , that's what it is. it's nothing special , it's very cramped, so i quickly started thinking about how my show would be different from everything else. where should we go? how can we do it? it was nothing like looking ahead. i understood that today he would see this mechanism just like that and tomorrow lyoshka would be there the same there and we would gather friends, he would go. alexei yagudina happened to be an antagonist. uh, to be honest, ilya verboks is himself, because he is a revenge in front of himself. well, just from what i hear, how the show mechanism mechanism was found. eh, at first it was. so i 'm talking about the analogues of the united states of america , the guys go out and skate their numbers. we just the only thing i see is that not everything is dreary, there are 2 slow numbers, one is fast. well, uh, the maximum task, of course, at that moment what was

focused on, to ride show tops, but because that was also a problem. uh, in the regions they didn’t believe, in general, that such names would come, and the skaters didn’t believe that they would be paid. and this is how they had to be connected to prove that it was not easy, as all the stars would be there. yes? well, who? yes, but that exactly those who were announced will come to win love and understanding and faith of trust viewer. it was very difficult and the trust of the guys is that if i am on the schedule, this does not mean that it will be canceled tomorrow or something will happen, yes. it will be it will be paid there. it will happen and so on. doesn't matter. i say often programmed, but anyway. this is the core of the mechanism, but at some point i realized that this is how i collect, but i did. well, once i collected i collected i collected, so further inside, at first i went myself to put them in the numbers, that is, the choreography went. that is, at least they have those numbers went, some kind of light, story line appeared in the show, an understanding of what we are talking about, and even if the guys were invited to other shows,

they were there under a contract, they could not skate the numbers that i did for them. at least i was already exclusive in this. where did the knowledge of how to put numbers come from? it also did not fall, generally thanks to the first edge. as they say under a lying stone, water does not flow thanks to these corners of mine at the ice industry. i was invited to create the ice age project, which turned our lives upside down, which i will be grateful all my life, because there i could really and within myself. now, if where i jumped out, i ’m like a producer, then here i became like a choreographer, i didn’t stage anything, for a two-year period, in general, except for internal ones. dancing and night uh fantasies that i would turn my choreography over the world was nothing. so somehow i saw something, in the end. it still saw the averbukh show. this is who is not, before that there was a call from another channel. you know that there were two projects. e ice and also i had a meeting, but there i offered only uh, to the participants. as one of

the members who rides with the stars and then on the next call, i'm given carte blanche like this. i can, of course, i spoke poorly, i can not understand anything, but such a chance , how can you not use it, how can it not be realized at all, and then even when i entered the office in freedom, that i generally lost it and from happiness from everything. and of course, uh, let's be honest. this project is not invented, but by me. yes? this is a project that was born in the uk but with a difference. according to the project was the fact that all its internal, component was really completely redesigned by me, my guys in my team and proposed. that is, we generally made it, just about figure skating and creativity. and it uh worked you know how many ice age seasons the first season was uh called stars on ice. if anyone looks, there, we're still all

in tracksuits. i am a coach. for everyone, this is the romance of two-minute numbers. uh, but that's it, then the story was born, that number with the idea. this in general it was such a revolution. in general, then the story, then a lot appeared and of course, what is next season. i thought about where we should develop and realized that figure skating. well , as it were, there was also a battle, of course, training and proposed the candidacy of sasha zhulin, who is very grateful. this is a very creative creative person. and a great coach, unlike me. the one that brought up, and olympic champions. they are roma and vikto nikita kotsalapov is dreaming of a brilliant magnificent silver medalist of the beijing olympics and he proposed sasha and then the ice age was born. the history of mentoring was born, which, in general, in fact, then appeared in many other projects. i won't talk anymore. who is there, but it was an absolutely original idea that you get a mentor, you get your own team. and you

lead this team, and then the first two seasons - it was our game, a real battle. we didn't look at each other's numbers. we peeped saw only e. here's the day of the shoot. here sasha had to with his team. i came for with my team and, uh, then i realized that , of course, unfortunately, it is impossible to make a direct absolute tournament, because anyway someone gets participants who have a little more or less talent specifically for figure skating. and this is not an equal fight , so then we began to change participants in a circle. well, in general, to run the sleeve of the story, then the bolero project was born on channel one where e, the skaters generally danced with the great ballerinas , the flight and the flame were born, where we danced one episode on the floor, the other on the ice, the project was born professional cup, where only professionals took part in the project and every episode took place. new change of partners. and this, by the way, was a great success was a team tournament, where an

international team came to the world and we, in general, fought. in general, there was a huge number of different, naturally, the dancing on ice project. children. this project is generally absolutely russian, absolutely original, and here are the guys. there were projects for two seasons. oh no dancing on ice, glacial children, dancing glacial children 80% of the guys who were in this project. they now everything is in the top, so that's it. this, of course, is on channel one. dmitry pirogov suspects his companion irina markevich of treason, she advises him to look for traitors elsewhere pirogov's deputy sergei yakovlev has been spying for the cia for years, he manages to escape from russia veronika breaks up with oleg and becomes justin's mistress nesterov goes to work headlong. he finds out that there are no vital medicines in iraq and flies to new york for the un assembly, where he meets veronica and love flares up again american intelligence services

plan to plant poisonous capsules in an iraqi laboratory to accuse baghdad of developing weapons of mass destruction agents. the cia uses veronica oleg unwittingly becomes a courier and delivers dangerous capsules to iraq. a special agent kidnaps them for half an hour, but he no longer wants to follow the orders of his superiors. an affair with russian intelligence officer irina changed his idea of ​​good. ye pirogov wants to destroy them both. the premiere of a multi-part film from monday on the first creative industry podcast on channel one in lineup, podcast, paws , you can watch all episodes of the club podcast project on the first channel website 1tv.ru. our guest is ilya averbukh, a legendary producer. uh, ice shows you're a workaholic, but i'm a fanatic. yes, i'm a fanatic

, you probably see, i came so a little bit, as we started talking, because this, of course, is really a matter of life. and of course, at this moment, when we create a dance, here are the participants in front of me. no, nothing else, then i'm already watching, but i try not to watch at all never, to be honest, broadcast. here he flew away. although i i am present in all installations of programs. i sit in the editing room and do not edit the whole episode, but i edit every dance. that is, we are looking for plans, that is, this week i have time to do more. why because then i see that if it flew away, i see that it's bad, that i could be here differently. it's generally a bug. it ’s not there at all, and nothing can be corrected further, you go sublimating with yourself for several days, but you have to work further. and you think, well, how is it on the one hand? no well, i'm globally i see errors that don't i'll admit it next time, but like this, and there are little things and these little things, just like, uh, this also applies to the internet. i don’t know , i read reviews on social networks. yes, there will be 10,000

positive ones, but two negative ones. like his time with these two people. how do you feel about criticism on social networks? it’s difficult for you , because you want to kind of answer and don’t fully understand how to answer and dig in and leave. just in response to itself. here you go with this person you cut. and if you get in, there several times, i tried to fit in, uh in writing, you still write a little sloppy and dig even more dig in trying. explain your position, that is, it is necessary then, how to immerse yourself in it, therefore, to be honest, i’m already like that at first it was in general, when, in fact, it was like pandora’s box opened, because, well, you can imagine, here it is , again we return to our show you stand. here is the show stands at the end of the hall, because we have five people in front of the skaters. this is such a little circus art. such a tricky person understands that this is something impossible and necessary, well, practically standing up, he applauds

, guys, because, well, such respected people and so on, but the hall really sincerely glows, it always here and you are also like this in this hand i drove my legs and jumped, that i sat there. well, because you were in this room, we were all there or not. in general, we were in the same story, and now, well, we must, of course, uh, accept no, if the criticism is constructive. she makes you care to think. at first you reject, you don’t understand anything, but you are ready to accept her criticism. from a professional viewer or not? of course, i’m ready, after all, there are emotions from professional viewers, yes, but i somehow, on the contrary, still focused on the emotional, after all, before that it really was to offend not offend me everyone who writes about good sent support. they go on some kind of you see, there is a core, so everything is fine. and you

seem to be running, and now, on the contrary, i began to focus on these stories, because you understand that a person needs to write some kind of, well, throw out some negative, this is his somewhere from him. wow, that'll cheer him up. but just write about the good. well, just to point out something else good. it won't do anything for you , it's like that. what a great act. just keep looking guys. well done, well done, and get energy from this too, and i’m right here, uh, broke myself and thank you. unfortunately, i worry all the time that it’s impossible for everyone, because it’s true. but it's important and i i just have such a phrase thank you for the kindness. yes, because that’s good, i want more and i just want good, even if something is not right, let’s still talk about good, even if something is not quite, as you saw it for yourself, it didn’t quite work out to the end , but we tried we did we didn't sit at home exactly on the fifth

point and uh, tried to create. well, i'm still the next growth zone. here is the 24th anniversary. the head is already there. yes, in a dream he imagines what will happen. well, yes, this, of course, is how i was driving right now. think it took half a century to name. these 50 years are half a century old, and i think then there will be a feeling that it’s not like that. and some generally lumpy elected to butcher and i will not. i don't think about it now, to be honest, although of course, as if you know, just worked from petersburg with liza tutamysh you and misha were preparing caroling, just in time for the russian challenge and skating next to me. i’m next to him alexei nikolaevich mishin yes, 82 years old, and we just celebrated march 8, and he rides on skates and i’m there with my fifty, that is

, the boy to catch up, and i say 06 like this some feeling. well, after all, he says, you know, but there was still a barrier for me, when it was 79. i kept waiting, but what will happen when at eighty, but you know nothing, even i feel better somehow calmer less fuss . i'm more enjoying everything and glowing man. he is always humorous with such self-irony. eh, amazing. so, when you see such a story, then, of course, now, uh, why am i talking about coquette 50 such a figure and so on, of course, i don’t feel like it anyway, but that’s how it is, as i am. e, i’ll probably say more that here we are. i tried to run away, that when these numbers were created, even when the ice age appeared, it also became crowded for me there, because the ice age is beautiful in its miniatures and you know every number, it’s like sparkling, butterfly. we even try to repeat these numbers there in the big ice shows. they don't work like that anymore. here they work for one

for this one story, when the camera work is amazing and grows every time, when, uh, everything is in this state, when tarasova or now or anton tchaikovskaya in general, when the jury is here, when you know it, when you are already somewhere, it is already something you think. what do you like there so much? and the ice age is such butterflies that they fly these numbers, and i wanted to do something global whole. and right here i'm talking about decided to rely on theatrical history in the first place, and so the performance was born. first city lights. this is straight up a show. in which the guys absolutely reincarnated, and in other characters, where we wrote the original music, where he was behind the consciously original scenery, designed original costumes, original parkour, sveta is already quite. well, a different approach. i had generally two ice and here's more.